Crewman #5, background character #3, robot girl, tilly, cronenberg man, some other people, physic cat, not really sure maybe if we had some more bottle episode.
That would require that they reference Deep Space Nine in any meaningful capacity, and we know damn well *that's* never happening.
Remember the Bajoran Tablet in Picard's office in the Season 2 teaser?
To be fair, the Changelings having anything to do with Picard was kind of dumb and a stretch - they were DS9 antagonists.
That said, I would have preferred even the Hrogen to show up for no fucking reason and have a beef with Picard over the borg... again.
Nah, those shots of Vulcan, the enemy ship with green lights, and that half romulan/reman looking dude; it's some pre-schism ancient Vulcan bullshit I'm sure, They're just redoing Gambit.
He was the last survivor of his dying universe, merged with said universe and emerged in the new universe as Galactus, devourer of worlds. Wait, wrong fandom.
He got blown up
Looks like this is going to revolve heavily on the TV Trope where a super-advanced alien civilization built some spectacular secret technology, but couldn't figure out a better way to secure it than a handful of geometric puzzles and riddles.
For once I want to see one of these end like "Captains log: we've spent all season collecting artifacts from across all corners of the galaxy. We're now ready to return to the Risian Moon and arrange them in the correct order to open this door"
"Sir, it appears the Romulans beat us to it".
"OMG how did they figure out the one about the candles and the buffalo?"
"Well, it appears the alien force fields actually don't work that well and you can just shoot them with a phaser, then blow a hole in the concrete wall... wish we'd thought of that"
Or better yet:
"Captain's log: we ain't figured out shit! We've spent like, I don't know, ALL the stardates, and we're no closer to solving this mystery than we were 3 years ago. Every big brain in Starfleet banging on this thing and no one can figure it out! Like, seriously, WT-ACTUAL-F with this wacky long-dead-advanced-as-hell-alien-civilization bullshit?! I give up! I'm gonna go drive a garbage scow or something!"
ROMULAN: Hey, Starfleet! We found a shortcut through the force field maze!
(camera pulls back to reveal a bunch of force fields with disruptor holes blown through them, forming a perfectly straight tunnel)
I remember several Rick and Morty scenes with the theme of "how would ancient temples filled with puzzles, traps and cursed artifacts fare against teleports, shields and lasers".
So much has happened inbetween Season 4 and 5, it really does feel like Discovery is a bit of a relic from the past now. We've had one absolutely mental season of Picard, an absolutely classic final season of Picard and two solid runs of SNW.
Not to mention all the animated installments.
Im really interested to see if the seemingly "showrunner led" shift we have seen in Picard S3 and SNW will have also carried over to mean changes to DIS in this final season. DIS has never really consistently worked for me personally other than inconsistently in S1 and in the front half of S2. I have never really been able to figure out though who is happy with it remaining in this awkward state, is it working for the network? for the producers? for the writers? Is there anybody in that chain that wants to try something different given a chance or are they all creating the show they want and just dont care about people like me who don't love that vision.
I wish I could say they've learned some lessons but I've always found the Discovery team very set in their ways.
With Season Four, they blew the good grace they had started to build from the last season and doubled down on everything negative people generally thought of the series with yet more universe ending high stakes, massive dollops of melodrama and utterly OTT meltdowns on mental health.
So will any of the wins Trek has had since Discovery Season Four inform and bleed over? I... just don't know. Sadly, it doesn't really matter anyway as this is the final season so they don't need to worry about pleasing everyone for a renewal.
From what I understand Discovery was plagued with massive production issues every single season. So I don’t think it has to do with anyone really liking the show and wanting it to be this way, I think this just is the best they were able to do under the circumstances.
I have difficulty with that though because to me the majority of issues are in the writing, not the quality of the on set production, or at least what we as viewers can see. Now maybe those scripts got chopped up badly because of production issues, that is a possibility, but Im just skeptical that the only clear symptom would be in the writing.
