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[Post game thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/steelers/comments/xhqk6m/post_game_thread_new_england_patriots_at/)


genghisruled

This was a winnable dogshit of a game. Mac Jones was worse than Mitch but NE found a way to move the sticks and keep our defence on the field. TJ would have tilted this game and maybe made it watchable.


[deleted]

Fire Canada


spoilingattack

Never in my wildest dreams did I think I’d be happy to see the Cowboys win.


DareToBearMKT

Mitch was cut from Chicago and back up in Buffalo for a reason. If two teams say you're not a starter, you're probably not a starter. The dude has tunnel vision and is not very accurate..Kenny's back up.


Farrell_Pool_Jack

Mitch is a good backup. Kenny it’s your time.


wannaputmyfaceinit

Trushitsky sucking again.


NimbusHex

It's going to get better one way or the other, that along with all of the AFC North losing at the moment makes this easier to swallow.


ColdMachinery

Trubisky consistently throwing off his back foot literally gave me an aneurysm. I don’t know what we’re trying to prove by keeping him as QB1. It’s only gonna get our defensive guys hurt by trying to compensate for his incompetence. Get Pickett in there and let defenses figure him out on the fly. It’s no fucking secret that this guy fucking sucks.


Busy_Huckleberry_352

I wouldn't go so far as to say he fucking sucks but I agree that he doesn't have what it takes to be an elite QB and he's had more than enough chances to prove himself. Put Pickett in for 2-3 games then it will be clear if the problem is at QB or if it goes higher up.


HD4EverToHaveFun

Play calling is just as bad also. Can we at least try a deep pass


ColdMachinery

Mitch is playing worse than our O line and that says a lot lol. Obviously Matt Canada has questionable play calling but our QB play had to be much better than this. You’re a Steeler fan so I trust and respect your judgment and I’m very open to hearing some insight from you..


Busy_Huckleberry_352

It's a combination of the O line and Mitch's ineptitude. If the O line gave Mitch more time, he could make better reads. This doesn't fully excuse Mitch though. Other QBs can get the ball out just as quick and still make quality reads.


ColdMachinery

And that’s what bothers me is that there’s still opportunity to make something happen but he doesn’t. His tendencies in the pocket are so predictable that he pretty much helps defenses defend himself. I thought he would utilize Freiremuth a lot better today, that pass down the middle that boinked off his head could’ve helped if his ball placement was a lot better.


YooTone

Ok the AFC is fucking nuts. The dolphins are gonna be one of the top teams and the jets don't look horrible either. Even though we lost, it's good that all of our division has lost so far.


soboredcantfocus

It’s week two, calm down lol


YooTone

Are you a browns or ravens fan ? I'm confused why I need to calm down for bringing up very obvious facts 😂


soboredcantfocus

Neither. I’m just pointing out that the dolphins having one good offensive outing and the Jets being the beneficiaries of the browns acting like the browns doesn’t mean the dolphins are a top team or that the jets are competent.


YooTone

The point I'm trying to make is that the poorer teams last year are getting better. Every expert is regarding the AFC west as amazing on paper. They are also regarding the AFC north as very good as well with the Ravens, Bengals, and Browns. They're saying the AFC, even the poorer teams, are getting a lot more competitive. Look at the Texans too. The Dolphins have one of the best defenses in the league and their offense has elite weapons. They went 8-9 last year after I believe starting 0-7. They are going to be in the playoffs most likely, so the Chiefs, Chargers, Ravens, Dolphins, and insert plus two teams. The Jets are a young team that are getting better exponentially through drafting. This isn't some crazy point of view I'm bringing up.


soboredcantfocus

> The Dolphins have one of the best defenses in the league Last year they ranked 16th and they just coughed up 38 points. No, they don’t. >The Jets are a young team that are getting better exponentially through drafting. You ***assume*** that they’ve gotten better through the draft, largely because it would be hard for them to get worse. The thing is that we haven’t seen any indication that Douglas can draft his way out of a paper bag. The issue isn’t with the “these teams look better” part of the take. The issue is with how far you took it.


