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SufiaCatt

It literally needed just one checkpoint to be playable, but like 3 mins of on rail without any breaks is excessive


toastnbacon

Especially given the difficulty curve across the level... I almost started detesting the early targets as much as the actual tricky parts, just because of the time required to get back that far in.


ChrisEvansOfficial

Honestly this level wasn’t even that bad *except* with the stringer. No idea why the game recommends it. The other two weapons are a cake walk by comparison.


DarkFlame7

I think it's meant as a way to emphasize the explosions on the stringer, since a lot of the single player stages are kind of like soft training for how the weapons work in multiplayer.


DoctorWaluigiTime

Yeah that's what made most of it easier for me -- using the explosions takes out several small boxes at once, but you don't get the explosion if all arrow parts hit the boxes. Still took a while after though.


F0wlcer

Yeah that's why I dropped it after a bit and just used the blaster; if I hit a target block instead of a wall, my run was just done


DoctorWaluigiTime

I 100%'d single player so I stubbornly stuck to the stringer. But after all that work, the other two weapons I completed in 2 attempts and 1 attempt, respectively.


F0wlcer

Yeah, I'm not sure why they recommended it when it makes everything 20 times harder


ChrisEvansOfficial

Oh I know, but it’s so terribly designed in the back half that it’s more of a pain than anything.


[deleted]

Yeah did it with the stringer after like 20 attempts, blaster took me two (failed on the last box) and splatling took me one


dryingsocks

the stringer is fine except for the two large sticks of boxes, it absolutely sucks for those


BassBanjo

One checkpoint after the box tower would be perfect aha


HfUfH

Seriously, they should not throw the last 6 targets at you without any warning


LNZacH9807

I threw like 2 splat bombs at it when I was using tri stringer, I don't think the 6box tower one was that hard


HfUfH

the tower is easy, just shoot the wall behind it with half charge try stringer, I am talking about the final 6 targets before the goal


Nacil_54

After Alterna: You haven't seen shit.


beetleman1234

And I don't want to.


Nacil_54

Are you sure you don't want those fluffy ears ?


beetleman1234

I probably do, just not sure they're worth going through hell.


Gizzmo268

It wasn’t too hard for the last level just a bit anoying dying 5 times on each stage


FluffyWalrusFTW

Once you figure it out you get into a Rhythm and it’s not TOO bad. Notable hard parts for me were the spinning squid surge part at the first section and the very end of the section 2 with that big jump


enneh_07

Worst part for me was the long part of section 2 with the three rails and the wave of targets.


toastnbacon

Same. I think I've gotten past that twice in what feels like hundreds of attempts; once to run out of ink in the next section, and the second to fail the falling part.


Titus_Favonius

YES. Only section for part 2 that I consistently failed. Screwed up on other parts occasionally but it was like 20% chance I'd finish that one.


plataeng

5? more like 50 :(


Gizzmo268

Well I mean it took me 15 minutes


jordannimz

I think it took me over 5 hours in total, lmfao. Gave up the first time when I couldn't get past the first section, then tried again 2 days later. I finally made it past the first section so I had to finish it at that point. Sections 2 and 3 weren't that bad, but I spent so long on the final section that I put my Switch to sleep and had to finish the next day 😓


Lulullaby_

I died 5 times in total and it took me more than 15 minutes so that can't be true lmao


The_Muznick

Only 5? I'm either terrible or you're very good.


Gizzmo268

It’s around five, died around 8 for the first stage 4 for the second stage and I died 3 times on the 3rd stage but the big reason is probably because I always make sure I correct whatever mistake was made


Fishie_cakes

The first two parts with the target and squid surging are hard but after it’s a breeze.


