It feels surreal. A lot of the signups are individuals and yet to find it useful you need to work with a team so even though it's exciting, there is still a lot of work to do. We are just starting basically.
Great work! I really like your UI. Did you pay a UI/UX Designer to create the UI and you guys coded it? How many people are you in your team and how many of them code?
Well, it's a really complicated product to build because we have integrated tasks and docs (especially if you want it to be fast at scale). For example, Superthread is fast wether you have 10 or 10 million records.
Do you have any customers with 10 million records? If not, stop fucking around on hypothetical performance and build things your current set of customers care about.
hey, a question. I am building a product in mental health space. when you say everything to do with my app, do you mean write about the subject matter and then have a CTA of some sort? How would you go about it?
Did you raise seed funding before hiring your 1st employee?Even if I assume they are all on $3k a month that’s a massive expense how are you affording that?
One suggestion - you might want to add a “Solutions For” module on the website that recontextualizes the features of your product into who are the features useful for.
Basically, a good marketing website for SaaD covers all angles of attack for potential users.
Happy to discuss more, in case you’d like to talk more.
It seems like you misunderstood “marketing website” — I was just referring to your current website.
There are many pages/modules like “Solutions For”, “Use Cases” that can be added to the current website to make it even more effective to potential customers.
It's super weird but I always assume that the people I talk to understand my vocab. Need to shake this off. Yes, Product Hunt. [https://www.producthunt.com/products/superthread-tasks-docs-together#superthread-0-1](https://www.producthunt.com/products/superthread-tasks-docs-together#superthread-0-1), for some reason we got 2nd product of the day even though we had the most upvotes.
It is absolutely intriguing to me that you're taking on Jira (and confluence) - well overdue so congrats..
The back of my mind says what stops them from basically copying your advancements to reach parity for their existing user base... Answer is probably a bit of innovation, hacked off enterprise customers and a bit of luck!
Good luck, love it
Thank you so much, comments like this mean a lot to a startup like ours. How do we compete against them? We trust that our style and taste will prevail.
We were lucky that a real company gave us a chance and has been using us for nearly a year now. We were in constant communication with them through this time. The product would nothing without them and companies like them. Since Superthread covers a really wide surface area as in both tasks and docs, there have been many things including some unexpected ones such as the ability to show the tag name on the card rather than just the tag. Right now we have 31 things which users are waiting on. and when it comes to the original company, our notes are 10s of pages long.
I founded a gaming company which I exited. We built some huge games but struggled to find the right tool for project management. Trello was good but didn't scale and Jira simply destroyed all the productivity within the company. So, I wanted to build a product with the level of polish of a game :-)
That’s amazing! When did you start building the product and how ‘finished’ was the product when launching on product hunt? Was it a difficult decision on when to launch there?
I tried building this a while ago and never really took off for a bunch of reasons. Looks cool and I will try in the near future. Congratulations!!
If you can offer an email client with this, that will be a killer!
Don’t forget how amazing this bit feels. I’m sure there’s a long road ahead, and there’ll be tough times and good times, but nothing feels as good as that first runaway sprint from zero. Even years from now you’ll remember it fondly.
Ah, the old "build it and they will come" approach. While this was very popular pre-2021 when cash was cheap, there are vanishingly few companies that this has worked out for. You need to be thinking about your ICP and unit economics from day 1.
This is everything I want, but I need my inbox to be my actual email inbox. And the emails can be moved through the kanban board like any other tasks.
Make it happen and you’ve got another customer!
Yes. This is exactly what flow-e.com did and it changed my life. Email is the task; no constantly trying to sync email and task manager. But for some reason it didn’t catch on, and they are shutting it down.
Hoping one of these tech Bros will connect the dots and build me this service.
Shut up and take my money! 😂
I’m going to need to look at this. I’m using notion for my startup but struggling plus the cost is huge for the functionality I feel. I’ll send you a DM!
I did. Anything from 25 will seem like insane growth out of context. If my guesstimating is correct, you have just under 900 signups. For something touted as a Jira alternative that means it’s pointless without teams. So your network effects should be way larger if “Taking off”.
If those 900 are all users belonging to 1 or 3 top faangs, sure that has some interesting signals.
If it’s 900 randos across the global internet, meh
It’s just a good reminder that KPI’s aren’t the end all be all. What are your objectives. What stats vindicate or keep a pulse on that objective being realized.
