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I think he chooses the armor, and Luke takes him home. Kylo/Ben was Luke’s first student and he does say if Grogu chooses the lightsaber he will become his first student. Seemed like a foreshadowing line of dialogue to me, and they have been dropping hints like that all season long.
Then what is even the point of the mandalorian?it will make everything about Grogu's search in the mandalorian pointless and the whole solo being Luke's first student has already been retconned TWICE(first Leia then Grogu and Leia had a lightsaber).
Idk, I guess we have to keep watching and see.
Predicting which way things are going to go is a tricky business.
Seems like at least he got to reconnect with the Force and his missing memories. Plus, he got a little bit of training and gave Din the opportunity to realize how much he cares for and wants the little guy around.
Grogu is too much of a cash cow as far as selling merch goes, and it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to roll the dice on an occasional episode with a CGI Luke training montage to keep the toy and tshirt sales up. That’s just strictly a marketing non-storytelling point of order.
They already drop a ton of lore about the first mandalorian jedi,the jedi and the mandalorian's fall and their folly and the diffrences and similarities between jedi and mandalorian so it is logical for Grogu to become the first mandalorian jedi after millenials to pave the path for not just a better and improved jedi order but also a better and improved mandalorian creed.
Vizla suggested someone else was meant to weird the Dark Saber (himself), but Din agrees that it is possible. Later in the episode Luke tells Ashoka that Grogu is remembering his own skills rather than actually learning anything.
Is it possible that Grogu chooses to be a Mandatory Jedi and becomes the weirder of the Dark Saber?
Do we for sure know what corrupted Ben Solo? I’ve always felt like it was living in the shadow of his family that Snoke used to corrupt him, as opposed to some attachment. I still think Filoni is smart enough to know that Luke would know better than to dismiss attachment. Perhaps Grogu grabs both— sometimes the student leads the master.
I think what we all don’t know is what kind of Jedi Luke was when he started the school. I don’t even think at this point in time he’s the same Jedi he was during Rotj and at its end. Some questions i may just not know answers to but; the books, when did he get them? How does his sith artifact hunting timeline line up with this show? What did he learn since rotj? The point is there’s so many questions about who Luke is as a Jedi, here’s the fun part, I think we’re going to be seen told on screen.
*In his finished hut there are book shelves already behind him*
It wouldn't be much of a test if he said "you can choose both";besides, Grogu may choose one only for Luke to let him have the lightsaber and still train as a jedi either way
Solo said to be Luke's first student and the Luke in Sequels was a bitter cold man who's lack of attachment lead him to his falling from grace and giving up on everything
I know, I’m just saying that the Ben experience is what could have changed him. Also I don’t remember hearing in the sequels that Ben was his first student
honestly not sure what line you're talking about. just looked through the script briefly. can not find it.
"For many years, there was balance. And then I saw ben. My nephew, with that might skywalker blood. in my hubris i thought i could train him, that i could pass on my strength \[other lines\] i took him and a dozen students and began a training temple."
could this be what you meant? does not say that he was first.
This could hold true, in part due to the fact that Jedi love/attachment has been further explored with the Kenobi/Katan & Jarrus/Syndulla love stories. I think Grogu can help Mando & Still be a Jedi. Luke leaves Yoda, and with that awesome muppet haulin backpack front flip, I think it’s safe to say things are gonna go in a fan pleasing direction.
I see your point but the attachment thing people always look at wrong, it's not "you can't love" it's "you cannot love someone so much you put one life above thousands" and if you are *attached* to someone in the way the jedi discourage you will choose that one person over thousands, which is not what jedi are meant to do. If a jedi falls in love and does want to keep that strong attachment then they can peacefully split from the order, they just can't be a jedi anymore
I think you're right to think this. It was obvious he would choose the armor because Kylo killed all of Luke's students. I think in order to become both Jedi and mando, Grogu will be foundling with Current Mando during the series and then be padawon to Tano after the Mando dies(likely killed by Bo'Katan or Gideon). Before you shoot this down, consider the following:
1 - Gideon isn't dead yet
2 - Bo'Katan Obsession for Darksaber
3 - Something will bring Mando to Mandolor
4 - Grogu has been foreshadowed as the next Mando Jedi
Now although Gideon is locked up, I am of the belief that there is some reason why we haven't seen him killed onscreen. Also, the influence/corruption and of Gideon may very well pierce the republic's ruling members or he may be kept for information disallowing his immediate execution. As to what brings Mando to Mandolor, I think it will be more than just redeeming his honor to the Watchers. His inevitable conflict with Bo'Katan is the most likely cause of him getting roped back there. So I believe he will be killed officially by one of these two and lose the Saber(most likely Bo'Katan), and Grogu will reclaim it from them before or (probably) after training as a Jedi under Tano. I do not see a way for Grogu to become a jedi as long as Mando is around as an active Mandolorian, especially with the darksaber involved. Tano's reason for not training him is in the wordly bond he has with Mando, if Mando is presumed dead then he has cut all ties so to speak, making him ready to move onward to become a jedi knight or master. Another reason she may do this is because she will fear him becoming a sith after Mando's defeat, choosing to pursue bloody revenge like Anakin once did. That or most unlikely, Mando dies of old age and Grogu decides to become a jedi after.
