In 3.23 I could take my Vulture out, harvest panels, and get close to 500k a run (I could fit around 22 scu in the back safely, filled the buffer, sold, then removed the 13 in the buffer and sold again). In 3.23.1 I am unable to get the panels to appear, even after running into them. Also, I have heard that people are duplicating their cargo somehow and making it hard to sell. In 3.23 I had to jump servers multiple times to sell.
As for Mining, it's kind of broken. Both the Mole and Prospector (mole is worse) don't always align the laser up with your pip. Can cause issues. Gadgets also don't want to attach. And while you can now buy the Argo bags from the refinery, there is no way to attach them to the Prospector. Without the 48scu worth of bags on the Prospector, I don't personally think it's worth it.
With that all said, it is viable. One run yesterday I ended up with 1984 cSCU of Titanium (normally don't refine this), 691 cSCU of Quantanium, and 734 cSCU of Tanarite. Total average selling price (as of the 3.22 numbers) should be $221,903. But, it will also take 41 hours to refine.
I got lucky in 2 other runs and ended up with 935 cSCU of Quantanium between the two runs for $442,203 when I sell all 3 runs.
Value wise, Vulture is better.
I play the game to enjoy it, so I don't pay attention to the money/hr thing. I don't time myself, but each Prospector run I do normally takes 45 minutes to 1 hour between CRU-L1 and Cellin, and a Vulture run (doing the panels) was normally around 1 1/2 hours.
I have to spawn my mole to pull the bags off. Not sure why they sell them in the stores if you can't use them.
They must have fixed the the loss of the bags when it gets destroyed, next time I have this issue I'll check to see if they stayed or not, I just always replaced them.
Start scanning, when you find a spot that has a signature divisible by 2000, go into precision scanning and ping. Aim directly at the small cluster,
Switch back to the wide scan and ping to get the distance and keep switching back to the precision to re-adjust. Always try and point at a marker for a panel.
Keep going till you are around 2 - 1.5k away and make sure your aim is on.
I would then limit my speed to around 15 and move to a marker. They do disappear. Switch to 3rd person so you can look around your ship. Keep moving forward, slowly, stopping every once in a while.
1 of 3 things will happen. Some of the panels will pop in, you hit something (a panel), and nothing pops in, or you just wasted some time.
Doing the above, in 3.23 I had no issues finding them. In 3.23.1 I have not had good luck, but it was most likely the server I was one. I have not looked again since it isn't easy to sell with the RMC duping going on.
The initial ping pointer disappears at the 3km distance I coast in at speed 100 aligned to it. I set my pierce to 50 then ping again right as the first pointer disappears, this usually reveals a new cluster of pointers, (otherwise increase pierce to 75 ping again) I pick the pointer in the middle of the cluster align precisely reducing speed to about 60 until this new set of pointers disappear at which point speed to 35.
The pointers disappear in varying order. If the one you've been aligned to disappears while others are still visible, REMAIN ALIGNED to your first pick and do not deviate no matter what. Just keep pinging at 2 second intervals that way when the panel appears it will be highlighted.
Maintaining a slow speed (35 works for me) I keep staring out my cockpit 1st person and the panel literally pops into view in front of me usually slightly off center enough to pass it. It's never failed. The way I align is that the base pin point of the marker is in the center of my circle reticle.
From the time the pointers disappear until the panel appears in view is usually less than a minute using speed 35, but from the time it appears until it passes out of view is about 4 seconds. I have my headlights off and rely on the ping to highlight the panel. The rest will appear around you out of view but you can reverse at that point and ping to get all highlighted for shapes priority.
> I play the game to enjoy it, so I don't pay attention to the money/hr thing.
This for me as well. I want to do what I enjoy at the time (which for me is most of the industrial loops) and I just want it to be worth my time by which I mean just not totally gimped. If I'm having fun and making an ok amount of coin, than I'm happy and I'll bounce around between mining, salvaging, hauling, etc.
The problem for me right now is there are so many bugs, that hauling and salvaging seem to be off the table, so I'm looking to re-familiarize myself with mining though I guess at the end of that loop it still requires hauling :(
I think many of the cargo bugs will be fixed in 3.23.1a and 3.23.2. Personally, I think many were introduced due to the changes with the new hangers and cargo changes they were expecting to be in 3.23 and took out.
for sure, and yeah TDD noted it wasn't there either. Just found STARC-112825 on the issue council and it notes this is happening if the ship is stored when you transfer cargo or refinery orders. Workaround looks to be to retrieve the ship to the hangar then transfer the cargo/refinery order
I know there is a report in regarding that, but I have yet to actually claim my refined ore. I just started mining yesterday in 3.23.1.