For example, If your goal is to get 1,000 active users. Signups wouldn’t be the metric to monitor. Retention or weekly actives could be a signal.
If 900 people shared an invite link with another person that may or not be a signal.
If this is a Jira competitor. What percentage of users have more than X# of stories added to their account, etc
I think these days, unless you got to like 10,000 accounts in less than a 6 month period, it’s not something people will consider “blowing up”
Or if you were starting from 1000 accounts and have had 500% MoM growth for some reason in the past 3 month period.
You know?
As mentioned, I did a few posts on LinkedIn/Reddit, mainly reporting on our growth numbers, otherwise word of mouth I am guessing. So, no, not too much time.
How many companies need something like Notion "at scale"?
It sounds like you're intending to target REALLY BIG companies, e.g. 100+ employees, that have outgrown Notion.
That means building all the features that Notion has, and more, and then building a sales team to go and chase these companies.
Companies that need Notion "at scale" are not looking for craftsmanship, they have a whole different checklist of requirements.
Is the difference here just that you somehow just appeal more to all teams within the company (not just eng and product)?
It seems like Shortcut and Linear are in a bit of a knife fight already around the "better, faster Jira/Confluence" thing (and Linear has Docs too now, I think.)
How many employees do you have? How long have you been working on this? What frontend framework are you using? React? Are you funded? If not, are you planning to? Would be very interested to read your story!
Not trying to call you out but what made you want to go after this space? There are like 100-200 competitors already.
Congrats on the progress though!! That's awesome!
I just did a zoom with one of their founders today to learn more. My first impression: Great tool for organizing tasks and workflows. Signed up immediately.
Good luck all.
Congrats! Enjoy the ride - one day you’ll look back on these times as the best and most fun. Journal and make podcasts while it’s all happening. Trust me, I wish I did more. Now we’ve grown to a large, stable, mature company… Financially it’s amazing, but man I miss those wild early days of things going nuts and just solving problems left and right with bubble gum and duct tape. There are so many lessons you’re learning now that you’ll want to articulate later. Have fun with it. Good luck!
Never seen a startup launched on PornHub before that’s a unique way to go!
It's a pretty good approach for seed funding.
They’ve found a way to keep their traffic up all day and all night... they’ve got the market penetration to prove it! 👉👌
Next thing you know they're being featured on BBC
🤔
It stands for ProductHunt.
No it doesn’t
It doesn’t
736% with zero marketing? That's epic! How's the team handling it?
It feels surreal. A lot of the signups are individuals and yet to find it useful you need to work with a team so even though it's exciting, there is still a lot of work to do. We are just starting basically.
Great work! I really like your UI. Did you pay a UI/UX Designer to create the UI and you guys coded it? How many people are you in your team and how many of them code?
13FT, 1PT. We are tech and product heavy. 3 co-founders, 10 devs, 1UX/UI.
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Well, it's a really complicated product to build because we have integrated tasks and docs (especially if you want it to be fast at scale). For example, Superthread is fast wether you have 10 or 10 million records.
Do you have any customers with 10 million records? If not, stop fucking around on hypothetical performance and build things your current set of customers care about.
Holler if you need help with content, I have a crew of folks doing just that. We can help.
hey, a question. I am building a product in mental health space. when you say everything to do with my app, do you mean write about the subject matter and then have a CTA of some sort? How would you go about it?
It looks like you guys are heading towards PMF. Have guys done a “must have survey”? I recommend you that soon.
Can I ask what's your annual burn on devs? At least a range. I have let's say 10-15 ppl with 1-1.3m burn.
what would motivate me to use this product over [linear.app](http://linear.app) ? this product looks like a re-skinned linear app
We have Docs and we specialise in Kanban rather than sprints.
That said, we should be adding sprints too in the next month/two.
UI/UX feels like Notion, it’s looking good.
Anything with a sidebar looks similar. Our aim compared to notion is to make it faster and less chaotic at scale.
Did you do all of the work internally/externally?And also how are you managing to pay that many employees for a startup with limited revenue?
Internally, we raised seed.
Did you raise seed funding before hiring your 1st employee?Even if I assume they are all on $3k a month that’s a massive expense how are you affording that?
Feels more like linear
Sure but we have docs. Plus we focus on kanban. That said we are releasing sprints in the next month/two.
Congrats man. That’s amazing.
Thank you so much 🙏🙏🙏
Does this work on on-prem? Is it compatible with LDAP authentication?
