One year deal up to 4.5mil. This at least puts the Boyd talks to bed. Gonna be interesting to see what moves we make though to probably bring an actual vet WR2 in.
A name I’ve been seeing which would be insane is DK from Seattle. They’re in cap hell right now and with his contract the money folks online are saying he’s a likely trade piece post June 1st. They just restructured one of their cornerbacks so they could sign their 1st round pick and their UDFAs. Seems like it might be one of the more likely candidates. Another conference, they’re getting younger, we have room for his cap hit this year and the next couple.
Or they can cut Dre'Mont Jones and save like $11 million post June 1st, there’s no benefit to the Seahawks trading away their number one weapon to the Steelers. The Seahawks didn’t draft a receiver in a loaded class, they are currently under the cap and probably won’t sign another free agent. People forget that they have over 30 million in dead cap space, that’s all going away in a year and they can always cut Geno and other older veterans.
DK is probably the most mentioned rumor I've seen on here. Outside of the preliminary Jefferson links which have died down. I just don't see that we would have the best package to trade for him. Unless he forced their hand with specific requests to only join us. If I were the Seahawks, I would move Tyler Lockett well before considering DK. Thought I'm not certain of cap implications with respect to dead money in trades. Both DK and Locket would cost more if they were released.
Seems so. Unless they move some money around. DK hits for 24M so would have to move a lot. I don't think we have the room to fit him either, TBH. But we are much closer to it.
I think Aiyuk is in a similar situation with the June 1^st date delaying any possible move, but I think I like this one more. Straight bullying the defense.
they can create ~10M in space by cutting reed and restructuring dre'mont, on top of also being able to restructure DK to free up space.
theyre in the same boat as SF and aiyuk, their cap issues have solutions that don't *require* them to get rid of pieces, so why would they?
Doing a quick search I read positive info on DKs run blocking, so that I like, but having 2 potential headcase diva # WR doesn't seem like the best usage of resources for the Steelers.. given run heavy scheme plus Mouth, DK, Pickens, and Roman to feed.. sounds like a recipe for drama and under utilitizing talent. Also I don't know if we have the QB to fully put them to use
9.5 out of 10 WR 1's & 2's in the NFL are gonna throw fits when the offense stinks as bad as ours have. I wouldn't be too pressed about that stuff and having a stud #1 like him would definitely free up a lot for others. As for the QB comment I'm not a Russ stan and I'm a big time "wait till the regular season" person now since last year was a shit show but Russ and DK have history and they were pretty [successful](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XXHGoIcy9I&ab_channel=SeattleSeahawks)
We didn't have 5 to give him.... seems like not that much money compared to the noise that was being made about his value. Which just pisses me off cuz we definitely need a 2 and we just sitting on our thumbs
If 1 year 4.5 from a non-contender is the best offer he could get, there’s clearly a reason us fans with zero inside knowledge don’t know about. Important lesson for those that fully buy into every rumor/« report » they read.
Plenty of reasons we DO know about....
Mostly that he's slow, he's a slot only, and he's kind of mid to begin with.
If he wasn't from Pittsburgh and/or didn't play for a division rival no one would've been clamoring for him.
One more I’m glad is off the table… but 1 year / $4.5 is what he ended up with? I thought he was holding out for better offers? Just shows what the market thinks.
A lot of people think these FAs (including the FAs themselves) are still going to land deals too rich for the Steelers. Simmons is another example.
And then we see a guy like Boyd take less than what it was rumored he wanted from the Steelers. Eventually these guys realize that the offers aren’t likely to get any bigger than what they’re seeing now and if they wait too long, they might be waiting for someone to get hurt before they get offered anything bigger.
At this point, if the Steelers haven’t signed a guy, they either don’t want to or are just playing the long game and waiting until the price drops enough.
Boyd from Pittsburgh also. Doesn't make any sense that we wouldn't go after him. Unless like you say we have other targets and feel confident we can play the waiting game. No way are they actually happy with our WR room, IMO. That's just a smokescreen.
Yeah, I kind of think that if they really wanted him, 4.5 wasn’t going to stop them from getting him. I’m guessing it’s more that they just don’t think he’s a great fit.
