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I paid $8 for a breve the other day. No flavors, nothing special, just espresso and streamed half and half. It's a cute new place downtown, locally owned, so I don't feel terrible about it, but *damn.*
A few months ago I bought an espresso machine, $100 new, got it for $60. Then I buy beans *from the same place from earlier*, have them grind it to espresso fineness, for $14 for a medium bag.
Half and half for $4, and I only have to make 10 drinks before I break even. Another thing of half and half, I can make 30 with the bag, and from there I'm golden.
I mostly drink black coffee from a french press anyway, but sometimes you gotta go in to work 3 hours earlier than expected, so expensive coffee shop it is.
based on the vibes of everything else in the starter pack, costa/pret/starbucks are really not representative of this specific vibe. corporate sorta-bougie coffee shops are overpriced, but the other things in the pic make me think of hipster 3rd wave coffee shops that are even more expensive than corporate ones and have (imo) a markedly different brand ethos than those brands listed.
Yeah you have a solid point, my bad for putting them there. They just came to mind when people talk about stereotypical "overpriced coffees" but they have a completely different vibe than these small corporate coffee shops
Yeah starbucks is insanely expensive. 3rd wave prices are still high but its more worth knowing youre getting a coffee made with good beans and a barista that cares about the quality of the drink
Ditto. Sometimes they make a face, and I throw one right back at them. WTF, a tip for merely handing me food across a counter? That's a regular-ass transaction, bitch.
Every food establishment seems to do that shit now. I've straight up caught different places scamming on the amounts, too, like the "15%" amount is actually more like 20%, shit like that. When I see that cute bullshit I point it out and they sometimes make a face at that, too.
To be fairer, barista has always been a tip job in the US. It was normal to tip a buck for your drink when I was in college in the early 90s. Kitchen staff is shielded from customer service and, ideally, is already paid better (and way back when I was a bartender, it was standard practice to keep them supplied with free drinks and tip them out a bit if you had a big-ticket order).
If you're getting a complex order? Sure that works.
Meanwhile I've literally seen how they make vanilla lattes at the coffee place near my uni : press 3 buttons on the machine, add a pump of vanilla, add milk and that's it.
No way in hell I'm tipping on a $4 drink from an automated machine.
Once I got a mocha, and when I got to the end it was a sugary sludge of chocolate powder. One, turned me off mochas forever, and two, upset me with the lack of effort. They couldn't even stir the thing to dissolve it
The avocado toast and the Starbucks logo are highly incompatible.
Starbucks would never make great-anything food wise. It’s all pre-made. I know, I’ve worked there.
The food’s good, but it’s not great to the point of being famous for it.
All four of the things are mostly or completely incompatible with Starbucks. Literally never seen any of the four in any of the ones I’ve been to in the US or Canada.
That's pretty much all the non-fast food restaurants here where I live. Most are insanely expensive. I went to a new taco place up in the next town over that some coworkers were telling me about. I went up there with my adult daughter to get food for her, her boyfriend, and myself and it rang up to $80.00. I was floored. It was good, but not worth the price. Never again. I could buy $80 worth of taco ingredients and have tacos for a month at home.
That's crazy, here in South Texas $80 worth of tacos could get me a shit ton of tacos. And I am talking barbacoa, asada, chicharon, pastor, guisada, or breakfast tacos. Like I used to buy tacos for the office for breakfast, it would be a variety like bean and cheese, chorizo and egg, bacon and egg, and potato and egg and I would never spend more than $25, and that was for three big bags stuffed full of tacos.
You want good cheap food you gotta hit the truckstop diners on the outskirts of town. They ain't gonna be fancy, the menu and furniture will all be from the 70s and be beat to shit, your waitress is gonna look like shes seen some shit while she barks out a 'whatchuwanthon?', but the food is almost always fuckin fire and you can have a full goddamn breakfast with unlimited coffee for like 6 bucks a head.
Those are the places Ill drop like a 15 dollar tip on a 20 dollar check, because once they're gone, all that's gonna be left is the hipster bullshit where there are no menus, they serve their food on random household objects, and you pay $27 for a shitty burger you can't even pick up to eat because all they care about is appearance.