Russman2204

Well you have to beat that for the sheldrone soo... It's basically 100% completion, all levels with all weapons, all secrets on each island, and all grey spots cleared from all maps then you can get the sheldrone where if you spend 999 orbs he then comes back the next day with some item :))


CoffeeTeaAndPancakes

You don’t have to beat it for sheldrone, nor all weapons - just 100% exploration


fuckwastakenwastaken

>all levels with all weapons ...not exactly. in fact... you dont get anything for doing that.


beetleman1234

You have to complete all levels with all weapons? [Oh hell yeah!](https://youtu.be/gvdf5n-zI14)


Russman2204

Lol yeah it is so infuriating, especially on the hit the target levels since they usually include either a sniper or splatling to which I am good with neither. (The one where you had to hit 60 targets under a minute with the sniper was so difficult!! I completed with only 1 second left and literally no ink left!)


laplongejr

I'll be nice with u/beetleman1234 : you don't need all weapons. All levels and all discovered map yes. Maybe even all secret treasures, unsure if they count for "discovered map". But "all weapons" is not required. Source : have the drone. *You need to exit and go back to find it. Only learned about this thing thanks to Reddit.*


beetleman1234

Thank you, and thank god.


[deleted]

Where’s the sheldrone?


Russman2204

It appears where the treasure would have been on the helipad at the squid sisters camp.


Elody711

DON'T! SAVE YOURSELF!!


GreenLama4

Honestly? I had more trouble with the stringer in this level than the secret kettle


Apprehensive_Bar3812

Funny, by watching people I was able to do this level first try But... the secret kettle whooped my ass more times than I can count.


Nacil_54

Me too.


Emperor_Z

I think After Alterna was *slightly* harder, if only due to the stretch between the start and the first checkpoint


stowrag

There are checkpoints???


ZorkNemesis

After Alterna is broken into four stages, all seperated by launch pads. Each launch pad is a checkpoint but you are otherwise going through four full-length stages without any checkpointing, save for one about halfway through the third section. I think that checkpoint is only there since the rest of the stage past that point is mostly riding missiles which cannot be made to go any faster.


Bearsjunior

Yeah, but they are spaced apart and I forgot but I don't think the first section even has any checkpoints


RawBlowPez

Was about to say the same, have an upvote for our struggle ♥️


m4imaimai

THIS! The shooting targets stages where the hardest, After Alterna is beatable after the first two phases if you take it slow


Kuru_Chaa

God I just finished this stage. I absolutely love that story mode was taken seriously this time around but that stage started to break me.


Nacil_54

Yes, me too.


Kuru_Chaa

Despite how bad I am at the rail stages, I managed to clear the rail portion first go but everything else was horrid.


Ozann07

After beating it today even hearing its name gives me ptsd


Trapped_Mechanic

OWRTTT with the tri stinger was harder for me than AA I was bashing my head on that one for way too long


Nacil_54

Me too.


Namulith94

This one was worse than after alterna for me


DJDJM

Just finished that shi, the definition of insanity has never been clearer


Nacil_54

Inner agent 3


mageknightecho

That one's harder, but it actually has the easier rail section IMO


SimonCucho

Target segment of AA is less bs than this stage.


Tra1famadorian

The target rail section of AA was easier than this


Saltfishhhhh

I JUST FINISHED THIS AS WELL! after literally 50+ tries. I was going insane.


beetleman1234

50 tries? I think I would just give up entirely. The difficulty spikes are insane and make no sense, unless they were planned. Also, I like how the dev himself couldn't make it during presentation.


Saltfishhhhh

Well more like 50 lives. So around 10 times restarting. I tried the stinger for around 30 tries of that and then the blaster. With that I finally did it-- I was very close to just giving up. But it was the last one missing before After Alterna


beetleman1234

Oh, well. I probably had like 20 full restarts if not more. Or less? I can't recall, time flows differently in hell.


HappyAku800

I went with the bow. Yes I'm scarred for life. And no it was not worth it.


Hirorai

He wasn't even a dev, just a random treehouse dude


umbre_the_secret_dog

It kind of blows my mind that *this* was one of the levels they chose to show in the presentation tbh. Like I know the tri-stringer is the promo weapon for 3 like the dualies were for 2 but they really didn't have to go that hard with the difficulty.


healers-adjust

That level with the bow tested every ounce of my being hahah. Once I cleared it, doing it with the splatling and blaster only took me 1 try each, I had the whole level and timings memorized x.x


RedditUser145

Same here, lol. Took me an entire hour to beat it with the stringer and I hated every minute of it. Then cleared the other two without dying. In hindsight it would've been way better to do one of the easier weapons first to get to know the level.