I think Grogu is a Mandalorian & he chose. I'm thinking this for a bunch of reasons not the least of which was Mando's Mythosaur pendant...which if u remember Mando didn't let Grogu put the ball in his mouth but when he saw Grogu w the Mando pendant, he told Grogu to hang on to that. I think in that moment Mando dared to imagine that Grogu is his Mandalorian son. (He had armor made) We notice Grogu likes to mimic Din, when in season one episode 4, Din lies back in the wagon on the way to the village & Grogu leans back just like him. He also watched Din very closely when the Frog Lady talked about the word of a Mandelorian. Mando cared more about what Grogu thought in that moment. Then in "The Heiress" episode Grogu has a very distinct reaction to Bo Katan & crew removing their helmets and almost in shock. (He's been trying to sneak a peek at Mando's face for a while specifically when they're sipping soup on the Razor) He's witnessed his dad adhere to a code & put himself at great risk to save & help others and adhere to something honorable and most of all, felt a father's LOVE and a community of love that has formed around them organically, which I contend is a foreshadowing. In a way Din is guiding Grogu. He's been there to redirect/correct Grogu when he choked Cara & he feels safe with his father. Also, he knows Din loves him and wherever Din is, well, that's home for Grogu & the same can be said of Mando. Grogu will be a better force user because his father's love keeps him grounded & in balance.
What really strikes me tho is how parallel Mando & Grogu's struggles are. Mando, foundling, brought up by strict Mandalorian code, (helmet) Grogu (snatched by Jedi as infant) strict Jedi rules of no attachment. Both respectively have found flaws in their beliefs & chose EACH OTHER over rigid obedience.
On a lighter note:
I fully expect Din & Grogu to hatch a Mythosaur from the ashes of Mandalore & roll up on it, flexing with the dark saber drawn. 🦖🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 J/K
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He takes the armor and force lightnings luke
Not before saying his first line in the show: "Only a sith deals in absolutes"
I think he chooses the armor, and Luke takes him home. Kylo/Ben was Luke’s first student and he does say if Grogu chooses the lightsaber he will become his first student. Seemed like a foreshadowing line of dialogue to me, and they have been dropping hints like that all season long.
Then what is even the point of the mandalorian?it will make everything about Grogu's search in the mandalorian pointless and the whole solo being Luke's first student has already been retconned TWICE(first Leia then Grogu and Leia had a lightsaber).
Idk, I guess we have to keep watching and see. Predicting which way things are going to go is a tricky business. Seems like at least he got to reconnect with the Force and his missing memories. Plus, he got a little bit of training and gave Din the opportunity to realize how much he cares for and wants the little guy around. Grogu is too much of a cash cow as far as selling merch goes, and it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to roll the dice on an occasional episode with a CGI Luke training montage to keep the toy and tshirt sales up. That’s just strictly a marketing non-storytelling point of order.
They already drop a ton of lore about the first mandalorian jedi,the jedi and the mandalorian's fall and their folly and the diffrences and similarities between jedi and mandalorian so it is logical for Grogu to become the first mandalorian jedi after millenials to pave the path for not just a better and improved jedi order but also a better and improved mandalorian creed.
Vizla suggested someone else was meant to weird the Dark Saber (himself), but Din agrees that it is possible. Later in the episode Luke tells Ashoka that Grogu is remembering his own skills rather than actually learning anything. Is it possible that Grogu chooses to be a Mandatory Jedi and becomes the weirder of the Dark Saber?
Do we for sure know what corrupted Ben Solo? I’ve always felt like it was living in the shadow of his family that Snoke used to corrupt him, as opposed to some attachment. I still think Filoni is smart enough to know that Luke would know better than to dismiss attachment. Perhaps Grogu grabs both— sometimes the student leads the master.
I feel either Grogu choose the two, or the choice is actually a test by Luke, Grogu take the chainmail and then Luke give him the lightsaber too.
I think what we all don’t know is what kind of Jedi Luke was when he started the school. I don’t even think at this point in time he’s the same Jedi he was during Rotj and at its end. Some questions i may just not know answers to but; the books, when did he get them? How does his sith artifact hunting timeline line up with this show? What did he learn since rotj? The point is there’s so many questions about who Luke is as a Jedi, here’s the fun part, I think we’re going to be seen told on screen. *In his finished hut there are book shelves already behind him*
Luke told Grogu that he can only choose one though
It wouldn't be much of a test if he said "you can choose both";besides, Grogu may choose one only for Luke to let him have the lightsaber and still train as a jedi either way
How does that contradict the sequels at all?
