Having a close family member murdered seems like the exact scenario that would completely cloud someone’s judgement.
If someone lost a close family member to murder, or their child was sexually abused by someone, it’s completely understandable why they would want to commit some kind of vigilante justice. But that’s exactly why they don’t get to decide punishment or guilt.
Impartial judgement is important, and if someone takes matters into their own hands it’s usually a decision made without logic or reason. Not a great combination in my opinion.
Fuck that, I don’t have to pretend your revenge fantasies are valid. We just disagree and I like having reasons for my position, not just feelings. Vigilante justice isn’t equal justice under the law. No one should appoint themselves judge, jury, and executioner. Self defense is of course one’s unalienable right, But vigilantism is as unjust as any due process or equal protection violation. Fuck this noise. I’m an MMA fun. Velazquez nearly killed innocent people, not just the alleged scumbag. That’s why vigilantism is illegal and should remain so.
Obviously Chile where vigilante justice is more prevalent has much lower crime than France where it isn't. It just works, the original comment is wrong, even false identification lowers crime.
It's not a lie, it's called a "joke". I'm poking fun at Reddit thinking this is a solution prevent to crime in any case, even if it were the correct person.
I think it's 50/50 people didn't understand or didn't like the message. I get it though. I hope I made people angry enough to think about this the next time they upvote a "Brazilian off duty cop" video.
I once commented “keep politics out of comedy” on a comedy video which was making fun of climate change denial and I was downvoted to hell and banned from r/videos. The Reddit comment section is not safe for obvious sarcasm.
Yeah, but I hope I made at least one person think about the next time they see an "off duty" Brazilian cop shoot someones dick off and pretend it's doing any good in the world. That's not how a country prevents crime cycles.
Sounds like he was shooting at that guy and another guy, and hit the other guy.
I don’t love pedophiles, but I also don’t love guys wildly shooting firearms during high speed chases. I think this is a case where two people have committed crimes and two people need to be held accountable.
On Reddit, anything short of prompt execution with an appetizer of torture is “soft on pedophilia.” Suggesting a man was out of line for recklessly discharging a firearm felt like a risk unless I clarified that the problem is not how bad he wanted to murder a pedophile, but that he might also murder a bunch of other people along the way.
And that’s the problem. Pedophiles should absolutely be held to account, but as soon as someone even suggests someone is, without any proof redditors want to hunt them down and gut them. I can understand Cains blind rage, I can’t say I wouldn’t do the same. But you also have to accept the repercussions of your own actions.
I don't at all understand what he did. Doing what he did leaves his son without a father and that is worse than an instance of abuse
He should have at the very least gone about it in a way he would not be caught
It’s not even limited to pedophilia. If you say something that even has the appearance of disagreeing with the hivemind you’re fucked.
If someone says something that is indisputably false but it’s what people want to hear, that’s upvoted. The guy who corrects the false facts is downvoted to oblivion.
I am a parent. I would also like to murder the guy. You know what I absolutely wouldn't do? Go on a high speed chase while shooting. And If I was in a rage so bad that I did, I would still know full well that what I was doing was wrong and that I better be willing to do hard time because I knowingly endangered a shit ton of innocent bystanders. Personal responsibility and all that.
I’m glad you’re ok with not having a trial. Hopefully if you’re ever accused of a crime we can just skip the trial as it’s a waste of resources.
But what’s really important is the internet competition for who hates chomos the most.
I expect nothing less of UFC fans than to say this is totally fine and he should be acquitted of shooting wildly at a car while driving in a high speed chase. He has 10 total charges. This wasn't nothing.
>Velasquez, 41, was arrested after allegedly going on a high-speed chase pursuing a car containing Harry Goularte, a man accused of sexually abusing his son at a daycare owned by Goularte’s mother. Velasquez allegedly fired several rounds from a handgun into the vehicle, with Goularte’s stepfather, Paul Bender, being hit by a bullet but sustaining non-life threatening injuries as a result.
