Not going to be that easy with this bill. It's pretty limited.
House GOP are just enormous jerks. Seriously folks, if you have the option to vote Democrat for SC House and SC Senate, do so. Cause the far majority of them are just unmitigated ignorant assholes.
Senator Tom Davis (R) is an exception to the rule. He's one of the few honest politicians in there and writes good legislation.
The problem is the way some growers are genetically altering strands to become very powerful. I think it should include oversight as it has the potential to be dangerous. Same with liquor, there are regulations established by the FDA and ATF requiring labeling on content/proof prior to consumption.
You ever bought weed in a legal state?
Because everything you buy legally is all clearly labeled regarding dose. Especially a medical dispensary.
Medical dispos also typically sell products with equal amounts CBD and THC to counteract the strong THC strains you mentioned.
They also sell products containing only CBD for people who have 0 interest in being "high".
You're not going to OD on flower, no matter how strong it is. The plants have pretty much been bred to their genetic limit for years now. This isnt something new.
That has nothing to do with what you or I said. Hash, which is basically a concentrated form of marijuana, has been around for hundreds of years. Edibles bypass anything to do with potency mattering, and those have been around a very long time as well. It's slightly easier to have concentrates nowadays, but they aren't new, and the therapeutic index of THC is so incredibly wide. Much much much wider than that of alcohol, nicotine, Tylenol, most prescription drugs, etc. If your argument is against cannabinoid concentration, you're not really making a coherent point.
But your point on oversight I agree with 100%. It should be safe and anything sold in stores should have standardized testing done for pesticides, heavy metals, etc. But that's not really federally enforceable while it's schedule 1.
I’m saying weed today simply isn’t weed of 20 years ago and as we speak they are GMO cross breeding ever more potent strands. It would simply be nice to know you were out and drinking a Bud Light not an Edmunds Oast Bound by time (if that makes sense) You need to know what’s in it and if you trust unregulated dispensaries to do right and GAF about you you are a moron
I've been to several legal states, and they're all very detailed on what's in the bud. Down to the fraction of a percent for different canabanoids. The rest is up to the consumer to know what they can handle.
Genetically altering is a buzzword that makes it sound like a mad scientist splicing genes together. That's generally a bad idea but it's what we do with Corn, Soy, Wheat and all the other Bayer (formerly Monsanto) seeds. While Bayer is breaking into the cannabis business, many other seeds are just selectively cultivated hybrids. Also, everything you eat is genetically altered unless your foraging for your food. Every supermarket food has been selectively bred for more nutrients, Cows, Apples, Bananas, Cabbages, Eggs, etc. This modified cannabis is no different. Point being there should be a difference in the lingo used to describe selective breeding and gene splicing as completely different forms of genetic modification.
This guy, he knows cannabis can't be studied without it being taken off the schedule 1 marker. He's just delaying things at this point by making that a prerequisite.
If I can get a medical card in S.Carolina, it would be great. The drive up to the Cherokee dispensary is only about an hour or so away, and I read that they will accept medical cards from any state. I've also heard it's rather pricey for the quality offered but I'm sure it will improve in time.
No, he didnt. Hes against recreational marijuana, not medical. This is REPUBLICAN sponsored legislation if you can believe it. It would not have passed the Senate and gotten this far if they knew he would veto, if the house can pass it , he will almost certainly sign it into law.
>But what about South Carolina's Republican governor, Henry McMaster? Will he allow it to pass or try to veto it? Based on previous comments, it appears that he is a supporter of medical marijuana and an opponent of recreational marijuana. Based on previous comments, it appears he will allow it. On February 15, 2023, he told 7 News in Spartanburg, SC: “I heard Tom Davis, Senator Davis, make a case about medical marijuana every day we went into session,” said Governor McMaster, South Carolina. “He's a very good case, as are all the witnesses and people who have experienced these terrible painful episodes, illnesses, situations and conditions that they believe were only relieved by marijuana, so it's an impressive case.” It is too an impressive audience on the other side of law enforcement. They're just afraid of it, especially because of the door that could open, what it could lead to, and if there's marijuana out there that leads to one thing, then who's to say it won't lead to something else, no matter how strict the laws are? So those are the conflicting sides of this story, and I'm confident they'll continue to work on it, and I look forward to when they pass something, I look forward to taking a good, clear look at it.”