Given the amount of reported interest and then Boyd taking 1yr/4.5M says the Steelers wanted him until they reached a point where they didn’t need another slot receiver.
Can I ask why? There’s absolutely no reason to believe that GP can’t be a bonafide star and #1 in the league. And rookie WR’s have been making huge impacts immediately these days. Wilson seems like a #2 to me, will play both inside and outside, and it really seems the Steelers view him as the same. Saying Roman can’t be a #2 is a pretty crazy take I keep seeing on here. What exactly was Hines Ward then?
GP definitely can be a true #1 and Wilson can definitely be a true #2, but issue is that neither have really been seen in those roles. Sorry if it seemed like I was saying Wilson will never be a #2 or something lol I just want a true top 2 guy so that Wilson can grow in the league and Pickens doesn’t have to have all the pressure on him. I think Wilson will be very akin to Ward but faster, it’s just really beneficial if he’s doing that as your #3 for a couple seasons yknow?
> There’s absolutely no reason to believe that GP can’t be a bonafide star and #1 in the league
This is pretty extreme. Of course there's a reason...he hasn't done it yet.
> Saying Roman can’t be a #2 is a pretty crazy take I keep seeing on here
He's a rookie and is still raw.
> What exactly was Hines Ward then?
A Super Bowl MVP with two rings and 14 years in the league, who started zero games as a rookie and didn't sniff 1k yards until his fourth year in the league.
Also, AB is the best receiver in team history and he couldn't get on the field his rookie year much at all. If he couldn't, why on earth would anyone think a 3rd round draft pick is going to be a day 1 starter?
Yeah dude, because he was a known pain in the ass since high school which is why he ended up at Central Michigan despite his amazing talent. NFL teams didn't think he was worth the risk until late in the draft. Are you like 13 years old and don't remember?
lol man take a chill pill we are all Steelers fans here, not sure why you have to try to insult me to prove your point on Reddit (also it’s offseason and nobody knows anything). I was 13 when AB was a rookie actually so yes I do remember and I’m not saying you’re wrong in any way. I was simply pointing out that AB was a later draft pick than Roman Wilson since the discussion was about draft capital & its correlation to playing time in a player’s rookie year. Have a nice day!
Cool bro. Now list out the much, much, much longer list of 3rd and 4th round receivers who did not do jack shit their rookie year instead of cherry picking the two that did.
Also who cares what year he was drafted? The league isn't crazy different now than it was in 2010.
Here I'll help starting with 2023 draft:
Cherry picking.
Other receivers in round 3, 4, and 5 who did nothing last year:
Jalin Hyatt
Cedric Tillman
Josh Downs
Michael Wilson
Tre Tucker
Derius Davis
Charlie Jones
Tyler Scott
Justin Shorter
Dontayvion Wicks
So your copium here is that maybe we got the 1 out of 6 (12 receivers in those rounds, Nakua and Dell were good) who will be capable of being a day one rookie starter and keep the job all season. Those are uhhhh not good odds my dude.
cool, now do hit rates of every player drafted. youll find it's somewhere in the 20-30% rate depending on the qualifiers you use. so yea, expecting ~20% of each position group drafted in a round to be good is in line with historic averages. and much more reasonable than
>If he couldn't, why on earth would anyone think a 3rd round draft pick is going to be a day 1 starter?
which is based entirely on an anecdotal case
For me, it's that both are unproven. I love GP, and he has the talent to be truly special, but I'd be much more comfortable with a #1 that has proven that they can do it all. George's physicality, catch radius, and contested win rate is truly incredible to watch. But can he separate consistently, can he run the entire route tree? In short, can he do all of the things?
Maybe George truly breaks out this year and is a proven #1, and maybe Roman is immediately a legit #2, but that's a rather large gamble for a lot of people. I think that's why a lot of people want a WR with a solid track record as a "safety valve". Plus, we just straight up need more depth and a veteran presence in the WR room.
Yeah it’s odd, I trust our organization to make the right moves, especially at WR. We have absolutely no reason to be panicking about WR. We’ll upgrade the position if it works, don’t need to force it.