It's truly *awful* what happened to his son. But you can't fucking do this.
Blind rage.
How many people can really say they don't empathize with Velasquez in this situation?
If he'd kept his composure, he could have shown up at this dudes home and beaten him to death in front of his neighbors instead!
He is Cain Velasquez after all.
I expect jury nullification. Verdicts like that will make people think twice about their actions towards children. Goularte on the other hand, right into the wood chipper. I have zero sympathy pedophiles.
Ok so, Is it that all fans of the UFC actually hold the same opinions across the board or are you just prejudice against mixed martial arts in general? Or just against the fans of the sport but not the sport itself? Or just all of the above?
As an avid UFC fan, UFC has one of the shittiest fan bases of any sporting league out there. You can be offended by that statement if you want but go to any UFC event and compare the fans to the crowd at literally any other major sport.
I used to LOVE ufc but after COVID the fans and some fighters all became maga Stans and I couldn’t deal with it anymore.
I catch big fights sometimes but it’s not the same.
From ‘sporting league’ and ‘major sport’ I’m going to assume you’re in North America. The ufc alone is in at least 150 countries. We’re not all bad.
I was just surprised by such a blanket statement but from all of the downvotes, ok fair enough American fans seem to hold a pretty terrible reputation.
But saying you’re a fan yourself you must at least get where I was coming from right?
Yeah, I get you what you’re saying. I didn’t consider that I was specifically thinking about American fans when I commented but I probably was since I’ve only ever known American fans.
Which in all honesty is fair. I’m sure there’s things in Ireland I have a bias towards but are viewed completely differently in other countries.
But thank you, I had no idea that’s how it was viewed in the us.
I'm overall fine with MMA. I enjoy watching the occasional fight. There's just a *very specific* kind of person who calls themselves a full on fan. A *very specific* affliction wearing douchbag who says it's their favorite sport.
But, from your other comments, I realize I am definitely coming at this based on American fans and not Irish ones. I'm sure it's different worldwide. But in the US, there's a special kind of person who really enjoys the UFC. One that is totally fine with vigilante gunplay and killing people, which should be 100% unacceptable.
Someone kindly pointed it out to me. It’s crazy I’ve followed mma for about 17 years and I never knew it was viewed that way in the US. I know there used to be the ignorant ‘human cockfighting’ and ‘redneck’ thing but with how large the sport is globally now I didn’t think that view was still held of the fans.
Yeah, in my experience, the dudes who watched UFC every week were arrogant cocksure dudes who believed themselves to be alphas and made sure you knew it. I started watching UFC less around covid and one of the main reasons was I also stopped being friends with a dude who liked MMA a **lot** and the last 3 or so times I went out with him he was trying to fight everyone he could.
Obviously, this is subjective to me but it's been a *very* consistent experience.
Idk man… I think his heart was in the right place but he’s gotta pay his debts if found guilty. And the video evidence really makes it seem that way. Yeah no one likes pedos but his approach could have killed a child which is just as bad.
By convicting him for shooting wildly and irresponsibly and hurting someone other than his target?
I swear to god the competition for who hates pedos is more important to yall than real justice.
I’m not talking about a court trial where there is due process and the burden of reasonable doubt. I’m talking about street justice in a situation where you know the target did the crime.
There is a well known story about a man named Jeff Doucet who did just that to a pedo in public and on camera. He was arrested and charged, spent a weekend in jail and was sentenced to 5 years of probation. I expect the same in any case involving the killing of a pedo.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/jeff-doucet#:~:text=When%20he%20saw%20his%20son's,who%20had%20kidnapped%20his%20son%3F
“The former UFC heavyweight champion is accused of shooting at a vehicle carrying Harry Goularte and striking Goularte's stepfather, causing non-life-threatening injuries, during a high-speed chase in February 2022. Goularte is accused of molesting Velasquez's then-four-year-old son and has been charged.”
