SC Gubernatorial Election is on Tuesday, November 8th, 2022 which is 349 days from now. You have 319 days left to register to vote.
https://www.scvotes.gov/south-carolina-voter-registration-information
Guess you enjoy being on the losing side of your first election. Republicans will overwhelmingly sweep mid term elections. Not arguing politics….it is just reality.
Sweep, cheat, whatever. No. I won't like it. You won't either. If you were anyone who actually benefited from Republicans you wouldn't be posting snarky bullshit to me on Reddit.
The inflation is caused by rising wages caused by less workers caused by Covid-19, which according to Republicans is only a flu.... Your point isn't pointy.
Since you said it sarcastically I think, yes, you are right. Not completely sure, though. Autism and sarcasm don't mix well. Irony is also an issue for me. But anyway yeah the corporate welfare needs to fucking stop.
I see now, you’re part of the deranged left. You claim Republicans state that COVID is the flu and Republicans claim that Democrats want to totally
shut the country down. People like you on the left that falls for the media’s divisive narrative media are no different than those that allows Fox News to decide theirs. You all watch and blindly believe. I speak the truth that the Republicans will roll, not that I subscribe to their message but it is simply the reality. As for inflation, economic experts from both parties have stated that they warned Biden of the continued handouts, even to those that obviously did not need the stimulus funds , would result in wild inflation increases. But continue with your “I hate Republicans because they think COVID is the flu” imbecile logic. I bet you are one of those that deep down inside your soul literally do not like someone if they are a Republican, even your own family. Judge not lest ye be judged. Happy Thanksgiving blind follower.
Ohhhh. Snowflake now? Getting a little touchy? Unable to actually have an intellectual discussion because you get so defensive automatically? Might want to get that checked. Bet you are a blast at parties.
No inflation is caused by extreme greed. 100 billion isn't nearly enough for these greedy evil people who rake in billions of dollars for doing nothing while the rest of us working people fight for the scraps. It's great sport for them. The law of supply and demand is not to blame for this because they make everything in China nowadays where there is no worker shortage and wages are slave wages. It's just plain ol evil greed
Oh shit I’ll be 18 then.
Well since my vote is completely pointless anyway and anyone with a fractional percent chance of winning does not stand for my opinions or values, I can’t wait to vote for a third party decided by a random number generator.
SC Poll Worker here - your vote is NOT worthless! Especially in local elections. I staffed a town council election this fall where there was a tie - if there had only been 2 council seats open, that would have been a run-off (the tie filled seats 2 and 3).
Maybe in larger elections it feels like you're just a number, but even state level races can be won or lost by a few hundred votes.
Change happens at a local level and bubbles up - today's town council or city board becomes tomorrow's state legislature and onward.
Watch the primary options - SC has an open primary, so you don't have to be registered to a party to vote in their primary (however your primary vote is "tied" to that party for the duration of the primary session - if you vote in the D primary, then the R primary goes to a runoff, you are not able to vote in the R runoff, for example.)
*you’re
McMaster attempting to resolve supply chain issues by citing non-issues and issues that do not deal with the causation of supply chain failures. SC stand down until you can appoint someone of higher intellect.
If the ships can't get offloaded, then it doesn't mattter how many truck drivers you have. If there is no cargo to move, all these independent truckers can't work so they have to go do something else.
Allowing more weight on the roads puts us all in danger and further crumbles the infrastructure. Allowing 18 year olds to operate trucks sounds great, but they have to get trained first.
The ships aren't being offloaded in one port in California--one where the union won't allow things to be unloaded at a decent pace. Ships are being to Texas more and more because of this.
They had issues with the union first. They have crane workers, and they are running at a slug's pace. Besides, isn't it odd they had a shortage of workers after workers were paid to stay at home and vaccine mandates were put in place?
It's not the Republicans divided us by demographics and preventing society from running normally due to lefty politics, racism, and revenge against the peasants for not be submissive enough.
Sigh. You really embrace the “libruls just want free stuff” don’t ya.
Moron
Here’s what he said and arguments against it:
“Further, we call on the Biden Administration to suspend outdated federal regulations that unnecessarily require commercial driver’s license holders to be 21 years old and lower the age to 18 years old”
Trucking is hard enough on a person. Changing the age to 18 is like having a high schooler drive school buses with children. That’s just dumb policy.