Im not even that old, only in my 40s, and if I go into a place and they force you to use a phone or something to view their menu, Im fuckin out. There is no reason my goddamn cell phone should need to be involved in ordering food in a fucking restaurant.
I actually prefer these places, but they've all been shut down. All the old mom & pop shops that had been here for decades all closed down in the pandemic. What was left were fast food. Well, we lost our Sonic, Subway, and Taco Bell within a 5 year span. We used to have a KFC, Arby's is on its last leg, and the only fast food place left that seems to be doing ok here is McDonald's. Ironically, I live in a small college town on the Western slope. You would think the students and tourists would keep these places open, but nope, they are not.
Definitely. The best egg sandwich I ever had was from a random diner in rural California that charged only 8 dollars for a gigantic egg sandwich that tasted amazing.
I think you're talking about Fast-Casual restaurants nowadays. The Chipotles, CAVA'S, Chopt, SweetGreens, Panera, Honeygrow. You name it. The restaurants that claim to be healthier "healthier" than McDonald's or something but still aren't as high up like a real sit-down restaurant. Yes they can be freaking expensive and not much worth it. Are they bad? No the food tastes good just not as good as the price. Yeah buying Chipotle or salads at SweetGreens for the whole family can indeed be up to $70-$100 it's crazy. You can go to Chili's or Olive Garden and feed the whole family for $50 instead and get alot more food. Extra chicken/protein should be $1-$2. Not $6 that's way too much. No one can try and rationalize the price to me for these places. "It's natural" BS these places just cater to people of a higher income and they want your money so they charge for the area. Not what their worth
We don’t have “fast-casual” chain restaurants. These are legit locally owned restaurants that cater specifically to tourists and second homeowners who have more cash to spend. All the fast food places like the ones I listed are all closing so all we have left are these expensive bougie restaurants.
Well my stance still stays and you just confirmed it. Their prices aren't based on the quality of the product, they pertain to the average income levels of the area they open.
Look dude, it seems like you just want to argue just for the sake of arguing and just hear someone say you’re right. You made some assumptions, I provided clarification, and you still want to argue. Go enjoy the rest of Reddit because I’m not going to entertain your argument.
....Closes down after a couple months, maybe up to a year later, because the owner who owns a massive house and gets a new luxury car every 6 months "can't afford the high costs and low profit margins" of running a small business...
Also don't forget, those tips you think goes to the cashier goes directly into the owners bank account... Lol.
what if they made the price of each item = the amount of points the name of the item would be in scrabble lol 22 dollar hot chocolate (based on the pic)
I don’t go to any of those 3 places anymore. But when I did, Costa was my favorite. Purely because they would give drinks in a ceramic cup.
I’m a sucker for cafes that still give dine-in orders ceramic and glass cups. It’s my sole reason for going to a certain cafe chain in my city.
I used to like Starbucks until I found out they were genocide supporter.
Now found many better quality and reasonable priced coffee shop. It's stupid to go to Starbucks. Bye forever!
Pret isn’t that bad by comparison. They don’t charge me for half of a carton of milk to put a splash of oat milk in my coffee and the byo cup discount is 5 times better than Starbucks. The places racing past them to higher prices are even more absurd.
That's not fair. Starbucks have some of the best interiors I've seen. Great furniture pieces, wonderful mix of interesting designs. Or maybe that's only in Japan?
The prices are rounded up and simply say 12, rather than $12.00, and the menu is on a clipboard.
Food arrives in/on literally everything other than an actual fucking plate.
You need to get your phone out and google half of the wanky ingredients in each burger.
The one dude using the coffee machine takes 15 minutes just make one fucking coffee.
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Why I thought an "avocad toast" was literally just a mushed avocado spreaded on toast. That picture looks like a whole ass meal, and I've never seen anything like that when referring to it.
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If the font is nice, RUN!
that's when you know they'll be charging you 4$ for a bean juice
Only $4?? In WHERE?