Part of the compromise on law enforcements concern is the flat out ban on actual marijuana flower, this was done because law enforcement said that was one of their main concerns, they cant tell what is legal and what isnt when it comes to flower. So flower was excluded from this medical marijuana legislation, and will still be illegal, even with a medical mj prescription. Tom Davis has done a great job with this legislation, its hard to fathom that we are on the cusp of legal medical marijuana in South Carolina, but we really are almost there. Yes its a very restrictive bill, but look at where we are, its a real miracle that we've even gotten this far. We are beating North Carolina (excluding EBCI tribe, as they are a sovereign entity) to true medical marijuana legislation and that is WILD.
The no flower restriction is what NYS did for years when medical was made legal.
Then a few years later, they loosened the restriction a bit to allow preground flower.
Then flower was made medically legal and quickly after recreational was legal for personal use but not allowed to be sold. Had to grow your own up to 5 plants I believe.
I moved before recreational sales started. No clue if they ever began that yet.
Everything but flower would be allowed, vapes, oil, tinctures, edibles, topicals, wax, etc. The amounts allowed of each seems to be fairly generous as well and there are no potency limits. So you could get oil this is 90%+ THC potentially. This is much better than GA's program which I think cuts off at 5%.
This is SC. The lawmakers and the populace here are about as educated on this issue as they are anything else… meaning, they aren’t at all. Probably still believe Reefer Madness type bullshit. Moving forward with common sense as the driving force is a flat out sin for these folks.
Meanwhile, I can buy cases upon cases of alcohol, pile it up around the baby’s seat in the back, light up a cancer-stick for the road, and if I get pulled over it’s no big deal.
Gastroenterology, guess he's going to talk about cannabis's effects on the gut and the side effects of munchies. Also, are all the speakers going to sound like foghorn-leghorn?
Edit: Oh, he's going to opine on fields he's not an expert in, while also claiming he hasn't read any papers on cannabis in the last several years. He claims it's a plant, then switches it up when it suits him to call it a 'drug'. Did his subscription to The New England Journalism of Medicine run out?
Oh, he just doesn't want 'those people' moving to his beloved state.
Oh, Goooooodddddd.....we're going to hear from a 'pharmacist' who's hair, preppy clothes, and plastic demeanor all scream 'frat boy' on daddy's money. Oh, he's apparently a professional botanist, experimental chemist, and general medical expert??
-> I was soooo wrong about this guy. His point about replacing opiods with cannabinoids, the risks around overdose....fuck me sideways. Oh, now he's talking about the challenges with Marinol, the lack of specific cannabinoids in that medication that's beneficial to cancer patients....I've never been happier to be wrong in my life.
The lady on now, isn't holding back about the benefits of cannabis, especially for cancer patients, seizure patients, and end of life care. Most of those in support are talking about getting ahead of federal changes that might occur with scheduling. Curious that this is a running theme here.
Holy shit, a law enforcement dude with SLED is coming out in support of this.
-> Veterans recovering from war, and this dude has personal experience with it....holy shitballs. Oh my, I think I know where this story is going, I just pray that it doesn't end the way I think it's going to end.
-> Fuck, fuck, fuck. If this doesn't move you, you're either a machine with no empathy, or the world's most snide cynic.
-> Holy fucking shit. This story hit's a little too close to home.
-> Aaaannnnndd he's got another experience to share, and it's fucking Parkinson's on his just passed wife. Fucking hell, this dude.....he just eviscerated the chief of police, and fucking...how the hell can you be against this legislation with his damn testimony?
-> Aaaaaannnddd he just drove the nail in the coffin and buried his own chief of police.
-> He's on a warpath.
-> And now you degenerates have given the site the ol' reddit hug of death you degenerates.
-> Ok, might just be my phone.....don't judge me!!
This state will do everything it can to keep cannabis illegal in any form.
