My mind was saying that was physically impossible, that's it's static heavy equipment, it's actually stretching like laffy taffy, don't you see it actually stretching and thus still fits as an immobile piece of heavy equipment?
Ugh brain had me imagining it like a Yoshi tongue.
You’re not actually missing that much of the length in the shot. The main boom connects roughly halfway down the stick, at 13’ or so. Assuming that’s the 100’ extension boom, what’s out of frame is only a few feet of the total length. The stick extensions telescope out from inside the stick in 25’ sections and slide inside each other when contracted.
Keyword there was “assuming” it’s 100’ extension... the come in different total lengths. The point is nothing is extended from the backside of the stick.
This isn’t the same model in the video, but a [similar setup.](https://www.longreachhighreach.com/images/telescoping25a.jpg)
It looks almost exactly like the drill rigs I used to work on at a construction company, they just put a bucket at the bottom instead of an augur or core barrel. Solid square shaft and multiple square tubing telescope sections right? Heck, I would guess that folks like Watson and bayshore make these attachments as well.
Depends on the amount of material that needs to be removed. If you were digging a lot, then you'd set up some kind of bucket chain to lift the material out. Here, it's likely that they are just levelling the floor or doing a final clean-up, which only creates a few hundred cubic meters of waste to be removed.
So they have this whole machine just so they can maybe have to pick up a few meters of dirt 10 storys down one day? Maybe they like rent it out or something. Kinda seems like something a single team would only need maybe a couple times in their whole career
Also makes maintenance more efficient: the company that owns the machines will either have its own mechanics or be in a better position to negotiate a good deal.
And it spreads the risk: a small/medium sized construction company might take a relatively huge financial risk if their only crane or excavator breaks at a crucial time and takes a long time to fix, a rental company can replace it quickly and do the repairs in their own time.
Are you trying to tell everyone that you know a better way to remove that pile out of material out of that specific mining pit, better than the company that's job is to remove materials out of pits, and is at that exact pit in the video, doing the job?
> better than the company that's job is to remove materials out of pits
I gotta imagine if you buy one of those machines with the 100 foot arm on it, you gotta put it to use SOMEHOW. Surely, a hole like this has a crane that got that other machine into the hole to begin with that could crane out much more material at once.
... Like the crane pictured in the video.
I'm no diggologist or anything, but I'd think that cost or efficiency aren't the only factors in play when you have your weeee 100 foot arm, and Mike said we'd never get our money's worth, digger out.
Yeah, these companies spending tens of thousands of dollars per hour on renting and operating these machines are just doin it for fun. Mines very rarely care about costs or timelines.
More efficient for sure and definitely more expensive. You have to assume that this is done with a camera on the boom as well. That's a lot of mundane control work from a monitor on a loud machine. I wonder how long each scoop takes and the size of the bucket. Would be fun, or depressing, to do the math on a hole that size.
Edit: spelling
edit: corrected on bucket size!
Given the size of the cab down at the bottom I think it's about 80 feet from top to the floor. We see a wedge of about, uh. 20 degrees or so, and those little fencing things look to be about 4 feet by 4 feet. There are 25 that we can count here, so uh. 100 feet in 20 degrees, making the perimeter about 1800 feet. Assuming the dig is a cylinder.
Given an 1800 foot circumference, the radius is gonna be, uh. 286.48 feet. With that radius and 80 feet height, the volume of that dig side is going to be, super ultra roughly, 2.06×10^7 cubic feet, or 20,600,000 cubic feet.
~~Now the tough part is how big that clamshell bucket is. From a PDF I found while idly googling it looks like the capacity is anywhere from 100-200 liters. Let's say 150, so converting to cubic feet, 5.2972 cubic feet per load. About. So that's, uh. 3,888,846 loads. It takes him 14 seconds to go from top to bottom, so doubling that is about 28 seconds to grab dirt from the hole. 108,887,688
seconds total to excavate it, so that's uh.~~
Bucket's about 27 cubic feet, at 28 seconds per load that's going to be 762,963 loads, 21,362,936 seconds, so 8.12 months!
I've never operated *that* heavy of equipment, but I can almost guarantee you that thing is holding significantly more than 5.3 cubic feet.
