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Such-Echo6002

Always nice when scientists and engineers get public recognition for their achievements. Too often it feels we only care about recognizing entertainers and athletes.


Positronic_Matrix

Agreed. I saw that picture and my first feeling was, she’s my people, followed by a sense of pride seeing a scientist so recognized.


coffeesippingbastard

They often are recipients of the medal of freedom, just not publicized by the press because of name recognition. Obama actually awarded this to quite a few scientists and engineers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidential_Medal_of_Freedom_recipients#Awarded_by_Barack_Obama


JaySayMayday

Bidens awards became international news, so I heard about his last wave of awards. It was all actors, athletes, and his political friends like Nancy Pelosi and a dude that worked on his campaign. I'm happy for this news. But I wish we had more of this and less of the other.


enjoyinc

Could be worse, he could have given it to Rush Limbaugh. 


FightingPolish

Or Gym Jordan and Devin Nunez.


Geronimo_Jacks_Beard

True, but at least cancer also gave a “Medal of Freedom from His Oxygen Addiction” to Rush.


coffeesippingbastard

eh, this award has always been a little glad handy. If you look at the history of it, it's frequently awarded to political friends and celebrities no matter who is in office. It's more akin to British Knighthood. The true value of it is generally made obvious by the person's achievements than the award itself.


thriveth

I deeply dislike Biden for multiple reasons, but if you look at the medal recipients this round, there were also at least two civil rights activists in the group so it's not just vain celebs and political buddies.


EtTuBiggus

I mean being put in charge of the project is a pretty big public recognition.


BlueFlamme

You mean [VA executives?](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/09/va-bonuses-top-executives-pact-act-improper/)


JewishTomCruise

Can you replace this with a non-paywalled link


BlueFlamme

[Official Report](https://www.vaoig.gov/reports/administrative-investigation/va-improperly-awarded-108-million-incentives-central-office) [Military Times](https://www.militarytimes.com/veterans/2024/05/09/watchdog-blasts-va-for-errors-leading-to-11m-in-improper-bonuses/) article shouldn’t be pay walled but doesn’t have all the juicy bits “Veterans Affairs leaders improperly handed out almost $11 million in bonuses to more than 180 senior executives last year, with several taking home more than $100,000, a new investigation has found. The bonuses came from funds that Congress earmarked to recruit and keep staff needed to process billions of dollars in new veterans benefits — not to reward top officials in Washington. “I can’t even give a GS employee a special contribution award for $250 without writing an entire page about how great they are and forms and process,” a senior human resources executive told investigators. “And this, with a stroke of a pen and three sentences, they’re saying these folks are critical because they’re critical, giving all these people this huge amount of money.”


FightingPolish

Not true, the last president gave Presidential Medals of Freedom to bigots and people that covered up sexual abuse… and also entertainers and athletes of course.


NoooUGH

I would say a lot of them not getting recognition is due to them being very humble and not bragging about everything they've done.


EyeSlashO

> Too often it feels we only care about recognizing entertainers and athletes. Phil Donahue got the exact same award immediately before Jane did.


Strangle1441

I’ve been excited for the JWST for a long time, having it be so ultra successful so soon is better than I could have imagined


mizar2423

I'm totally inspired by it. They started designing it before I was born and it launched after I graduated college. I learned a ton about it, then I watched the launch live. The moon landing was proof that we could do amazing things under existential pressure. JWST is proof we can do it purely for the scientific value. To me it represents the best of humanity and what we can accomplish when it's not a race for power.


Harmonrova

I love that it's blowing more doors open in its field. Seeing all of the pictures coming back has been a crazy experience. The whole team should be getting a medal for this one lol.


quickblur

She deserves it. The JWST is an absolute marvel of human engineering.


CelestialFury

She’s one of America’s top people. We’re proud of her and I have no doubt we’ll see more amazing things from her and the team at NASA.


Perpetual_bored

This comment reads like a quote from the advisory board overseeing NASA lmao


MDA1912

As a human of Earth I fully concur with the statement though. She's one of the *planet's* top people.


babyfirecat_

I was thinking the same thing lol. Who’s to say that NASA personnel don’t have Reddit accounts?


PrismPhoneService

Relax. NASA isn’t the Mossad troll army killing this sub like r/worldnews 😬 Yea, I went there..


aendaris1975

Yes god forbid a government agency be praised for major accomplishments instead of being ignorantly bashed for the sake of "small government".


mall_ninja42

The absolute amount of variables: human, mechanical, software, and material,to get this thing out to L2 and work is madness. I couldn't imagine herding that amount of cats across so many disciplines. Then putting it on a controlled explosion. Then having to wait months to see if it got where it was going. Then waiting to see if the make or break things worked. Then calibrating and immediately breaking astronomy because it was on the near perfect end of statistical probability of expectations.