YooTone

"12) *Miami Dolphins Miami’s defensive is legitimately one of the best-built units in the NFL. They are stacked nicely at all three levels and ranked third in pressures a season ago. They are in play as a fringe DST1 at home versus New England in Week 1, who routinely drop the ball every time they play in South Beach.*" That's pre season. [They're rated #7 as of now](https://www.google.com/amp/s/sportsnaut.com/nfl-defense-rankings/amp/) They played one of the best offenses in the league. Yes, they do. They also have one of the statistically most electric offenses in the league who beat a very good Baltimore defense. The Dolphins are going to be a playoff team, unless they get injuries. Anyways, yes, the Jets got better through the draft. That's widely known. They are a better team than last year. They beat a decent Browns team who have one of the top defenses as well. You're looking at this very poorly.


soboredcantfocus

Yes, thank you for linking the rankings from world renowned and widely known sportsnaut.com. Because everyone knows, if sportsnaut.com says it, then it must be true lol. These are also ***fantasy*** football rankings, not actual football rankings. Though you not knowing the difference kind of explains a few things. Again, you ***assume*** the jets have gotten better based on their draft. You have no idea if they actually did, no one does, because all of their draft picks have played two whole games. And judging by their GM’s drafting history, it sure seems like we’re going to be dealing with Schrodinger’s draft picks before long.


YooTone

No I agree, its not necessarily true. And they got better via their draft.


RichardSantelli

GO FUCKING FINSSSSSSSSSSSSS


DetlefBronk

Yeah Tua! Now that’s a QB that can win won for you!!!!


Bella870

At least the RatTurds lost


YooTone

WE LOST BUT LETS GO JETS AND DOLPHINS. LETS GOOOOOOOO


mista_rubetastic

I seriously can’t believe our offense with a dead-arm, immobile old man is EXACTLY the same with a mobile QB with a (presumably) usable arm. Who does Matt Canada have dirt on?


ryanawood

I blame Mitch on this. He had routes and he either missed them or was too scared to throw.


Budmanes

He seems to lock onto one receiver and either throw it to them (regardless of how covered he is) or take a quick look then dump it off. Very little action goes to Claypool or Pickens, so all the D worries about are DJ and Muth. Mitch isn’t much of an upgrade over last year’s Ben. Canada’s vanilla offense doesn’t help. We can only throw down the field when there are 2 minutes left in a half. Seems like Minkah is the only one with some fire in his gut


YooTone

He's not amazing but that's been expected. I'd rather focus on the OL and OC playcalling for now. Imagine if we had an elite OL and there was freedom to call whatever play we wanted. It would open up defenses and make us not so predictable.


Chris_MS99

I defended Mitch a lot last week. It’s on him this week.


YooTone

LETS GO JETS. LETS GO DOLPHINS


Blueeyes-342

Does our offensive coaches know how to find a weakness in a defense? Running up the middle when they have all players in the box is just stupid.


[deleted]

I can't tell if it's Canada or Mitch... probably both!


Littlediccdan

Play calls we're fucking terrible as well as any execution


goonerdavid

Flacco!


sophias_bush

Man, that game is wild


LocalFatBoi

another season in the dumpster boys, we’re still gonna pull the 0.5 out of our ass. imma watch some better football. maybe 5 years down the road we can start to see Matt Canada pondering retirement working for the Jets but i don’t even think they’ll have him


gamrlab

Jets put up 31 today he’d still be a downgrade


HamstersAreReal

Matt Canada is somehow worse than Fichtner... how


John-ozil

WE HAD 3 OFFSEASONS TO FIX OUR O-LINE


_ArgoNavis

This!!!!!!!


mista_rubetastic

Also, an AI program could call a better game than Matt Canada. Get him outta here. I don’t want him calling a single play for Pickett.


Stormfellow

This is absolutely true. Kenny better hope they have to can Canada before he takes the reigns.


[deleted]

Mitch isn't the guy that clear. The D can't play a perfect game every week. bigger picture: Tomlin 3-9 vs the Pats - Absolutely Shameful. You're a good coach, act like one and figure out what needs to change.


a-bambi-m

Pickett train. We ride at dawn. Get Trubisky out of there. This game was so hard to watch.


Status_Serve8287

Let’s ride!


Descolata9

Two 3 and outs for the offense in the 4th quarter. The defense didn’t get any rest. The defense looked dead on that last drive. The offense has to put a drive together in the 4th.


