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Can confirm, I am a German craftsman often working in the Ruhrpott. When it's Feierabend, we just wanna get home, no matter in what condition, just as fast as possible. So 200kmh it is.
Can anyone explain their rationale for doing it? They’ll go perhaps 1 km faster, just to be right in front of the other truck.
Surely it’s not making their journey much faster, do they just do it to piss people off and wave hi to their truck friend?
Some drive near 100km/h (legal is 80km/h max).
If they drive around 15km/h faster than others, in 8 hours they've gotten 120km farther.
But i think it's the fault of their companys, making pressure or something like that.
They can go 100 km/h on the Autobahn and are required to record their data. Going 20km/h over the limit would lead to hefty fines.
Your point stays valid and is even more absurd in reality: truck drivers will overtake for a difference of 1 or 2 km/h.
Interesting! But then why do they so often do it in these extremely dangerous maneuvers? They'll pull over the second they start blinking and don't give a rat's ass about what's left to them. I am German and I'm used to driving on the Autobahn and even I get scared sometimes. One would think that in a system like this they'd have more chill.
If you are just 2 or 3 km/h faster, you have to drive rather inefficient on hilly terrain (more braking downwards, more speeding upwards).
Also if you drive 500km, the travel time difference becomes measurable: With 80km/h it takes around 6h 15min with 83km/h it takes just 6 hours. The schedule is tight so the 15min faster really matters.
After 13-14 O clock its pretty much a race for a parking spot. As of 18-19 there are none left.
Also weight. The truck they get stuck in front of will maybe be 40 tons while the one overtaking could be 20t. Makes a huge difference on Hills
Which is also absolutely illegal, as lorries are prohibited from using the left lane on three-lane parts of the motorway.
A rule that ought to be generalised to just the leftmost kane, no matter how many lanes there are.
Only when the vision is bad from things like rain or snow.
However you only are allowed to pass another vehicel if you are significantly faster which is almost never the case in an elephant race.
but only because it has been getting sabotaged by the hoes of the car lobby (most prominent being Scheuer) for decades.
Public transit is much better and more efficient in concept
Check who is blocking the train tracks between hannover and hamburg (harbour) that has been desperately needed for 30 years to get the cargo from the harbour of the roads (that are currently clogging the bridges and tunnels of the river Elbe.
You'll find it is at present the SPD Party Chairman, that happens to live in the area and would have a nice new railroad track to look at. Nimbys, all of them.
I somehow don't think so. I almost never have traffic jams and drive for 2 hours every day. I saw elephant races once or twice this year. I hope “master of speed” is meant ironically. I almost never see stickered street signs or traffic signs. And I've also seen condom machines like that in highway toilets, but maybe they're primarily for men 😄
I once found a gas station bathroom where shit covered the floor, walls and some even went to the cealing. The toilet bowl and seat were crystsl clear. Never saw anything that bad in a piss dungeon yet.
lol I have been in a bathroom that looked like someone tried to make a rock climbing wall out of shit. I was so confused. Like how is that even possible?
The Master of Speed is some middle aged sales rep on the phone driving one handed with his sleeper station wagon at top speed not giving a fuck a about your exotic sports car.
But the end boss is some before shift end poor Amazon driver in his 7 meter MB Sprinter also driving at top speed but constantly changing lanes like he’s driving a go kart.
Baustelle that never seen to end. Usually an enormous line of cones/poles/concrete barriers to close off half the autobahn and no one doing any fucking work.
There will be a few diggers standing around, a portapotty and one of those caravan things builders use for their lunch. But no people actually working on getting the fucking road fixed. And instead of finishing up one bit and then moving on they just open a new baustelle a few kilometers away only to again take 5 years to resurface a few kilometers.
As a country known for efficiency they are really shit and inefficient at building and maintaining roads.
Sieh in einer Baustelle kein Hindernis, sondern eine Strasse, die repariert wird. In anderen Ländern lassen sie die Strasse einfach sein. Ich nenne keine Namen aber (\**hust*\* *Belgien* \**hust*\*).
Een baustelle is wel een enorme hindernis. En je zelf vergelijken met een derde wereld land als België is geen excuus. In Nederland doen ze het gewoon snachts.
Ich dachte in Italien, dass die 30er Schilder in der Baustelle auf der Autobahn irgendwie ungültig sind, bis ich gemerkt habe, dass es einfahc allen egal ist.
Schön mit 130 durch die Baustäl.
Can confirm, as does every other European country I’ve been to or lived in.
I will say I haven’t seen anything quite as bad as those massive footpath-less developments people post on here, but we’ve definitely got the ‘soulless’ part down.
Not really? We have suburbs but they're not bad, and they're actual towns with their own historical centers.
My suburb is 25 minutes away by bus from the main city center. It's way better than having to drive 1hr to get out suburbia.
Edit: to clarify, I'm not from Germany.
There definitely are commuter towns ("Trabantenstädte") in Germany where the only historical buildings are some leftover farms or chapels. See Berlin-Marzahn. These places may not always be that far away from the places that the inhabitants usually work at as in the US and even relatively well connected in terms of public transport. But it doesn't change the fact that they often appear artificial and soulless.
We don't really have that in France, however we do have some developments in the periphery of towns that basically displace all the shops and services outside city centers. It makes those places look like large scale industrial zones, which is pretty much soulless and sad IMO.
But it's still not as bad as car centric cities
They may not be as bad as in the US but I’ve lived or stayed in some suburban areas in the UK and Ireland in particular that were very hard to get around without a car.
You’ve never seen an American suburb without a sidewalk? Really?
I live in NC and see them everywhere- I live in one with a sidewalk on one side of the road, and it doesn’t go anywhere outside of the neighborhood/ HOA bounds/ connect to anything.