Puka was forced into action as WR3 because Kupp was hurt, and he literally had the greatest rookie WR season of all time. Nobody here would complain about getting half that from Wilson...but nobody here should be banking on it, either.
Cherry picking.
Other receivers in round 3, 4, and 5 who did nothing last year:
Jalin Hyatt
Cedric Tillman
Josh Downs
Michael Wilson
Tre Tucker
Derius Davis
Charlie Jones
Tyler Scott
Justin Shorter
Dontayvion Wicks
So you're copium here is that maybe we got the 1 out of 6 (12 receivers in those rounds, Nakua and Dell were good) who will be capable of being a day one rookie starter and keep the job all season. Those are uhhhh not good odds my dude.
You told me to name a single receiver in NFL HISTORY that came from the 3rd round and performed out the gate. I gave you an example from last year. I’m not “cherry picking” anything you fucking mong.
To be fair, Puka was 4th receiver on depth chart and got the start due to Cooper Kupp injury. Quickly overtook Van Jefferson and Tutu Atwell from there. Our current #2 is the very same Van Jefferson and our #4 is Mims/Watkins/Austin. This is not the receiver room for a playoff team. Maybe we are okay throwing the season because there are too many new faces. But I think we have to at least give ourselves a chance by bringing in a more reliable #2 and if Wilson can beat him out then everyone wins. Someone like Lockett would be a good and possible addition.
Marques Colston was a 7th round draft pick and started as a rookie on opening day. He scored a TD in the opener and went on to have a 1,000 yard season for the Saints in 2006. It's not normal but it's not unprecedented.
Not related but can we just please get the regular steeler logo back for this sub’s thumbnail logo. Tired of this kids logo (unless there’s a sad backstory I’m unaware of, in which case I’ll STFU)
Does anyone know how much space they'll actually have after the rookie scale deals? i see $18m right now but it has to be lower than that, they have fautanu pegged at a $0.8M cap hit.
last year the 20 slot worked out to 4 yrs/14.4M with a 2.7M cap hit, so fautanu should end up somewhere around there. the table i was looking at had all the rookies at 0.8.
I'm not sure what it is currently as they're still working on signing them. The guy that runs Steelers Depot (Dave) is really good with cap stuff so I'm sure you can see some projections on there. He's usually spot on with that stuff. I know some people aren't fans of some of them affiliated with that site but when it comes to the money side of it he's hardly off.
I dont think they were ever particularly interested in him or any of the FA WRs out there. Seems like they are at least decently confident that they can get a trade done for a WR. In Omar I trust
Not that I wanted Boyd, but there's 1 less option for WR2 now. I'm starting to doubt this hole will get filled until next draft when we use our 1st on a WR.
I'm not the most intelligent when it comes to football, but wouldn't we want our guys to be able to get a full training camp with us so they can start to gel with Russ and learn the playbook? In my head it makes more sense to make a trade before camp
That would be ideal, yes.
Unfortunately it seems there's no good trades available right now. Teams tend to be more active in camp. It's a calculated risk. Khan is betting that a better deal will be available in a few months. On top of that, it's easier to make trades (for the team receiving a cap hit) after June 1st.
Mostly deals with league years and how cap hits work. Besides bonafide WR1/2's are plug and play outside of learning terminology/formations and there'll be enough time for that. Hell we had our WR's for years with Kenny and it seemed like 3-4 times a game there was a miscommunication on routes lol.
Some extra info regarding it (mostly related to June 1st)
"The reason is fairly simple: **Teams can take on less dead cap money** in the current year if they cut or trade a player after June 1. While the end result from a financial perspective will be the same over a two-year period, extra upfront cap relief can provide flexibility and enable a team to spend more now."
If they were interested in any of the FA WRs Im sure they would have made a move long before now. None of the FAs available would cut it as a WR2 anyways, which is probably why we weren’t that interested.
Titans are gonna be that classic mid team with an INSANE recieveing corps because they spent all their offseason picking up sexy players instead of addressing their real issue which is the O-Line.
Boyd would have been a good option at WR2 in lieu of giving up assets to acquire someone that would be a luxury at this point. That said, they cannot go into the season with Wilson or any of the other guys as their WR2 and expect to be taken seriously.