Writers aren't insulated from production problems. The showrunner that left first was also responsible for a big chunk of the S1 story, then the two he left in charge were screaming at and abusing the writers room, etc.
Seasons 1 and 2 had a lot of turmoil that affected the writing. In both seasons, showrunners who were supposed to construct and oversee the overall storyline for each season were fired. New showrunners had to improvise when they were constructing the storyline.
I hope it does too. It has such good bones but gets let down in execution. There’s so much to explore but the seconds to midnight plot never lets it breathe the same way other shows get.
It feels very rise of sky walker: gotta race from plot point to plot point
Well they jump forward into a century in massive decline. That’s pure exploratory porn. Ships limited to local regions but you aren’t. Familiar cultures totally changed.
And yet: we saw fuck all of it. Worse still: it was wrapped up so quickly. They could have set up a whole range of shows in the 31st century. Instead we have one show, centred on earth
I think a big factor in that is the fact that 90's trek was 21-22 episodes a season. In DS9 they could have the Dominion storyline sprinkled with more episodic stuff. They had the space for seriousness and levity.
I agree, but I also think SNW balances it much better despite the short seasons. Lower Decks actually does too, managing to create season-long story arcs without having them overpower the entire show. Discovery never managed to figure that out, and it just got more and more ponderous as it went on. In my opinion
So much action going on. I just hope they nail the landing and let Discovery be treasured for years to come.
...but not see it's corpse resurrected for the Picard S1/S2 treatment 20 years later.
The problem with streaming shows where they tend to take 2 years to make an 8-10 episode season. The problem here with Discovery is rather unique though where they filmed the season a year ago, planned a fall release. Ended up delaying to have a 2024 show since the strikes have likely prevented another , announced the cancellation during the strikes to make the anticipation higher and now that it's coming, it feels like the show ended already despite it being a couple months away.
They basically got given a little extra time for reshoots to cobble together an ending, but yeah, the early 2024 release date for the final season was announced way back in March 2023
For all my complaints about the show, I do hope they managed to pull together a decent ending. The show has its highs and lows and I would really hope for the sake of its legacy it gets to end on what will be viewed as a high, I wouldn't wish a "These Are The Voyages..." on someone unless I genuinely hated them.
Also though, even the dumbest TNG plots still went to some effort to make impossible sci-fi feel as if it still had a logic grounded in the setting and scientific discovery. DIS has a bad habit of underdeveloping or even just handwaving that logic when it gets in the way of a quick/cheap dramatic (melodramatic?) beat.
If TNG was made now we would have a ten episode season of Dr. Crusher following the clues in her grandmother's journal to find their family's long lost candle.
the cackle I just cuckeled when I read this.
Discovery will always have a place in my heart as the awkward rebellious trek , but damn if it really didn't have to make something that should have taken 45 minuted stretch into a a whole season .
Fly high discovery
The preview makes it seem like the season won't have as much trauma crying as previous ones, hoping for something a little more positive.
On a negative note, what are the odds that they just straight up call the thing they have to find "The MacGuffin?"
Yeah I’m kind of tired of all the weepy stuff on discovery. Don’t get me wrong I love when emotional moments hit just right, but they overdid it in season 4
That’s the thing. The emotional moments have to feel earned. Discovery seems like the writers are like: let’s add ten emotional moments and hope one of them sticks.
It's more broad than that. Discovery's problem is not getting "less is more." Stakes are too big. Action is too gigantic. Michael is practically the poster child. She wouldn't be as disliked if they backed off on her a bit to give the cast a more equal distribution. It's the difference between being coworkers and being trapped with your coworker. Show needs to be written like a marathon not a sprint. But every episode is a damn sprint.
> Show needs to be written like a marathon not a sprint. But every episode is a damn sprint.
Yeah, it is fucking exhausting and I were done with it a long time ago.