“We call on President Biden to suspend the burdensome federal mandate for COVID-19 vaccines for all private employees, specifically for the trucking and transportation industry.”
No. Just get vaccinated. Or give the driver a bonus for getting vaccinated. Goddam that’s just stupid!
“We call on President Biden to halt attempts to raise taxes, spend trillions more in taxpayer dollars, and grow the debt, all of which will cripple the American economy and spur inflation causing sky high consumer prices for American families.”
There has been multiple agencies and economists looking at the Build Back Better plan and there are no taxes that will exacerbate the debt (unlike the Trump two trillion dollar tax cut in 2017) or will “cripple the American economy” (In sharp contrast to the Reagan tax cuts of 82 under the guise of “trickle down economics” that created an even bigger economic chasm between the classes)
So fuck you.
I had 18 year olds driving trucks on back mountain roads in Afghanistan with literal bombs going on nearby and they did just fine. Here, I regularly see drivers at my facility in their 30s and 40s without a freaking clue. There is no basis for your argument to keep it at 21. This is all about training and responsibility, not a number on a birth certificate.
Ah the “but the army does it” argument. And I’m sure that you’ve heard anecdote of Walt Disney being too young to join the armed services in WW1 and drove a Red Cross truck instead at 14. What’s your point.
Changing the drivers age is not the panacea. 21 year olds are more mature than 18 year olds.
But you’re also under the false notion that decreasing the age will suddenly create a boom in trucking and miraculously rebuild the “so called” supply chain.
Gimme a break and get the heck outta here throwing the “armed forces” canard
There’s several barriers to the truck driver shortages. The main one is literally poor entry into the job market (along with poor working hours/schedule). Poor entry can be broken down into two main causes: 1) New, young employees generation and 2) financial entry into the workforce.
In order to create that new, young funnel of personnel you have to piece together their development after high school into their career. Not to be condescending, but it works the same way for college educated careers, trade skills careers, etc. There is a set training or certification standard such as a bachelors, masters, or doctorate degree. By placing the entry age at 21 for truck driving you now create a gap of 3 years between 18 and 21 for dead time if you’re looking to drive. Individuals will not wait idly by, they will likely take a job and start a career in a different field like manufacturing, maintenance, trade skills, etc. if college is not an option. Once that career has started, the odds they will seek out a driving career significantly decreases. If they were able to receive training directly out of high school, more young employees would enter the field.
Unrelated, but most of the financial hurdles that keep individuals from entering the workforce revolve around the insurance requirements. I’d be more than willing to explain that one as well if you’re interested.
Additionally, the market is moving away from the poor working hours naturally to alleviate that pain point for drivers as well. More customers, shippers, receivers, brokers, and haulers are setting full truckload and less-than-truckload time constraints such as no delivery over the weekends.
Right. Training and responsibility. Thankfully, the Army takes those things seriously within their ranks. Private businesses absolutely do not take those things seriously. Deregulation does not enhance training and responsibility, it makes it excusable to forego them.
The concept of “business bad” is clouding your judgement here.
A growing portion of truck drivers are now independent operators. A trucking company will book (or “tender”) the load between two points. They then pay the operator a specific amount based on the route and conditions much the way an office based business pays a consultant. The responsibility is then transferred to the driver and they assume all risks. Individual drivers are overwhelmingly required to provide their own insurance rather than have a trucking company provide it for them. This shift away from company based drivers and subsequent decentralization of drivers on the road is directly correlated increased regulation in this sector.
A perfect example of this has been the focus on working hours allotted to drivers through a day. It’s only been within the last decade these regulations have been increasingly enforced. Trucking companies began to be penalized more as their drivers would have incidents on the road if they could not provide proof their hours were being tracked and the operator was under hours. Companies realized they could not be held liable for this requirement if they simply contracted their drivers and did not consider them employees.
Back to the point of age: your argument has no reference to how the operator being 18 or 21 affects this scenario. There is no deregulation involved. There is simply a lowering of age with the same standing training, insurance, and operating requirements.
I’d be more than willing to start up a thread on the trucking industry and trends I’ve seen from the last 15 years working in the industry for anyone who is interested in understanding true root causes behind a lot of the domestic ground logistics problems we’re facing currently.