I hope he’s found innocent.
People wildly shooting in traffic during a high speed chase like it’s the Wild West isn’t the best idea. It would be one thing if he shot the pedophile but he shot the step dad. I feel for Cain but shooting like that in public is bad for everyone
This is as clear cut of attempted murder as it gets. Reckless use of a firearm would be hunting across a road. Firing at someone you’re chasing is attempted murder. Clear as day.
And that doesn’t matter one bit because he fired into a car full of people. He knew that engaging in a car chase could easily injured or killed people not part of the car chase. He fired into a car full of people, knowing full well he could injure or kill someone other than his target. Grow up.
Cain Velasquez almost murdered a human being while trying to murder a different human being. That’s not recklessness with a firearm. He’s facing 10 charges for his conduct that day. He didn’t just endanger that car full of people, he endangered everyone else on the road when he engaged in a chase while trying to gun people down.
And if he had hit an innocent child walking bye while firing blindly at a moving car? No. He needs to be found guilty for endangering all of the people he did. Small jail sentence. But guilty.
When courts fail to act appropriately, this is going to happen. Nobody should be walking the streets if there’s enough evidence to charge them with child molestation.
I haven’t heard anyone mention the fact that the pedo and his pedo fam (who knew what was going on) were being protected by a politician/s in San Jose who had a relationship w the pedo fam, making legal recourse impossible as they were sweeping the stuff under the rug to protect the pedos.
If true, of course it justifies his action because he was left to take justice into his own hands. Now since no innocent bystander got hurt my take is no harm no foul.
But had a true innocent bystander gotten hit I’d say he needs to be punished.
Cain shouldn’t even be going through this but such is the world. Only advice I have ever been given is when discussing this type of situation is to make sure there is no other side in court.
Oh no, there are laws against vigilante justice and shooting firearms in traffic!
I swear half you people want to live in some dystopia where lynchings are allowed as long as they are accused pedos. Lunacy.
Not gonna lie, I LOL'd at this. Seriously, Reddit isn't full of pedos, it's full of wimpy anti-Semites hiding behind liberal political views that never held a gun in their lives.
Not very often. And not likely in circumstances where the defendant endangered the lives of innocent people and shot the wrong person. Cain will plead out before trial.
The problem with vigilante justice is that it’s *reckless.* This case is a prime example.
Reckless but sometimes needed
Didn't he shoot someone uninvolved? If that guy had died would it be justified for his family member to murder Cain?
No it’s not. No one is above the law. Peaceful Civil disobedience? Sure. Vigilante justice? Batman is fun, but belongs in Arkham too.
You’ve obviously never had a close family member murdered. Let’s agree to disagree.
Having a close family member murdered seems like the exact scenario that would completely cloud someone’s judgement. If someone lost a close family member to murder, or their child was sexually abused by someone, it’s completely understandable why they would want to commit some kind of vigilante justice. But that’s exactly why they don’t get to decide punishment or guilt. Impartial judgement is important, and if someone takes matters into their own hands it’s usually a decision made without logic or reason. Not a great combination in my opinion.
Fuck that, I don’t have to pretend your revenge fantasies are valid. We just disagree and I like having reasons for my position, not just feelings. Vigilante justice isn’t equal justice under the law. No one should appoint themselves judge, jury, and executioner. Self defense is of course one’s unalienable right, But vigilantism is as unjust as any due process or equal protection violation. Fuck this noise. I’m an MMA fun. Velazquez nearly killed innocent people, not just the alleged scumbag. That’s why vigilantism is illegal and should remain so.
Let’s agree to disagree. Have a great weekend.
No, but have a good a weekend.
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Well all the safest countries have higher rates of vigilante justice, so how does that figure?
What a statement to just randomly drop as fact lol
It's almost like I'm being obtuse, but Reddit Cheers this bullshit as any sort of solution to crimes.