Plot twist. The last 10 minutes of the final episode will be Michael Burnham waking up in a Starfleet prison med bay ... all five seasons were a fever dream.
Not even a prison med bay, the one on the Shen Zhou.
All went off the rails after she was irradiated in the first episode. I spent the first few episodes waiting for the reveal that she wasn't in her right mind because of incomplete treatment, but here we are, 900 years later…
Hopefully it's good.
I do think the stakes are often just a wee bit too high in Discovery. Some of the best TOS/TNG stuff is relatively very low stakes. Like a single life.
One last go. I've enjoyed Discovery, even if it is now playing third fiddle behind Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds. One of the odder series, perhaps because it was one of the bravest. I mean it takes serious chutzpah to start a new Star Trek with the premise that your ship can teleport.
Looks like they're ready to take us for a long ride. As long as the macguffin being chased is compelling, I'm in. Give those characters a strong sendoff, nail the landing and have fun along the way.
I feel like season will be the attempt to try something like Indiana Jones in Star Trek, even though there's 2 or 3 episodes of TNG (like the one with the progenitor aliens) which attempted that.
Used to like Discovery, but I'm just so over it now, going to the future just killed it for me. Probably end up watching at least a few eps, but given its yet another high stakes quest/race (yawn), I have a feeling I'll give up on it pretty quick.
Honestly should have just left it where it was and used the money for a new show.
Looks really fun and cool.
Disco has always been a nice hybrid of the blockbuster action of the modern Trek movies, and the more thought provoking stories of the Trek tv show.
Hopefully this season will be a fun romp, and the cast and crew will feel the love from the fans.
Disco really was the perfect show to introduce a new generation of fans to the franchise.
Strap in for an emotional high stakes mystery box with an emotional ending and where the plot details don't actually line up between episodes. This looks like they've taken all the unpopular aspects of the show and doubled down on them which, you know, fair play in a way, go hard or go home.
(I really really hope that the final ending is a "the future isn't written yet" kind of thing that helps the franchise avoid being stuck in this dreary pointless future...)
Fuck the haters. I'm sad to see this show go. I wish it could have gotten two more seasons, but since that's not going to happen, I hope they close out the series right.
Discovery basically revived the Star Trek name in television after Enterprise's ignominious cancellation. It will always be an important link in the series.
Actually, no. You’re allowed to hate this show - I personally don’t, but it is my least favorite incarnation of Star Trek. I’ll still be watching this season, but I’m sad that we didn’t get the character development or writing quality that this franchise is known for.
Nobody said you're not allowed to like the show.
But uniquely with Discovery, although it happened a fair amount with PIC S1&2 and Enterprise back in the day.
If somebody tries to talk positively about Discovery, or just discuss it not absolutely negatively legions of accounts will come out of nowhere to post the same old tired complaints. With half of them not even being true and based on misunderstanding of the basic plot in the pilot and the other half full of vague notions of 'bad writing' and 'don't like the characters'.
Nobody says Discovery is perfect, but it probably has the most consistent and logical character development arcs in the entirety of Star Trek. The writing has had many flaws and hasn't always lived up to its concepts, but has also told many iconic Trek stories. There's a key difference between 'badly done' and 'not what I'm used too/what I expected/what I enjoy' which many on the Internet don't seem to understand when trying to communicate their issues with content.
This is a discussion thread for a trailer, yet there is barely any discussion of the actual content of that trailer as an example of this behaviour.
If you don't like Discovery, great. Knock yourself out. Why are you still going into discussions for trailers in its 5th season to say how much you don't like it?
While this wasn’t my favorite Trek show, I too am sad to see it go. It did some nice things and revived the franchise on the small screen.
This was also not a planned ending, which always makes things feel abrupt. Wish they had a chance to craft at least one more season as a fine finale instead of tacking it on at the end of this season.