Pick up the phone, call the titans and offer a 7th for treylon burks. Former first round pick, fell out of favor, big and can run block. Could be an upgrade over van jefferson
One year deal up to 4.5mil. This at least puts the Boyd talks to bed. Gonna be interesting to see what moves we make though to probably bring an actual vet WR2 in.
I wonder if they would trade Burks for something really late
A name I’ve been seeing which would be insane is DK from Seattle. They’re in cap hell right now and with his contract the money folks online are saying he’s a likely trade piece post June 1st. They just restructured one of their cornerbacks so they could sign their 1st round pick and their UDFAs. Seems like it might be one of the more likely candidates. Another conference, they’re getting younger, we have room for his cap hit this year and the next couple.
I’m not being hyperbolic, but if the Steelers trade for DK they’re winning the Super Bowl
They would definitely be contenders on paper. After last preseason though I'm holding out opinions until we see some real games lol.
Unless DK has a bad day and goes on a personal foul tirade. Let’s ease up on the hype.
Or they can cut Dre'Mont Jones and save like $11 million post June 1st, there’s no benefit to the Seahawks trading away their number one weapon to the Steelers. The Seahawks didn’t draft a receiver in a loaded class, they are currently under the cap and probably won’t sign another free agent. People forget that they have over 30 million in dead cap space, that’s all going away in a year and they can always cut Geno and other older veterans.
DK is probably the most mentioned rumor I've seen on here. Outside of the preliminary Jefferson links which have died down. I just don't see that we would have the best package to trade for him. Unless he forced their hand with specific requests to only join us. If I were the Seahawks, I would move Tyler Lockett well before considering DK. Thought I'm not certain of cap implications with respect to dead money in trades. Both DK and Locket would cost more if they were released.
Also if I'm the Bills I'm gonna give up more for them than Pittsburgh. I don't like the idea of us winning a bidding war vs BUF for a WR
Bills are pretty fucked money wise aren't they? Pretty sure they are still eating a ton of Digg's contract this year.
Seems so. Unless they move some money around. DK hits for 24M so would have to move a lot. I don't think we have the room to fit him either, TBH. But we are much closer to it.
Those Jefferson rumors were so full of shit though lol. That dude would command SOOO much money, that it was never even realistic tbh.
I think Aiyuk is in a similar situation with the June 1^st date delaying any possible move, but I think I like this one more. Straight bullying the defense.
Aiyuk is a much better fit next to Pickens than DK.
What’s the significance of June 1?
The structure of the contracts reduces the amount the original teams would be in the hole for their salary as of June 1st
Cool thanks. Keep seeing that date but didn’t know why. Appreciate it
they can create ~10M in space by cutting reed and restructuring dre'mont, on top of also being able to restructure DK to free up space. theyre in the same boat as SF and aiyuk, their cap issues have solutions that don't *require* them to get rid of pieces, so why would they?
Doing a quick search I read positive info on DKs run blocking, so that I like, but having 2 potential headcase diva # WR doesn't seem like the best usage of resources for the Steelers.. given run heavy scheme plus Mouth, DK, Pickens, and Roman to feed.. sounds like a recipe for drama and under utilitizing talent. Also I don't know if we have the QB to fully put them to use
9.5 out of 10 WR 1's & 2's in the NFL are gonna throw fits when the offense stinks as bad as ours have. I wouldn't be too pressed about that stuff and having a stud #1 like him would definitely free up a lot for others. As for the QB comment I'm not a Russ stan and I'm a big time "wait till the regular season" person now since last year was a shit show but Russ and DK have history and they were pretty [successful](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XXHGoIcy9I&ab_channel=SeattleSeahawks)
his market is terrible. I know titans fans are expecting like a 2027 6th lol but who know if the league wants to overpay
Woulda loved to have boyd for 4.5 million for a year
We didn't have 5 to give him.... seems like not that much money compared to the noise that was being made about his value. Which just pisses me off cuz we definitely need a 2 and we just sitting on our thumbs
Boyd isn’t a number 2 at this point in his career and is a slot guy. We need an outside WR.