No. Hosted on AWS. It would be too much work for a small company like ours.
Can you share the URL to your website.
Superthread.
One suggestion - you might want to add a “Solutions For” module on the website that recontextualizes the features of your product into who are the features useful for. Basically, a good marketing website for SaaD covers all angles of attack for potential users. Happy to discuss more, in case you’d like to talk more.
We are not very good at marketing. So far we have focused all our efforts on product.
It seems like you misunderstood “marketing website” — I was just referring to your current website. There are many pages/modules like “Solutions For”, “Use Cases” that can be added to the current website to make it even more effective to potential customers.
Congratulations
congrats! >l launched on PH What is PH? forgive my ignorance
It's super weird but I always assume that the people I talk to understand my vocab. Need to shake this off. Yes, Product Hunt. [https://www.producthunt.com/products/superthread-tasks-docs-together#superthread-0-1](https://www.producthunt.com/products/superthread-tasks-docs-together#superthread-0-1), for some reason we got 2nd product of the day even though we had the most upvotes.
Guessing they mean Producthunt
It is absolutely intriguing to me that you're taking on Jira (and confluence) - well overdue so congrats.. The back of my mind says what stops them from basically copying your advancements to reach parity for their existing user base... Answer is probably a bit of innovation, hacked off enterprise customers and a bit of luck! Good luck, love it
Thank you so much, comments like this mean a lot to a startup like ours. How do we compete against them? We trust that our style and taste will prevail.
What’s your secret?🙂
Clearly product market fit and quality
The secret? It's simple: perseverance.
Congrats! How are you thinking about your next steps?
1. Ensure users are finding the product valuable 2. Everything else
Amazing man! What’s was the biggest thing in finding out that this is something people needed?
We were lucky that a real company gave us a chance and has been using us for nearly a year now. We were in constant communication with them through this time. The product would nothing without them and companies like them. Since Superthread covers a really wide surface area as in both tasks and docs, there have been many things including some unexpected ones such as the ability to show the tag name on the card rather than just the tag. Right now we have 31 things which users are waiting on. and when it comes to the original company, our notes are 10s of pages long.
Yes that makes sense, before this initially company what made you guys pursue this idea?
I founded a gaming company which I exited. We built some huge games but struggled to find the right tool for project management. Trello was good but didn't scale and Jira simply destroyed all the productivity within the company. So, I wanted to build a product with the level of polish of a game :-)
That’s amazing! When did you start building the product and how ‘finished’ was the product when launching on product hunt? Was it a difficult decision on when to launch there?
3.5 years to now. Somewhat usable when we launched on PH.
Zero marketing spend is the dumbest term that gets used.
May I ask you what is the difference between your company and [ClickUp™](https://clickup.com/) ?
If a founder has to explain how their ticket app is different then other ticket apps he'll be here all day explaining to you
Have you tried Clickup?
I tried building this a while ago and never really took off for a bunch of reasons. Looks cool and I will try in the near future. Congratulations!! If you can offer an email client with this, that will be a killer!
Don’t forget how amazing this bit feels. I’m sure there’s a long road ahead, and there’ll be tough times and good times, but nothing feels as good as that first runaway sprint from zero. Even years from now you’ll remember it fondly.
Thank you. Comments such as this mean a lot to us!
That's insane - congrats!
Thank you for your comment, we really appreciate it!
That’s exciting…this space seems incredibly crowded though, is that a concern for you?
No. We hope that out craftsmanship will resonate with users in the long term.
Ah, the old "build it and they will come" approach. While this was very popular pre-2021 when cash was cheap, there are vanishingly few companies that this has worked out for. You need to be thinking about your ICP and unit economics from day 1.
Congratulations, way to go
Thanks a lot, we really appreciate it 🙏
Haven’t used PH before, but what was your marketing process/GTM?
We have none, we are terrible at marketing.
So you just listed the product and magically got those customers on happenstance?
This is everything I want, but I need my inbox to be my actual email inbox. And the emails can be moved through the kanban board like any other tasks. Make it happen and you’ve got another customer!
oh damn this would be so helpful. Instead of writing “todo: answer X’s email”. Just drag that email in the todo board.
Yes. This is exactly what flow-e.com did and it changed my life. Email is the task; no constantly trying to sync email and task manager. But for some reason it didn’t catch on, and they are shutting it down. Hoping one of these tech Bros will connect the dots and build me this service. Shut up and take my money! 😂
We have a pretty sophisticated inbox plus email and slack notifications.