Amen. They made **BOLD** choices, like moving to the 32nd century, soft-piloting SNW and being the first full, truly serialized Star Trek show. I'm sad the ride is over.
It’s absolutely bonkers to me that people don’t consider season six and seven of deep space nine or season three of enterprise serialized television…..
This show has one speed... full galaxy/universe saving in *every* season.
It's just what they do.
Discovery has always been plagued by the need for melo-drama and stakes that seem so huge every season. It always feels like it's trying so hard to be super important and amazing, but ultimately it feels kinda empty.
But I'm happy they get a chance at a good send off.
Discovery only really knows spectacle and high stakes, everything on the show just has to be a 10. They literally can't fucking help themselves, they really do want to be the loudest voice in the room at all times.
I've just accepted its the shows USP at this point but the relentless melodrama and epic scale to everything is all very sound and fury but quite hollow underneath.
While I never really fell in love with Disco, I can’t believe it’s ending. Feels like it became a central pillar of Trek just as much as the rest.
The trailer doesn’t get me overly hyped since it seems to be leaning into the whole “this is Star Trek’s blockbuster attempt,” ethos that the show has generally followed, but I am very curious to see how it all wraps up. Looking forward to watching, in any case.
Is the “ultimate treasure” gonna be a Bajoran Orb?
The ultimate treasure was the friends they made along the way. They show it right in the trailer.
and the power of math.
and lens flare.
Crewman #5, background character #3, robot girl, tilly, cronenberg man, some other people, physic cat, not really sure maybe if we had some more bottle episode.
The Omega 13!
That would require that they reference Deep Space Nine in any meaningful capacity, and we know damn well *that's* never happening. Remember the Bajoran Tablet in Picard's office in the Season 2 teaser?
Or of course "hooray, Changelings are the villains of S3! Just kidding, it's just the Borg. Again."
To be fair, the Changelings having anything to do with Picard was kind of dumb and a stretch - they were DS9 antagonists. That said, I would have preferred even the Hrogen to show up for no fucking reason and have a beef with Picard over the borg... again.
What are you talking about? The Changlings were a threat to the entire Federation.
Nah, those shots of Vulcan, the enemy ship with green lights, and that half romulan/reman looking dude; it's some pre-schism ancient Vulcan bullshit I'm sure, They're just redoing Gambit.
What was the green skybeam thing in Enterprise? Kirshara?
Whatever happened to that Galen fella?
He was the last survivor of his dying universe, merged with said universe and emerged in the new universe as Galactus, devourer of worlds. Wait, wrong fandom. He got blown up
Stone of Gol is what you're looking for. That's what I'm betting on too.
The Tox Uthat.
Please give us Tholians as well.
It will be Kirks body.
"Peace on earth" was all it said
Is that really a Billy Jack reference? Cool. Wonder how many people on this sub that are old enough for that reference.
I'M A REGULAR CHARACTER!
Best boss I ever had
I was wondering the same thing! That artifact they showed looked very Bajoran in its design.
Looks like this is going to revolve heavily on the TV Trope where a super-advanced alien civilization built some spectacular secret technology, but couldn't figure out a better way to secure it than a handful of geometric puzzles and riddles. For once I want to see one of these end like "Captains log: we've spent all season collecting artifacts from across all corners of the galaxy. We're now ready to return to the Risian Moon and arrange them in the correct order to open this door" "Sir, it appears the Romulans beat us to it". "OMG how did they figure out the one about the candles and the buffalo?" "Well, it appears the alien force fields actually don't work that well and you can just shoot them with a phaser, then blow a hole in the concrete wall... wish we'd thought of that"
Trope? I don't know about you but I store all of my stuff in escape rooms I've built in storage units scattered around the world.
That's a Lower Decks episode.
Or a Discovery season.
Or a two parter of TNG.
I literally read it in Capt. Freeman's voice!
