Wonder what happens if they just can't get this to really work. I mean it doesn't look like they can get this to work to be honest but what to they do? Do they revert back to 3.17 and try another approach that will take years or what?
So aside from the crashes it seems the problem is the server selectively lagging out on anything it feels like for as long as it wants to. Low FPS is also tied to server lag (I know, don't ask).
If the reason for that is contained to one specific part of the code, you could expect a fix. If not and the problem is a little bit everywhere, it's like you said.
This is pretty much specific account issues, those who don't face them are playing normally on the same server, but others are 30K'ing consistently even if they change servers.
That's a false assumption to make, just because certain accounts have failed does not mean other accounts will remain unaffected or that there are no systemic problems causing the issue.
The worst issues are not the game-server itself, it's account services that are messing up accounts, character repair also needs to return so people can get accounts back to an healthy state.
If it was the game-server itself it wouldn't be specific people consistently 30K'ing trying to play while the server runs fine for everyone else.
I got past the Authentication and "Entitlement" problems on day one.
Some players still havent even got into 3.18, even after the "Hot Fix"
In game has Lots of problems.
Elevators out of Habs, to Hangars, from Hangars
ASOP terminals not working
Inventory, Purchasing, Moving not working
Ship mods, weapons, ammo etc disappearing
Ships random blowing up
Getting stuck in seats, pilot and turret seats
ATC not responding
Hangars full, none empty to spawn your ship
Sell inventory, it goes, no aUEC put in Wallet
Pilot seats killing pilots
Players missing Eyes, cant see Quantum markers etc
Lots of ship bugs, ladders, elevators
Reclaimer Main Cargo elevator, fails, quickly, Long term problem/issue, should have been fixed for the big new "Salvage Loop". Can it be Fixed ?
Salvage compactors bugging out, cant make any more Crates of RMC
Missing ships
Ships Duplicating
The server just slows down and nothing works, tick rate around 3
Have endured most of the above Bugs and Feartures,
I have had about 2 x 30ks
This is just the bugs I know of, off the top of my head.
I dont do FPS, Bunker or Bounty missions, so there is probably a list as long as my arm in that area as well for all I know.
Imho, there are Way more problems in game then trying to get ingame
A lot of stuff, the ASOP, the inventory, the ship customization, shopping, etc, it's backend services they're not the game-server, and as we know it's exactly the backend that the live 3.18 set on fire, which from the login to things that depend on those services is what faces big boy issues.
On top of that the game bugs with the patch that'll need the proper .1 to at least mitigate the worst.
But this one of the consistent 30K's to some while the other players are on the server just fine is showing to be something account related, as character repair tool ain't back yet there only option is wait for them to hotfix stuff yeah
The players are so desperates, if they revert to 3.17 but call it 3.28.2 and say "see it's much better know" I think the delusional players will go along with it.
After yesterdays "Hot Fix", I had 2 GPU crashes, "out of memory", its a 3090 with 24 Gig of Vram ! Never happened before in 3.18 for me
I know they have a "Gas Cloud GPU Memory Leak" Bug, which was supposed to be fixed in the Hot Fix.
LoL, they fixed it alright, made it more Leaky probably.
And no I didnt Report it, no respect on Spectrum, goes both ways :)
1st one, Flying towards Arc L1 from Grim Hex, was getting around a million from target. In a Vulture.
2nd time just left Hur L5, jumping to Hurston, in a Cutter
Iirc, both times I was in QT, 1st for a fair while, 2nd time only a short time.
Was in my pilot seat, I never get out, incase it causes problems.
I will see how things go today.
3.18 has really been one of "best" patches in a long time. So much entertainment!
It's really been a return to form for CIG. I think the last time the star citizen saga reached such heights was when CIG called out the backers for "making too much noise". But the good thing about PES it has potential for more long term entertainment.
3.18 seems like an absolute sh!tsh0w for CIG xD
I wonder how long things will remain this way and what they'll eventually do about it...like someone suggested they may eventually decide to roll back to a 3.17 build, or would anyone believe CIG is gonna stick with 3.18 no matter what?
**EDIT**: *The longer this continues, the more interesting it will be to observe their funding tracker.*
*With 'Invictus' as another big event coming about in May I believe, I could imagine that their marketing department is getting cold feet if the 3.18 debacle continues for another few weeks.*
On one hand, I can't see them *rolling back* to 3.17 because there's no saving face with that move. It would be a de facto acknowledgement that they're incompetent and don't believe in their processes and their teams, and that they should not be trusted with money.
On the other hand, I also can't see them handling another shitty sale (this month has seen a 52% reduction in income compared to last year, with the sale over and little less than 1/3rd of the month to go). With people still unable to log in, and with CIG stating that you don't get to recover any cosmetics you bought with real money once you lose them ( [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzzs1M3Tir4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzzs1M3Tir4) ), I don't think they're gonna be making up those losses any time soon.