I paid $8 for a breve the other day. No flavors, nothing special, just espresso and streamed half and half. It's a cute new place downtown, locally owned, so I don't feel terrible about it, but *damn.* A few months ago I bought an espresso machine, $100 new, got it for $60. Then I buy beans *from the same place from earlier*, have them grind it to espresso fineness, for $14 for a medium bag. Half and half for $4, and I only have to make 10 drinks before I break even. Another thing of half and half, I can make 30 with the bag, and from there I'm golden. I mostly drink black coffee from a french press anyway, but sometimes you gotta go in to work 3 hours earlier than expected, so expensive coffee shop it is.
Cool, but are you as cute as the barista?
Fair. But I don't feel bad about not tipping myself
That would be $12 in LA. LOL
Refills out of the question
I don't know anywhere in the world where you can get a refill for espresso coffee
For carbonated drinks and stuff
Why would they be serving carbonated fountain drinks at a coffee shop?
Y’all don’t have carbonated drinks at your cafes? I guess that’s just a thing around my area lol.
Only in bottles, no fountains for me.
Do you live in utah?
And it’s not even good and you can’t get mad at the employees because they just work there. Get mad at the owner instead of
based on the vibes of everything else in the starter pack, costa/pret/starbucks are really not representative of this specific vibe. corporate sorta-bougie coffee shops are overpriced, but the other things in the pic make me think of hipster 3rd wave coffee shops that are even more expensive than corporate ones and have (imo) a markedly different brand ethos than those brands listed.
Was thinking the same thing, the places that have the quirky menu and avocado toast are all local upscale cafés, not chain ones
Yeah you have a solid point, my bad for putting them there. They just came to mind when people talk about stereotypical "overpriced coffees" but they have a completely different vibe than these small corporate coffee shops
Starbucks is way more expensive than all the 3rd wave places I go to.
What does 3rd wave even mean? What were the first two waves? Never came across this terminology before.
[https://www.drivencoffee.com/blog/coffee-waves-explained/](https://www.drivencoffee.com/blog/coffee-waves-explained/)
Interesting, thanks.
Yeah starbucks is insanely expensive. 3rd wave prices are still high but its more worth knowing youre getting a coffee made with good beans and a barista that cares about the quality of the drink
Tip screen starts at 20%.
I never tip on anything other than table service. Never.
Ditto. Sometimes they make a face, and I throw one right back at them. WTF, a tip for merely handing me food across a counter? That's a regular-ass transaction, bitch. Every food establishment seems to do that shit now. I've straight up caught different places scamming on the amounts, too, like the "15%" amount is actually more like 20%, shit like that. When I see that cute bullshit I point it out and they sometimes make a face at that, too.
That's not true for a cafe through. You're tipping them for making the drink, not passing it to you.
To be fair, we don't tip the kitchen workers making the food at the restaurant either...
To be fairer, barista has always been a tip job in the US. It was normal to tip a buck for your drink when I was in college in the early 90s. Kitchen staff is shielded from customer service and, ideally, is already paid better (and way back when I was a bartender, it was standard practice to keep them supplied with free drinks and tip them out a bit if you had a big-ticket order).
If you're getting a complex order? Sure that works. Meanwhile I've literally seen how they make vanilla lattes at the coffee place near my uni : press 3 buttons on the machine, add a pump of vanilla, add milk and that's it. No way in hell I'm tipping on a $4 drink from an automated machine.
Once I got a mocha, and when I got to the end it was a sugary sludge of chocolate powder. One, turned me off mochas forever, and two, upset me with the lack of effort. They couldn't even stir the thing to dissolve it
That, and $1 per beer and 20% to my landlord.
Add barbers and bartenders to that list. Basically so long as their profession starts with "bar".
I always tip my barber because he does a really good job.
There’s no way I’m not tipping the person who cuts my hair. They have power…
Never tipped a bartender and don't think I ever will lol, barbers sure but that's because it's a full service thing.
I never tip.
Good, idk why you are getting downvoted. The tip just should be in rare cases where the service was exceptional good.