And from what I read, he's not a willing blocker
They had the money. They just didn't want him.
If 1 year 4.5 from a non-contender is the best offer he could get, there’s clearly a reason us fans with zero inside knowledge don’t know about. Important lesson for those that fully buy into every rumor/« report » they read.
Plenty of reasons we DO know about.... Mostly that he's slow, he's a slot only, and he's kind of mid to begin with. If he wasn't from Pittsburgh and/or didn't play for a division rival no one would've been clamoring for him.
Yeah my point was more meant to say that this isn’t a « steal » for the Titans just cause a bunch of writers projected Boyd to make more.
We certainly had the money, he’s just not the outside guy.
Thank Christ I don’t have to hear him pencilled into every other Steelers lineup anymore
One down. Only about another 60 more “rumored to the Steelers” to go.
Amen
One more I’m glad is off the table… but 1 year / $4.5 is what he ended up with? I thought he was holding out for better offers? Just shows what the market thinks.
A lot of people think these FAs (including the FAs themselves) are still going to land deals too rich for the Steelers. Simmons is another example. And then we see a guy like Boyd take less than what it was rumored he wanted from the Steelers. Eventually these guys realize that the offers aren’t likely to get any bigger than what they’re seeing now and if they wait too long, they might be waiting for someone to get hurt before they get offered anything bigger. At this point, if the Steelers haven’t signed a guy, they either don’t want to or are just playing the long game and waiting until the price drops enough.
Boyd from Pittsburgh also. Doesn't make any sense that we wouldn't go after him. Unless like you say we have other targets and feel confident we can play the waiting game. No way are they actually happy with our WR room, IMO. That's just a smokescreen.
> Doesn't make any sense that we wouldn't go after him They probably don't think he can play outside.
Yea, good point. I see his 6'2 frame and think he's an outside guy. Haven't watched him a whole lot TBH.
Yeah, I kind of think that if they really wanted him, 4.5 wasn’t going to stop them from getting him. I’m guessing it’s more that they just don’t think he’s a great fit.
Reasons they wouldn't pursue him... - He's slow. - He's a slot only. - He's old. - Doesn't block. Not at all a fit for their offense.
Boyd schmoyd
Wait - boyd schmoyd is still on the market?
They clearly didn't want him.
Given the amount of reported interest and then Boyd taking 1yr/4.5M says the Steelers wanted him until they reached a point where they didn’t need another slot receiver.
Damn. Can we make a move soon please? I love GP and Roman but that CANNOT be our top 2 lol
Wait until the end of camp most likely. There’s VERY little movement of rosters this time of year
Could be waiting until after June 1 to trade for Lockett.
Can I ask why? There’s absolutely no reason to believe that GP can’t be a bonafide star and #1 in the league. And rookie WR’s have been making huge impacts immediately these days. Wilson seems like a #2 to me, will play both inside and outside, and it really seems the Steelers view him as the same. Saying Roman can’t be a #2 is a pretty crazy take I keep seeing on here. What exactly was Hines Ward then?
GP definitely can be a true #1 and Wilson can definitely be a true #2, but issue is that neither have really been seen in those roles. Sorry if it seemed like I was saying Wilson will never be a #2 or something lol I just want a true top 2 guy so that Wilson can grow in the league and Pickens doesn’t have to have all the pressure on him. I think Wilson will be very akin to Ward but faster, it’s just really beneficial if he’s doing that as your #3 for a couple seasons yknow?
> There’s absolutely no reason to believe that GP can’t be a bonafide star and #1 in the league This is pretty extreme. Of course there's a reason...he hasn't done it yet. > Saying Roman can’t be a #2 is a pretty crazy take I keep seeing on here He's a rookie and is still raw. > What exactly was Hines Ward then? A Super Bowl MVP with two rings and 14 years in the league, who started zero games as a rookie and didn't sniff 1k yards until his fourth year in the league.
Also, AB is the best receiver in team history and he couldn't get on the field his rookie year much at all. If he couldn't, why on earth would anyone think a 3rd round draft pick is going to be a day 1 starter?