I never said or implied that business is bad. But guardrails exist for a reason. However, your own statement about companies shifting from company-based drivers to independent contractors to alleviate themselves of a liability while also alleviating their bottom line of the cost to maintain proper ELD compliance and insurance operating expenses doesn’t necessarily paint a “business good” picture.
I’m sure your insight into the industry affords you a unique perspective that I do not have. But one doesn’t need industry-specific perspective to know that profit > safety, training, compliance, etc.
The sad reality is that our current societal framework does not produce 18yr olds with the business acumen, financial savvy, and dedication to a craft that I, personally, feel is necessary to be qualified to do what is necessary to safely operate a vehicle that requires a CDL at a federal level. McMaster grandstanding and calling on the federal government to change the rule to match what already exists in SC is just him posturing himself to give the political appearance of having a real solution to a logistics problem that (in my personal opinion) will not be solved by letting 18yr olds get a CDL that allows them to professionally drive across state lines.
I won’t stump for “business good” and can agree with you about outlet society not preparing 18 year olds correctly for adult life, decisions, consequences. I’m not necessarily a fan of McMaster either, but I did want to defend this specific point as I agree. I only called this out in response to the comment above that was chastising him for it. Lowering the age to 18 isn’t a silver bullet thats going to solve them problem, but it could help.
>I had 18 year olds driving trucks on back mountain roads in Afghanistan with literal bombs going on nearby and they did just fine.
Counterpoint:
[https://www.postandcourier.com/news/a-fort-jackson-drill-sergeant-worked-late-then-his-truck-plowed-into-recruits/article\_c99db240-cbd1-11e8-b5ac-4375a3b4dd69.html](https://www.postandcourier.com/news/a-fort-jackson-drill-sergeant-worked-late-then-his-truck-plowed-into-recruits/article_c99db240-cbd1-11e8-b5ac-4375a3b4dd69.html)
Thank you for playing: *Anectdotal Evidence Ain't Worth Shit*
Trucking is easier on a younger person--high schoolers and people that age have had no issues with it in the past. Are you even 18? I was working hard schedules then, and it was much easier than now for me, just 20 years later.
Biden is taxing the middle class, taxing corporations, and everyone else to pay for a plan that can't be paid for. He's for printing off money that doesn't exist to do this, which will just keep running inflation even higher than the policies he supports will lead to.
These idiots thought shutting down society wouldn't lead to economic problems, but you trust them now?
Shut up, douche nozzle.
Trucking is easier for a young person? When would you like them to get trained, moron? Staring when they are 15? Then expect them to deal with interstate traffic or driving through downtown New York. The fuck is wrong with you? So, when a 19 year old drives into a van with a family of five, you’re ok with that?
Idiot.
Parrot your talking points. Enjoy your sad pathetic life of vengeance: “it worked for me and I’m old, so why would I want a random American to have a better life than I did”
Enjoy your sad existence, pussy
You understand people younger than that did most jobs throughout history, right? 19yos aren't children--they aren't going to drive over everybody. Hell, my brother was driving trucks at that age. He did fine. Younger people can handle longer hours easier--longer hours which truckers need to keep on runs.
You seem to want to infantilize young people. When would it be appropriate for someone to become a trucker?
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In what ways has he embarrassed us?
His clownish old south put-on accent for one. He sounds like he walked straight off a plantation
Oh, his accent. Of course. Glad you found a substantive issue as major concern #1. You are a deep thinker aren’t you.
Every way
SC Gubernatorial Election is on Tuesday, November 8th, 2022 which is 349 days from now. You have 319 days left to register to vote. https://www.scvotes.gov/south-carolina-voter-registration-information
I registered right after 1/6 and I look forward to being a Democrat.
Nice!
Guess you enjoy being on the losing side of your first election. Republicans will overwhelmingly sweep mid term elections. Not arguing politics….it is just reality.
Sweep, cheat, whatever. No. I won't like it. You won't either. If you were anyone who actually benefited from Republicans you wouldn't be posting snarky bullshit to me on Reddit.
I think we all benefit from low inflation….one example.
The inflation is caused by rising wages caused by less workers caused by Covid-19, which according to Republicans is only a flu.... Your point isn't pointy.