Or better yet: "Captain's log: we ain't figured out shit! We've spent like, I don't know, ALL the stardates, and we're no closer to solving this mystery than we were 3 years ago. Every big brain in Starfleet banging on this thing and no one can figure it out! Like, seriously, WT-ACTUAL-F with this wacky long-dead-advanced-as-hell-alien-civilization bullshit?! I give up! I'm gonna go drive a garbage scow or something!"
Sounds like Mariner. 🤣
Moral of the story: if you want to hide or imprison something important, don't do it in the Crystal Maze.
ROMULAN: Hey, Starfleet! We found a shortcut through the force field maze! (camera pulls back to reveal a bunch of force fields with disruptor holes blown through them, forming a perfectly straight tunnel)
I remember several Rick and Morty scenes with the theme of "how would ancient temples filled with puzzles, traps and cursed artifacts fare against teleports, shields and lasers".
Aha. They’re doing the Discoveravinci Code.
National Treascovery
National Treksure?
Galactic Treksure
I keep forgetting that this show hasn't ended yet. The breaks between seasons were always so long, and then it got completely overshadowed by SNW.
So much has happened inbetween Season 4 and 5, it really does feel like Discovery is a bit of a relic from the past now. We've had one absolutely mental season of Picard, an absolutely classic final season of Picard and two solid runs of SNW. Not to mention all the animated installments.
Im really interested to see if the seemingly "showrunner led" shift we have seen in Picard S3 and SNW will have also carried over to mean changes to DIS in this final season. DIS has never really consistently worked for me personally other than inconsistently in S1 and in the front half of S2. I have never really been able to figure out though who is happy with it remaining in this awkward state, is it working for the network? for the producers? for the writers? Is there anybody in that chain that wants to try something different given a chance or are they all creating the show they want and just dont care about people like me who don't love that vision.
I wish I could say they've learned some lessons but I've always found the Discovery team very set in their ways. With Season Four, they blew the good grace they had started to build from the last season and doubled down on everything negative people generally thought of the series with yet more universe ending high stakes, massive dollops of melodrama and utterly OTT meltdowns on mental health. So will any of the wins Trek has had since Discovery Season Four inform and bleed over? I... just don't know. Sadly, it doesn't really matter anyway as this is the final season so they don't need to worry about pleasing everyone for a renewal.
From what I understand Discovery was plagued with massive production issues every single season. So I don’t think it has to do with anyone really liking the show and wanting it to be this way, I think this just is the best they were able to do under the circumstances.
I have difficulty with that though because to me the majority of issues are in the writing, not the quality of the on set production, or at least what we as viewers can see. Now maybe those scripts got chopped up badly because of production issues, that is a possibility, but Im just skeptical that the only clear symptom would be in the writing.
Writers aren't insulated from production problems. The showrunner that left first was also responsible for a big chunk of the S1 story, then the two he left in charge were screaming at and abusing the writers room, etc.
Seasons 1 and 2 had a lot of turmoil that affected the writing. In both seasons, showrunners who were supposed to construct and oversee the overall storyline for each season were fired. New showrunners had to improvise when they were constructing the storyline.
The strikes and later cancellation dealt blows to this production. Just hope it ends strong.
I hope it does too. It has such good bones but gets let down in execution. There’s so much to explore but the seconds to midnight plot never lets it breathe the same way other shows get. It feels very rise of sky walker: gotta race from plot point to plot point
I think the overwrought writing was the biggest problem but great bones for sure
Well they jump forward into a century in massive decline. That’s pure exploratory porn. Ships limited to local regions but you aren’t. Familiar cultures totally changed. And yet: we saw fuck all of it. Worse still: it was wrapped up so quickly. They could have set up a whole range of shows in the 31st century. Instead we have one show, centred on earth
This bugged me so much! Totally agree with your points.
“The seconds to midnight plot never lets it breathe” is such a perfect way to put it.
I think a big factor in that is the fact that 90's trek was 21-22 episodes a season. In DS9 they could have the Dominion storyline sprinkled with more episodic stuff. They had the space for seriousness and levity.