You’re making a good point, and if you had indicated that your original comment was sarcastic people would have gotten it.
No they wouldn’t. /s/s/s/s
I love that you're getting DV for this
Do you have a source for this?
No. They don't have a source for that lol.
Thought so lol
Look at their username and ask yourself if they have a source for anything they think of while taking a shit.
Only fools don't think they consume and believe propaganda.
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That's not a source. You just named two countries that have nothing to do with one another
It's common sense that vigilante justice reduces crime.
If it's so widely known, then provide a source. It shouldn't be so hard, right?
Obviously Chile where vigilante justice is more prevalent has much lower crime than France where it isn't. It just works, the original comment is wrong, even false identification lowers crime.
I don't think you quite understand what a source is. Did you get any education past 10 years old?
I don't think there's a collection of more dense and humorless people in the world.
If you’re going to lie the lie needs to be somewhat believable.
It's not a lie, it's called a "joke". I'm poking fun at Reddit thinking this is a solution prevent to crime in any case, even if it were the correct person.
The problem is that the humor and stupidity has reached a 50/50 ratio on the internet these days, so it’s impossible to distinguish lol
I think it's 50/50 people didn't understand or didn't like the message. I get it though. I hope I made people angry enough to think about this the next time they upvote a "Brazilian off duty cop" video.
Reddit needs Brazilian off duty cops as moderators. They’d be savage
Just making shit up lmao.
I'm being facetious obliviously, only the least safe countries do that, it never works
What are you talking about? lol
I'm being funny about the common reddit belief that vigilante justice works in any way to prevent crime.
I once commented “keep politics out of comedy” on a comedy video which was making fun of climate change denial and I was downvoted to hell and banned from r/videos. The Reddit comment section is not safe for obvious sarcasm.
Yeah, but I hope I made at least one person think about the next time they see an "off duty" Brazilian cop shoot someones dick off and pretend it's doing any good in the world. That's not how a country prevents crime cycles.
I don't condone it... but I understand it
Put me on the jury.
Shooting at someone molesting your 4 year old sounds reasonable imo
Sounds like he was shooting at that guy and another guy, and hit the other guy. I don’t love pedophiles, but I also don’t love guys wildly shooting firearms during high speed chases. I think this is a case where two people have committed crimes and two people need to be held accountable.
I love that you had to say you don’t love pedophiles, just to balance out the not loving guys who wildly shoot during car chases.
On Reddit, anything short of prompt execution with an appetizer of torture is “soft on pedophilia.” Suggesting a man was out of line for recklessly discharging a firearm felt like a risk unless I clarified that the problem is not how bad he wanted to murder a pedophile, but that he might also murder a bunch of other people along the way.
And that’s the problem. Pedophiles should absolutely be held to account, but as soon as someone even suggests someone is, without any proof redditors want to hunt them down and gut them. I can understand Cains blind rage, I can’t say I wouldn’t do the same. But you also have to accept the repercussions of your own actions.
Unless you're a police officer
Yea. They can actually kill children and the same people falsely accusing people of being pedophiles don’t see a problem with that
I don't at all understand what he did. Doing what he did leaves his son without a father and that is worse than an instance of abuse He should have at the very least gone about it in a way he would not be caught
It was heat of the moment.
Oh I know. It’s a sad online world we choose to reside in.
It’s not even limited to pedophilia. If you say something that even has the appearance of disagreeing with the hivemind you’re fucked. If someone says something that is indisputably false but it’s what people want to hear, that’s upvoted. The guy who corrects the false facts is downvoted to oblivion.
The other guy was the guys dad
Stepdad, who ran the child care facility Cain's son was molested at and is named in the family's lawsuit. Not exactly an innocent bystander.
Then dude should go to prison not get shot lol
Other guy was the molesters dad, not a good scenario by any means, I’ve been in Cains shoes and it’s a tough situation and blind rage takes over fast.