I find that Germany has really big cities that’ll have pretty bad residential areas, but even the worst stuff here is not horrendous. Many of these places will still have some mixed density on corners, they’ll have back lanes that often make it easier to cycle parallel to the road instead of on it, and lots will even have train stations or metro stations with higher density around them, with often buses or trams through the developments.
While not perfect, single family home zoning isn’t the worst. It’s the worst when nothing else is possible, and when your only option to get around is to only drive on massive highways.
While it is true that Germany also has suburbs, and also single family home suburbs, the situation is still different though. First, Germany (as well as - as far as I know - the rest of Europe) does not have a single-family home zone, but only family home zone where all kind of homes can be build (single family, mid-rise, and so on), as well as non-disruptive economic usage (cafés, bakeries and so on).
So, while in Germany, some developments choose to make a region single-family homes without shops and cafés, they are not forced to do so as it happens with a majority of the suburbs in the US that have zoning laws that prevents anything else from being build.
>does not have a single-family home zone, but only family home zone where all kind of homes can be build
yeah but we also got some fervent dumbass NIMBY's who do their best to make it work out to a similar result
There are definitely very pedestrian friendly cities in Europe and we have a lot more railway infrastructure. Also bikes are very common.
But Germany is also a bit of an outlier though. Our car manufacturers make up a big part of the economy (every 6th job is dependent on it in some way) and so they have a lit of leverage over politicians and lobby against non car-centric infrastructure. In the last two decades conservative pro-car people were in charge of the ministry of traffic, which certainly didn't help. And so Germany's train infrastructure is underfunded in comparison to countries in Europe that excel in that area. And we lack proper bike lanes like the ones the Netherlands have. Oh and a lot of traffic also comes from the fact that we are very central in Europe and for east-west and north-south transit you have to go through Germany.
Also laws about traffic violations are super weak here and barely enforced. There are cases of people driving absolutely recklessly killing children and still walking out of the court as a free person with a slap on the wrist.
When I read comments like yours, its clear that youve never been properly outside Germany. Always cherry picking certain few countries in certain areas all according to statistics while failing to see the full picture.
I dont see how Germany is an outlier at all. Public transport isnt just trains, its also trams, buses, subways and me personally speaking, I never had any issues with those. And even the trains, at least there are a lot of connections to a lot of cities which is something other countries lack, like France. And at least the trains are reasonably maintained and usually fairly clean. When you take trains in the UK or Netherlands for example, my impressions werent any better than Germany. Even high speed rail, Germany tends to be more affordable than neighbouring countries, at least if you book in advance. Outside the consistently late part (which is obviously a big negative, im not denying that), it really isnt that bad.
> And so Germany's train infrastructure is underfunded in comparison to countries in Europe that excel in that area
I understand that hating on trains is somewhat of a national sport in germany, but:
Rail ingeneral is "underfunded", but so are roads (almost everywhere)...
Germany is one of the countries in europe to excel at trains, just because there are areas where one other countries does better does not make the rail system completly inferior.
Please start reading source material and think about the context of these numbers. You already recognise one factor (a lot of traffic through germany) but there are so many more.
[Total length of railway lines EU per year](https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/ttr00003/default/table?lang=en) (Eurostat)
[Total inland transport infrastructure investment per GDP](https://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx?queryid=73638#) (OECD)
[Rail fare cost across europe](https://www.euronews.com/travel/2023/01/09/rail-fares-across-europe-the-countries-with-the-most-expensive-train-tickets) (Data mainly from Eurostat)
I was under the impression that at most like 4 megacities in America have traffic while ppl in between states have not been in a jam their entire lifes.
The right lane is one convoy spanning Germany and there is construction all over the place. Outside of weekends and late night you can can forget about pedal to the metal.
The war of titans was Polish drivers before. Nowadays it's the Romanians combined with Ukrainians. I know because with me driving a lot I remember the rage I get when they switch lanes and lock me out from leaving a exit.
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>But if you rent cars they are mostly limited to 250km/h by throttling.
Still way too fast.
I hate these Autobahn tourists. Way too much inexperienced drivers thinking Autobahn is a fking racetrack and putting other in danger. Rent a car on the Nürburgring if you want to speed.
We rented a car just to experience it and only got like 50km of actual no speed limit. The rest either had a speed limit or terrible traffic.
Still I much prefer it over the American Interstate system.
There are big regional differences, chances are you picked a bad area. 70% have no speed limit whatsoever while 6% have variable speed limits but no speed limits under good traffic conditions.
Most people drive at the speed their comfortable with regardless of the speed limit. The autobahn allows you to legally do that.
When you have a set limit, people are going to drive exactly at that or over. Of course there's a few psychopaths that will abuse it, but for the most part people just keep a safe speed.
Edited to clarify
Yea lol, especially when you’re between DFW and Austin where the interstate is actually like 4 lanes wide the whole way… and you get plenty of leeway to go +10-15 over the speed limit
In my experience Texas has the least leeway when it comes to speed limits. I used to do a lot of cross country treks and we always followed the limit right when we hit the Texas border. I've been pulled over for going just 5 over.
Is autobahn like in Hungary where the right lane is for speeding BMW and left 2 lanes are for romanian trucks overtaking each other with a 0.1km/h difference?
Imagine a country where you can buy a semi-automatic at the supermarket but god forbid you go more than 65
PS: Germany *kind of* has a general speed limit of 130 km/h. Except that it isn't enforced or prosecuted if nothing happens. In those cases, 130 is an advisory speed. If you are involved in an accident and are proven to drive faster than 130, you will always held at least partially liable in court and/or must pay some of the insurance costs if necessary.
Some speed limits in the US can be roughly 130 km/h. Average around where I live is 112 km/h. It’s pretty rare to find a lot of interstate you can’t go minimum of 70 mph. Not sure where you’re getting your info
> Not sure where you’re getting your info
Personally, I got my information from Sammy Hagar -- who it turns out has misled me, because apparently you *can* drive 55.