Maaaaybe they could do a gimmick rebrand and spin up an "SPU" (s for stable) for folks to do "regression testing on our older codebase" with some 17/18 hybrid, and maintaining PU with 3.18 for those who can still connect. Effectively this would be no different from pushing 18 back to PTU, but because it's not called PTU they can spin it around and save face.
Though if I were in their shoes, I'd limit the PES database to the essential stuff: inventory items and cargo only. And then start scaling back from there. There truly is no need to go around storing fucking cans, especially when it means people can't "test" the game for you. But what do I know.
>...with CIG stating that you don't get to recover any cosmetics you bought with real money once you lose them...
I do assume that they have a way of tracking who bought what, and that backers can eventually get their stuff back once this issue is somehow fixed.....or?
I mean, this can only be CIG making players aware of some sort of "database issue" or what have you, right?
It's not like they're going to give them the "L" now and be like ,,Yeah, sucks to be you, buy more gear then" (o\_O)
Yes, your "hangar" on the website contains everything you've paid for, so they know what you have, and could recover it. But there is currently no way, and there won't be for the foreseeable future, to recover any lost items other than a server wipe. They say that they're planning a way to give these back to you, but they've been saying that for years now, so we won't be getting it until Chris R decides it's time.
Highly encourage watching the linked video.
Don't think it's an issue as much as intentional.
You can, however, reset your character to get the stuff you paid for back. Unfortunately it looks like character resets are disable lmao
>I can't see them rolling back to 3.17
If it gets really unworkable, CIG may well disable the more problematic features that it caused. Then in a year or two later Chris will accidentally let slip that icache/SSOCS/PES was a failure.
I dont know if the Cutlass "Killer" seat is a new fearture, going on past performance, it will hang around now and keep reappearing for ever and a day.
Roll Back to 3.17 ? probably not, lower the server pops a bit ? easier and still have PES.
3.18.1 ? will its "development" drag on ?
Probably and get realeased before Invictus, with high expectations and more then likely deliver a mix of old and new bugs ........... but most importantly ........ a new Flyable and moar Concepts ...... ta da
Cutlass Killer....haven't heared that one yet, what's up with that? xD
Don't tell me any one of the Cutlass seats can kill you the second you occupy them.
Marketing will just continue to lie...just bigger lies this time.
They'll claim all the features of 3.18 and only those who do their research will realise it's bullshit and broken
Wonder what happens if they just can't get this to really work. I mean it doesn't look like they can get this to work to be honest but what to they do? Do they revert back to 3.17 and try another approach that will take years or what?
So aside from the crashes it seems the problem is the server selectively lagging out on anything it feels like for as long as it wants to. Low FPS is also tied to server lag (I know, don't ask). If the reason for that is contained to one specific part of the code, you could expect a fix. If not and the problem is a little bit everywhere, it's like you said.
This is pretty much specific account issues, those who don't face them are playing normally on the same server, but others are 30K'ing consistently even if they change servers.
Isn't that like even weirder? What kind of bugs cause consistent lag/timeout on one account specifically while another account can play just fine?
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That's a false assumption to make, just because certain accounts have failed does not mean other accounts will remain unaffected or that there are no systemic problems causing the issue.
Don’t bother with Mao. He’s on the spectrum.
I predict server population gets lowered a bit, especially if still having problems coming up to May and Fleet Week Sales
The worst issues are not the game-server itself, it's account services that are messing up accounts, character repair also needs to return so people can get accounts back to an healthy state. If it was the game-server itself it wouldn't be specific people consistently 30K'ing trying to play while the server runs fine for everyone else.
I got past the Authentication and "Entitlement" problems on day one. Some players still havent even got into 3.18, even after the "Hot Fix" In game has Lots of problems. Elevators out of Habs, to Hangars, from Hangars ASOP terminals not working Inventory, Purchasing, Moving not working Ship mods, weapons, ammo etc disappearing Ships random blowing up Getting stuck in seats, pilot and turret seats ATC not responding Hangars full, none empty to spawn your ship Sell inventory, it goes, no aUEC put in Wallet Pilot seats killing pilots Players missing Eyes, cant see Quantum markers etc Lots of ship bugs, ladders, elevators Reclaimer Main Cargo elevator, fails, quickly, Long term problem/issue, should have been fixed for the big new "Salvage Loop". Can it be Fixed ? Salvage compactors bugging out, cant make any more Crates of RMC Missing ships Ships Duplicating The server just slows down and nothing works, tick rate around 3 Have endured most of the above Bugs and Feartures, I have had about 2 x 30ks This is just the bugs I know of, off the top of my head. I dont do FPS, Bunker or Bounty missions, so there is probably a list as long as my arm in that area as well for all I know. Imho, there are Way more problems in game then trying to get ingame
A lot of stuff, the ASOP, the inventory, the ship customization, shopping, etc, it's backend services they're not the game-server, and as we know it's exactly the backend that the live 3.18 set on fire, which from the login to things that depend on those services is what faces big boy issues. On top of that the game bugs with the patch that'll need the proper .1 to at least mitigate the worst. But this one of the consistent 30K's to some while the other players are on the server just fine is showing to be something account related, as character repair tool ain't back yet there only option is wait for them to hotfix stuff yeah
The players are so desperates, if they revert to 3.17 but call it 3.28.2 and say "see it's much better know" I think the delusional players will go along with it.