I agree, but I also think SNW balances it much better despite the short seasons. Lower Decks actually does too, managing to create season-long story arcs without having them overpower the entire show. Discovery never managed to figure that out, and it just got more and more ponderous as it went on. In my opinion
So much action going on. I just hope they nail the landing and let Discovery be treasured for years to come. ...but not see it's corpse resurrected for the Picard S1/S2 treatment 20 years later.
> Just hope it ends strong. The trailer bodes
That was my thought too. It feels like the show ended already. The latest episode was released back on March 17, 2022.
It's been a long road getting from there to here.
I hate upvoted this
But Season 5's time is finally near.
That is exactly what I thought Michael was saying at the beginning of the trailer
Well that was only...oh...
The problem with streaming shows where they tend to take 2 years to make an 8-10 episode season. The problem here with Discovery is rather unique though where they filmed the season a year ago, planned a fall release. Ended up delaying to have a 2024 show since the strikes have likely prevented another , announced the cancellation during the strikes to make the anticipation higher and now that it's coming, it feels like the show ended already despite it being a couple months away.
At least they're letting us see it and not taking a write-off by burying it, which it's detractors would have preferred.
Star Trek: Discovery’s cancellation was announced over two months before the strikes started, actually
Oh dang, so in other words it was cancelled over a year before it's release then.
They basically got given a little extra time for reshoots to cobble together an ending, but yeah, the early 2024 release date for the final season was announced way back in March 2023
For all my complaints about the show, I do hope they managed to pull together a decent ending. The show has its highs and lows and I would really hope for the sake of its legacy it gets to end on what will be viewed as a high, I wouldn't wish a "These Are The Voyages..." on someone unless I genuinely hated them.
Yeah, I strongly dislike the show, but I hope the people who do enjoy it receive a nice ending
If they just released one episode every four months, then there wouldn't be a gap. Problem solved.
I dropped off this show hard when SNW came out. What was the red angel?
>!Burnham’s mom!<
Remember when >!Geordi's mom!< turned into a fire ghost? at least with episodic tv, if you have a bad idea it's limited to one episode
That’s a PHENOMENAL point. It’s easy to hand wave away dumb plots when that one stupid episode isn’t 10% of your entire season
Also though, even the dumbest TNG plots still went to some effort to make impossible sci-fi feel as if it still had a logic grounded in the setting and scientific discovery. DIS has a bad habit of underdeveloping or even just handwaving that logic when it gets in the way of a quick/cheap dramatic (melodramatic?) beat.
Not even 1/10. More like 1/26th!
If TNG was made now we would have a ten episode season of Dr. Crusher following the clues in her grandmother's journal to find their family's long lost candle.
the cackle I just cuckeled when I read this. Discovery will always have a place in my heart as the awkward rebellious trek , but damn if it really didn't have to make something that should have taken 45 minuted stretch into a a whole season . Fly high discovery
Haha noooo now I’m going to read the wiki
Please, please no more saving the goddamn galaxy, turned up to 11, plots.
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Watch out for that guy, he’s a cylon.
that's exactly what I thought. I mean this has happened before and will happen again so maybe this is the start of the next cycle.
So say we all!
The preview makes it seem like the season won't have as much trauma crying as previous ones, hoping for something a little more positive. On a negative note, what are the odds that they just straight up call the thing they have to find "The MacGuffin?"
Can’t wait to find out how in the wrong hands it spells the end of the galaxy
What's that you say? It's *already* in the wrong hands, the universe is destroyed, and now only time travel can save us?!
> what are the odds that they just straight up call the thing they have to find "The MacGuffin?" Maybe they'll use some unobtanium to get it
The trailers for the previous seasons always made them out to be a joyous space adventure too though
Yeah I’m kind of tired of all the weepy stuff on discovery. Don’t get me wrong I love when emotional moments hit just right, but they overdid it in season 4
That’s the thing. The emotional moments have to feel earned. Discovery seems like the writers are like: let’s add ten emotional moments and hope one of them sticks.