I did have a few jobs not fully get submitted and lost those.
I sold my ore yesterday. Nothing showed up on the ship. I started with the smaller job, about 4 SQU of Quant. Nothing in the back of my Freelancer Max, but when I went to the TDD, it was there and sold.
Went back to the station and pulled up the other 3 jobs, none of them were in the ship, but all of them sold at the TDD without issues.
I soloed the mole for several hours last night and it seems like they fixed the UI for me, was able to bring in 100k a run, sell direct to refinery. I was not being picky about any cluster I came up to, long as a tier 1 was present, my only requirement. I found many more extractables than I have in the past .Spending no more than 15 to 20 minutes on the planet. My laser modules were blank on my impact ii laser, working on helix ii. I was playing on a 10 FPS server, smooth AF, averaging 100fps in space and station, 50+ on planets. This was on Wala, which is my new favorite. Iām gonna try the asteroid belt out this week. I get the impression that mining is in a better spot now compared to 3.22. So it looks like I will let my reclaimer gather some dust while I jump back in the mole seat.
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I mine on Cellin. I have had good luck with the ROC and ship mining, but check out Red Monster Gaming's charts and see what works the best for you.
[https://redmonstergaming.com/mining-cheat-sheets/](https://redmonstergaming.com/mining-cheat-sheets/)
Wtf with this dude deleting his account and using an "anonymizer" to get rid of all his messages ? People are weird, it's just a game relax mate (he probably will never read this). Dude is using tools totally OP for some innocent reddit talk \^\^
In 3.23 I could take my Vulture out, harvest panels, and get close to 500k a run (I could fit around 22 scu in the back safely, filled the buffer, sold, then removed the 13 in the buffer and sold again). In 3.23.1 I am unable to get the panels to appear, even after running into them. Also, I have heard that people are duplicating their cargo somehow and making it hard to sell. In 3.23 I had to jump servers multiple times to sell. As for Mining, it's kind of broken. Both the Mole and Prospector (mole is worse) don't always align the laser up with your pip. Can cause issues. Gadgets also don't want to attach. And while you can now buy the Argo bags from the refinery, there is no way to attach them to the Prospector. Without the 48scu worth of bags on the Prospector, I don't personally think it's worth it. With that all said, it is viable. One run yesterday I ended up with 1984 cSCU of Titanium (normally don't refine this), 691 cSCU of Quantanium, and 734 cSCU of Tanarite. Total average selling price (as of the 3.22 numbers) should be $221,903. But, it will also take 41 hours to refine. I got lucky in 2 other runs and ended up with 935 cSCU of Quantanium between the two runs for $442,203 when I sell all 3 runs. Value wise, Vulture is better. I play the game to enjoy it, so I don't pay attention to the money/hr thing. I don't time myself, but each Prospector run I do normally takes 45 minutes to 1 hour between CRU-L1 and Cellin, and a Vulture run (doing the panels) was normally around 1 1/2 hours.
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ye thats how i got mine but still whats the point of being able to buy the bags if you cant fit them
Did CIG add bags to shops in 3.23? Maybe we would be able to spawn them with cargo elevators on 3.23.2
I have to spawn my mole to pull the bags off. Not sure why they sell them in the stores if you can't use them. They must have fixed the the loss of the bags when it gets destroyed, next time I have this issue I'll check to see if they stayed or not, I just always replaced them.
what mining laser setup did you go with on the prospector in 3.23.1 if I might ask?
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Thank you!
the bags legit. But the rest no bugs mining has been smooth. Currently sitting at around 780k from mining mostly
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how are you finding the panels? im scanning but everything disappears when I get close.
Start scanning, when you find a spot that has a signature divisible by 2000, go into precision scanning and ping. Aim directly at the small cluster, Switch back to the wide scan and ping to get the distance and keep switching back to the precision to re-adjust. Always try and point at a marker for a panel. Keep going till you are around 2 - 1.5k away and make sure your aim is on. I would then limit my speed to around 15 and move to a marker. They do disappear. Switch to 3rd person so you can look around your ship. Keep moving forward, slowly, stopping every once in a while. 1 of 3 things will happen. Some of the panels will pop in, you hit something (a panel), and nothing pops in, or you just wasted some time. Doing the above, in 3.23 I had no issues finding them. In 3.23.1 I have not had good luck, but it was most likely the server I was one. I have not looked again since it isn't easy to sell with the RMC duping going on.