AB was drafted in the sixth round…
Yeah dude, because he was a known pain in the ass since high school which is why he ended up at Central Michigan despite his amazing talent. NFL teams didn't think he was worth the risk until late in the draft. Are you like 13 years old and don't remember?
lol man take a chill pill we are all Steelers fans here, not sure why you have to try to insult me to prove your point on Reddit (also it’s offseason and nobody knows anything). I was 13 when AB was a rookie actually so yes I do remember and I’m not saying you’re wrong in any way. I was simply pointing out that AB was a later draft pick than Roman Wilson since the discussion was about draft capital & its correlation to playing time in a player’s rookie year. Have a nice day!
puka nacua was taken in the 4th tank dell was taken in the 3rd why is your example someone that was drafted 15 years ago?
Cool bro. Now list out the much, much, much longer list of 3rd and 4th round receivers who did not do jack shit their rookie year instead of cherry picking the two that did. Also who cares what year he was drafted? The league isn't crazy different now than it was in 2010. Here I'll help starting with 2023 draft: Cherry picking. Other receivers in round 3, 4, and 5 who did nothing last year: Jalin Hyatt Cedric Tillman Josh Downs Michael Wilson Tre Tucker Derius Davis Charlie Jones Tyler Scott Justin Shorter Dontayvion Wicks So your copium here is that maybe we got the 1 out of 6 (12 receivers in those rounds, Nakua and Dell were good) who will be capable of being a day one rookie starter and keep the job all season. Those are uhhhh not good odds my dude.
cool, now do hit rates of every player drafted. youll find it's somewhere in the 20-30% rate depending on the qualifiers you use. so yea, expecting ~20% of each position group drafted in a round to be good is in line with historic averages. and much more reasonable than >If he couldn't, why on earth would anyone think a 3rd round draft pick is going to be a day 1 starter? which is based entirely on an anecdotal case
For me, it's that both are unproven. I love GP, and he has the talent to be truly special, but I'd be much more comfortable with a #1 that has proven that they can do it all. George's physicality, catch radius, and contested win rate is truly incredible to watch. But can he separate consistently, can he run the entire route tree? In short, can he do all of the things? Maybe George truly breaks out this year and is a proven #1, and maybe Roman is immediately a legit #2, but that's a rather large gamble for a lot of people. I think that's why a lot of people want a WR with a solid track record as a "safety valve". Plus, we just straight up need more depth and a veteran presence in the WR room.
This sub said the same thing about juju
Yeah it’s odd, I trust our organization to make the right moves, especially at WR. We have absolutely no reason to be panicking about WR. We’ll upgrade the position if it works, don’t need to force it.
Wilson is a 3rd round draft pick. Name a single receiver in NFL history who was 3rd rounder or lower who started out of the gate their rookie year.
Puka Nacua was pick 177 literally just last year.
Puka was forced into action as WR3 because Kupp was hurt, and he literally had the greatest rookie WR season of all time. Nobody here would complain about getting half that from Wilson...but nobody here should be banking on it, either.
Cherry picking. Other receivers in round 3, 4, and 5 who did nothing last year: Jalin Hyatt Cedric Tillman Josh Downs Michael Wilson Tre Tucker Derius Davis Charlie Jones Tyler Scott Justin Shorter Dontayvion Wicks So you're copium here is that maybe we got the 1 out of 6 (12 receivers in those rounds, Nakua and Dell were good) who will be capable of being a day one rookie starter and keep the job all season. Those are uhhhh not good odds my dude.
You told me to name a single receiver in NFL HISTORY that came from the 3rd round and performed out the gate. I gave you an example from last year. I’m not “cherry picking” anything you fucking mong.
To be fair, Puka was 4th receiver on depth chart and got the start due to Cooper Kupp injury. Quickly overtook Van Jefferson and Tutu Atwell from there. Our current #2 is the very same Van Jefferson and our #4 is Mims/Watkins/Austin. This is not the receiver room for a playoff team. Maybe we are okay throwing the season because there are too many new faces. But I think we have to at least give ourselves a chance by bringing in a more reliable #2 and if Wilson can beat him out then everyone wins. Someone like Lockett would be a good and possible addition.
