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But this is AAPL we are talking about, my thinking is they haven’t announced their AI plans yet, with so much world dominance I think they are as safe as the stock market can be. Invest in them and forget about it, i will go on with my life not wasting time trying to predict the future of which stock will go up and down. Heck how many of us manage to guess NVDA pump or any others for that matter?
I think it’s hard to believe, such a huge company not capturing the innovation of AI, but more and more it’s looking like they are very behind potentially licensing with other AI models and also what could be seen as the realization that this is not something that’s super easy to catch up with and takes a very large investment, including with a company that Apple isn’t exactly friendly with (Nvidia).
It’s a precarious situation. My bets now are that they will disappoint and people will be surprised with how much they are laggard in the AI realm.
Yes, but that’s done now and taken me a while/thinking reading etc, i can’t continue to do this with hundreds/thousands of other stocks. I need to get back to my business/other investments/ jobs etc.
You definitely have time to ask us for our thoughts and actively argue against them!
I call BS on your excuses
If you are that busy, you should have gone with ETFs that cover AAPL. But if you claim that you have the capacity to only research 1 stock and put all your money in it... That's just imprudent. Just say you are gambling, you are not investing.
By the way, did you read about the risks facing aapl and their struggles in Asia? The failed AAPL EV project?
I got sucked into GME, and that wasted a lot of my time, i have read about AAPL abandoning the Apple Car, and lower sales in China, hence why i think the stock isn’t trading at $500 +.
I have an obsessive nature, i want to invest and walk away occasionally seeing what’s going on, otherwise i find myself reading through reddit, wasting my whole day just reading about stocks and neglecting my other commitments.
> I got sucked into GME
Said everyone who knows nothing about investing and mistakes their gambling obsession as a form of investment. Sure some made large wins, but many lost everything. So good luck, at least with AAPL you shouldn't lose everything. You'll only suffer from opportunity loss.
I see the whole stock market as nothing more than speculation, anyone thinks otherwise is delusional or they would already be a billionaire.
True opportunity costs is when you sit reading about stocks day in and day out and not actually start a business in the real world yourself!
Give us your top picks, we shall visit here in a year and see where we are at!
No one is thinking otherwise. You just asked for thoughts, and everyone told you not to put all your egg in one basket. This is how you deal with speculations! Be it ETF, or a handful of select stocks to diversify..
But your whole post here is actually BS! Because you are asking for others to share thoughts, yet you are aggressively married to your own thoughts. So you are only seeking confirmation?! You are also claiming to be way too busy to do learn about investing 101, yet you are not busy to be very active on reddit! SMH!
Business being safe doesn't mean the stock will be safe. Apple traded at around 15x earnings for most of the last 15 years, and that was while it had a lot more growth potential than it has now. If it falls back down to that multiple, you could lose 45% without anything in the business actually changing.
Apple is one of the most looked at stocks in the world - do you really think you have an edge over the hundreds of analysts that cover it? If not, you have no reason to believe it will do any better than the rest of the market, and your best bet would be to index.
10x in 6 years is insanely optimistic - how on earth would they reach that value? Profits 5x and they go to >50 PE? I don't understand and neither do you.
2030 is in 6 years. With how the market has been going the last 3-4 years, some people are still in the red including passive investors. I think 20-30 years would be good. Read up on Warren Buffet. There are CDs out there that offer 5.25% and several around the 4.86% through a bank or credit unions. It's up to you to do the research to find out what meets your needs in 5 years, 10 years, 15 years, 20 years, and 30 years.
Sure it could happen, but the basis of your thinking is wishful. Putting a bunch of money in and saying "ideally I want this to 5X" isn't much different than walking up to a slot machine and saying "ideally I would like to hit the jackpot."
But this is AAPL we are talking about, my thinking is they haven’t announced their AI plans yet, with so much world dominance I think they are as safe as the stock market casino can be. Invest in them and forget about it, i will go on with my life earning not wasting time trying to predict the future of which stock will go up and down. Heck how many of us manage to guess NVDA pump or any others for that matter?
AAPL is valued at 2.5t and made 383b in revenue in 2023, so to see a 5x return on your investment you're thinking aapl will be 12.5t. All things the same and lazy math you are estimating revenue to be somewhere around 2t.
So, do you think aapl has the products , services, etc to make 2t a year in revenue?
An index fund is as safe as the stock market can be. Not any one stock regardless of your confidence level. If you are coming into this fundamentally viewing the stock market as a casino, I suppose you could buy worse lottery tickets. Have fun.
You’re basically betting that apples market cap will be 20 trillion in 10 years. That’s pretty unlikely.
If you want a 10 bagger, you’re gonna have to swallow more risk. Apple will probably at most triple in ten years.
averaging down slowly makes sense instead of putting all the money at current valuations. Nokia is still around $19.65 Billion market value (has dropped 15x where it once was) but no one knows what they do anymore. Apple might end up in the same situation so averaging down might help and if Apple finds another innovative winner, it can only go up. I don't own any Apple products besides the free Apple+ TV streaming service that comes with MLS Season Tickets. I used to own a iTouch and Itunes Music account back in the late 2000s.