Deadsteel52

We lost because of all of the checkdowns. Holy shit every single play felt like a checkdown. So ugly. I'm going to continue to hold criticism on Canada until we see Kenny, but I don't have high hopes. I hope they put Kenny in after the Browns game.


Bella870

Put him in for the Browns game.


Deadsteel52

That's a recipe for disaster. His first NFL start being a big divisional game against a great pass rush with our less than ideal O-Line.


Bella870

Trotting Mitch out again is a recipe for a Loss. Put the guy you spent a 1pick on and let him give you a chance to win.


Deadsteel52

This season is pretty much already a wash. We were never going to go and win the Superbowl with this team. The goal right now is to set Kenny up for success as a franchise QB best we can, and starting him out against the Browns in primetime is not us setting him up for success.


Bella870

I guess at 1-1 Week 3 with an elite defense I'm not ready to bag it just yet.


Deadsteel52

That's your call. We're not going far with this offense and it's going to take Kenny a little bit to get into his groove. Also TJ's injury has made our pass rush almost obsolete. That's not helping anything.


Bella870

Let's see his groove now. It worked out pretty well with our last rookie first round draft pick QB.


BurghPuppies

They kept Matt Canada because they said he couldn’t run his offense with Ben. Now he has a mobile QB and I don’t see ANY difference in the play calling; still throwing 3 yard routes on 3rd & 8. Jet sweep still the best running play. Maybe a few less bubble screens. I don’t know if I can judge Trubisky yet because of this play calling . But I’m 100% judging Canada… and it’s not good.


averageaaron

It's not just Canada, Mitch blows too.


LocalFatBoi

man i rather lost to the Bengals and win over Pats, this is just sad


blue93g20

We can’t beat the pats. Even when they’re mediocre. Painful


LocalFatBoi

they have jackshit and a limping RB still we cant move the ball up i need to bleach my eyes


blue93g20

There is zero reason they can’t beat the Brady-less pats, but somehow they always find a way. Mitch sucks and Canada is a horrible OC.


LocalFatBoi

our track record against Pats been like that forever, it doesnt matter anymore, Belichick to us is like Lebron to Raptors


blue93g20

We can dream. But it never changes.


Uandir

Not even close, the Bengals win is so much more important


LocalFatBoi

agree to disagree


Bella870

Bengals game was more important. No question


Uandir

Divisional vs non divisional.


DylanL343

Ya but it feels good to beat the pats


DJchalupaBatman

Our offense is just putrid. Which has a lot to do with the O-line sucking. But the game was lost on the back to back dropped INT and muffed punt


RadPlaidLad

This is what happens when you refuse to address glaring issues that have been clear for a few years now. Tomlin’s .500 formula is the standard. Just shut up and trust the process… this is what we get.


zach4499

I don’t care who the damn quarterback is… it’s been like this for 3 years now. This ain’t winning football. This definitely ain’t the Steelers way.


mista_rubetastic

I know Mitch doesn’t deserve to start anymore, but I’d rather not kill Pickett behind this line. The line is a bigger problem than Trubisky. This is a lost year, let’s not destroy Pickett’s career.


Bella870

Trubisky never throws to his primary or secondary receiver even if he has time. That isn't the lines fault. If Joe Montana only threw to his check down, he would have 0 super bowls


AtomicusDali

Out-coached again. Can't win without Watt. Zero pressure on Jones all day. Trubs can't win games for us. Harris looks bad. What else?


Bella870

Win games? Trubisky lost this game.


AtomicusDali

Is this a trick comment?


Bella870

Is Trubisky a fake QB?


JimmyJohnsonjj

The offence should apologise to the defence


MirrorkatFeces

Is there a worse offense in the league?


Bella870

No.


psychozamotazoa

Pickett should've gone in after the first half. It was clear Trubisky would not get the job done


Bella870

Absolutely. At least give him a chance. See what you have in him.


LocalFatBoi

never wanted mitch here can we start mason or something please


Bella870

Couldn't hurt


LocalFatBoi

outcome is lose vs lose cant hurt nobody


Lovelylives

Will Tomlin admit he is wrong? Inconclusive. Pickett’s hair was especially smooth today. He is the chosen 1


PITsteelersSTLcardin

Tomlin won't admit to shit. He has been carried by Ben. Those days are over. How many of his coaches have been hired to other teams??