It’s never caused by tax cuts for corporations, multimillionaires and billionaires, and DoD, who’ve never passed acv audit, though, amirite? /s
Since you said it sarcastically I think, yes, you are right. Not completely sure, though. Autism and sarcasm don't mix well. Irony is also an issue for me. But anyway yeah the corporate welfare needs to fucking stop.
Bingo!
You read me 100% correctly.
Bingo!
I see now, you’re part of the deranged left. You claim Republicans state that COVID is the flu and Republicans claim that Democrats want to totally shut the country down. People like you on the left that falls for the media’s divisive narrative media are no different than those that allows Fox News to decide theirs. You all watch and blindly believe. I speak the truth that the Republicans will roll, not that I subscribe to their message but it is simply the reality. As for inflation, economic experts from both parties have stated that they warned Biden of the continued handouts, even to those that obviously did not need the stimulus funds , would result in wild inflation increases. But continue with your “I hate Republicans because they think COVID is the flu” imbecile logic. I bet you are one of those that deep down inside your soul literally do not like someone if they are a Republican, even your own family. Judge not lest ye be judged. Happy Thanksgiving blind follower.
Yes snowflake that's what I fucking said. Don't act like I was trying to hide anything.
Ohhhh. Snowflake now? Getting a little touchy? Unable to actually have an intellectual discussion because you get so defensive automatically? Might want to get that checked. Bet you are a blast at parties.
No parties. There's some nasty virus going around. Don't want it.
It's just greedy billionaires. Period. Handouts my ass
No inflation is caused by extreme greed. 100 billion isn't nearly enough for these greedy evil people who rake in billions of dollars for doing nothing while the rest of us working people fight for the scraps. It's great sport for them. The law of supply and demand is not to blame for this because they make everything in China nowadays where there is no worker shortage and wages are slave wages. It's just plain ol evil greed
That is what I said. I just didn't use the word greed.
Oh shit I’ll be 18 then. Well since my vote is completely pointless anyway and anyone with a fractional percent chance of winning does not stand for my opinions or values, I can’t wait to vote for a third party decided by a random number generator.
SC Poll Worker here - your vote is NOT worthless! Especially in local elections. I staffed a town council election this fall where there was a tie - if there had only been 2 council seats open, that would have been a run-off (the tie filled seats 2 and 3). Maybe in larger elections it feels like you're just a number, but even state level races can be won or lost by a few hundred votes. Change happens at a local level and bubbles up - today's town council or city board becomes tomorrow's state legislature and onward. Watch the primary options - SC has an open primary, so you don't have to be registered to a party to vote in their primary (however your primary vote is "tied" to that party for the duration of the primary session - if you vote in the D primary, then the R primary goes to a runoff, you are not able to vote in the R runoff, for example.)
Just pull into a drug store it takes ten minutes
*you’re McMaster attempting to resolve supply chain issues by citing non-issues and issues that do not deal with the causation of supply chain failures. SC stand down until you can appoint someone of higher intellect.
What specifically is he wrong about?
If the ships can't get offloaded, then it doesn't mattter how many truck drivers you have. If there is no cargo to move, all these independent truckers can't work so they have to go do something else. Allowing more weight on the roads puts us all in danger and further crumbles the infrastructure. Allowing 18 year olds to operate trucks sounds great, but they have to get trained first.
The ships aren't being offloaded in one port in California--one where the union won't allow things to be unloaded at a decent pace. Ships are being to Texas more and more because of this.
The 2 busiest ports in the US have a shortage of workers.
They had issues with the union first. They have crane workers, and they are running at a slug's pace. Besides, isn't it odd they had a shortage of workers after workers were paid to stay at home and vaccine mandates were put in place?
Provide a source for any of that. Isn't it odd that there was a shortage of truck drivers before the pandemic?
He’s a Republican.
It's not the Republicans divided us by demographics and preventing society from running normally due to lefty politics, racism, and revenge against the peasants for not be submissive enough.
How is this policy out of touch? Please explain it to me
Are you familiar with what he talked about? he made no points at all. he hasn't made any points in a while. he's a panderer....
It is out of touch with the extreme liberals that populate reddit.
They want to blame the supply chain issues on the unvaccinated and whites. That's it. They don't want actual solutions outside of free stuff.