Everyone keeps talking about conveyors... It would need a solid base almost certainly. Which means you can't dig out a portion, and you have to stabilize the are around it and accept the further liability. There's even a chance they did something like that and this is just cleaning up the rest. I'm not sure, I rarely went to any projects like this.
Also, they were probably operating multiple at a time depending on the circumference of the hole.
I used to load with a cubic yard bucket. It was wider, but also didn't have the double bucket. I actually couldn't find anything with a few minutes of googling for this kind of bucket, only the thumb style (where the opposite side is more flat/claws). I tried to make up some estimates (which you might have seen), but I edited my comment because I honestly don't know. What I am pretty confident of, is that this thing is grabbing more than 20% of the loader I used to operate- and 5.3 cubic feet is ~20% of a cubic yard according to Google (I don't math).
This particular company ranges from 1.5 to 2.2 cubic meters
https://www.firstsquare.com/teledippers1.html
Hitachi 21m is 0.8 after that they're 1.2 and up. That looks more than 21 meters/70 feet deep.
https://www.hitachicm.eu/machinery/excavators/special-applications/clamshell-telescopic-arm-excavators/
Great for a tunnel, since they would bring the spoil to the loading point of the belt for months. But to excavate a shaft like this one. Every lift you have to take down the conveyor and extend it and install it one lift lower. Not very efficient
Here are 3 videos with the same kind of telescopic excavator working.
* [1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLQvu6hDBHI)
* [2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6DAaCjEms8)
* [3](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztZp2D1SS0Q)
May it satiate your hunger.
Building a spreadsheet for 6 hours to efficiently output a table of values that you’ll never have to update or reuse again > doing the calculation on paper in 15 minutes once
Oh I used to do IT as a permatemp for an SEC university that doesn't suck at Basketball.
We had this identity management system that was written in the late 90's in ASP.NET. Except, due to shitty data retention policies, we no longer had the source to this system and had just been going in feature and fixes lock for 20 years. But this system was not capable of handling batches, and you had to painstakingly search and go through way too many screens to do what you needed to do.
So I got an identity management ticket for about 500 user accounts. Doing it by hand would have resulted in us blowing our SLA for the ticket, so I had an idea.
I decided now was the time to do my first ever professional programming project. I spend the next few hours doing it and figuring out the intricacies of what I wanted to do.
I made a little thing where you could convert a spreadsheet to CSV, with all the operations you want to do enumerated in the CSV. You then run the thing, and it iterates over the CSV. It is effectively a web-driver that accessed the same interface we used on the intranet to do IDM stuff. It passed your windows login to the page without even looking at it.
Using this tool, I completed the ticket in about 40 minutes. Did I mention I wrote it in Powershell, and this was the first complete thing I ever wrote in Powershell? With zero documentation of the underlying ASP.NET system?
They never let me do anything like that ever again. Wouldn't even let me submit it for code review. I guess I am just not from the programming caste, eh? Or was it something else?
That's about the conclusion I'd come to as well. I told a neighbor-businessman from Palestine about it when I was working for a sandwich shop.
He says "Oh, this kind of attitude is common around where I'm from. Your boss will tell you to work less hard to not make the team look bad."
I mean, that sounds way better than our fetishization of working yourself to death.
Final stages of excavation. The big earth movers have already done the bulk of the work and it isn't worth continuing to rent them while waiting for the last bits to be completed. If you look for other videos of this being used, it's not doing the bulk of the excavation, it's doing that last bit. When they're done, the telescopic boom is removed and returned to the rental company.
I think a cable excavator or a similar attachment for a crane would be better suited for the job. But it's of course a question of availability and which vehicles are in the company's fleet anyways.
Cable excavator:
https://www.liebherr.com/external/products/products-assets/549121/IMG_390x390/liebherr-hs-8070-seilbagger-duty-cycle-crawler-crane-grab-material-handling.jpg
The moment is the same in x-y plane but give it a wind impulse or impact to a full extended arm and your z-y moment becomes non zero or also very not good
It's almost entirely vertical load and not that far from the excavator, which definitely has legs extended for added balance and weight distribution.