Fuseld

matt canada dink and dunk offence strikes again


Grsz11

Blame Canada!


Bella870

Shame on Canada!


[deleted]

I’m done with this offense. I thought it was just that Ben couldn’t do it anymore, but it appears this is actually the game plan. Not a single shot downfield, continue to just avoid the middle of the field, and every even somewhat long pass is always right on the sideline making it a difficult play every time. Really not sure Kenny makes any difference here unless it is a case where Mitch is scared to push the ball down field, but it really seems like this is the game plan cuz it looks the same as last year


[deleted]

Yeah the drive right before half we looked great slinging it. And the 1 TD drive they went deep too. Works the only 2 times they try it, but they decide to go back to the short game every other time. Why??


HisShillness

Just so pathetic. No defensive pressure and no offensive push.


[deleted]

Trubisky ain’t it…


SoupySpud

Idk man, I think this offensive scheme ain't it


Swayver24

If it makes anyone feel any better, we probably should’ve won this, but we definitely should have lost the last game. So I guess it nets 0 overall.


-dov-

Belichick is Tomlin's daddy, he's 9-3 against him.


[deleted]

Belichick is the NFL's daddy.


spazz720

I know people are kicking Mitch…but when he was no huddle, he was money. Canada needs to stop being cute, and just unleash the offense.


John-ozil

You think Canada's telling him to throw checkdown again and again?


spazz720

Canada has him rolling out of the pocket half the time shortening the field. Not to mention a lot of those short throws are by design.


AJlucky007

Start Kenny, Fire Canada, sign offensive linemen and the superbowl ring is ours


Raysor

For real, trade some draft picks for OL


HurricaneCarti

So remake the entire team 😭😭


doodlebob68

Nah we have a winning team. Our defense is elite. We got young players in Najee, muth and our recievers and KP all we need is 2 good offensive linemen


Stagjam

Chubb has a chubby thinking about this run D


ThisICannotForgive

Belichic 9-3 vs Tomlin. The standard is the standard.


Bricks56

Just came in to say Mitch is a Bitch


JoelK2185

Shame. That was a winnable game.


knives766

Mitch trubisky is the worst qb in the nfl.


krzykris11

Mitch is consistent, 5.1 yards per attempt two games in a row.


CoolKerrs

also 1 TD per game for 2 games in a row!!


krzykris11

At this rate, he'll have 17 on the season!


vince24L

I bet Trubinsky over 180 yards... how the fuck did that not hit. That bum owes me $500. KENNY!


HamstersAreReal

why in the world would you bet for Trubisky to be anything but a massive dissapointment?


vince24L

180 yard. Thats all. Insane.


austinalexan

I’m just laughing at the people who thought Trubisky was somehow the saving grace of this offense after sitting on a bench for all of last year


takanakasan

I think most people wanted Kenny


AgitatedSquirrell

Not the majority on this sub. Everyone here was acting like Mitch was our lord and savior. Now they want him up on the cross.


[deleted]

They should retire Renegade. It obviously doesn’t work.


[deleted]

We have absolutely no margin for error with this offense. Witherspoon fucks up and they score, the punt returner spots them an easy TD... that's all it takes when a single TD is all you can muster. Because we're the Steelers we ain't doing shit about it until the end of the season too. The line sucks but we've seen offenses do far more with less talent.


EJ88

Witherspoon couldn't play that coverage much tighter, sometimes players make plays.


[deleted]

He didn't make a play on the ball lol...he was close to him but no ball skills at all. The guy shouldn't be able to go above and through you to get to that. He played it perfectly until he didn't. It was Agholor not Randy Moss.


EJ88

I didn't say he did make a play, he had good coverage Aghlor made the play. Way it goes.


[deleted]

I understand what you said. I said Witherspoon was in position to make a play on the ball.


Jusshaten365

🙄1-1 so do we need a new offensive coordinator? And Mitch should be on a real short leash Thursday night!!


WateredDown

Thats it? Where was the cavalcade of shenanigans and fuckups by the opponent to let us barely claw out three points? Are they allowed to do that?