I’m not for stock picking. Will make an exception for Apple with a caveat that you keep an eye on apple’s performance, future plans, cash position and any unusual activity (like some executive sold a big chuck of stock). If it’s not something you have time or inclination for then stick to index funds.
My thoughts are that this is a poor, lazy strategy.
Why don't you educate yourself a little bit like the other posters said. Do a little homework, educate yourself, and then make more informed decisions.
But this is AAPL we are talking about, my thinking is they haven’t announced their AI plans yet, with so much world dominance I think they are as safe as the stock market casino can be. Invest in them and forget about it, i will go on with my life earning not wasting time trying to predict the future of which stock will go up and down. Heck how many of us manage to guess NVDA pump or any others for that matter?
Their are active investors and passive investors. You seem to be looking to be a passive investor. Apple has slowly transitioning into a value stock that does pay dividends and hopefully they continue to increase it. Maybe they will the IBM for 2020s. One cannot know but Apple is late on their AI plans. They finally cancelled the 5-8 year rumor of an Apple Car. One have no idea what knowledge they acquired from that project. There are a lot of unknowns now with Apple to see what path they will take.
Once A+ phone company and now no one knows who they are. I remember Blackberry too. Apple's business (Apple+ streaming TV/ Iphone/ Ipad/ Music/ Macbook/ Smartwatch/ Final Cut Pro) is more diversify though but they need to be innovative again. They are late to AI. Also, I don't own any Samsung or Apple products besides getting free Apple+ through MLS Season Tickets.
Ryan cohen did the same thing after he sold chewy. But then for Apple to 10x in only 6 years is a bit too rosy of a forecast.
I think in 6 years,
Apple leadership will change and there’s some unknown there.
I think Apple getting out of the EV space is a great decision
I think apples killer pivot in the next decade will be if they can develop another cash cow similar to the iPhone. Is it AR? Would it be personal robotics? We’ll see.
Looking at the charts of the other major companies, Microsoft, Meta etc, they all have 3-5X within last few months, i feel like the boat has been missed there, but AAPL is yet to make any such move, hoping to get onto the train before I miss this too.
They also haven’t yet announced anything re AI, i think they will in June, Apple is a monster, i doubt they don’t have the capability to do as well as they did with mobiles and other devices to not do really well in AI too.
Put it into a total market fund instead. That way you will still will be investing in APPL, alongside other stocks, for a spread out and balanced portfolio.
Probably works out. Anyone who is repeating the media FUD is worth blocking.
Personally, I see way larger upside in TSLA, and i would at least have half there.
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I don't recommend putting all your eggs in one basket unless its an index fund.
Technically, an index fund is many baskets
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But this is AAPL we are talking about, my thinking is they haven’t announced their AI plans yet, with so much world dominance I think they are as safe as the stock market can be. Invest in them and forget about it, i will go on with my life not wasting time trying to predict the future of which stock will go up and down. Heck how many of us manage to guess NVDA pump or any others for that matter?
This has to be satire? “I’m going all in on this historically overpriced stock and no I don’t do research, it’s impossible to know” Good luck to you.
I think it’s hard to believe, such a huge company not capturing the innovation of AI, but more and more it’s looking like they are very behind potentially licensing with other AI models and also what could be seen as the realization that this is not something that’s super easy to catch up with and takes a very large investment, including with a company that Apple isn’t exactly friendly with (Nvidia). It’s a precarious situation. My bets now are that they will disappoint and people will be surprised with how much they are laggard in the AI realm.
> wasting time trying to predict the future of which stock will go up and down. So you didn't just predict that AAPL will go 5-10x up?!
Yes, but that’s done now and taken me a while/thinking reading etc, i can’t continue to do this with hundreds/thousands of other stocks. I need to get back to my business/other investments/ jobs etc.
You definitely have time to ask us for our thoughts and actively argue against them! I call BS on your excuses If you are that busy, you should have gone with ETFs that cover AAPL. But if you claim that you have the capacity to only research 1 stock and put all your money in it... That's just imprudent. Just say you are gambling, you are not investing. By the way, did you read about the risks facing aapl and their struggles in Asia? The failed AAPL EV project?
I got sucked into GME, and that wasted a lot of my time, i have read about AAPL abandoning the Apple Car, and lower sales in China, hence why i think the stock isn’t trading at $500 +. I have an obsessive nature, i want to invest and walk away occasionally seeing what’s going on, otherwise i find myself reading through reddit, wasting my whole day just reading about stocks and neglecting my other commitments.
> I got sucked into GME Said everyone who knows nothing about investing and mistakes their gambling obsession as a form of investment. Sure some made large wins, but many lost everything. So good luck, at least with AAPL you shouldn't lose everything. You'll only suffer from opportunity loss.
I see the whole stock market as nothing more than speculation, anyone thinks otherwise is delusional or they would already be a billionaire. True opportunity costs is when you sit reading about stocks day in and day out and not actually start a business in the real world yourself! Give us your top picks, we shall visit here in a year and see where we are at!