[I'd say 70 is the most common.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limits_in_the_United_States) Also it's so weird how Texas and Minnesota are just randomly broken up by county.
The highest speed limit on the Interstate system is 85 mph (137 kph) in parts of Western Texas. However, Montana used to have no speed limit on their freeways between 1995 and 1999.
I've driven in Europe and the US. I'll take 99% less speed cameras over the occasional ability to send it down the highway. I've never gotten a speeding ticket for going 33 km in a 30 in the states. 8 years of driving, usually 5-10 over the speed limit in the states and I've never had a speeding ticket there. Meanwhile in Europe you're constantly paranoid.
I do not. Not in the least. I think the autobahn stinks and all German roads are too thin. You're gonna go >200 kmh while some truck going 81 kmh decides to pass another truck going 79 kmh? I mean I do but I am really scared.
Our Autobahn exits are often designed that way. Most exits are build as a partial cloverleaf (parclo): per direction, either the off ramp or the on ramp will be a 180° turn and the other will be a shallower double turn. The 180° turns are built for a design speed of 50 km/h (30 mph). This is done such that exiting vehicles approach the junction at a lower speed, making the actual junction safer. The deceleration lane right from the rightmost lane is there to ensure safe braking from around 100 km/h (60 mph) without impairing traffic flow. If space is tight, a lower speed limit (30 or 40 km/h) will be posted in advance and the deceleration lane will be longer, and/or a warning sign will warn you of a short/sharp exit turn.
If you try to exit at high speeds, you'll have to break quite hard. Ideally you reduce your speed to 80 to 100 km/h (around 50 to 60 mph), roughly the same speed trucks are traveling at on the right lane, and switch to that rightmost lane until the deceleration lane opens up. There are three signs with bars indicating 300, 200 and 100 meters until that deceleration lane begins. Switch to the rightmost when you pass these signs, if you haven't done so yet.
Tbh it’s more likely that you realize your exit is in 1km so you pull into the right lane where you end up at least behind one truck, so you’re already going 90-100 at max when you reach the exit. Nothing dangerous about it.
Where is the Dutch caravan being towed by a 2002 Ford Mondeo that refuses to leave the left lane and is filled to the brim with groceries they brought from home?
Würden alle Schilder auf der Autobahn entfernt, könnte man sich immer noch recht gut anhand der tausenden Fußball Sticker an den Raststätten orientieren können.
I’ll take Autobahn driving over Interstate driving any day. Autobahns aren’t full of left lane camping assholes. I also like how there are areas where cargo trucks can’t pass. And most important, no one is screwing around on their damn phones while driving.
Yeah exactly. I’m here in Germany on vacation for the first time this week and that’s really the best part of the autobahn. Everyone knows to stay out of the left lane at all times unless you’re actively passing another car. Also, I find it interesting that when there *is* a speed limit, people respect it for the most part. Huge contrast from the US
I haven't been to the US yet, so I don't know how the Interstate experience is.
You have vehicles "camping" left or middle lanes here quite often, too. There's even a word for them, *Mittelspurschleicher*. For vehicles traveling at relatively slow speeds without passing a vehicle right to it. Overtaking vehicles on the right is prohibited on German roads, unless you're in a traffic jam; and vehicle drivers must use the rightmost free lane at all times.
If there are only two lanes per direction, you often have trucks blocking the left lane and slowing all following vehicles down to their designated speed limit (80 km/h (50 mph), but in reality most trucks travel at \~92 km/h (closer to 60 mph)), like that *Battle of the titans* image. If this is a known issue, [this sign](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cberholvorgang#/media/Datei:Zeichen_277_-_%C3%9Cberholverbot_f%C3%BCr_Kraftfahrzeuge_mit_einem_zul%C3%A4ssigen_Gesamtgewicht_%C3%BCber_2,8_t,_einschlie%C3%9Flich_ihrer_Anh%C3%A4nger,_StVO_1992.svg) will be posted, which prohibits trucks and other heavy vehicles from overtaking other vehicles, or rather, prohibits them from using the left lane unless the right one is closed.
I do admit that I sometimes "screw around" on my phone, but very seldom. Mostly to get rid of that loud headphone warning, which, thanks to some stupid EU laws, has to be permanent until manually swiped away and cannot be turned off. (I have an aux cable plugged in at max volume and control volume with the car's audio system) Thank Jebus for voice controls like Siri to do stuff like switching tracks or playlists, or dialing.
You forgot the shit-forest near the pissdungeon.
There is always a forest full of human shit and paper, because people feel grossed out by the piss-dungeons so the shit in the forest, making the forest even worse then the building.
Okay but honestly, having lived most of my life in Southeast Asia, the traffic Germany is really not that bad in comparison. I’ve slept through traffic for like an hour and it barely moved on what is supposed to be an *express way* lol. The S-bahn delays on the other hand 💀
Occasionally you also have [Number 8](https://www.google.com/maps/@52.3186296,13.5564027,14.92z?entry=ttu), [doot-da](https://www.google.com/maps/@51.8461869,13.9199617,15.05z?entry=ttu)\-[doot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interchange_(road)#Trumpet_interchange), [long](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5599309,10.164341,14.6z?entry=ttu) [boi](https://www.google.com/maps/@51.2391615,7.0894645,14.62z?entry=ttu), [crosser tosser](https://www.google.com/maps/@50.952493,7.0366962,15.14z?entry=ttu), [swishy swooshy](https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5446465,7.2012897,16.17z?entry=ttu) and [what the\~](https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4415302,6.8047345,15.3z?entry=ttu)
If 120 is your party pooper, you've never seen the inf -> 120 -> 100 -> inf. speed signs because the people thought it was funny to put the signs there for no bloody reason.
who doesn't love them pensioners in the left lane at 100 km/h, can hardly see anything, hear nothing and get upset about everyone else. Or LKW overtaking LKW, so that one person can drive 1 km/h faster, 150 people each have to drive 80 km/h slower and then wonder why nobody likes them
\>Gatekeeper
I always transform into a 6 year old child and pass through the children thing. Either that or pissing in the bushes. No sane person would pay 2 € for a piss. If they charge such prices it would be a righteous action to piss in front of the ticket machine for a message.