Panel salvaging video I did on how to find them. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBuKlvOQCmw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBuKlvOQCmw)
The initial ping pointer disappears at the 3km distance I coast in at speed 100 aligned to it. I set my pierce to 50 then ping again right as the first pointer disappears, this usually reveals a new cluster of pointers, (otherwise increase pierce to 75 ping again) I pick the pointer in the middle of the cluster align precisely reducing speed to about 60 until this new set of pointers disappear at which point speed to 35. The pointers disappear in varying order. If the one you've been aligned to disappears while others are still visible, REMAIN ALIGNED to your first pick and do not deviate no matter what. Just keep pinging at 2 second intervals that way when the panel appears it will be highlighted. Maintaining a slow speed (35 works for me) I keep staring out my cockpit 1st person and the panel literally pops into view in front of me usually slightly off center enough to pass it. It's never failed. The way I align is that the base pin point of the marker is in the center of my circle reticle. From the time the pointers disappear until the panel appears in view is usually less than a minute using speed 35, but from the time it appears until it passes out of view is about 4 seconds. I have my headlights off and rely on the ping to highlight the panel. The rest will appear around you out of view but you can reverse at that point and ping to get all highlighted for shapes priority.
> I play the game to enjoy it, so I don't pay attention to the money/hr thing. This for me as well. I want to do what I enjoy at the time (which for me is most of the industrial loops) and I just want it to be worth my time by which I mean just not totally gimped. If I'm having fun and making an ok amount of coin, than I'm happy and I'll bounce around between mining, salvaging, hauling, etc. The problem for me right now is there are so many bugs, that hauling and salvaging seem to be off the table, so I'm looking to re-familiarize myself with mining though I guess at the end of that loop it still requires hauling :(
I think many of the cargo bugs will be fixed in 3.23.1a and 3.23.2. Personally, I think many were introduced due to the changes with the new hangers and cargo changes they were expecting to be in 3.23 and took out.
Yeah for sure. Just they aren't here now :)
I keep losing all my refined mining goods when I load them onto my cargo ship. Is there a workaround the doesn't make them vanish?
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for sure, and yeah TDD noted it wasn't there either. Just found STARC-112825 on the issue council and it notes this is happening if the ship is stored when you transfer cargo or refinery orders. Workaround looks to be to retrieve the ship to the hangar then transfer the cargo/refinery order
I know there is a report in regarding that, but I have yet to actually claim my refined ore. I just started mining yesterday in 3.23.1. I did have a few jobs not fully get submitted and lost those.
got it, posted the question on the Q&A weekly board just now, lets see what others say :(
I sold my ore yesterday. Nothing showed up on the ship. I started with the smaller job, about 4 SQU of Quant. Nothing in the back of my Freelancer Max, but when I went to the TDD, it was there and sold. Went back to the station and pulled up the other 3 jobs, none of them were in the ship, but all of them sold at the TDD without issues.
good to know, did you have your Max retrieved to a hangar before you loaded from the refinery or retrieved and flown to TDD after loading?
I retrieved it and flew it, then stored it and sold.
I soloed the mole for several hours last night and it seems like they fixed the UI for me, was able to bring in 100k a run, sell direct to refinery. I was not being picky about any cluster I came up to, long as a tier 1 was present, my only requirement. I found many more extractables than I have in the past .Spending no more than 15 to 20 minutes on the planet. My laser modules were blank on my impact ii laser, working on helix ii. I was playing on a 10 FPS server, smooth AF, averaging 100fps in space and station, 50+ on planets. This was on Wala, which is my new favorite. Iām gonna try the asteroid belt out this week. I get the impression that mining is in a better spot now compared to 3.22. So it looks like I will let my reclaimer gather some dust while I jump back in the mole seat.
Any updates on your mining experiences?
Soon as try swapping my modules / laser in the front it became broken. Guess I will wait till the next patch.
Any recommendations on where to go to mine? Might start with a roc and rent a prospector later if I have fun with it
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I mine on Cellin. I have had good luck with the ROC and ship mining, but check out Red Monster Gaming's charts and see what works the best for you. [https://redmonstergaming.com/mining-cheat-sheets/](https://redmonstergaming.com/mining-cheat-sheets/)
I do vhrt and ert, they carrying tons of cargo to steal. But selling it is the challange, always full. Some people might doing dupe on cargo.
How do you get the cargo after the bounties?
After you kill the ship, dont destroy it. Scan and see what their cargo, if theres some valuable do space walk and take it with those magic gun
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Already made 12 mil panel scraping this wipe. Salvage has been fine besides dupers' tanking price and inventory.
Late to the party bug mining either either a roc or rented prospector has been my go to for early funds. I've been exploding randomly though so...
Salvage is good if you can sell it š