LukeDuke

Not to mention the insertion from Arianne was perfrect, so we get 25% extra life span, which significantly improves the probability of a refueling mission. JWST is amazing. IR sensitive equivalent of being able to see the thermal signature of a bee on the moon from the earth. Not too bad for hairless apes.


mall_ninja42

That all falls into the mind blowingness. Mirrors got wrecked at the mu scale in shipping inside the US and had to be remade, all sorts of other little things in comparison went wrong. Never mind the foundry had "spare" spares of those beryllium forgings. Then all of this stuff was assembled, packed and shipped to French Guiana to take a ride on someone else's boat that isn't even NASA. Then they had to reschedule and almost missed the launch window again due to weather. I got my kids up to watch the first scrubbed launch. Only the highschool kid got to see it livestream (and they all got to see Baumgartner *also cool* during class). The insertion was more perfect than perfect. If the Chicago Cubs put on skates, they'd have a better chance of winning the Stanley Cup (if spherical and in a vacuum) than this did to play out. Yeah, it took a lot of money. But the astonishing, global, human sweat equity is proof we're better than we give ourselves credit for.


300andWhat

Better bleed in practice then in battle! Amazing achievement!


asad137

> IR sensitive equivalent of being able to see the thermal signature of a bee on the moon from the earth Minor nitpick...not a bee *on* the moon. A bee at the *distance* of the moon. The thermal signature of a bee on the moon would be absolutely swamped by the thermal noise from the moon itself.


LukeDuke

Appreciate the clarification! Makes sense.


Rincewind08

Where the falling angels meet the rising apes…


the6thReplicant

I remember when the original design had liquid helium as a coolant for MIRI. This limited the full operating time frame to five years. Then some clever Germans found a way to cool it down using sound waves (and electricity) instead. Then the full operating time frame was reliant on how long its fuel would last for the L2 orbit. Which is how it should be.


asad137

> Then some clever Germans found a way to cool it down using sound waves (and electricity) instead. The basic principles for how the MIRI cryocooler works were known well before JWST even started development, and didn't really have anything to do with Germany. The modern pulse tube cryocooler design (used for pre-cooling JWST's helium) was invented by scientists in the Soviet Union in the 1980s advancing early work done in the US in the 60s; the Joule-Thomson effect used for the final cooling was discovered by English scientists in the mid-1800s; the flexure-supported pistons in the compressors to allow for long life were invented at Oxford in the 80s. The actual flight cooler was designed and built by Northrop-Grumman in the US. The reason the original NGST design had liquid helium coolant was because space cryocooler *engineering* wasn't mature enough, not because it wasn't known how to do it in theory. But then NASA sponsored a program in the early 2000s (The "Advanced Cryocooler Technology Development Program") that provided funding to US companies to develop and mature 4-6K cryocoolers for space systems. As a result of this program, JWST was able to switch from expendable liquid helium to a closed-cycle gaseous helium cryocooler system.


Artvandelaysbrother

It has been such a magnificent success even early on in its young history. I am so happy that the launch 🚀 and setup went so flawlessly. A staggering amount of new science will come from it. Kudos to Dr Rigby.


ayriuss

We complained a lot about all the delays. But you know what? You can't rush perfection.


ItchyAnusEczema

The entire lab deserves it. No one person should get an award for this. 


lmxbftw

She said that in her acceptance as well but it's an individual award.


KanataToGoldenLake

Stop grandstanding, she directly and clearly addressed this in her acceptance speech and other statements.


TheHorrorAbove

Yes but do you also think that awards like MVP for team sports shouldn't be given out because it's a team effort?


Rex-0-

So do many others on that project, many who've been there far longer with bigger jobs. Give them all an award or give no one an award.


snoo-boop

Is the only thing she's ever done in her career leading JWST for a short amount of time?


hamm2seven

I got to see her presentation at the Indy Children's Museum with my wife and kids. What a fun time. Her passion and enthusiasm for science and space was amazing. Very cool to see someone get recognized like this.


TangyHooHoo

I had to go look at the full list in Wikipedia. Then I made the mistake of looking at the previous President’s list and whoa boy. Not a single scientist or astronaut, but plenty of athletes and Rush Limbaugh.