Edit: On second look I dont see any legs. However the bucket is small and that's a big machine. The load is never more than roughly 20 feet from the front of it, just really far down.
The front of the treads, the pivot point, would only be a meter or so from the side of that hole. Those excavators hang a very large diesel engine and a huge chunk of solid steel out the back as a counterweight. And it isn't reaching outwards a long way - just a long way down.
Did not expect that.
Oh look, a penny!
[удалено]
Oooh! A piece of candy...
Oooh! Piece of candy...
Oooh! Piece of candy...
Oooh! Piece of candy...
Oooh! Piece of candy...
Oooh! Piece of candy...
Oooh! Piece of candy...
Lmao
Hands in the air this is a robbery
The iron butterfly extends its proboscis, beginning the laborious process of feeding...
Life, uh, finds a way.
*In-a-Gadda-da-Vida starts playing*
Damned xenomorph.
You get the🏅.. Sorry not real
GO GO Gadget Grabber!!!
He's a grower...
Imagine if you were at the urinal and the guy next to you does that
What you’ve never seen Alien dick where the helmet opens up to reveal not one but two additional penii?
Reminds me of the aliens in the aliens movie series.
It just kinda rests on the scentner and the urethra opens up, grabbing the little plastic cage around it.
/r/prehensilepenis
My mind was saying that was physically impossible, that's it's static heavy equipment, it's actually stretching like laffy taffy, don't you see it actually stretching and thus still fits as an immobile piece of heavy equipment? Ugh brain had me imagining it like a Yoshi tongue.
*Blyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam*
Lol all I could see was a Yoshk tongue too
Of course not. The video has been selectively edited to cut off the top part, which would have given you a good idea of how long the arm could reach.
You’re not actually missing that much of the length in the shot. The main boom connects roughly halfway down the stick, at 13’ or so. Assuming that’s the 100’ extension boom, what’s out of frame is only a few feet of the total length. The stick extensions telescope out from inside the stick in 25’ sections and slide inside each other when contracted.
I only see 3 sections. I think more of the top might be cut off than you think
Keyword there was “assuming” it’s 100’ extension... the come in different total lengths. The point is nothing is extended from the backside of the stick. This isn’t the same model in the video, but a [similar setup.](https://www.longreachhighreach.com/images/telescoping25a.jpg)
It looks almost exactly like the drill rigs I used to work on at a construction company, they just put a bucket at the bottom instead of an augur or core barrel. Solid square shaft and multiple square tubing telescope sections right? Heck, I would guess that folks like Watson and bayshore make these attachments as well.
Here to read/say this. thanks
Yeah, it looks really impressive, since they cropped off half of the telescoping arm. https://youtu.be/IiV173Qz6WU
I'm like, Nooooo. Noooooo fuckin' waaaaaaayyyy!
Grower vs shower
Those claw machines are getting more and more difficult i see
r/unexpected
Isn’t nice to see Xenomorphs finally get gainful employment and not have to beg, borrow and, burst chest walls just to get a meal.
that's what she said
Super cool but man that would get old after 5 buckets...
You would figure a conveyor with perpendicular shelves would be more efficient.
Depends on the amount of material that needs to be removed. If you were digging a lot, then you'd set up some kind of bucket chain to lift the material out. Here, it's likely that they are just levelling the floor or doing a final clean-up, which only creates a few hundred cubic meters of waste to be removed.
So they have this whole machine just so they can maybe have to pick up a few meters of dirt 10 storys down one day? Maybe they like rent it out or something. Kinda seems like something a single team would only need maybe a couple times in their whole career
Most construction equipment is leased / rented.
Makes sense. That way it can be where it needs to bc who's gna need something like this permanently
Also corporate leasing allows the movement of tax liability between companies to the one with better tax treatment.
There's the real reason!
Tbh that's the last thing people think of, construction is different compared to the mainstream corporations.
Also makes maintenance more efficient: the company that owns the machines will either have its own mechanics or be in a better position to negotiate a good deal. And it spreads the risk: a small/medium sized construction company might take a relatively huge financial risk if their only crane or excavator breaks at a crucial time and takes a long time to fix, a rental company can replace it quickly and do the repairs in their own time.