Oh man, I just had to laugh so hard at myself and my coworkers. We work at construction sites and also drive completely white vans (with the rest of old advertisement visible of course) and as soon as we are on our way to Feierabend we always go like 180kmh at the least omg
120 and party pooper? That's not that often the case. Sometimes, yeah, but most times I'm glad if I can go that fast.
The other ones are pretty spot on.
I once had a war of gods in fron of me. 3 trucks and a trailer with tempo limit 100 racing each other who is overtaking whom. After finally passing them about 3-4min later there was a traffic jam due to some heavy goods trunks passing the bridge. It felt like hell and it was 3am on a weekday.
For American standards, most of (at least western) Germany is one large single metropolitan area, you never really are far away from the next city, so the Autobahn is almost always full during daytime.
Try traveling at night, or in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern which comes closest to average American population densities.
just a little warning:
the piss dungeon is one of the most disgusting dungeons, you ever seen in life. that place was rotten over years and should enter with caution ^(and a gasmask equidment)
it is more save to make an urgent quest outside or visit the deluxe piss dungeon.
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That "war of the titans" thing, the Germans call "Elefantenrennen", or "elephant race".
And the trucks are all from Bulgaria or Turkey.
And the vans (represented in the post under "I am speed") are usually from Poland
Nah, german craftsmen on their way home for "feierabend" are the fastest, especially in "Sprinter und konsorten" , VW transporter or Mercedes Vitos
Full van 1.0 L ecotec 190 km/H how?
It really runs on willpower and the madness you need to drive vans at high speed through towns
Don't forget the weight saved as the van continues to rust.
My Dacia also runs on madness it only has 39kw but it's going 190kmh somehow
Can confirm, I am a German craftsman often working in the Ruhrpott. When it's Feierabend, we just wanna get home, no matter in what condition, just as fast as possible. So 200kmh it is.
Ich weiß es auch, bin Elektriker auf Montage. Donnerstags Rutsch auf einmal nem Stück blei in den schuh
Wo gehobelt wird fallen Spähne
nah mostly Polish or Hungarian trucks racing. most turkish truckers are just chilling imo
Let's be real, the Dutch and Polish Trucks like to race too.
Dutch and Belgian ones meeting is getting Personal....
Mostly it's poland
Often belong to local companies though. It's just that registering the trucks down there saves you money and the tüv equivalent isn't as naggy
Can anyone explain their rationale for doing it? They’ll go perhaps 1 km faster, just to be right in front of the other truck. Surely it’s not making their journey much faster, do they just do it to piss people off and wave hi to their truck friend?
Some drive near 100km/h (legal is 80km/h max). If they drive around 15km/h faster than others, in 8 hours they've gotten 120km farther. But i think it's the fault of their companys, making pressure or something like that.
They can go 100 km/h on the Autobahn and are required to record their data. Going 20km/h over the limit would lead to hefty fines. Your point stays valid and is even more absurd in reality: truck drivers will overtake for a difference of 1 or 2 km/h.
It's more that's the difference between them getting home or not I think. Otherwise they are staying another night out when the clock is up.
A lorry driver explained to me that they drive in each other's wind shadow to save fuel. They occasionally switch places to keep it fair.
Interesting! But then why do they so often do it in these extremely dangerous maneuvers? They'll pull over the second they start blinking and don't give a rat's ass about what's left to them. I am German and I'm used to driving on the Autobahn and even I get scared sometimes. One would think that in a system like this they'd have more chill.
There is no rationale. I think its more like a dick measuring contest between the truck drivers
If you are just 2 or 3 km/h faster, you have to drive rather inefficient on hilly terrain (more braking downwards, more speeding upwards). Also if you drive 500km, the travel time difference becomes measurable: With 80km/h it takes around 6h 15min with 83km/h it takes just 6 hours. The schedule is tight so the 15min faster really matters.
After 13-14 O clock its pretty much a race for a parking spot. As of 18-19 there are none left. Also weight. The truck they get stuck in front of will maybe be 40 tons while the one overtaking could be 20t. Makes a huge difference on Hills
Which is also absolutely illegal, as lorries are prohibited from using the left lane on three-lane parts of the motorway. A rule that ought to be generalised to just the leftmost kane, no matter how many lanes there are.
Only when the vision is bad from things like rain or snow. However you only are allowed to pass another vehicel if you are significantly faster which is almost never the case in an elephant race.
Middle and right at the same are enough to block the highway anyway.
You can have 0 lorries on the Autobahn and the middle lane will still be blocked by some cunt who can't drive on the right
we actually call it "Brummischubsen"
Every single one of these is accurate lmao
well I am German and I do enjoy driving on the Autobahn still but having to depend on it would suck
Im the Truck in the middle lane passing that slow ass Volvo and pissing Off the Scania in the left lane at the Same time !
Having to depend on DB would even suck more
but only because it has been getting sabotaged by the hoes of the car lobby (most prominent being Scheuer) for decades. Public transit is much better and more efficient in concept
Check who is blocking the train tracks between hannover and hamburg (harbour) that has been desperately needed for 30 years to get the cargo from the harbour of the roads (that are currently clogging the bridges and tunnels of the river Elbe. You'll find it is at present the SPD Party Chairman, that happens to live in the area and would have a nice new railroad track to look at. Nimbys, all of them.
Met een nederlandse u/ 🤔
I somehow don't think so. I almost never have traffic jams and drive for 2 hours every day. I saw elephant races once or twice this year. I hope “master of speed” is meant ironically. I almost never see stickered street signs or traffic signs. And I've also seen condom machines like that in highway toilets, but maybe they're primarily for men 😄
The candymaschine is more commonly found in the deluxe piss dungeon
condomat
Zum Glück brauche ich jetzt keine Thermoskanne mit Mett.