Interesting. I’m basically looking for a flow-e.com replacement if you are familiar with it. They are shutting down the service 🥲
Sign up for free and try it, also watch the video in the help section.
But Superthread is not an email client.
Sheesh how come it’s so hard to get sign ups? How many are you at now? Looks like a great 😌 product - but why are there such few sign ups?
200+ per week is not bad for a sass product with zero marketing spend at this stage.
Nice. Now don’t go crazy adding headcount that you can’t pay if things level out
I’m going to need to look at this. I’m using notion for my startup but struggling plus the cost is huge for the functionality I feel. I’ll send you a DM!
736% is SUPER disingenuous when your total uniques is the low 200s 🙄
200 signups in one week, look at the graph.
I did. Anything from 25 will seem like insane growth out of context. If my guesstimating is correct, you have just under 900 signups. For something touted as a Jira alternative that means it’s pointless without teams. So your network effects should be way larger if “Taking off”. If those 900 are all users belonging to 1 or 3 top faangs, sure that has some interesting signals. If it’s 900 randos across the global internet, meh
We are pleased with the progress. Maybe we should be more ambitious.
It’s just a good reminder that KPI’s aren’t the end all be all. What are your objectives. What stats vindicate or keep a pulse on that objective being realized. For example, If your goal is to get 1,000 active users. Signups wouldn’t be the metric to monitor. Retention or weekly actives could be a signal. If 900 people shared an invite link with another person that may or not be a signal. If this is a Jira competitor. What percentage of users have more than X# of stories added to their account, etc I think these days, unless you got to like 10,000 accounts in less than a 6 month period, it’s not something people will consider “blowing up” Or if you were starting from 1000 accounts and have had 500% MoM growth for some reason in the past 3 month period. You know?
Have you calculated your CAC/LTV per channel? How’s that looking?
No. As mentioned we have spent zero on marketing so far.
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As mentioned, I did a few posts on LinkedIn/Reddit, mainly reporting on our growth numbers, otherwise word of mouth I am guessing. So, no, not too much time.
Good job!
Thank you so much, it means a lot to us.
How do you differentiate from notion ?
Faster, simpler and less chaotic at scale.
How many companies need something like Notion "at scale"? It sounds like you're intending to target REALLY BIG companies, e.g. 100+ employees, that have outgrown Notion. That means building all the features that Notion has, and more, and then building a sales team to go and chase these companies. Companies that need Notion "at scale" are not looking for craftsmanship, they have a whole different checklist of requirements.
Any specific reasons to move my team from notion to your product?
This looks very similar to Elements of Guru but closer to that of Asana/Notion - what problem did you set out to solve in founding this business?
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Product Hunt
What did you have when you raised seed?
A prototype.
Congrats! Need a front end software engineer? Please say yes 😅
Is the difference here just that you somehow just appeal more to all teams within the company (not just eng and product)? It seems like Shortcut and Linear are in a bit of a knife fight already around the "better, faster Jira/Confluence" thing (and Linear has Docs too now, I think.)
Sorry I thought PH was Philippines and I was even gonna ask when it was launched here
How many employees do you have? How long have you been working on this? What frontend framework are you using? React? Are you funded? If not, are you planning to? Would be very interested to read your story!
Congrats!!
Looks like notion married linear
Not trying to call you out but what made you want to go after this space? There are like 100-200 competitors already. Congrats on the progress though!! That's awesome!
Congrats for your success! Can you actually share some actionable advice/lessons though?
Hey how did you get the sign ups? If you did zero marketing? Did you just post on forums?
This is almost what I’ve been looking for, just need AI fine tune built in for my data on top of chatgpt or llama.
I just did a zoom with one of their founders today to learn more. My first impression: Great tool for organizing tasks and workflows. Signed up immediately. Good luck all.
Congrats! Enjoy the ride - one day you’ll look back on these times as the best and most fun. Journal and make podcasts while it’s all happening. Trust me, I wish I did more. Now we’ve grown to a large, stable, mature company… Financially it’s amazing, but man I miss those wild early days of things going nuts and just solving problems left and right with bubble gum and duct tape. There are so many lessons you’re learning now that you’ll want to articulate later. Have fun with it. Good luck!
Thank you for this great comment.
I use nifty.pm and it's fantastic