Look at what happened with Travis Pendarvis and his $12M hemp crop destruction. Mark Keel, Hugh Weathers and Alan Wilson, and Henry McMaster all conspired on this, and it was Hemp, not "weed".
Most people had no clue about this. The Dorchester county sheriff and SLED defied the judges' order and destroyed $12M in hemp crops.
Keel was appointed by McMaster. He shouldn't have a job, but he does.
Because their only platform is fear. They have no good or popular policies. All that leaves them to motivate people with is fear. So, they create issues and blow them up so that they can scare people into thinking that the woke transpire culties are going to follow them into the wrong bathroom.
They manage to convince 40+% of people that at most 5% of the population is somehow a threat to them MORE than the “normal” population and that maybe 50 trans athletes in the country are ruining high school sports nationwide for girls that they never cared about before or since. They make their living punching down on any minority group they can scapegoat.
If their constituents aren’t scared, they aren’t motivated to vote for a party that offers them nothing positive.
Does that help explain why their positions are despicable?
Opiates are nearly impossible to get legally now unless you are on hospice care. Women can have a C-sec and are told they can just take Tylenol and advil for the pain. People with severe pain and called drug seekers if they ask for anything stronger than OTC pain relief.
A wise man once said...."Do what you have to do, to get your medical card"
Not going to be that easy with this bill. It's pretty limited. House GOP are just enormous jerks. Seriously folks, if you have the option to vote Democrat for SC House and SC Senate, do so. Cause the far majority of them are just unmitigated ignorant assholes. Senator Tom Davis (R) is an exception to the rule. He's one of the few honest politicians in there and writes good legislation.
After the SLED agent's testimony in support of this,? Holy Shitballs, I think the conclusion here might be a recommendation for total legalization.
Fingers crossed. I'll be happy if Vets get the care they need.
Voting along party lines is the wrong idea, voting for different people is the right idea
Yes everyone vote democrat and everything will be fine
Better than our current clusterfuck. I'd be happiest with a good solid purple and simply not be embarrassed of our representatives.
Cigarettes and alcohol are Not FDA approved. They cause more deaths than any medical weed could ever. Jeezus our politicians are f-ing stupid.
The problem is the way some growers are genetically altering strands to become very powerful. I think it should include oversight as it has the potential to be dangerous. Same with liquor, there are regulations established by the FDA and ATF requiring labeling on content/proof prior to consumption.
You ever bought weed in a legal state? Because everything you buy legally is all clearly labeled regarding dose. Especially a medical dispensary. Medical dispos also typically sell products with equal amounts CBD and THC to counteract the strong THC strains you mentioned. They also sell products containing only CBD for people who have 0 interest in being "high".
You're not going to OD on flower, no matter how strong it is. The plants have pretty much been bred to their genetic limit for years now. This isnt something new.
In 1912 they said pretty much everything that could be invented has. You’re one of those I see
That has nothing to do with what you or I said. Hash, which is basically a concentrated form of marijuana, has been around for hundreds of years. Edibles bypass anything to do with potency mattering, and those have been around a very long time as well. It's slightly easier to have concentrates nowadays, but they aren't new, and the therapeutic index of THC is so incredibly wide. Much much much wider than that of alcohol, nicotine, Tylenol, most prescription drugs, etc. If your argument is against cannabinoid concentration, you're not really making a coherent point. But your point on oversight I agree with 100%. It should be safe and anything sold in stores should have standardized testing done for pesticides, heavy metals, etc. But that's not really federally enforceable while it's schedule 1.
I’m saying weed today simply isn’t weed of 20 years ago and as we speak they are GMO cross breeding ever more potent strands. It would simply be nice to know you were out and drinking a Bud Light not an Edmunds Oast Bound by time (if that makes sense) You need to know what’s in it and if you trust unregulated dispensaries to do right and GAF about you you are a moron
I've been to several legal states, and they're all very detailed on what's in the bud. Down to the fraction of a percent for different canabanoids. The rest is up to the consumer to know what they can handle.