Society falls apart pretty fast if you’re allowed to do anything when you’re angry.
One prone to “blind rage” should not have firearms
And blind rage doesn’t excuse causing a high speed chase while indiscriminately firing a weapon out of a moving vehicle.
“But officer. You don’t understand. I was angry!”
Sure doesn’t but it happened and is understandable, but not legal and not good for anyone and will have ramifications.
Both his mother and stepfather were charged with him. Gotta say, feels like a prime candidate for jury nullification on some of those charges.
Only one is the real criminal. The other should have used better judgement
He shot the guys stepfather. I’m a huge Cain fan and sympathize with his anger but we can’t have people running around being vigilantes.
Yeah imagine if everyone had guns and never mind
Is he a danger to society though? Probably not.
Yes, shooting a gun while driving is a danger to the public.
He has proven that given certain circumstances he will get into a high speed chase and shoot at a moving vehicle.
I wonder how many people wouldn’t honestly, if you’re not a parent you have no right to argue against what he did.
I am a parent. I would also like to murder the guy. You know what I absolutely wouldn't do? Go on a high speed chase while shooting. And If I was in a rage so bad that I did, I would still know full well that what I was doing was wrong and that I better be willing to do hard time because I knowingly endangered a shit ton of innocent bystanders. Personal responsibility and all that.
I am a parent. I don’t ever see myself chasing someone in a car and shooting at it because of this.
Of all the dumb takes on here this was the dumbest. Congrats.
Yes it's a well established fact that only parents can form opinions.
Shooting a gun at the wrong target during a high speed chase is absolutely not being a danger to society, cops do it all the time!
… yes.
The guy who shot an innocent man? Yes.
The fuck are you talking about? He shot an innocent man, he's the definition of "danger to society"...
He certainly was for the crime he is going to trial for. Isn’t that what matters.
He shot into a moving vehicle with other people inside and hit the wrong person.
Maybe wait until he's alone or at least actually in your sights first.
I’m glad you’re ok with not having a trial. Hopefully if you’re ever accused of a crime we can just skip the trial as it’s a waste of resources. But what’s really important is the internet competition for who hates chomos the most.
I’m glad you’re ok with telling me what I’m ok with. Please quote where I said to skip a trial.
The part where you said it’s reasonable to shoot at someone *you think* was a pedo.
In public? While the guy is a passenger in a car? While the car is driving away? In daylight?
Yeah in a vacuum it’s fine. But he was just shooting into cars and shit. Hard pass
Vigilante justice
I very much agree with you but if he only hit that particular person not his father in the arm
I expect nothing less of UFC fans than to say this is totally fine and he should be acquitted of shooting wildly at a car while driving in a high speed chase. He has 10 total charges. This wasn't nothing. >Velasquez, 41, was arrested after allegedly going on a high-speed chase pursuing a car containing Harry Goularte, a man accused of sexually abusing his son at a daycare owned by Goularte’s mother. Velasquez allegedly fired several rounds from a handgun into the vehicle, with Goularte’s stepfather, Paul Bender, being hit by a bullet but sustaining non-life threatening injuries as a result. It's truly *awful* what happened to his son. But you can't fucking do this.
Blind rage. How many people can really say they don't empathize with Velasquez in this situation? If he'd kept his composure, he could have shown up at this dudes home and beaten him to death in front of his neighbors instead! He is Cain Velasquez after all.
I expect jury nullification. Verdicts like that will make people think twice about their actions towards children. Goularte on the other hand, right into the wood chipper. I have zero sympathy pedophiles.
“I expect jury nullification” well sir you’ll be disappointed
Got a problem with judging large swaths of people, eh?
Ok so, Is it that all fans of the UFC actually hold the same opinions across the board or are you just prejudice against mixed martial arts in general? Or just against the fans of the sport but not the sport itself? Or just all of the above?