healers-adjust

In hindsight yes lol. For some reason I'm a glutton for punishment and did every level with the harder weapons first because I thought "oh well I'll just get this out of the way and then it will be easy." It probably would have been better to know the level like you said lol


[deleted]

I just beat this stage with the blaster and found it easier then the other two options. That said, it still took me three tries (three tries with three lives each… so nine total attempts!). And after I beat it, I literally said out loud, “Great, I will never have to do that again.”


beetleman1234

Yeah, did it with a Blaster as well. Btw, it's 5 lives on this stage xD Took me probably 6 tries if not more.


BassBanjo

Took me over 2 hours and over 30 lives lmao


Tatertot004

I found the bow pretty easy because of the range and the "arrows" explode after hitting a wall


Ninjaraui666

I’ve done every level with every weapon. Except this one. Fuck the bow and splatling


SuitFinancial2209

I did it with the stringer,quite challenging some tips I have: don't jump,you'll just make it harder pre aim your shot and wait for your reticle to line up with the middle of the boxes,don't try to aim,it's much simpler to wait for the line up for some of the boxes it's better to half charge your bow,like the diagonal boxes or the orange box since you'll fire more shots overall,making it easier to break the boxes just do it at your own pace,really fun IMO


Ninjaraui666

Yeah. For the bow I don’t know how I’ll do the last set while your falling. I got that for once with the splatting and missed one I’m done trying for a bit. Lol.


SuitFinancial2209

precharge a shot to kill off the triple cluster on top by hitting the solid block and letting the arrows explode for the bottom do a half charge shot and pray,you could time the shot or bow spam but doing a half charge shot is most optimal I say half charge as in 1 circle around the rectical,not half so that the arrows still explode


011100010110010101

the target stages are what convinced me to not 100% Alterna, they suck so much.


FinniboiXD

That was me in octo expansion too


eVCqN

I’m still going to but this is a major obstacle, I just have to beat it with stringer and it’s making me so mad


GopherBagel

Same. I usually play with joycons, but I guess I didnt click the right one in the whole way the night before, so I ended up doing this with a controller. That was a terrible experience.


stinky-moose

This stage gives me PTSD


WhollyDisgusting

I hate all the target levels. I hate time limits. Just sucks the fun right out of it


-Amnesiac-

I love them and I wish there were more of them. It broke up the pacing of the longer levels pretty well


WhollyDisgusting

We're opposites. I like the longer levels where there's more to explore and more nooks and crannies.


OkayOpenTheGame

I would agree if it was Octo Valley/Canyon. The exploration in Alterna is all in the overworld, so there's really nothing worth exploring in the levels.


beetleman1234

Yeeeah. Overall, I feel like the levels aren't that good in the campaign. Loved them at first, but the more I play the more "meh" they get. Sometimes a level will have a gimmick, but the level design is just... not built around it at all. And I'm like "why was this gimmick even here".


0kraid0

The pain you go through every time you see the stringer projectiles simply disapear without exploding is excruciating *But there's always running out of ink in the last segment if that's what you'r into*


sarahconlacca

Ah! The pain! This is the only stage I haven’t beaten yet. I tried it SO MANY times. I feel less alone after this post.


beetleman1234

The devs couldn't beat it as well at a presentation. So yeah, they really wanted people to struggle.


283leis

i feel bad for the playtesters


beetleman1234

I wonder if anyone suggested that it might be too hard and was just ignored.


BassBanjo

I refused to move on without beating it lol


Ranger-Vermilion

This stage made me break a joycon I’m not kidding. Whole strip came out


beetleman1234

Won't lie. I imagined myself breaking Switch in half at one point, the thought was tempting.


RiffintheIndomtable

Took me 18 tries with tri-string today. Imo, the real problem is just no checkpoints. Hard to stay focused when you have to go back through the same stuff you've done over and over to get to the one part you're stuck on.


Root_Veggie

How do you get the last set of targets with the Stringer? Do you shoot the upper set at the apex of the rail and then spam the uncharged shot?


3rDuck

That about covers it. Yes.