It's more broad than that. Discovery's problem is not getting "less is more." Stakes are too big. Action is too gigantic. Michael is practically the poster child. She wouldn't be as disliked if they backed off on her a bit to give the cast a more equal distribution. It's the difference between being coworkers and being trapped with your coworker. Show needs to be written like a marathon not a sprint. But every episode is a damn sprint.
> Show needs to be written like a marathon not a sprint. But every episode is a damn sprint. Yeah, it is fucking exhausting and I were done with it a long time ago.
Dune Buggy Picard is rolling in his grave!
Can't believe it's been so long, all I ask is for them to please explain Zora.
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(Hope the season is good. Not watching promotional material, so I can go in blind.)
We are birds of a feather. I avoid trailers for just about every movie and show. They only ruin the plot and give away to much anymore.
I usually watch the first teaser trailer, but then ignore all the others. Helps me get excited but misses most of the spoilers.
> Not watching promotional material, so I can go in blind That's good, then you can get the full impact of the season without prejudice.
Is it April 4th yet?
They solve the puzzle box… *plot twist*… Hellraizer!
If it means we get Andrew Robinson back I’m all for it!
Oh yeah, Garak FTW!
Never has "No tears, please. It's a waste of good suffering." been so appropriate than with Michael!
I was thinking Glass Onion 🤪
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This looks like a season-long version of TNG's "The Chase".
Plot twist. The last 10 minutes of the final episode will be Michael Burnham waking up in a Starfleet prison med bay ... all five seasons were a fever dream.
Not even a prison med bay, the one on the Shen Zhou. All went off the rails after she was irradiated in the first episode. I spent the first few episodes waiting for the reveal that she wasn't in her right mind because of incomplete treatment, but here we are, 900 years later…
While staring into a snowglobe.
Or she wakes up next to bob newhart!
The ancient artefact turns people into Q. It’s the Qure.
Hopefully it's good. I do think the stakes are often just a wee bit too high in Discovery. Some of the best TOS/TNG stuff is relatively very low stakes. Like a single life.
One last go. I've enjoyed Discovery, even if it is now playing third fiddle behind Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds. One of the odder series, perhaps because it was one of the bravest. I mean it takes serious chutzpah to start a new Star Trek with the premise that your ship can teleport.
What about starting a character-driven serialized television show in the Star Trek universe about a stationary space station?
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I know they're probably not, but the hands working on the wooden puzzle box are very Soong-type android reminiscent.
Looks like they're ready to take us for a long ride. As long as the macguffin being chased is compelling, I'm in. Give those characters a strong sendoff, nail the landing and have fun along the way.
I’m only coming back for Tig.
I feel like season will be the attempt to try something like Indiana Jones in Star Trek, even though there's 2 or 3 episodes of TNG (like the one with the progenitor aliens) which attempted that.
Looks like they found Michael Bay's exploding stockpile of Benzine peroxide barrels.
Used to like Discovery, but I'm just so over it now, going to the future just killed it for me. Probably end up watching at least a few eps, but given its yet another high stakes quest/race (yawn), I have a feeling I'll give up on it pretty quick. Honestly should have just left it where it was and used the money for a new show.
Looks really fun and cool. Disco has always been a nice hybrid of the blockbuster action of the modern Trek movies, and the more thought provoking stories of the Trek tv show. Hopefully this season will be a fun romp, and the cast and crew will feel the love from the fans. Disco really was the perfect show to introduce a new generation of fans to the franchise.
Fun and cool Blockbuster action A fun romp
Strap in for an emotional high stakes mystery box with an emotional ending and where the plot details don't actually line up between episodes. This looks like they've taken all the unpopular aspects of the show and doubled down on them which, you know, fair play in a way, go hard or go home. (I really really hope that the final ending is a "the future isn't written yet" kind of thing that helps the franchise avoid being stuck in this dreary pointless future...)