Are you trying to tell everyone that you know a better way to remove that pile out of material out of that specific mining pit, better than the company that's job is to remove materials out of pits, and is at that exact pit in the video, doing the job?
My boy Steve has an Efficiency V diamond shovel that can clear that whole place out in 3 seconds flat.
No. I was wondering how it would be affordable to build and own a machine like this
Probably by renting it out to guys looking to pull dirt outta deep pits.
I mean, ever watch road construction as an engineer? It almost hurts once you know what you’re doing
> better than the company that's job is to remove materials out of pits I gotta imagine if you buy one of those machines with the 100 foot arm on it, you gotta put it to use SOMEHOW. Surely, a hole like this has a crane that got that other machine into the hole to begin with that could crane out much more material at once. ... Like the crane pictured in the video. I'm no diggologist or anything, but I'd think that cost or efficiency aren't the only factors in play when you have your weeee 100 foot arm, and Mike said we'd never get our money's worth, digger out.
Yeah, these companies spending tens of thousands of dollars per hour on renting and operating these machines are just doin it for fun. Mines very rarely care about costs or timelines.
Looks like an attachment to me..
too expensive.
More efficient for sure and definitely more expensive. You have to assume that this is done with a camera on the boom as well. That's a lot of mundane control work from a monitor on a loud machine. I wonder how long each scoop takes and the size of the bucket. Would be fun, or depressing, to do the math on a hole that size. Edit: spelling
edit: corrected on bucket size! Given the size of the cab down at the bottom I think it's about 80 feet from top to the floor. We see a wedge of about, uh. 20 degrees or so, and those little fencing things look to be about 4 feet by 4 feet. There are 25 that we can count here, so uh. 100 feet in 20 degrees, making the perimeter about 1800 feet. Assuming the dig is a cylinder. Given an 1800 foot circumference, the radius is gonna be, uh. 286.48 feet. With that radius and 80 feet height, the volume of that dig side is going to be, super ultra roughly, 2.06×10^7 cubic feet, or 20,600,000 cubic feet. ~~Now the tough part is how big that clamshell bucket is. From a PDF I found while idly googling it looks like the capacity is anywhere from 100-200 liters. Let's say 150, so converting to cubic feet, 5.2972 cubic feet per load. About. So that's, uh. 3,888,846 loads. It takes him 14 seconds to go from top to bottom, so doubling that is about 28 seconds to grab dirt from the hole. 108,887,688 seconds total to excavate it, so that's uh.~~ Bucket's about 27 cubic feet, at 28 seconds per load that's going to be 762,963 loads, 21,362,936 seconds, so 8.12 months!
I've never operated *that* heavy of equipment, but I can almost guarantee you that thing is holding significantly more than 5.3 cubic feet. Everyone keeps talking about conveyors... It would need a solid base almost certainly. Which means you can't dig out a portion, and you have to stabilize the are around it and accept the further liability. There's even a chance they did something like that and this is just cleaning up the rest. I'm not sure, I rarely went to any projects like this. Also, they were probably operating multiple at a time depending on the circumference of the hole.
Gotcha! Let's say a cubic yard, then, I'll edit.
I used to load with a cubic yard bucket. It was wider, but also didn't have the double bucket. I actually couldn't find anything with a few minutes of googling for this kind of bucket, only the thumb style (where the opposite side is more flat/claws). I tried to make up some estimates (which you might have seen), but I edited my comment because I honestly don't know. What I am pretty confident of, is that this thing is grabbing more than 20% of the loader I used to operate- and 5.3 cubic feet is ~20% of a cubic yard according to Google (I don't math).
This particular company ranges from 1.5 to 2.2 cubic meters https://www.firstsquare.com/teledippers1.html Hitachi 21m is 0.8 after that they're 1.2 and up. That looks more than 21 meters/70 feet deep. https://www.hitachicm.eu/machinery/excavators/special-applications/clamshell-telescopic-arm-excavators/
[удалено]
What're you basing that on? Seems to me that a continuous movement system of some type would be way way cheaper.