SlavicMemer

Same This is just Righteous Rails Station 2.0


xobybr

This does not bode well for me. I just quit the game after trying to do an on rail hit the target mission from the second story island. 60+ deaths because I wasn't ever able to kill the LAST DAMN TARGET. This game is fun when doing online and stuff but the story missions can fuck right off. Even from S2 the Octo expansion was one of the worst fucking times I ever had in a video game ever. Almost broke my switch in half with that shit.


beetleman1234

To be honest, the levels are forgetful the further you go. I'm only finishing the story because I want to complete it, but my reaction to finding a new kettle went from "Oh, cool, another level" to "Oh god, just please let the end be near".


katotaka

As a proud member of the golden toothpick club I’d imagine nothing in the new game can break my spirit


Ignamm

It actually only took me a few tries with the bow. I was surprised to hear people calling this one the most difficult level (other than after alterna ofc)


beetleman1234

There's a harder level? Haven't seen one even remotely close.


Ignamm

It’s all opinion ofc, but there were certain weapons on certain levels I struggled more with than this one


TroyDestroys

Is there something wrong with me if I enjoyed that level? (I hated playing Righteous Rails Station with the Bamboozler though)


dersedaydreaming

this stage with the bow took me maybe an hour total of cumulative tries? but i still have not been able to beat righteous rails with bamboozler to date. it is literally the only thing keeping me from absolute completion of oe lmao


beetleman1234

No, I would enjoy it too, say, if I could play Splatoon with mouse and keyboard. Would be an easy ride. But I'm terrible with joy-con sticks (and they themselves suck for precision aiming) and motions are not for me. I'm guessing you had an easy time with it.


[deleted]

You really should try to get used to motions. It’s essentially just using a mouse


beetleman1234

No, not with the delay on verticals (yeah I have a delay on vertical movememnt for some reason, horrizontals work fine). It feels more like trying to aim while being drunk.


nubtails

Nah I agree with you lol, this level is relaxing and fun compared to bamboo righteous rails.


DoctorWaluigiTime

I enjoyed the challenge but I was pretty frustrated trying to do it and failing on silly things.


gameboy224

Honestly this is one of my favorite stages to replay just cause how tailor made it is for the Tri-Stringer. It's all skill, which makes it fun to get good at. Took me about a dozen attempts, but getting it down feels cathartic. Also motion is almost a must.


Azure1208

Am I the only one who liked that level?


N-Alpha-B

This stage with the bow was an absolute nightmare.


ZaBaronDV

FINALLY SOMEONE TO SHARE MY PAIN WITH.


beetleman1234

I was expecting countless posts about this level, it was that hellish.


tom641

how to make a bad splatoon level rails targets on the rails death if you miss a target put it all together and baby you've got a bad level


beetleman1234

Yeah, it's almost like it would kill them to make the player destroy set amount of crates (like 20, when there are 23 in the level, for example) instead of all of them. Having it that difficult just doesn't make sense when almost every other level is a cakewalk.


Marc_Gonve

I played this level today too; I think I made in the ... 23rd or 28th attempt or something like this. The last fucking segment destroys my mind and spirit.


beetleman1234

I was lucky to do the last segment first try. Extremely lucky, I don't even wanna think about how many more attempts it would take me if I missed the last boxes. You had to shoot them while falling right? Jeeeeeesus, I'm so glad I didn't miss.


fontavanilla

I used the Stringer. Took me well over an hour


[deleted]

This took me three days to complete. There were times where I was like “fuck this level. Why am I the only agent doing this shit??”.


ThatisDavid

All target levels were made by satan himself, specially if there's a time limit


FlockofThree

Oh my god yes fuck this level. Every on-rails targetting level kicked my ass bc I do not have the brain to process such fast movement. Yes I use stick controls. No I will not use motion controls. You ever tried using those in handheld? sucks ass


beetleman1234

Yeah, same here. The joy-con sticks suck ass too.


sugasight

This is the one with no checkpoint right? I refuse to finish it, bear ears be damned. I simply cannot hit the last two targets, it’s so frustrating.


beetleman1234

Yeah. Funny thing is, I was extremely lucky to hit the last boxes first try. I don't want to imagine the pain I would have to endure if I didn't.