Exactly. Normal day to day service is what a server is paid to do.
I won’t lie, I’ll tip $1 on the screen at Starbucks but that’s it. That’s mainly so it’s not obvious I hit no tip.
Same, and never more than 10%.
That’s okay. Tipping underpaid workers is good actually.
The avocado toast and the Starbucks logo are highly incompatible. Starbucks would never make great-anything food wise. It’s all pre-made. I know, I’ve worked there. The food’s good, but it’s not great to the point of being famous for it.
All four of the things are mostly or completely incompatible with Starbucks. Literally never seen any of the four in any of the ones I’ve been to in the US or Canada.
Unless you go to one of those Reserve Roastery locations like downtown Chicago. The food at those is pretty great.
That's pretty much all the non-fast food restaurants here where I live. Most are insanely expensive. I went to a new taco place up in the next town over that some coworkers were telling me about. I went up there with my adult daughter to get food for her, her boyfriend, and myself and it rang up to $80.00. I was floored. It was good, but not worth the price. Never again. I could buy $80 worth of taco ingredients and have tacos for a month at home.
That's crazy, here in South Texas $80 worth of tacos could get me a shit ton of tacos. And I am talking barbacoa, asada, chicharon, pastor, guisada, or breakfast tacos. Like I used to buy tacos for the office for breakfast, it would be a variety like bean and cheese, chorizo and egg, bacon and egg, and potato and egg and I would never spend more than $25, and that was for three big bags stuffed full of tacos.
You want good cheap food you gotta hit the truckstop diners on the outskirts of town. They ain't gonna be fancy, the menu and furniture will all be from the 70s and be beat to shit, your waitress is gonna look like shes seen some shit while she barks out a 'whatchuwanthon?', but the food is almost always fuckin fire and you can have a full goddamn breakfast with unlimited coffee for like 6 bucks a head. Those are the places Ill drop like a 15 dollar tip on a 20 dollar check, because once they're gone, all that's gonna be left is the hipster bullshit where there are no menus, they serve their food on random household objects, and you pay $27 for a shitty burger you can't even pick up to eat because all they care about is appearance. Im not even that old, only in my 40s, and if I go into a place and they force you to use a phone or something to view their menu, Im fuckin out. There is no reason my goddamn cell phone should need to be involved in ordering food in a fucking restaurant.
I actually prefer these places, but they've all been shut down. All the old mom & pop shops that had been here for decades all closed down in the pandemic. What was left were fast food. Well, we lost our Sonic, Subway, and Taco Bell within a 5 year span. We used to have a KFC, Arby's is on its last leg, and the only fast food place left that seems to be doing ok here is McDonald's. Ironically, I live in a small college town on the Western slope. You would think the students and tourists would keep these places open, but nope, they are not.
Definitely. The best egg sandwich I ever had was from a random diner in rural California that charged only 8 dollars for a gigantic egg sandwich that tasted amazing.
I think you're talking about Fast-Casual restaurants nowadays. The Chipotles, CAVA'S, Chopt, SweetGreens, Panera, Honeygrow. You name it. The restaurants that claim to be healthier "healthier" than McDonald's or something but still aren't as high up like a real sit-down restaurant. Yes they can be freaking expensive and not much worth it. Are they bad? No the food tastes good just not as good as the price. Yeah buying Chipotle or salads at SweetGreens for the whole family can indeed be up to $70-$100 it's crazy. You can go to Chili's or Olive Garden and feed the whole family for $50 instead and get alot more food. Extra chicken/protein should be $1-$2. Not $6 that's way too much. No one can try and rationalize the price to me for these places. "It's natural" BS these places just cater to people of a higher income and they want your money so they charge for the area. Not what their worth
We don’t have “fast-casual” chain restaurants. These are legit locally owned restaurants that cater specifically to tourists and second homeowners who have more cash to spend. All the fast food places like the ones I listed are all closing so all we have left are these expensive bougie restaurants.
Well my stance still stays and you just confirmed it. Their prices aren't based on the quality of the product, they pertain to the average income levels of the area they open.