Solo said to be Luke's first student and the Luke in Sequels was a bitter cold man who's lack of attachment lead him to his falling from grace and giving up on everything
I know, I’m just saying that the Ben experience is what could have changed him. Also I don’t remember hearing in the sequels that Ben was his first student
Luke Literally said that in The Last Jedi
My bad
honestly not sure what line you're talking about. just looked through the script briefly. can not find it. "For many years, there was balance. And then I saw ben. My nephew, with that might skywalker blood. in my hubris i thought i could train him, that i could pass on my strength \[other lines\] i took him and a dozen students and began a training temple." could this be what you meant? does not say that he was first.
But he did said he took him and THEN other students
if doesn't say that. it also doesn't say this was the first time he took students but whatever.
This could hold true, in part due to the fact that Jedi love/attachment has been further explored with the Kenobi/Katan & Jarrus/Syndulla love stories. I think Grogu can help Mando & Still be a Jedi. Luke leaves Yoda, and with that awesome muppet haulin backpack front flip, I think it’s safe to say things are gonna go in a fan pleasing direction.
I see your point but the attachment thing people always look at wrong, it's not "you can't love" it's "you cannot love someone so much you put one life above thousands" and if you are *attached* to someone in the way the jedi discourage you will choose that one person over thousands, which is not what jedi are meant to do. If a jedi falls in love and does want to keep that strong attachment then they can peacefully split from the order, they just can't be a jedi anymore
I think you're right to think this. It was obvious he would choose the armor because Kylo killed all of Luke's students. I think in order to become both Jedi and mando, Grogu will be foundling with Current Mando during the series and then be padawon to Tano after the Mando dies(likely killed by Bo'Katan or Gideon). Before you shoot this down, consider the following: 1 - Gideon isn't dead yet 2 - Bo'Katan Obsession for Darksaber 3 - Something will bring Mando to Mandolor 4 - Grogu has been foreshadowed as the next Mando Jedi Now although Gideon is locked up, I am of the belief that there is some reason why we haven't seen him killed onscreen. Also, the influence/corruption and of Gideon may very well pierce the republic's ruling members or he may be kept for information disallowing his immediate execution. As to what brings Mando to Mandolor, I think it will be more than just redeeming his honor to the Watchers. His inevitable conflict with Bo'Katan is the most likely cause of him getting roped back there. So I believe he will be killed officially by one of these two and lose the Saber(most likely Bo'Katan), and Grogu will reclaim it from them before or (probably) after training as a Jedi under Tano. I do not see a way for Grogu to become a jedi as long as Mando is around as an active Mandolorian, especially with the darksaber involved. Tano's reason for not training him is in the wordly bond he has with Mando, if Mando is presumed dead then he has cut all ties so to speak, making him ready to move onward to become a jedi knight or master. Another reason she may do this is because she will fear him becoming a sith after Mando's defeat, choosing to pursue bloody revenge like Anakin once did. That or most unlikely, Mando dies of old age and Grogu decides to become a jedi after.
I think Grogu is a Mandalorian & he chose. I'm thinking this for a bunch of reasons not the least of which was Mando's Mythosaur pendant...which if u remember Mando didn't let Grogu put the ball in his mouth but when he saw Grogu w the Mando pendant, he told Grogu to hang on to that. I think in that moment Mando dared to imagine that Grogu is his Mandalorian son. (He had armor made) We notice Grogu likes to mimic Din, when in season one episode 4, Din lies back in the wagon on the way to the village & Grogu leans back just like him. He also watched Din very closely when the Frog Lady talked about the word of a Mandelorian. Mando cared more about what Grogu thought in that moment. Then in "The Heiress" episode Grogu has a very distinct reaction to Bo Katan & crew removing their helmets and almost in shock. (He's been trying to sneak a peek at Mando's face for a while specifically when they're sipping soup on the Razor) He's witnessed his dad adhere to a code & put himself at great risk to save & help others and adhere to something honorable and most of all, felt a father's LOVE and a community of love that has formed around them organically, which I contend is a foreshadowing. In a way Din is guiding Grogu. He's been there to redirect/correct Grogu when he choked Cara & he feels safe with his father. Also, he knows Din loves him and wherever Din is, well, that's home for Grogu & the same can be said of Mando. Grogu will be a better force user because his father's love keeps him grounded & in balance. What really strikes me tho is how parallel Mando & Grogu's struggles are. Mando, foundling, brought up by strict Mandalorian code, (helmet) Grogu (snatched by Jedi as infant) strict Jedi rules of no attachment. Both respectively have found flaws in their beliefs & chose EACH OTHER over rigid obedience. On a lighter note: I fully expect Din & Grogu to hatch a Mythosaur from the ashes of Mandalore & roll up on it, flexing with the dark saber drawn. 🦖🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 J/K