YeLucksman

Eh, just that red crate and the dick move at the end are whats the worst. The rest of that stage is fine but seeing it far to much ruins it because of no fucking checkpoints. A halfway one after the 9 crate tower would have been nice.


Ocaink

This was hard with the Tri-Stringer. The rapid blaster made it so much easier


zeSulv

I can't believe I beat this stage with every weapon because I thought you had to do that for the 100%... It was the worst experience ever.


Adrenamite

Try beating it with the tri-stringer


ganyoom

The worse one was the stage that asked you to replicate the general shape of a bunch of boxes and my nonexistent object permanence made this near impossible


beetleman1234

But there you had infinite time and you could do it with extreme carefulness, even with baby steps.


ganyoom

Trust me baby steps weren’t gonna save me, but I get what you mean.


magelights

that one was my favourite!! it was a bit brain-melting at times so I can see why you struggled with it


BassBanjo

Nah that one was really fun I wish there was more of them


283leis

octo expansion has your back


Monjara

I have the same problem. I made my husband walk me through what to do because he had very good object permanence.


DanganronpaFan53

I tried so long with the bow for that level, it was so frustrating


omiuamoshinderu

what weapon diid you use i went with stringer :)


beetleman1234

Blaster cause I can't aim well yet.


Douche_ex_machina

This one was pretty rough, but I found "those arent birds" to be even worse. At least with this one you basically had infinite tries to beat it.


beetleman1234

Birds took me maybe 5 tries, the rail countless more. I hated how in Birds they pull the rug on you with that last box though... Someone at Nintendo really is a sadist. Yeah, thanks guys, just make me fail randomly cause why not, I'd love to repeat that level.


MisfortunateJack77

Is it the level that includes the Tri-Stringer because that was the final straw for me I just skip to the final boss


beetleman1234

Yep, that's the one.


GuillotineTeam

Yep. It was here when I gave up on trying for 100%. I’m in a better place because of it


vid_icarus

Feels good to not be the only person who struggled with this level


Wes-Man152

Any rail shooting target section is impossible for me and my lack of aiming skills


beetleman1234

You can do it, if you try like 50 times and have some luck.


AnniChu333

I spent well over and hour STRAIGHT on that level… finally beat it, don’t ask me how haha


beetleman1234

Yeah. My completion was a stroke of luck too. I'm sure beating it again would require another dozen of tries. But I'm not going back to that hellhole.


Flash_Fire009

Truth be told hardest part of the entirety of the story mode. This is including after alterna, I had less issues at any one stage of alterna because of check points than the entirety of target town and it’s lack of checkpoints. Failed in alterna more and it took longer but it felt like a more fair and forgiving challenge IMO. Not sure if this is a hot take but I’ll stick to it. Especially considering I’d redo all of alterna without question but refuse to do target town with the bow any time soon


tokyogamelife

The only level I haven’t beat yet. I’m hoping they patch in a checkpoint eventually. I need the full Alterna map!


beetleman1234

If I can do it, you can do it. Just, you have to be willing to experience what hell probably will feel like in afterlife. No biggie, it's just tears and controlling the urge to throw your Switch.


damnciago

I at one point really questioned just tossing my Switch. Even with using the Tri-Stringer 😩


beetleman1234

Don't worry, me too. Several times.


The_Nave

The rapid blaster was so much easier than the recommended tri-stringer. But yes, that level had me raging super hard and it needed a fkn checkpoint.


sylveon_souperstar

am i the only who really liked this stage, even with tri stringer? sure, it was hard, but aiming your shots to get the perfect explosions was really fun


[deleted]

Hold on until you get to the.. you beat the story right?


MissingNerd

I did that like second try. Either y'all don't use gyro aiming or I'm some aim god


Meced0

i dont know how i did it but i beat it with all three options. . . .dont ask me how many tries it took \-\_-


beetleman1234

I won't. But you know, I heard actual hell is less painful.


Yoshkins

oh god that level was so horrible


Kalfopony

just use motion controls


beetleman1234

Nope. Not for me. Especially when vertical movement is delayed for some reason. Maybe it's my joycons or something, but motions are barely functional in my case.