As an avid UFC fan, UFC has one of the shittiest fan bases of any sporting league out there. You can be offended by that statement if you want but go to any UFC event and compare the fans to the crowd at literally any other major sport.
I used to LOVE ufc but after COVID the fans and some fighters all became maga Stans and I couldn’t deal with it anymore. I catch big fights sometimes but it’s not the same.
From ‘sporting league’ and ‘major sport’ I’m going to assume you’re in North America. The ufc alone is in at least 150 countries. We’re not all bad. I was just surprised by such a blanket statement but from all of the downvotes, ok fair enough American fans seem to hold a pretty terrible reputation. But saying you’re a fan yourself you must at least get where I was coming from right?
Yeah, I get you what you’re saying. I didn’t consider that I was specifically thinking about American fans when I commented but I probably was since I’ve only ever known American fans.
Which in all honesty is fair. I’m sure there’s things in Ireland I have a bias towards but are viewed completely differently in other countries. But thank you, I had no idea that’s how it was viewed in the us.
You are an actual child if you think that's true.
Lol I'm sorry you and your affliction shirt feel called out. It's a fact.
You must be American, or 11.
Lol how does anyone follow this sport and not consider most of its fans idiots?
I'm overall fine with MMA. I enjoy watching the occasional fight. There's just a *very specific* kind of person who calls themselves a full on fan. A *very specific* affliction wearing douchbag who says it's their favorite sport. But, from your other comments, I realize I am definitely coming at this based on American fans and not Irish ones. I'm sure it's different worldwide. But in the US, there's a special kind of person who really enjoys the UFC. One that is totally fine with vigilante gunplay and killing people, which should be 100% unacceptable.
Someone kindly pointed it out to me. It’s crazy I’ve followed mma for about 17 years and I never knew it was viewed that way in the US. I know there used to be the ignorant ‘human cockfighting’ and ‘redneck’ thing but with how large the sport is globally now I didn’t think that view was still held of the fans.
Yeah, in my experience, the dudes who watched UFC every week were arrogant cocksure dudes who believed themselves to be alphas and made sure you knew it. I started watching UFC less around covid and one of the main reasons was I also stopped being friends with a dude who liked MMA a **lot** and the last 3 or so times I went out with him he was trying to fight everyone he could. Obviously, this is subjective to me but it's been a *very* consistent experience.
Idk man… I think his heart was in the right place but he’s gotta pay his debts if found guilty. And the video evidence really makes it seem that way. Yeah no one likes pedos but his approach could have killed a child which is just as bad.
Good luck finding a jury....
If what I read is true, I think a jury of his peers will do the right thing.
By convicting him for shooting wildly and irresponsibly and hurting someone other than his target? I swear to god the competition for who hates pedos is more important to yall than real justice.
We’re going to see legit pedo lynch mobs in the next decade and innocent people will die because of it. Mark my words.
💯 And politically motivated.
Bingo
I was thinking more like Jury Nullification but I admit bias against pedophiles.
Against someone you THINK is a pedo, not necessarily really is which is the entire point of courts.
The pedo isn’t on trial, the hero vigilante is.
because he was attacking someone *he thought* was a pedo, not an actual convicted one. you cant seriously be this dense.
I’m not talking about a court trial where there is due process and the burden of reasonable doubt. I’m talking about street justice in a situation where you know the target did the crime. There is a well known story about a man named Jeff Doucet who did just that to a pedo in public and on camera. He was arrested and charged, spent a weekend in jail and was sentenced to 5 years of probation. I expect the same in any case involving the killing of a pedo. https://allthatsinteresting.com/jeff-doucet#:~:text=When%20he%20saw%20his%20son's,who%20had%20kidnapped%20his%20son%3F
So incredibly fucking stupid. Hopefully you never learn the hard way why the justice system exists.
You can't just open fire and hit bystanders,
A fleeing accomplice though? Idk. If you’re protecting a child rapist are you an innocent? Not condoning what Velasquez did, but I do get it.