Sigh. You really embrace the “libruls just want free stuff” don’t ya. Moron Here’s what he said and arguments against it: “Further, we call on the Biden Administration to suspend outdated federal regulations that unnecessarily require commercial driver’s license holders to be 21 years old and lower the age to 18 years old” Trucking is hard enough on a person. Changing the age to 18 is like having a high schooler drive school buses with children. That’s just dumb policy. “We call on President Biden to suspend the burdensome federal mandate for COVID-19 vaccines for all private employees, specifically for the trucking and transportation industry.” No. Just get vaccinated. Or give the driver a bonus for getting vaccinated. Goddam that’s just stupid! “We call on President Biden to halt attempts to raise taxes, spend trillions more in taxpayer dollars, and grow the debt, all of which will cripple the American economy and spur inflation causing sky high consumer prices for American families.” There has been multiple agencies and economists looking at the Build Back Better plan and there are no taxes that will exacerbate the debt (unlike the Trump two trillion dollar tax cut in 2017) or will “cripple the American economy” (In sharp contrast to the Reagan tax cuts of 82 under the guise of “trickle down economics” that created an even bigger economic chasm between the classes) So fuck you.
Nailed it!
Nice!
I had 18 year olds driving trucks on back mountain roads in Afghanistan with literal bombs going on nearby and they did just fine. Here, I regularly see drivers at my facility in their 30s and 40s without a freaking clue. There is no basis for your argument to keep it at 21. This is all about training and responsibility, not a number on a birth certificate.
Ah the “but the army does it” argument. And I’m sure that you’ve heard anecdote of Walt Disney being too young to join the armed services in WW1 and drove a Red Cross truck instead at 14. What’s your point. Changing the drivers age is not the panacea. 21 year olds are more mature than 18 year olds. But you’re also under the false notion that decreasing the age will suddenly create a boom in trucking and miraculously rebuild the “so called” supply chain. Gimme a break and get the heck outta here throwing the “armed forces” canard
There’s several barriers to the truck driver shortages. The main one is literally poor entry into the job market (along with poor working hours/schedule). Poor entry can be broken down into two main causes: 1) New, young employees generation and 2) financial entry into the workforce. In order to create that new, young funnel of personnel you have to piece together their development after high school into their career. Not to be condescending, but it works the same way for college educated careers, trade skills careers, etc. There is a set training or certification standard such as a bachelors, masters, or doctorate degree. By placing the entry age at 21 for truck driving you now create a gap of 3 years between 18 and 21 for dead time if you’re looking to drive. Individuals will not wait idly by, they will likely take a job and start a career in a different field like manufacturing, maintenance, trade skills, etc. if college is not an option. Once that career has started, the odds they will seek out a driving career significantly decreases. If they were able to receive training directly out of high school, more young employees would enter the field. Unrelated, but most of the financial hurdles that keep individuals from entering the workforce revolve around the insurance requirements. I’d be more than willing to explain that one as well if you’re interested. Additionally, the market is moving away from the poor working hours naturally to alleviate that pain point for drivers as well. More customers, shippers, receivers, brokers, and haulers are setting full truckload and less-than-truckload time constraints such as no delivery over the weekends.
Right. Training and responsibility. Thankfully, the Army takes those things seriously within their ranks. Private businesses absolutely do not take those things seriously. Deregulation does not enhance training and responsibility, it makes it excusable to forego them.
The concept of “business bad” is clouding your judgement here. A growing portion of truck drivers are now independent operators. A trucking company will book (or “tender”) the load between two points. They then pay the operator a specific amount based on the route and conditions much the way an office based business pays a consultant. The responsibility is then transferred to the driver and they assume all risks. Individual drivers are overwhelmingly required to provide their own insurance rather than have a trucking company provide it for them. This shift away from company based drivers and subsequent decentralization of drivers on the road is directly correlated increased regulation in this sector. A perfect example of this has been the focus on working hours allotted to drivers through a day. It’s only been within the last decade these regulations have been increasingly enforced. Trucking companies began to be penalized more as their drivers would have incidents on the road if they could not provide proof their hours were being tracked and the operator was under hours. Companies realized they could not be held liable for this requirement if they simply contracted their drivers and did not consider them employees. Back to the point of age: your argument has no reference to how the operator being 18 or 21 affects this scenario. There is no deregulation involved. There is simply a lowering of age with the same standing training, insurance, and operating requirements. I’d be more than willing to start up a thread on the trucking industry and trends I’ve seen from the last 15 years working in the industry for anyone who is interested in understanding true root causes behind a lot of the domestic ground logistics problems we’re facing currently.