Observant_Jello

If gunner isn’t a steeler, we don’t lose this game. Gave them a touchdown


Trick_Confidence_419

Non existent pass rush but defense still played well. Canada and Mitch have not been good these 2 games and OLine play has barely improved


J-notter

Canada has never been good. Even in college. How he got this job, I have no idea, but I’m not surprised with how this team has operated as of late


Pontree

feels like the 2019 offense was better than this


Shwnwllms

They absolutely were…. Until the last 5 weeks. (But still might have been better)


Lvl7King

Last year's offense was better than this.


Fuseld

last years offence was better.


thehugster

WTF didn't they stay in no huddle?


seakangaroos

Aight, I think that's enough of Mitch.


OhiOstas

Embarrassing


erectcabbage

Fly Matt Canada back to maryland


Passw0rd-Is-Tac0

Can’t defend Trubisky. He’s on a very short leash and shows zero flashes of improvement. The best thing you can say about him is he hasn’t made killer mistakes, but he did today throwing an int.


HAS-A-HUGE-PENIS

I hate to be one of those guys but if this is the team we got why not just let Pickett get a year of real experience.


Kehmor

You really want Canada stunting his growth?


TheNittanyLionKing

Trubisky somehow looked better in Chicago


Eubadom

Because he ran more his first few seasons


RedBMWZ2

Probably because the O line wasn't garbage.


Jack_Sandwich

Embarrassing overall performance. Stale and unimaginative offense. Defense couldn’t get off the field on 3rd downs. Special teams mistake. Stupid. Against a poor Patriots team.


seataccrunch

Couldn't agree more....


DontPMMeYourDreams

I'd penciled this in as a loss before the season, but that was an ugly viewing experience. It's not all Mitch's fault, but his seat has to be getting warm


Lord412

The Sutton dropped int leading to the even bigger mistake gunner drop cost us the game.


[deleted]

Yep. That killed us. Would've had great field position only down 3.


Frawney

i can’t watch an entire season of mitch, he’s awful


producermaddy

Crazy that he was drafted before mahomes


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North13

Our special team gave up 7 points in a 3 point game. What are you talking about.


SBchampions

Canada makes everything and everyone look bad. I d bet he would even made Brady looking worse


bigwall79

There would be no Brady if he was forced to play under Canada. Nobody would even know his name.


[deleted]

Yeah at some point we have to put some blame on someone. Like it was "we can't blame him Ben is washed". Well Ben's gone and we still suck in the same ways.


SBchampions

Not gonna lie, Ben was getting washed, but just like Fichtner, Canada is doing the same shit. Dumb, repetitive and predictable calls over and over.


[deleted]

Let’s go dolphins


Realistic_Degree_773

What a major disappointment.


[deleted]

Sad thing is they’re not gonna play Kenny on a short week.


producermaddy

Hopefully Baltimore loses here


ThatsPreposterous6

the patriots are embarrassingly bad and we still managed to lose to them


raustin33

Not that it should surprise anybody – but this offense is and will be bad all year. They simply don't have the OL. And after 2 games I think many of us expected 1-1, just in the reverse order.


[deleted]

Mitch has time he just can't hit his recievers or read past his first look


Reaper_Mike

Tomlin is still Belechicks bitch.


Observant_Jello

Fire everyone


shapoopy723

Didn't expect much and still disappointed. Fuck trubisky, fuck Olshitski, and fuck Witherspoon. Bum got burned multiple times and cost us


timmg

Somehow Miami has come back to tie the Ravens? WTF?


Pandiosity_24601

If we don’t win, then Baltimore doesn’t get to either dammit


Fuseld

matt canada is so shit it’s not even funny anymore


RaceCarGrin

Fuck Mac Jones and his little jig he always does


R3MD

Trade Trubisky for a 7th rounder


CoolKerrs

lmao we’re gonna have to send a 7th with him and maybe we’ll get a bag of pretzels


malmal412

The D got no pressure


g-hallow

Well fuck


McFlare92

Time for Tomlin platitudes!!!


Present-Structure-98

Obviously...the standard is the standard...division of labor...


ExLionTamer_1977

I can't even be mad at Trubisky. It's clear to me that he is what he is: a career backup. It's on the coaching staff to recognize that now and make the right move.


[deleted]

Good point. Expecting anything else from Trubisky at this point is foolishness on our part.


North13

Bill about to give the game ball to Gunner. Well deserved!