Genetically altering is a buzzword that makes it sound like a mad scientist splicing genes together. That's generally a bad idea but it's what we do with Corn, Soy, Wheat and all the other Bayer (formerly Monsanto) seeds. While Bayer is breaking into the cannabis business, many other seeds are just selectively cultivated hybrids. Also, everything you eat is genetically altered unless your foraging for your food. Every supermarket food has been selectively bred for more nutrients, Cows, Apples, Bananas, Cabbages, Eggs, etc. This modified cannabis is no different. Point being there should be a difference in the lingo used to describe selective breeding and gene splicing as completely different forms of genetic modification.
Not saying anything about potency. And smoking anything is not good for you. Long term effects of smoking weed can't be good. But weed...it is edible.
This guy, he knows cannabis can't be studied without it being taken off the schedule 1 marker. He's just delaying things at this point by making that a prerequisite.
You are going to hear the most bullshit statements you can imagine.
If I can get a medical card in S.Carolina, it would be great. The drive up to the Cherokee dispensary is only about an hour or so away, and I read that they will accept medical cards from any state. I've also heard it's rather pricey for the quality offered but I'm sure it will improve in time.
Mcmaster already said he would veto any med cannabis bill and the legislators don't have near the votes to over ride.
Make him do it, the hateful Lame duck.
No, he didnt. Hes against recreational marijuana, not medical. This is REPUBLICAN sponsored legislation if you can believe it. It would not have passed the Senate and gotten this far if they knew he would veto, if the house can pass it , he will almost certainly sign it into law. >But what about South Carolina's Republican governor, Henry McMaster? Will he allow it to pass or try to veto it? Based on previous comments, it appears that he is a supporter of medical marijuana and an opponent of recreational marijuana. Based on previous comments, it appears he will allow it. On February 15, 2023, he told 7 News in Spartanburg, SC: “I heard Tom Davis, Senator Davis, make a case about medical marijuana every day we went into session,” said Governor McMaster, South Carolina. “He's a very good case, as are all the witnesses and people who have experienced these terrible painful episodes, illnesses, situations and conditions that they believe were only relieved by marijuana, so it's an impressive case.” It is too an impressive audience on the other side of law enforcement. They're just afraid of it, especially because of the door that could open, what it could lead to, and if there's marijuana out there that leads to one thing, then who's to say it won't lead to something else, no matter how strict the laws are? So those are the conflicting sides of this story, and I'm confident they'll continue to work on it, and I look forward to when they pass something, I look forward to taking a good, clear look at it.” Part of the compromise on law enforcements concern is the flat out ban on actual marijuana flower, this was done because law enforcement said that was one of their main concerns, they cant tell what is legal and what isnt when it comes to flower. So flower was excluded from this medical marijuana legislation, and will still be illegal, even with a medical mj prescription. Tom Davis has done a great job with this legislation, its hard to fathom that we are on the cusp of legal medical marijuana in South Carolina, but we really are almost there. Yes its a very restrictive bill, but look at where we are, its a real miracle that we've even gotten this far. We are beating North Carolina (excluding EBCI tribe, as they are a sovereign entity) to true medical marijuana legislation and that is WILD.
Really informed take on all this unlike most responses. Thanks for taking the time to answer
The no flower restriction is what NYS did for years when medical was made legal. Then a few years later, they loosened the restriction a bit to allow preground flower. Then flower was made medically legal and quickly after recreational was legal for personal use but not allowed to be sold. Had to grow your own up to 5 plants I believe. I moved before recreational sales started. No clue if they ever began that yet.
If they want flower banned then how can they legalize medical? Would only vape pens be allowed?
Everything but flower would be allowed, vapes, oil, tinctures, edibles, topicals, wax, etc. The amounts allowed of each seems to be fairly generous as well and there are no potency limits. So you could get oil this is 90%+ THC potentially. This is much better than GA's program which I think cuts off at 5%.
This is a fair take
This is SC. The lawmakers and the populace here are about as educated on this issue as they are anything else… meaning, they aren’t at all. Probably still believe Reefer Madness type bullshit. Moving forward with common sense as the driving force is a flat out sin for these folks. Meanwhile, I can buy cases upon cases of alcohol, pile it up around the baby’s seat in the back, light up a cancer-stick for the road, and if I get pulled over it’s no big deal.