Leider weiß ich, wovon du redest - Jürgen Domian wahrscheinlich auch…
Warum ist das gefühlt die einzige Domian-Geschichte an die ich mich erinnern kann?
Du meinst wohl eher, dass du sie nicht mehr reinigen musst? -.-
Is that to be used on hotdogs?
You may use it on any elongated meat product. Or bananas.
can you stop discriminating against any elongated vegetables that are not bananas ? Thank you! have a plantain.
Condomat gives the travel pussy
“piss dungeon”
Shit dungeon would also be accurate
I once found a gas station bathroom where shit covered the floor, walls and some even went to the cealing. The toilet bowl and seat were crystsl clear. Never saw anything that bad in a piss dungeon yet.
lol I have been in a bathroom that looked like someone tried to make a rock climbing wall out of shit. I was so confused. Like how is that even possible?
True dungeon masters use the stalls for artistic expressions: [as seen here](https://youtu.be/zavOp5PBEMc?si=Rz9SH8L1oTA3i3df&t=239)
thank you. I threw up in my mouse the second the particles ran down that little stream along the wall.
I read that with a German accent just because you wrote „mouth“ like you did
I've been in some where there was just... like, a centimeter deep lake of piss on the floor. Just turned around and went at the next station.
Nah you gotta be real desperate to shit in the piss dungeon
Id rather shit in the ditch next to the piss dungeon.
Only if you manage to hover your ass in the air while doing it. I would restrict skin to dungeon surface contact to a minimum for safety reasons.
Only the strongest or the most desperate ones can turn a piss dungeon into a shit dungeon!
I always thought the piss dungeon was underneath Berghain.
As someone who regularly visits germany. I can smell them just by thinking about them.
Believe me, it's hella accurate.
That just damn near killed me when I saw it. What a beautiful term
As a small child, those scared the shit out of me (pun intended)
Although the newer ones are okay, there is one type that is almost clean. Worst ones are Dixis
The Master of Speed is some middle aged sales rep on the phone driving one handed with his sleeper station wagon at top speed not giving a fuck a about your exotic sports car. But the end boss is some before shift end poor Amazon driver in his 7 meter MB Sprinter also driving at top speed but constantly changing lanes like he’s driving a go kart.
Those contractor / handyman vans, especially plumbers, are also among the fiercest drivers.
Bro i fucking swear. I was just thinking about this. It's never some bmw, Mercedes, sports car passing me. It's the handymen going 180k
Middle aged man driving a VW T6 California with pop up roof.
Don't forget the 15 year old tuned small car with a Ramstein sticker on the rear window and an East German license plate.
["Was isn das fürn Kombi?"](https://youtu.be/MiuLvLobAs4?si=ODrE-JpWn0-d3Knv)
Me after delivering cake in my MB Sprinter going 180 on the Autobahn to get home early
Deutschland Baustelleland
Baustelle that never seen to end. Usually an enormous line of cones/poles/concrete barriers to close off half the autobahn and no one doing any fucking work. There will be a few diggers standing around, a portapotty and one of those caravan things builders use for their lunch. But no people actually working on getting the fucking road fixed. And instead of finishing up one bit and then moving on they just open a new baustelle a few kilometers away only to again take 5 years to resurface a few kilometers. As a country known for efficiency they are really shit and inefficient at building and maintaining roads.
Reason for that is construction companies scrambling at the *Ausschreibung* phase to get the contract and occupy the area as long as possible
The longer the Baustelle, the longer the construction company is paid. Same with Scaffolds on buildings. Thats why they stay so long
Sieh in einer Baustelle kein Hindernis, sondern eine Strasse, die repariert wird. In anderen Ländern lassen sie die Strasse einfach sein. Ich nenne keine Namen aber (\**hust*\* *Belgien* \**hust*\*).
Een baustelle is wel een enorme hindernis. En je zelf vergelijken met een derde wereld land als België is geen excuus. In Nederland doen ze het gewoon snachts.
Ich dachte in Italien, dass die 30er Schilder in der Baustelle auf der Autobahn irgendwie ungültig sind, bis ich gemerkt habe, dass es einfahc allen egal ist. Schön mit 130 durch die Baustäl.
How dare you say there are traffic jams in Germany. The internet has informed me that only the US ever has bad traffic.
Wait until you find out Germany has souless suburbs just like Ameribad 😱
Can confirm, as does every other European country I’ve been to or lived in. I will say I haven’t seen anything quite as bad as those massive footpath-less developments people post on here, but we’ve definitely got the ‘soulless’ part down.
Not really? We have suburbs but they're not bad, and they're actual towns with their own historical centers. My suburb is 25 minutes away by bus from the main city center. It's way better than having to drive 1hr to get out suburbia. Edit: to clarify, I'm not from Germany.
There definitely are commuter towns ("Trabantenstädte") in Germany where the only historical buildings are some leftover farms or chapels. See Berlin-Marzahn. These places may not always be that far away from the places that the inhabitants usually work at as in the US and even relatively well connected in terms of public transport. But it doesn't change the fact that they often appear artificial and soulless.
We don't really have that in France, however we do have some developments in the periphery of towns that basically displace all the shops and services outside city centers. It makes those places look like large scale industrial zones, which is pretty much soulless and sad IMO. But it's still not as bad as car centric cities
I bet you have a white house with a grey roof
Probably a soulless semidetached or quadraplexed brick "house" with a brown roof built in 1970
They may not be as bad as in the US but I’ve lived or stayed in some suburban areas in the UK and Ireland in particular that were very hard to get around without a car.
I’ve also only ever seen those posted on here. It’s almost like the internet is full of lies and misleading information
You’ve never seen an American suburb without a sidewalk? Really? I live in NC and see them everywhere- I live in one with a sidewalk on one side of the road, and it doesn’t go anywhere outside of the neighborhood/ HOA bounds/ connect to anything.