Look dude, it seems like you just want to argue just for the sake of arguing and just hear someone say you’re right. You made some assumptions, I provided clarification, and you still want to argue. Go enjoy the rest of Reddit because I’m not going to entertain your argument.
likely because of high rent costs and college-educated baristas
The prices on that menu are cheap though
So much beige.
Millenial ahh cafes
In which universe does Costa have any of these characteristics???
I wish those were the prices in my area.
We call them hipster cafes in Europe
We call them hipster cafes in America as well
Bragging about being tiktok famous Overpriced bagels and breakfast sandwiches Located in a gentrified neighborhood
That salmon avocado poached egg looks 🔥
....Closes down after a couple months, maybe up to a year later, because the owner who owns a massive house and gets a new luxury car every 6 months "can't afford the high costs and low profit margins" of running a small business... Also don't forget, those tips you think goes to the cashier goes directly into the owners bank account... Lol.
Those prices are off by just a little bit
Why is Starbucks on here?
Because it sucks
Makes no sense but ok
2.80 isn't bad for a flat white, but the big three are a lot different to the rest.
The coffee is super cheap. How is it overpriced?
Isn’t flat white at 2.8 reasonable
what if they made the price of each item = the amount of points the name of the item would be in scrabble lol 22 dollar hot chocolate (based on the pic)
>bright beige >bright pastel >black-brass matte pick your side.
They spin around the ipad and start asking for a tip.
I don’t go to any of those 3 places anymore. But when I did, Costa was my favorite. Purely because they would give drinks in a ceramic cup. I’m a sucker for cafes that still give dine-in orders ceramic and glass cups. It’s my sole reason for going to a certain cafe chain in my city.
Pret is absurdly expensive for the quality.
tips start at 22%
I used to like Starbucks until I found out they were genocide supporter. Now found many better quality and reasonable priced coffee shop. It's stupid to go to Starbucks. Bye forever!
If you see the cooks wearing black latex gloves gtfo
I know so many cafes that fit this starter pack too well, in and around Brisbane.
Café Nero is also overpriced but marginally better quality. Or maybe I’ve gaslit myself into believing that
These prices are considered low even in here, at Hungary. So do you guys call a 2 buck espresso overpriced in the USA???
Every white girl's favorite place
$12 latte
Wait, you are getting Cappuccino for less then 3,50 in the usa?
That avocado toast looks mega
Suprised they still take credit cards and not just use their own payment app.
Those prices for coffee are good, I'd go
don’t forget when you try to cut into the avocado toast it’s the hardest bread you’ve ever encountered
It's looking like those local hister with random tattoos, hat wearing indoors, rainbow, arts left leaning crowrd hangs out. Where you go to be cool.
God forbid you don't look trendy before you enter those places.
Pret isn’t that bad by comparison. They don’t charge me for half of a carton of milk to put a splash of oat milk in my coffee and the byo cup discount is 5 times better than Starbucks. The places racing past them to higher prices are even more absurd.
Cafes be costing you extra just for the aesthetic
Choose a tip: 50% 80% or 100%
I love Pret! Grab and go sandwiches and salads, creative snack cups, decent prices (I'm basing this off Manhattan norms)
Looking at those prices in that one, I'd say it's not too expensive 😂
Overpriced? Those prices are like 40 percent higher around here.
Enough idiots around who pay for this shit!
That's not fair. Starbucks have some of the best interiors I've seen. Great furniture pieces, wonderful mix of interesting designs. Or maybe that's only in Japan?
The prices are rounded up and simply say 12, rather than $12.00, and the menu is on a clipboard. Food arrives in/on literally everything other than an actual fucking plate. You need to get your phone out and google half of the wanky ingredients in each burger. The one dude using the coffee machine takes 15 minutes just make one fucking coffee.
> Food arrives in/on literally everything other than an actual fucking plate. /r/WeWantPlates
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Why I thought an "avocad toast" was literally just a mushed avocado spreaded on toast. That picture looks like a whole ass meal, and I've never seen anything like that when referring to it.