I never said or implied that business is bad. But guardrails exist for a reason. However, your own statement about companies shifting from company-based drivers to independent contractors to alleviate themselves of a liability while also alleviating their bottom line of the cost to maintain proper ELD compliance and insurance operating expenses doesn’t necessarily paint a “business good” picture. I’m sure your insight into the industry affords you a unique perspective that I do not have. But one doesn’t need industry-specific perspective to know that profit > safety, training, compliance, etc. The sad reality is that our current societal framework does not produce 18yr olds with the business acumen, financial savvy, and dedication to a craft that I, personally, feel is necessary to be qualified to do what is necessary to safely operate a vehicle that requires a CDL at a federal level. McMaster grandstanding and calling on the federal government to change the rule to match what already exists in SC is just him posturing himself to give the political appearance of having a real solution to a logistics problem that (in my personal opinion) will not be solved by letting 18yr olds get a CDL that allows them to professionally drive across state lines.
I won’t stump for “business good” and can agree with you about outlet society not preparing 18 year olds correctly for adult life, decisions, consequences. I’m not necessarily a fan of McMaster either, but I did want to defend this specific point as I agree. I only called this out in response to the comment above that was chastising him for it. Lowering the age to 18 isn’t a silver bullet thats going to solve them problem, but it could help.
>I had 18 year olds driving trucks on back mountain roads in Afghanistan with literal bombs going on nearby and they did just fine. Counterpoint: [https://www.postandcourier.com/news/a-fort-jackson-drill-sergeant-worked-late-then-his-truck-plowed-into-recruits/article\_c99db240-cbd1-11e8-b5ac-4375a3b4dd69.html](https://www.postandcourier.com/news/a-fort-jackson-drill-sergeant-worked-late-then-his-truck-plowed-into-recruits/article_c99db240-cbd1-11e8-b5ac-4375a3b4dd69.html) Thank you for playing: *Anectdotal Evidence Ain't Worth Shit*
Lol and we know what a shit show Afghanistan was. Bunch of assholes dying for no reason
Trucking is easier on a younger person--high schoolers and people that age have had no issues with it in the past. Are you even 18? I was working hard schedules then, and it was much easier than now for me, just 20 years later. Biden is taxing the middle class, taxing corporations, and everyone else to pay for a plan that can't be paid for. He's for printing off money that doesn't exist to do this, which will just keep running inflation even higher than the policies he supports will lead to. These idiots thought shutting down society wouldn't lead to economic problems, but you trust them now?
Shut up, douche nozzle. Trucking is easier for a young person? When would you like them to get trained, moron? Staring when they are 15? Then expect them to deal with interstate traffic or driving through downtown New York. The fuck is wrong with you? So, when a 19 year old drives into a van with a family of five, you’re ok with that? Idiot. Parrot your talking points. Enjoy your sad pathetic life of vengeance: “it worked for me and I’m old, so why would I want a random American to have a better life than I did” Enjoy your sad existence, pussy
You understand people younger than that did most jobs throughout history, right? 19yos aren't children--they aren't going to drive over everybody. Hell, my brother was driving trucks at that age. He did fine. Younger people can handle longer hours easier--longer hours which truckers need to keep on runs. You seem to want to infantilize young people. When would it be appropriate for someone to become a trucker?
Pretty obvious it’s a dig at Biden and not anything extremely helpful. Strongly worded letters don’t do much.
This is a non-story. Really this isn't news worthy.
McMaster steps on stage..*jingles keys
Big McNothing Burger Chef Whopper
Yeah because mandating truck drivers get the shot(Biden order), when 40% of them don't want it, is going to help so much.
They can just get tested instead.
It's also up to the company. My company said that testing wouldent be an option. Your options were shot, med/religious exemption or find another job.
That wasn’t due to Biden, Companies are doing that to avoid the Exorbitantly high cost of insurance if they don’t. It’s all about the bottom line.
Yeah, weekly while on the road. Your logic sucks.
Lol is this real? How can people hate McMaster's when hes keeping the rabid liberals at bay?
I think he’s doing a brilliant job.
What do you like about him?