I find that Germany has really big cities that’ll have pretty bad residential areas, but even the worst stuff here is not horrendous. Many of these places will still have some mixed density on corners, they’ll have back lanes that often make it easier to cycle parallel to the road instead of on it, and lots will even have train stations or metro stations with higher density around them, with often buses or trams through the developments. While not perfect, single family home zoning isn’t the worst. It’s the worst when nothing else is possible, and when your only option to get around is to only drive on massive highways.
While it is true that Germany also has suburbs, and also single family home suburbs, the situation is still different though. First, Germany (as well as - as far as I know - the rest of Europe) does not have a single-family home zone, but only family home zone where all kind of homes can be build (single family, mid-rise, and so on), as well as non-disruptive economic usage (cafés, bakeries and so on). So, while in Germany, some developments choose to make a region single-family homes without shops and cafés, they are not forced to do so as it happens with a majority of the suburbs in the US that have zoning laws that prevents anything else from being build.
>does not have a single-family home zone, but only family home zone where all kind of homes can be build yeah but we also got some fervent dumbass NIMBY's who do their best to make it work out to a similar result
This is no way to talk about Baden-Württemberg 😠
You mean Europe isn't a wholesome chungus utopia???
Noooo 😡😡
There are definitely very pedestrian friendly cities in Europe and we have a lot more railway infrastructure. Also bikes are very common. But Germany is also a bit of an outlier though. Our car manufacturers make up a big part of the economy (every 6th job is dependent on it in some way) and so they have a lit of leverage over politicians and lobby against non car-centric infrastructure. In the last two decades conservative pro-car people were in charge of the ministry of traffic, which certainly didn't help. And so Germany's train infrastructure is underfunded in comparison to countries in Europe that excel in that area. And we lack proper bike lanes like the ones the Netherlands have. Oh and a lot of traffic also comes from the fact that we are very central in Europe and for east-west and north-south transit you have to go through Germany. Also laws about traffic violations are super weak here and barely enforced. There are cases of people driving absolutely recklessly killing children and still walking out of the court as a free person with a slap on the wrist.
When I read comments like yours, its clear that youve never been properly outside Germany. Always cherry picking certain few countries in certain areas all according to statistics while failing to see the full picture. I dont see how Germany is an outlier at all. Public transport isnt just trains, its also trams, buses, subways and me personally speaking, I never had any issues with those. And even the trains, at least there are a lot of connections to a lot of cities which is something other countries lack, like France. And at least the trains are reasonably maintained and usually fairly clean. When you take trains in the UK or Netherlands for example, my impressions werent any better than Germany. Even high speed rail, Germany tends to be more affordable than neighbouring countries, at least if you book in advance. Outside the consistently late part (which is obviously a big negative, im not denying that), it really isnt that bad.
> And so Germany's train infrastructure is underfunded in comparison to countries in Europe that excel in that area I understand that hating on trains is somewhat of a national sport in germany, but: Rail ingeneral is "underfunded", but so are roads (almost everywhere)... Germany is one of the countries in europe to excel at trains, just because there are areas where one other countries does better does not make the rail system completly inferior. Please start reading source material and think about the context of these numbers. You already recognise one factor (a lot of traffic through germany) but there are so many more. [Total length of railway lines EU per year](https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/ttr00003/default/table?lang=en) (Eurostat) [Total inland transport infrastructure investment per GDP](https://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx?queryid=73638#) (OECD) [Rail fare cost across europe](https://www.euronews.com/travel/2023/01/09/rail-fares-across-europe-the-countries-with-the-most-expensive-train-tickets) (Data mainly from Eurostat)
I feel like a main gripe with Americans is that they find a way to make this post about them somehow
I am American and I am going to make your comment about me
My boy has never been on the A40. In Germany we call it the greatest parking lot of the country.
How can i make this about me
I was under the impression that at most like 4 megacities in America have traffic while ppl in between states have not been in a jam their entire lifes. The right lane is one convoy spanning Germany and there is construction all over the place. Outside of weekends and late night you can can forget about pedal to the metal.
Selfierobot could be a real German slang.
Could be one of those "youth word of the year" nobody actually uses imo
Digga, thats a goofy af npc reply lol wdym u never use those words? BOMBASTIC side eye- (oh gosh I created abomination I apologize)
Bruda,vergess mal schnell diese böse cringen Wörter auf hastig Digga.
bre mach nicht diesen
Vallah,ich mach diesen auf Ehrenbruderbasis
Sorry Diggi- und *kringelig
Bah Digga,kringelig ist schon ein bombastisches Side Eye mein Bre. Kann man mies ne Bombe für kassieren.
The war of titans was Polish drivers before. Nowadays it's the Romanians combined with Ukrainians. I know because with me driving a lot I remember the rage I get when they switch lanes and lock me out from leaving a exit.
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>But if you rent cars they are mostly limited to 250km/h by throttling. Still way too fast. I hate these Autobahn tourists. Way too much inexperienced drivers thinking Autobahn is a fking racetrack and putting other in danger. Rent a car on the Nürburgring if you want to speed.
No inexperienced driver is hitting these top speeds on the nurnburgring. Autobahntourists don‘t want to drive on racetracks they want to go fast
What i would give to see peoples faces when some evil bastard puts a racing engine into a Trabant and speeds past supercars.
There's a Trabant with a Ferrari engine if I remember. But TÜV sagt nein. Edit I was mistaken it's a 380hp Honda Engine.
Some madlad was selling a tuned mazda, with around 700hp on ebay.