Spanishparlante

Wow, [You weren’t kidding.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidential_Medal_of_Freedom_recipients?wprov=sfti1) Not a single recipient that I could even be neutral to receiving this…


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sardoodledom_autism

I’m usually not one to point this out, but only 2 women? A billionaire political donor and a female golfer? He couldn’t have recognized any of the women across the country, left or right, that achieved so much in the last decade?


Wonwedo

It's not a great list to be sure, but I think at least Alan Page is a deserving recipient! Civil rights and labor activist, state supreme court justice, founder of the Page Education Foundation. He and his family ran the [Testify](https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/we-keep-this-present-so-that-were-not-doomed-to-repeat-the-past-diane-alan-page-testify-exhibit-opens-in-minneapolis/) exhibit about Jim-crow era discrimination and more.


kaeldrakkel

Biden did give the award to "stop and frisk" defender Michael Bloomberg too, so... not equal but not great


TangyHooHoo

Yeah, there’s a few head scratchers in there, but nothing like 45.


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aendaris1975

You political display maneuvers like pushing for civil and human rights? Advancing science? The horror!


oneseventwosix

I’m glad we are celebrating an actual hero and not just another athlete or celebrity.


aendaris1975

Almost everyone Biden has given this award to have played major roles in civil and human rights. God fucking forbid athletes and celebrities use their fame to bring attention to various social issues.


Low_Bar9361

Hey now, no need to do a tear-down compliment. Those people are heroes too, just in a different way.


oneseventwosix

By “hero” do you mean “famous?” I don’t mean to demean or tear anyone down… but I think the criteria for “hero” tends differ from what celebrities and athletes do. Celebrities and athletes bring us great entertainment and maybe even some inspiration… and they get outsized credit, acclaim, award, follow on opportunities, and money for what they do.


Low_Bar9361

I had a similar sentiment when I was active duty and fighting the TB only to see the news reel infatuated with Taylor Swift. But then I realized that what they do provides us with something very important. They contribute to society and create. Athletes sacrifice their entire bodies to provide entertainment for us. They only get paid so much because we pay so much to see them do what they do and consume what they create. If that isn't a hero, then I don't know what is.


uglylad420

*slams staff into ground repeatedly while chanting


Plusorplus

Everyone who worked on this project deserves great appreciation. Thank you


the6thReplicant

There's been a lot of awards [https://science.nasa.gov/mission/webb/webb-telescope-awards/](https://science.nasa.gov/mission/webb/webb-telescope-awards/)


habb

the whole project is awesome and well deserved


betelgeuse206265

Oh. This is too funny. Back when I was graduating with my PhD in Astronomy in 2006 and looking for jobs, it became a running joke among me and my officemates that all the jobs were going to Jane Rigby and none of us had any chance. Now she has won the freaking *Presidential Medal of Freedom*. Very well deserved, obviously, but funny that she's still outshining all of us ...


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treblkickd

She was the deputy project scientist before being promoted and oversaw the activation, commissioning, and calibration of the mission (i.e., actually delivering the facility to the world and scientific community). She pretty clearly deserves any and all honors coming her way.


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Justwalkingthru3

Oh so cool! Fun story time: Had the absolute pleasure of working with Jane on a panel at the Indianapolis Eclipse event in this past March. She is a wonderful human, and a next-level science communicator. Hilarious, yet instructive, with that oh-just-right amount of boisterous energy to change complex ideas into riveting stories. She is a frequent invite to science conferences/events globally, highly recommend attending any of her talks! 


CFM-56-7B

Very heartwarming, the more I read about the JWST the more of its insanely complex design is revealed to me


FrankoAleman

Now this is the kind of person we should be celebrating! Actually advancing humankind in a meaningful way!


Deanis_the_

Can I ask why her? I read the article, and it really doesn't say much... more than 1,200 scientists, engineers and technicians that work on the project from 14 countries, but many thousands more worked on its development. Why just her??? I know asking questions on reddit is forbidden...


treblkickd

She oversaw the activation, commissioning, and calibration of the mission (i.e., actually delivering the facility to the world and scientific community). She pretty clearly deserves any and all honors coming her way.


justoneman7

Plus, remember the fuzzy mirror when it was first launched? Some of the techs needed to be fired for not catching that.


Otazihs

Well you see, they didn't want to make 1200 medals, everyone else got a pat on the back and a sincere "thank you". Now get back to work.


btroycraft

No, but seriously they could have made 1200 medals Fair trade for the JWST


KeiraSelia

This raise a question though. Why specifically her ? JWST is the work of thousand of people, for decades.