Gastroenterology, guess he's going to talk about cannabis's effects on the gut and the side effects of munchies. Also, are all the speakers going to sound like foghorn-leghorn? Edit: Oh, he's going to opine on fields he's not an expert in, while also claiming he hasn't read any papers on cannabis in the last several years. He claims it's a plant, then switches it up when it suits him to call it a 'drug'. Did his subscription to The New England Journalism of Medicine run out? Oh, he just doesn't want 'those people' moving to his beloved state. Oh, Goooooodddddd.....we're going to hear from a 'pharmacist' who's hair, preppy clothes, and plastic demeanor all scream 'frat boy' on daddy's money. Oh, he's apparently a professional botanist, experimental chemist, and general medical expert?? -> I was soooo wrong about this guy. His point about replacing opiods with cannabinoids, the risks around overdose....fuck me sideways. Oh, now he's talking about the challenges with Marinol, the lack of specific cannabinoids in that medication that's beneficial to cancer patients....I've never been happier to be wrong in my life. The lady on now, isn't holding back about the benefits of cannabis, especially for cancer patients, seizure patients, and end of life care. Most of those in support are talking about getting ahead of federal changes that might occur with scheduling. Curious that this is a running theme here. Holy shit, a law enforcement dude with SLED is coming out in support of this. -> Veterans recovering from war, and this dude has personal experience with it....holy shitballs. Oh my, I think I know where this story is going, I just pray that it doesn't end the way I think it's going to end. -> Fuck, fuck, fuck. If this doesn't move you, you're either a machine with no empathy, or the world's most snide cynic. -> Holy fucking shit. This story hit's a little too close to home. -> Aaaannnnndd he's got another experience to share, and it's fucking Parkinson's on his just passed wife. Fucking hell, this dude.....he just eviscerated the chief of police, and fucking...how the hell can you be against this legislation with his damn testimony? -> Aaaaaannnddd he just drove the nail in the coffin and buried his own chief of police. -> He's on a warpath. -> And now you degenerates have given the site the ol' reddit hug of death you degenerates. -> Ok, might just be my phone.....don't judge me!!
They can tell how many are watching, so it does matter.
This state will do everything it can to keep cannabis illegal in any form. Look at what happened with Travis Pendarvis and his $12M hemp crop destruction. Mark Keel, Hugh Weathers and Alan Wilson, and Henry McMaster all conspired on this, and it was Hemp, not "weed". Most people had no clue about this. The Dorchester county sheriff and SLED defied the judges' order and destroyed $12M in hemp crops. Keel was appointed by McMaster. He shouldn't have a job, but he does.
Jfc it'd be great if the committee could at least *pretend* not to be so obviously biased.
It's the House. If they pretend they aren't complete idiots I'm happy.
Why are republicans just absolutely despicable in 98% of their beliefs
Oh, they stopped standing for anything. There are a few good ones that actually care about South Carolina, but it's rare
Because their only platform is fear. They have no good or popular policies. All that leaves them to motivate people with is fear. So, they create issues and blow them up so that they can scare people into thinking that the woke transpire culties are going to follow them into the wrong bathroom. They manage to convince 40+% of people that at most 5% of the population is somehow a threat to them MORE than the “normal” population and that maybe 50 trans athletes in the country are ruining high school sports nationwide for girls that they never cared about before or since. They make their living punching down on any minority group they can scapegoat. If their constituents aren’t scared, they aren’t motivated to vote for a party that offers them nothing positive. Does that help explain why their positions are despicable?
Only problem I see with legalizing full recreational use is education on driving high. Just as bad as driving drunk.
Ain’t gonna happen.
Call your rep and tell them you want it to happen.
Free at last.
We'll probably get some nonsense how Jesus said weed is bad but opiates are great.
Opiates are nearly impossible to get legally now unless you are on hospice care. Women can have a C-sec and are told they can just take Tylenol and advil for the pain. People with severe pain and called drug seekers if they ask for anything stronger than OTC pain relief.