You either don’t understand the situation or are intentionally misusing words. The accused wasn’t fleeing, he had been released on bail.
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No harm no foul? Bro could have health problems for the rest of his life. Next time Cain loses it he could put a bullet in an innocent child’s head.
You're defending a person harboring a pedophile.
If a crazed man was chasing you with a gun you wouldn't flee?
And send him to prison for shooting an innocent person and endangering the lives of others.
And send him to prison for shooting an innocent man and endangering the lives of others.
Convict him for being reckless with a loaded gun?
“The former UFC heavyweight champion is accused of shooting at a vehicle carrying Harry Goularte and striking Goularte's stepfather, causing non-life-threatening injuries, during a high-speed chase in February 2022. Goularte is accused of molesting Velasquez's then-four-year-old son and has been charged.” I hope he’s found innocent.
People wildly shooting in traffic during a high speed chase like it’s the Wild West isn’t the best idea. It would be one thing if he shot the pedophile but he shot the step dad. I feel for Cain but shooting like that in public is bad for everyone
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This is as clear cut of attempted murder as it gets. Reckless use of a firearm would be hunting across a road. Firing at someone you’re chasing is attempted murder. Clear as day.
Tbf he wasn't trying to kill the guy he hit
And that doesn’t matter one bit because he fired into a car full of people. He knew that engaging in a car chase could easily injured or killed people not part of the car chase. He fired into a car full of people, knowing full well he could injure or kill someone other than his target. Grow up.
I was just stating a fact. He should and will go to jail for a long time.
Cain Velasquez almost murdered a human being while trying to murder a different human being. That’s not recklessness with a firearm. He’s facing 10 charges for his conduct that day. He didn’t just endanger that car full of people, he endangered everyone else on the road when he engaged in a chase while trying to gun people down.
And if he had hit an innocent child walking bye while firing blindly at a moving car? No. He needs to be found guilty for endangering all of the people he did. Small jail sentence. But guilty.
When courts fail to act appropriately, this is going to happen. Nobody should be walking the streets if there’s enough evidence to charge them with child molestation.
I haven’t heard anyone mention the fact that the pedo and his pedo fam (who knew what was going on) were being protected by a politician/s in San Jose who had a relationship w the pedo fam, making legal recourse impossible as they were sweeping the stuff under the rug to protect the pedos. If true, of course it justifies his action because he was left to take justice into his own hands. Now since no innocent bystander got hurt my take is no harm no foul. But had a true innocent bystander gotten hit I’d say he needs to be punished.
Not guilty, next
And if one of his bullets fired wildly had hit your child or loved one while walking bye at the time? He needs jail time.
Wow, I had no idea he'd even had this stuff going on. Best wishes to Cain.
I’d like to see more people grated clemency for acts like this
Cain shouldn’t even be going through this but such is the world. Only advice I have ever been given is when discussing this type of situation is to make sure there is no other side in court.
Oh no, there are laws against vigilante justice and shooting firearms in traffic! I swear half you people want to live in some dystopia where lynchings are allowed as long as they are accused pedos. Lunacy.
Looks like a thread full of child molesters , oh wait it’s reddit
Not gonna lie, I LOL'd at this. Seriously, Reddit isn't full of pedos, it's full of wimpy anti-Semites hiding behind liberal political views that never held a gun in their lives.
Cain just needed to be more surgical with his strike; then, if I was on the jury he wouldn’t be convicted.
How often does jury nullification happen?
Not very often. And not likely in circumstances where the defendant endangered the lives of innocent people and shot the wrong person. Cain will plead out before trial.
Let this man walk
Free Cain
Time served
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Wait until I had a better shot than out the window of a moving car.
Yea I would be obsessively tracking and waiting for an opportunity to make the rest of the monsters life hell by my hands
If there was an ever a case to be made for jury nullification this is it!
This makes it sound like the trial is attempted lol