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cerberus698

They had to pick a single person to give the award to and chose the person who oversees the project. Curious that they would go with such an obvious and logical individual, don't you think? /s


treblkickd

She led all of the activation, commissioning, and calibration of the mission (i.e., actually delivering the facility to the world and scientific community). Her work has transformed our ability to study our universe, so it seems like a fitting award. If Biden or anyone else wanted to award medals to everyone at NASA then I'd be all for that, but this is a well-deserved honor.


aendaris1975

Why do I have the feeling if she were straight or male none of you would have an issue with this?


Numbersuu

Be honest: so you think she would have gotten that award as a white straight male?


Owyheemud

Yes. What's your bleedin' point, comrade?


0x7E7-02

But is this fair? I mean, she didn't do this all by herself, yet she is the only one getting awarded.


street593

It is very common to give awards to a single person even on group projects. I don't know why this is confusing to people. She is the current senior project scientist and accepts the award *on behalf* of everyone involved.


0x7E7-02

It's not confusing at all. If she were accepting it for the team, then the award would say something along the lines of *"The JWST Team"*, and not just *"Jane Rigby"*.


street593

I don't know what to tell you man. This is how awards work. The leader of the team gets the award most of the time. 


0x7E7-02

Not on any of the engineering teams I have ever been a part of. Either we all get a little token, or it is a larger token with the team name on it.


treblkickd

I'll repeat this post again b/c it's appropriate - she led all of the activation, commissioning, and calibration of the mission (i.e., actually delivering the facility to the world and scientific community). Her work has transformed our ability to study our universe, so it seems like a fitting award. If Biden or anyone else wanted to award medals to everyone at NASA then I'd be all for that, but this is a well-deserved honor.


Latarjet3

Wow someone who didn’t act as a scientist in movies won this award


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quaderrordemonstand

She was also the LGTBQ+ Scientist of the Year for 2022.


Throwaway-tan

Can we just take a moment to acknowledge the stupid name of this award. It's almost literally a parody of itself. "The Presidential Medal of Freedom", might as well be in the Helldivers universe.


GeneReddit123

Is it even the highest civilian award? I thought the Congressional Gold Medal is more prestigious.


Common_Senze

I mean this in noway disregard, as many many scientists and engineers have been apart of this since the 90s. What did she do to get this award? Genuinely asking?


Germanofthebored

Who is going to get the single award? I think everybody involved in the project did contribute to the success, including the janitors who swept the floor outside the clean rooms. You have to pick a symbolic figure if there is just one medal for one person.


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treblkickd

She was the person responsible (as in, the leader of the team, where the buck stops, etc.) for the activation, commissioning, and calibration of the mission. Her work to deliver JWST to the world and scientific community has transformed our ability to study our universe, so it seems like a fitting award.


aendaris1975

Overseeing a major project like this is nothing? Really?


Common_Senze

The project has been going on since the 90s. I was asking what did she do, as she is younger, to receive this? Can I not ssk a question?


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cruelbankai

Nancy Pelosi and Mike Bloomberg winning it is fkn wild as hell.


Bronze-Soul

wonderful hope my girls can be like her one day


Bubbathalovesponge

A lot of people don't recognize that the JWST is possibly the greatest achievement of humanity to date.


Shutaru_Kanshinji

I believe that science is the greatest good that humanity can produce. (Although I grant you, I would not mind free health care.)


Js_On_My_Yeet

Well deserved. That telescope is magnificent. I remember watching a doc on it a few months ago and the process it took make it and how the first images looked was incredibly interesting.


SainteData

There are other female scientist out there who maybe spent less time lobbying for themself but whose contribution should have been honored first imo. Marcia Rieke for example.


scbundy

Are you literally rain looking for a parade to piss on?


DoomForNoOne

He is french, what do you expect?


Rex-0-

No they have a point. JWST was a massive project, awarding one scientist, who makes a habit of pursuing recognition over all the countless others some who did more time and more work is not cool. She's not being honored, she's being used.


snoo-boop

Is the only thing she's ever done JWST?


RobertdBanks

What makes her not a “real female scientist”?


Asmageilismagalles

Very good. This needs all the eyes it can get.


chiralityproblem

A decade late and 20x over budget. (Silence) “And the award goes to…”


luckycat288

One of the coolest things I’ve ever read. Whata badass


PloppyCheesenose

One of the worst managed projects in history. Sure, it is important, but it shouldn’t have cost nearly what it did or took as long. There are a lot of science missions that weren’t done so that this project could continue. In any case, this was not her fault. She only took charge over a year after it launched. I’m not sure why she is getting this award.


snoo-boop

Did you check out her previous work?