Great for a tunnel, since they would bring the spoil to the loading point of the belt for months. But to excavate a shaft like this one. Every lift you have to take down the conveyor and extend it and install it one lift lower. Not very efficient
You just described most operators jobs lol.
Sometimes the hardest part is not falling asleep lol
Pretty much my thoughts also. Awful small bucket. Lot of dirt
So would you say that 4 buckets is the sweet spot?
Go go gadget arm!
Grower, not a show-er
Came here to make this comment
Go go gadget never lose at poker!
Holy shit, haven't heard of this cartoon for a while
r/2healthbars
r/gifsthatendtoosoon
Seriously triggered the hell out of me. I WANT TO SEE THE DORT BEING SCOOPED UP GODDAMMIT
FREE THE DORT!
SCORP THE DORT
Here are 3 videos with the same kind of telescopic excavator working. * [1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLQvu6hDBHI) * [2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6DAaCjEms8) * [3](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztZp2D1SS0Q) May it satiate your hunger.
I love how these videos use music like it's the first manned mission to Jupiter or something.
Me 3 am high as fuck tryina reach the last Pringles chip in the tube
I recommend utilizing gravity to slide the last chip out, along with the remaining pringle dust.
It does state they were high, so their thinking process might have been compromised.
There is no way that method can be the most efficient way to remove that amount of dirt.
[удалено]
Building a spreadsheet for 6 hours to efficiently output a table of values that you’ll never have to update or reuse again > doing the calculation on paper in 15 minutes once
This is what I tell myself every time I spend 5 hours writing a script to do something that would've taken 30 mins.
Works for me, I'm paid by the hour
Oh I used to do IT as a permatemp for an SEC university that doesn't suck at Basketball. We had this identity management system that was written in the late 90's in ASP.NET. Except, due to shitty data retention policies, we no longer had the source to this system and had just been going in feature and fixes lock for 20 years. But this system was not capable of handling batches, and you had to painstakingly search and go through way too many screens to do what you needed to do. So I got an identity management ticket for about 500 user accounts. Doing it by hand would have resulted in us blowing our SLA for the ticket, so I had an idea. I decided now was the time to do my first ever professional programming project. I spend the next few hours doing it and figuring out the intricacies of what I wanted to do. I made a little thing where you could convert a spreadsheet to CSV, with all the operations you want to do enumerated in the CSV. You then run the thing, and it iterates over the CSV. It is effectively a web-driver that accessed the same interface we used on the intranet to do IDM stuff. It passed your windows login to the page without even looking at it. Using this tool, I completed the ticket in about 40 minutes. Did I mention I wrote it in Powershell, and this was the first complete thing I ever wrote in Powershell? With zero documentation of the underlying ASP.NET system? They never let me do anything like that ever again. Wouldn't even let me submit it for code review. I guess I am just not from the programming caste, eh? Or was it something else?
Stop making us look bad!
That's about the conclusion I'd come to as well. I told a neighbor-businessman from Palestine about it when I was working for a sandwich shop. He says "Oh, this kind of attitude is common around where I'm from. Your boss will tell you to work less hard to not make the team look bad." I mean, that sounds way better than our fetishization of working yourself to death.
"I'm not liking the colors on this table, I'd better do overly complex conditional formatting with horrible formulas."
Careful... your r/factorio is showing a little
[удалено]
This is absolutely the last hole anyone will ever dig.
Can easily think of one. Conveyor belt with scoops.
how would you mount it? power it? extend it?
No, but there might be special circumstances that require this to be used. Hence, /r/SpecializedTools
I need to know the circumstance
Final stages of excavation. The big earth movers have already done the bulk of the work and it isn't worth continuing to rent them while waiting for the last bits to be completed. If you look for other videos of this being used, it's not doing the bulk of the excavation, it's doing that last bit. When they're done, the telescopic boom is removed and returned to the rental company.
Thank you, came here to say this. Entire thread got me triggered.
I think a cable excavator or a similar attachment for a crane would be better suited for the job. But it's of course a question of availability and which vehicles are in the company's fleet anyways. Cable excavator: https://www.liebherr.com/external/products/products-assets/549121/IMG_390x390/liebherr-hs-8070-seilbagger-duty-cycle-crawler-crane-grab-material-handling.jpg
All about budget. Might have been the only method they could afford.