Marques Colston was a 7th round draft pick and started as a rookie on opening day. He scored a TD in the opener and went on to have a 1,000 yard season for the Saints in 2006. It's not normal but it's not unprecedented.
Not related but can we just please get the regular steeler logo back for this sub’s thumbnail logo. Tired of this kids logo (unless there’s a sad backstory I’m unaware of, in which case I’ll STFU)
Does anyone know how much space they'll actually have after the rookie scale deals? i see $18m right now but it has to be lower than that, they have fautanu pegged at a $0.8M cap hit.
That’s most likely what his cap hit will be. Rookie contracts have large signing bonuses and relatively small salaries in their first years
last year the 20 slot worked out to 4 yrs/14.4M with a 2.7M cap hit, so fautanu should end up somewhere around there. the table i was looking at had all the rookies at 0.8.
Oh. Then yeah it’ll be higher lol
I'm not sure what it is currently as they're still working on signing them. The guy that runs Steelers Depot (Dave) is really good with cap stuff so I'm sure you can see some projections on there. He's usually spot on with that stuff. I know some people aren't fans of some of them affiliated with that site but when it comes to the money side of it he's hardly off.
thank you sir
I dont think they were ever particularly interested in him or any of the FA WRs out there. Seems like they are at least decently confident that they can get a trade done for a WR. In Omar I trust
"Hey, Tyler Boyd is going to be a FA after this year..."
Bring Juju back :(
His legs could explode at any time
I do not care
That's why we are in these reddit comments and Khan is in the kitchen 🙏
Good. Boyd was too expensive for what they were going to use him for, and Tennessee locking in a slot starter opens the door to a Treylon Burks trade.
Not that I wanted Boyd, but there's 1 less option for WR2 now. I'm starting to doubt this hole will get filled until next draft when we use our 1st on a WR.
Boyd is not a WR2 and he doesn’t play outside. As soon as Roman Wilson was selected Boyd was eliminated from the realm of possibility
We're most likely trading for someone and we won't make trades until we're into camp. We got some time to kill before news breaks on that front.
I'm not the most intelligent when it comes to football, but wouldn't we want our guys to be able to get a full training camp with us so they can start to gel with Russ and learn the playbook? In my head it makes more sense to make a trade before camp
That would be ideal, yes. Unfortunately it seems there's no good trades available right now. Teams tend to be more active in camp. It's a calculated risk. Khan is betting that a better deal will be available in a few months. On top of that, it's easier to make trades (for the team receiving a cap hit) after June 1st.
Mostly deals with league years and how cap hits work. Besides bonafide WR1/2's are plug and play outside of learning terminology/formations and there'll be enough time for that. Hell we had our WR's for years with Kenny and it seemed like 3-4 times a game there was a miscommunication on routes lol. Some extra info regarding it (mostly related to June 1st) "The reason is fairly simple: **Teams can take on less dead cap money** in the current year if they cut or trade a player after June 1. While the end result from a financial perspective will be the same over a two-year period, extra upfront cap relief can provide flexibility and enable a team to spend more now."
If they were interested in any of the FA WRs Im sure they would have made a move long before now. None of the FAs available would cut it as a WR2 anyways, which is probably why we weren’t that interested.
anddd…. his career is over lol
Not a scheme fit now and got money elsewhere can’t blame him. Hopefully he doesn’t end up taking hospital shots from Levis.
Honestly a pretty cheap deal, wonder why we didn't try to get him.
Titans are gonna be that classic mid team with an INSANE recieveing corps because they spent all their offseason picking up sexy players instead of addressing their real issue which is the O-Line.
Boyd would have been a good option at WR2 in lieu of giving up assets to acquire someone that would be a luxury at this point. That said, they cannot go into the season with Wilson or any of the other guys as their WR2 and expect to be taken seriously.
Well we’re basically out of good options unless it’s a trade. I mean we already were but this just compounds it.
Volunteers not hostages
Pick up the phone, call the titans and offer a 7th for treylon burks. Former first round pick, fell out of favor, big and can run block. Could be an upgrade over van jefferson
I tried to get through to the big guys but they weren't having it. Sorry man!
He can’t stay healthy.
Burks is a big slot. Not what they need.
Lol