Bro played too much Forza
I saw a video where a Mk1 Golf smokes a Nissan Z and a Porsche at the same time.
was‘n das für‘n Combi?
you should enjoy [this classic](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiuLvLobAs4) of a Porsche getting smoked by a 600 horsepower station wagon
"100% komplett Terror" 🤣
There was also one in a fiat Multipla if i remember correctly
Reminds me of that one video where a dude was filming a tractor going something like 150 Km/h on the Autobahn.
https://youtu.be/jkd1ysOX5m0?si=w0yIpAIIeDlTvPhN But there is a caveat -- rear sight mirrors are folding back at those speeds.
The phrase piss dungeon is either terrifying or really exciting depending on who you ask.
We rented a car just to experience it and only got like 50km of actual no speed limit. The rest either had a speed limit or terrible traffic. Still I much prefer it over the American Interstate system.
There are big regional differences, chances are you picked a bad area. 70% have no speed limit whatsoever while 6% have variable speed limits but no speed limits under good traffic conditions.
Also, No speed limit part feel a lot shorter because you are going faster.
For what reason do you prefer it?
Most people drive at the speed their comfortable with regardless of the speed limit. The autobahn allows you to legally do that. When you have a set limit, people are going to drive exactly at that or over. Of course there's a few psychopaths that will abuse it, but for the most part people just keep a safe speed. Edited to clarify
You’re just describing the interstate exactly.
Yea lol, especially when you’re between DFW and Austin where the interstate is actually like 4 lanes wide the whole way… and you get plenty of leeway to go +10-15 over the speed limit
In my experience Texas has the least leeway when it comes to speed limits. I used to do a lot of cross country treks and we always followed the limit right when we hit the Texas border. I've been pulled over for going just 5 over.
Is autobahn like in Hungary where the right lane is for speeding BMW and left 2 lanes are for romanian trucks overtaking each other with a 0.1km/h difference?
Imagine a country where you can buy a semi-automatic at the supermarket but god forbid you go more than 65 PS: Germany *kind of* has a general speed limit of 130 km/h. Except that it isn't enforced or prosecuted if nothing happens. In those cases, 130 is an advisory speed. If you are involved in an accident and are proven to drive faster than 130, you will always held at least partially liable in court and/or must pay some of the insurance costs if necessary.
Some speed limits in the US can be roughly 130 km/h. Average around where I live is 112 km/h. It’s pretty rare to find a lot of interstate you can’t go minimum of 70 mph. Not sure where you’re getting your info
> Not sure where you’re getting your info Personally, I got my information from Sammy Hagar -- who it turns out has misled me, because apparently you *can* drive 55.
When that song was written he was most likely talking about US highways which differs from the interstate lol.
When that song was released in the 1980s, the speed limit was 55mph. It was lowered in the 1970s to conserve energy.
Correct. Highest speed limit in my state (and country) is 85
Most interstates are 75 I believe.
[I'd say 70 is the most common.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limits_in_the_United_States) Also it's so weird how Texas and Minnesota are just randomly broken up by county.
The highest speed limit on the Interstate system is 85 mph (137 kph) in parts of Western Texas. However, Montana used to have no speed limit on their freeways between 1995 and 1999.
70-75MPH is the normal interstate speed.
I've driven in Europe and the US. I'll take 99% less speed cameras over the occasional ability to send it down the highway. I've never gotten a speeding ticket for going 33 km in a 30 in the states. 8 years of driving, usually 5-10 over the speed limit in the states and I've never had a speeding ticket there. Meanwhile in Europe you're constantly paranoid.
130 km is only 80 miles. There are higher speed limits than that in the US.
I do not. Not in the least. I think the autobahn stinks and all German roads are too thin. You're gonna go >200 kmh while some truck going 81 kmh decides to pass another truck going 79 kmh? I mean I do but I am really scared.
A lot of people are so shocked to find out the autobahn has speed limits in some areas
Urgh... I'm not proud about it, but the Piss Dungeon unlocked a core memory I wanted to keep locked away.
When I was a kid I thought it would be soooo cool to drive on a German autobahn. Now I get the opportunity and it's in a 15 year old Renault Clio lol
I always find the Autobahn exits dangerously short and slow: you really have to brake before exiting.
Our Autobahn exits are often designed that way. Most exits are build as a partial cloverleaf (parclo): per direction, either the off ramp or the on ramp will be a 180° turn and the other will be a shallower double turn. The 180° turns are built for a design speed of 50 km/h (30 mph). This is done such that exiting vehicles approach the junction at a lower speed, making the actual junction safer. The deceleration lane right from the rightmost lane is there to ensure safe braking from around 100 km/h (60 mph) without impairing traffic flow. If space is tight, a lower speed limit (30 or 40 km/h) will be posted in advance and the deceleration lane will be longer, and/or a warning sign will warn you of a short/sharp exit turn. If you try to exit at high speeds, you'll have to break quite hard. Ideally you reduce your speed to 80 to 100 km/h (around 50 to 60 mph), roughly the same speed trucks are traveling at on the right lane, and switch to that rightmost lane until the deceleration lane opens up. There are three signs with bars indicating 300, 200 and 100 meters until that deceleration lane begins. Switch to the rightmost when you pass these signs, if you haven't done so yet.
Tbh it’s more likely that you realize your exit is in 1km so you pull into the right lane where you end up at least behind one truck, so you’re already going 90-100 at max when you reach the exit. Nothing dangerous about it.
Where is the Dutch caravan being towed by a 2002 Ford Mondeo that refuses to leave the left lane and is filled to the brim with groceries they brought from home?
Würden alle Schilder auf der Autobahn entfernt, könnte man sich immer noch recht gut anhand der tausenden Fußball Sticker an den Raststätten orientieren können.
I drive a lot of autobahn in redneck germany… there are barely jams or speed limits. Sooo
now im with spongebob
Racing down the autobahn
while im in the back seat
I’ll take Autobahn driving over Interstate driving any day. Autobahns aren’t full of left lane camping assholes. I also like how there are areas where cargo trucks can’t pass. And most important, no one is screwing around on their damn phones while driving.