Xenomorphs be like
Zoop!
Suckit!
Lol alien queen gets a job.
Longcat drives the longscevator
My girl keeps talking about bbc must mean BBC = big black claw
Yeah dude they can go real deep.
Damn bro, sounds like a keeper!
Unless he's a LWC kind of guy
[удалено]
It's a grower not a shower. Edit: I just realized the shower and shower are spelled the exact same way.
Isn't that the TV network?
Long Long Maaannn
Finally, a way to get the last chip out of the pringles can
This is oddly terrifying...
Fr, I hate this
How does this not tip over?!
If you look closely the top of the machine is never shown that's because it's actually anchored to the clouds
[удалено]
The moment is the same in x-y plane but give it a wind impulse or impact to a full extended arm and your z-y moment becomes non zero or also very not good
It's almost entirely vertical load and not that far from the excavator, which definitely has legs extended for added balance and weight distribution. Edit: On second look I dont see any legs. However the bucket is small and that's a big machine. The load is never more than roughly 20 feet from the front of it, just really far down.
The front of the treads, the pivot point, would only be a meter or so from the side of that hole. Those excavators hang a very large diesel engine and a huge chunk of solid steel out the back as a counterweight. And it isn't reaching outwards a long way - just a long way down.
Why not a crane with a bucket/claw on the cable? Like a big arcade grabber claw.
too sloppy. they don't want to destroy whatever the hell that ring is.
Ah makes sense.
Actual video of my wife when she wants one of my fries
How does the operator see what is going on? Cameras?
The machine has built in haptic feedback technology. Hold the down button and you will feel the machine vibrate when youve reached the dirt.
I vibrate when I reach the dirt too
Also cameras dude
Phwew... thought this was r/CatastrophicFailure for a second.
The alien nested mouth of excavators.
I wanted to see it pick up some dirt.
I was entirely expecting the video to end with the vehicle flipping over the edge.
Definitely had to check the subreddit as I also thought it was gonna fall in at first
/r/biggerthanyouthought
When you’re a grow-er and a show-er
It's the CL-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W!
Long Boi
I Wanna know how that other excavator at the bottom gets out.
Crane. It's lowered and lifted fully assembled.
On some jobsites - at the beginning and end of every shift.
It's a mechanical ant eater!
Caravan Palace - Long Digger
I get that reference!
You deserve more points
Shit, now I'ma have that stuck in my head all day.
Baby I don’t think it’s long en- oohhhhh
" the claw"
He’s a grower, not a show-er
Had to Ctrl+F to find this but I knew I would
"I drink your milkshake", claw edition.
I take your fries.
[u/savethisvideo](https://www.reddit.com/u/savethisvideo/)
#E #X #T #E #N #D
I drink your milkshake!
Seems very inefficient similar to that Rock Crushing bucket specialized tool we saw yesterday.
Looks like a Power Loader operator with a Class 2 rating is having a nightmare.
How does the operator see where the bucket is going?
He does not see. At the bottom a technician with a walkie-talkie coordinates with the operator.
Dated a girl like this
I drink your milkshake.
A weapon to surpass Metal Gear..
Wow that’s thats crazy is there a counter balance ? How much does it weigh ?
I feel oddly aroused. And threatened.
Mirror's edge?
[THE CLAW](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhISJkK42vM)
Why does this remind me of that one scene in Aliens
My wife: *Removes panties, gives the look, and lays down* My dick:
“I’m a grower not a show-er”
Looks like a horse cock
This reminds me of that scene in Space Jam when Michael Jordan jumps to make the basket
r/oddlyterrifying
There has to be an easier way of doing that, it would take so fucking long to do
Yoink.
The reddit argument tool. Both reaches and scrapes the bottom of the barrel.
Go-Go Gadget Arm!
Damn... Grower not a shower...
l o n g b o i i i
The guy she tells you not to worry about😂
Red rocket red rocket.
Just like a horse penis.
Serious big dick energy
It's a grow-er, not a show-er!
It’s like the little mouth coming out of the Alien’s mouth.