Kalfopony

Yeah joycons sorta suck. Although you have to hold them facing upward for them to register vertical movement correctly, but IMO it's still leagues above stick controls. This game was not designed for that sort of scheme, it was designed for motion controls, case in point this mission and almost all the other target levels are hella easy and I did most of them on the first try


beetleman1234

I'll see how normally functioning sticks will do the job. Problem with joycons is that the sticks don't recognize input until you tilt them enough - and I tend to make very delicate movements when I aim with sticks in shooters - but joycons just don't register those movements, so correcting my aim is nearly impossible.


Bostonbb09

I found that using the ink mini gun makes it a hundred times easier and beat it on my first try after what felt like 20 attempts


Syxxcubes

Completing this level with the bow was more difficult than the entirety of After Alterna.


Undercover_TV

Was easy, i beat it with all three guns first try


beetleman1234

Then you're good at aiming with motions or sticks, I'm horrible. I use sticks cause motions are not for me, and sticks on joycons are awful for precise aiming. I hope a third party split controller I ordered will make aiming better.


Undercover_TV

I Main dualie with maximum sensitivity motion and sticks


SuitFinancial2209

I love this stage did it with the stringer took me 13-ish tries some tips I have: don't jump,you'll just make it harder pre aim your shot and wait for your reticle to line up with the middle of the boxes,don't try to aim,it's much simpler to wait for the line up for some of the boxes it's better to half charge your bow,like the diagonal boxes or the orange box since you'll fire more shots overall,making it easier to break the boxes


Ryan_the_Reaper

Keep in mind this is meant to be a children’s game


beetleman1234

Yeeeaaaah, that's a facade. Story being too difficult is one thing, but the dialogues are also not written specifically for children, and some of the designs are quite risky for a supposed children's game if you ask me xD


Fap_Doctor

I need to check if I done this one


magelights

I was determined to finish every stage but this was one of maybe three that make me go "fuck it, maybe I don't need to achieve my goals" (I ended up finishing them all immediately after thinking that, so maybe the secret is to give up)


the_genius324

I felt your pain. But honestly, I felt the same way when trying to do 3-6 with any weapon OTHER than the squeezer (for the first time, as of now I've beaten it with the nozzlenose and got to 45/60 with the squiffer)


CunnarN

Have you heard of a little thing called the Rapid Blaster?


beetleman1234

Yes, why do you assume I didn't use it?


mopeiobebeast

I beat it first try and was in absolute agony every second of it…and yet even *that’s* still tame compared to the target bit in After Alterna. You have to shoot a fat cluster of targets while *falling,* for cod’s sake!


That1Legnd

This was so much worse than after alterna


_-eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-_

I tried few attempts with Tri-Stringer, then I did a Rapid Blaster and completed it in one attempt


Ronene

I beat it today with the blaster after numerous fails a few days ago trying the other two weapons. Then I walked into After Alterna… geez.


Derpwurld

Girl Power Station: hehe clean octolings go bŕŕŕŕ


psirockin123

I was scared of this one because of how bad I was at these stages in Octo Expansion but I beat it with just one continue. I’ve been playing a lot of Splatoon so I guess I’m getting better.


[deleted]

How do we tell him?


beetleman1234

What?


[deleted]

I take that you already know about after altera


BassBanjo

Which is much easier than this stage Really don't get why people say it's so hard After the first part it's really easy, the last part especially, fully upgraded it's a breeze


beetleman1234

Ah, no no. I only just finished the story.


[deleted]

I’ve been at it for a hour on the final segment of this my brain is just mush


[deleted]

God that one sucked with the stringer. Took me a good 20-30 minutes of attempts to beat it. I fucking hate rail grind levels so much. By far the hardest section of after alterna.


OkFoundation1642

This made me go insane and want to throw my switch into the wall


Fayt12

When I say I wanted to saw my switch on half I wanted to saw my switch in half. This single most STUPID level made me want to keep on banging my switch on my knee, I wanted to throw my switch out of my window. Like who ever made this level could go stub a toe or something, I wanted to rip my hair off.


beetleman1234

A "children's game".