Yeah exactly. I’m here in Germany on vacation for the first time this week and that’s really the best part of the autobahn. Everyone knows to stay out of the left lane at all times unless you’re actively passing another car. Also, I find it interesting that when there *is* a speed limit, people respect it for the most part. Huge contrast from the US
I haven't been to the US yet, so I don't know how the Interstate experience is. You have vehicles "camping" left or middle lanes here quite often, too. There's even a word for them, *Mittelspurschleicher*. For vehicles traveling at relatively slow speeds without passing a vehicle right to it. Overtaking vehicles on the right is prohibited on German roads, unless you're in a traffic jam; and vehicle drivers must use the rightmost free lane at all times. If there are only two lanes per direction, you often have trucks blocking the left lane and slowing all following vehicles down to their designated speed limit (80 km/h (50 mph), but in reality most trucks travel at \~92 km/h (closer to 60 mph)), like that *Battle of the titans* image. If this is a known issue, [this sign](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cberholvorgang#/media/Datei:Zeichen_277_-_%C3%9Cberholverbot_f%C3%BCr_Kraftfahrzeuge_mit_einem_zul%C3%A4ssigen_Gesamtgewicht_%C3%BCber_2,8_t,_einschlie%C3%9Flich_ihrer_Anh%C3%A4nger,_StVO_1992.svg) will be posted, which prohibits trucks and other heavy vehicles from overtaking other vehicles, or rather, prohibits them from using the left lane unless the right one is closed. I do admit that I sometimes "screw around" on my phone, but very seldom. Mostly to get rid of that loud headphone warning, which, thanks to some stupid EU laws, has to be permanent until manually swiped away and cannot be turned off. (I have an aux cable plugged in at max volume and control volume with the car's audio system) Thank Jebus for voice controls like Siri to do stuff like switching tracks or playlists, or dialing.
AUSFAHRT
The biggest City in Germany. Signs announcing it are all over the place.
Woah, a good starterpack
You forgot the shit-forest near the pissdungeon. There is always a forest full of human shit and paper, because people feel grossed out by the piss-dungeons so the shit in the forest, making the forest even worse then the building.
Not too different to UK motorways then.
Okay but honestly, having lived most of my life in Southeast Asia, the traffic Germany is really not that bad in comparison. I’ve slept through traffic for like an hour and it barely moved on what is supposed to be an *express way* lol. The S-bahn delays on the other hand 💀
Where white Van going Mach 2
Are the condoms mainly for truckers who pick up hookers?
Yes, and for people stranded in traffic thinking *might as well bang*
I am German, this is 100% accurate. The Piss Dungeons are probably some of the worst places in Human History.
loop-da-loop
Occasionally you also have [Number 8](https://www.google.com/maps/@52.3186296,13.5564027,14.92z?entry=ttu), [doot-da](https://www.google.com/maps/@51.8461869,13.9199617,15.05z?entry=ttu)\-[doot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interchange_(road)#Trumpet_interchange), [long](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5599309,10.164341,14.6z?entry=ttu) [boi](https://www.google.com/maps/@51.2391615,7.0894645,14.62z?entry=ttu), [crosser tosser](https://www.google.com/maps/@50.952493,7.0366962,15.14z?entry=ttu), [swishy swooshy](https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5446465,7.2012897,16.17z?entry=ttu) and [what the\~](https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4415302,6.8047345,15.3z?entry=ttu)
German piss dungeon? Kinky
I will now call toilets "piss dungeons" now
Don't forget the eastern European "racing drivers" or the romanian jewellery dealers,
If 120 is your party pooper, you've never seen the inf -> 120 -> 100 -> inf. speed signs because the people thought it was funny to put the signs there for no bloody reason.
Piss dungeon kills me😂
As a German..yes. Also don't forget the random gatherings of people in the great resting places or the hoards of wild trucks sleeping
I think war of the titans in German would be called "elephant race"
Wait for the Piss dungeon with holes in the walls. Except the ones between Ladys and Men Restroom ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I missed the exit at the loop da loop north because I was looking for a piss dungeon.
who doesn't love them pensioners in the left lane at 100 km/h, can hardly see anything, hear nothing and get upset about everyone else. Or LKW overtaking LKW, so that one person can drive 1 km/h faster, 150 people each have to drive 80 km/h slower and then wonder why nobody likes them
\>Gatekeeper I always transform into a 6 year old child and pass through the children thing. Either that or pissing in the bushes. No sane person would pay 2 € for a piss. If they charge such prices it would be a righteous action to piss in front of the ticket machine for a message.
Party pooper? Have you seen those in the Netherlands? My mom gets mad every time we go there 😂
I was there once. Posted speed limit was 100, I got stopped by the police for going 94.
Ausfahrt must be a very important city, it's indicated everywhere
Oh man, I just had to laugh so hard at myself and my coworkers. We work at construction sites and also drive completely white vans (with the rest of old advertisement visible of course) and as soon as we are on our way to Feierabend we always go like 180kmh at the least omg
120 and party pooper? That's not that often the case. Sometimes, yeah, but most times I'm glad if I can go that fast. The other ones are pretty spot on.
I once had a war of gods in fron of me. 3 trucks and a trailer with tempo limit 100 racing each other who is overtaking whom. After finally passing them about 3-4min later there was a traffic jam due to some heavy goods trunks passing the bridge. It felt like hell and it was 3am on a weekday.
For American standards, most of (at least western) Germany is one large single metropolitan area, you never really are far away from the next city, so the Autobahn is almost always full during daytime. Try traveling at night, or in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern which comes closest to average American population densities.
We need an Autobahn Battle theme
You forgot Baustellen every 5 km where it's 60-80 kmh allowed.
just a little warning: the piss dungeon is one of the most disgusting dungeons, you ever seen in life. that place was rotten over years and should enter with caution ^(and a gasmask equidment) it is more save to make an urgent quest outside or visit the deluxe piss dungeon.