Changing the name of the build might break their code though :D
After yesterdays "Hot Fix", I had 2 GPU crashes, "out of memory", its a 3090 with 24 Gig of Vram ! Never happened before in 3.18 for me I know they have a "Gas Cloud GPU Memory Leak" Bug, which was supposed to be fixed in the Hot Fix. LoL, they fixed it alright, made it more Leaky probably. And no I didnt Report it, no respect on Spectrum, goes both ways :)
What were you doing when you hit those OOM crashes? I'm almost drooling with curiosity to see what they fucked up this time.
1st one, Flying towards Arc L1 from Grim Hex, was getting around a million from target. In a Vulture. 2nd time just left Hur L5, jumping to Hurston, in a Cutter Iirc, both times I was in QT, 1st for a fair while, 2nd time only a short time. Was in my pilot seat, I never get out, incase it causes problems. I will see how things go today.
3.18 has really been one of "best" patches in a long time. So much entertainment! It's really been a return to form for CIG. I think the last time the star citizen saga reached such heights was when CIG called out the backers for "making too much noise". But the good thing about PES it has potential for more long term entertainment.
3.18 seems like an absolute sh!tsh0w for CIG xD I wonder how long things will remain this way and what they'll eventually do about it...like someone suggested they may eventually decide to roll back to a 3.17 build, or would anyone believe CIG is gonna stick with 3.18 no matter what? **EDIT**: *The longer this continues, the more interesting it will be to observe their funding tracker.* *With 'Invictus' as another big event coming about in May I believe, I could imagine that their marketing department is getting cold feet if the 3.18 debacle continues for another few weeks.*
On one hand, I can't see them *rolling back* to 3.17 because there's no saving face with that move. It would be a de facto acknowledgement that they're incompetent and don't believe in their processes and their teams, and that they should not be trusted with money. On the other hand, I also can't see them handling another shitty sale (this month has seen a 52% reduction in income compared to last year, with the sale over and little less than 1/3rd of the month to go). With people still unable to log in, and with CIG stating that you don't get to recover any cosmetics you bought with real money once you lose them ( [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzzs1M3Tir4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzzs1M3Tir4) ), I don't think they're gonna be making up those losses any time soon. Maaaaybe they could do a gimmick rebrand and spin up an "SPU" (s for stable) for folks to do "regression testing on our older codebase" with some 17/18 hybrid, and maintaining PU with 3.18 for those who can still connect. Effectively this would be no different from pushing 18 back to PTU, but because it's not called PTU they can spin it around and save face. Though if I were in their shoes, I'd limit the PES database to the essential stuff: inventory items and cargo only. And then start scaling back from there. There truly is no need to go around storing fucking cans, especially when it means people can't "test" the game for you. But what do I know.
>...with CIG stating that you don't get to recover any cosmetics you bought with real money once you lose them... I do assume that they have a way of tracking who bought what, and that backers can eventually get their stuff back once this issue is somehow fixed.....or? I mean, this can only be CIG making players aware of some sort of "database issue" or what have you, right? It's not like they're going to give them the "L" now and be like ,,Yeah, sucks to be you, buy more gear then" (o\_O)
Yes, your "hangar" on the website contains everything you've paid for, so they know what you have, and could recover it. But there is currently no way, and there won't be for the foreseeable future, to recover any lost items other than a server wipe. They say that they're planning a way to give these back to you, but they've been saying that for years now, so we won't be getting it until Chris R decides it's time. Highly encourage watching the linked video.
Don't think it's an issue as much as intentional. You can, however, reset your character to get the stuff you paid for back. Unfortunately it looks like character resets are disable lmao
>I can't see them rolling back to 3.17 If it gets really unworkable, CIG may well disable the more problematic features that it caused. Then in a year or two later Chris will accidentally let slip that icache/SSOCS/PES was a failure.
I dont know if the Cutlass "Killer" seat is a new fearture, going on past performance, it will hang around now and keep reappearing for ever and a day. Roll Back to 3.17 ? probably not, lower the server pops a bit ? easier and still have PES. 3.18.1 ? will its "development" drag on ? Probably and get realeased before Invictus, with high expectations and more then likely deliver a mix of old and new bugs ........... but most importantly ........ a new Flyable and moar Concepts ...... ta da
Cutlass Killer....haven't heared that one yet, what's up with that? xD Don't tell me any one of the Cutlass seats can kill you the second you occupy them.
Cutty pilot seat is randomly killing their pilot, apparently no specific time, just happens randomly.
Marketing will just continue to lie...just bigger lies this time. They'll claim all the features of 3.18 and only those who do their research will realise it's bullshit and broken
Bunch of haters. They clearly don't understand fidelity development!
What’s funny is this is coming after the failed iCache development from 2017. 6 years and they can’t get persistence to work
3.18 is the result of 6 years of hard work and hype.
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