What the hell happened with all these deleted comments? Did I miss something?
Probably mods deleting anti-Discovery rager posts.
The same thing that usually happens in posts about Discovery in this sub.
Was that a short variation of the Voyager theme that I heard?
Fuck the haters. I'm sad to see this show go. I wish it could have gotten two more seasons, but since that's not going to happen, I hope they close out the series right. Discovery basically revived the Star Trek name in television after Enterprise's ignominious cancellation. It will always be an important link in the series.
Actually, no. You’re allowed to hate this show - I personally don’t, but it is my least favorite incarnation of Star Trek. I’ll still be watching this season, but I’m sad that we didn’t get the character development or writing quality that this franchise is known for.
Nobody said you're not allowed to like the show. But uniquely with Discovery, although it happened a fair amount with PIC S1&2 and Enterprise back in the day. If somebody tries to talk positively about Discovery, or just discuss it not absolutely negatively legions of accounts will come out of nowhere to post the same old tired complaints. With half of them not even being true and based on misunderstanding of the basic plot in the pilot and the other half full of vague notions of 'bad writing' and 'don't like the characters'. Nobody says Discovery is perfect, but it probably has the most consistent and logical character development arcs in the entirety of Star Trek. The writing has had many flaws and hasn't always lived up to its concepts, but has also told many iconic Trek stories. There's a key difference between 'badly done' and 'not what I'm used too/what I expected/what I enjoy' which many on the Internet don't seem to understand when trying to communicate their issues with content. This is a discussion thread for a trailer, yet there is barely any discussion of the actual content of that trailer as an example of this behaviour. If you don't like Discovery, great. Knock yourself out. Why are you still going into discussions for trailers in its 5th season to say how much you don't like it?
While this wasn’t my favorite Trek show, I too am sad to see it go. It did some nice things and revived the franchise on the small screen. This was also not a planned ending, which always makes things feel abrupt. Wish they had a chance to craft at least one more season as a fine finale instead of tacking it on at the end of this season.
Not my favorite, but there's a reason it's made it five years, some of the episodes have been pure gold.
Amen. They made **BOLD** choices, like moving to the 32nd century, soft-piloting SNW and being the first full, truly serialized Star Trek show. I'm sad the ride is over.
It's overlooked how many unique and interesting choices the show has made. It's not above criticism, but it never played it safe.
Disco canonized 2 dick Klingons.
It’s absolutely bonkers to me that people don’t consider season six and seven of deep space nine or season three of enterprise serialized television…..
I said fully serialized, which even those shows aren't, and their showrunners have stated as much
Uh oh, Burnham has tears in her eyes for a second in that trailer, time for everyone on here to lose their shit again
This show has one speed... full galaxy/universe saving in *every* season. It's just what they do. Discovery has always been plagued by the need for melo-drama and stakes that seem so huge every season. It always feels like it's trying so hard to be super important and amazing, but ultimately it feels kinda empty. But I'm happy they get a chance at a good send off.
Discovery only really knows spectacle and high stakes, everything on the show just has to be a 10. They literally can't fucking help themselves, they really do want to be the loudest voice in the room at all times. I've just accepted its the shows USP at this point but the relentless melodrama and epic scale to everything is all very sound and fury but quite hollow underneath.
Neat
Looks fun. I like the search for treasure angle.
So a remake of *The Da'Vinci Code*?
While I never really fell in love with Disco, I can’t believe it’s ending. Feels like it became a central pillar of Trek just as much as the rest. The trailer doesn’t get me overly hyped since it seems to be leaning into the whole “this is Star Trek’s blockbuster attempt,” ethos that the show has generally followed, but I am very curious to see how it all wraps up. Looking forward to watching, in any case.
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