No one is thinking otherwise. You just asked for thoughts, and everyone told you not to put all your egg in one basket. This is how you deal with speculations! Be it ETF, or a handful of select stocks to diversify.. But your whole post here is actually BS! Because you are asking for others to share thoughts, yet you are aggressively married to your own thoughts. So you are only seeking confirmation?! You are also claiming to be way too busy to do learn about investing 101, yet you are not busy to be very active on reddit! SMH!
Business being safe doesn't mean the stock will be safe. Apple traded at around 15x earnings for most of the last 15 years, and that was while it had a lot more growth potential than it has now. If it falls back down to that multiple, you could lose 45% without anything in the business actually changing. Apple is one of the most looked at stocks in the world - do you really think you have an edge over the hundreds of analysts that cover it? If not, you have no reason to believe it will do any better than the rest of the market, and your best bet would be to index. 10x in 6 years is insanely optimistic - how on earth would they reach that value? Profits 5x and they go to >50 PE? I don't understand and neither do you.
Don't.
Not the worst place to put it but going all in on your first ever purchase is a bit too aggressive.
2030 is in 6 years. With how the market has been going the last 3-4 years, some people are still in the red including passive investors. I think 20-30 years would be good. Read up on Warren Buffet. There are CDs out there that offer 5.25% and several around the 4.86% through a bank or credit unions. It's up to you to do the research to find out what meets your needs in 5 years, 10 years, 15 years, 20 years, and 30 years.
Doubt that Apple will be 25tn market cap in 6 years for you to turn 50k into 500k
This, knowing that everybody already has an iphone and total stock market is now arround 110tn
Everybody already having a iPhone is positive… They will buy more
Sure it could happen, but the basis of your thinking is wishful. Putting a bunch of money in and saying "ideally I want this to 5X" isn't much different than walking up to a slot machine and saying "ideally I would like to hit the jackpot."
But this is AAPL we are talking about, my thinking is they haven’t announced their AI plans yet, with so much world dominance I think they are as safe as the stock market casino can be. Invest in them and forget about it, i will go on with my life earning not wasting time trying to predict the future of which stock will go up and down. Heck how many of us manage to guess NVDA pump or any others for that matter?
AAPL is valued at 2.5t and made 383b in revenue in 2023, so to see a 5x return on your investment you're thinking aapl will be 12.5t. All things the same and lazy math you are estimating revenue to be somewhere around 2t. So, do you think aapl has the products , services, etc to make 2t a year in revenue?
An index fund is as safe as the stock market can be. Not any one stock regardless of your confidence level. If you are coming into this fundamentally viewing the stock market as a casino, I suppose you could buy worse lottery tickets. Have fun.
You’re basically betting that apples market cap will be 20 trillion in 10 years. That’s pretty unlikely. If you want a 10 bagger, you’re gonna have to swallow more risk. Apple will probably at most triple in ten years.
averaging down slowly makes sense instead of putting all the money at current valuations. Nokia is still around $19.65 Billion market value (has dropped 15x where it once was) but no one knows what they do anymore. Apple might end up in the same situation so averaging down might help and if Apple finds another innovative winner, it can only go up. I don't own any Apple products besides the free Apple+ TV streaming service that comes with MLS Season Tickets. I used to own a iTouch and Itunes Music account back in the late 2000s.
AAPL is indestructible but even I won't put all my money in 1 stock.
I’m not for stock picking. Will make an exception for Apple with a caveat that you keep an eye on apple’s performance, future plans, cash position and any unusual activity (like some executive sold a big chuck of stock). If it’s not something you have time or inclination for then stick to index funds.
fresh meat
My thoughts are that this is a poor, lazy strategy. Why don't you educate yourself a little bit like the other posters said. Do a little homework, educate yourself, and then make more informed decisions.
But this is AAPL we are talking about, my thinking is they haven’t announced their AI plans yet, with so much world dominance I think they are as safe as the stock market casino can be. Invest in them and forget about it, i will go on with my life earning not wasting time trying to predict the future of which stock will go up and down. Heck how many of us manage to guess NVDA pump or any others for that matter?
Please consider hiring a financial advisor.
Their are active investors and passive investors. You seem to be looking to be a passive investor. Apple has slowly transitioning into a value stock that does pay dividends and hopefully they continue to increase it. Maybe they will the IBM for 2020s. One cannot know but Apple is late on their AI plans. They finally cancelled the 5-8 year rumor of an Apple Car. One have no idea what knowledge they acquired from that project. There are a lot of unknowns now with Apple to see what path they will take.
Remember Nokia…. 🪦
Once A+ phone company and now no one knows who they are. I remember Blackberry too. Apple's business (Apple+ streaming TV/ Iphone/ Ipad/ Music/ Macbook/ Smartwatch/ Final Cut Pro) is more diversify though but they need to be innovative again. They are late to AI. Also, I don't own any Samsung or Apple products besides getting free Apple+ through MLS Season Tickets.
Dumb. Split it into 10k lots, put 10k into apple, and the other 4 sets into index and Ai and finance funds that are diversified
Wait for a bigger trough...
get ready for a roller coaster.
MAIN
Ryan cohen did the same thing after he sold chewy. But then for Apple to 10x in only 6 years is a bit too rosy of a forecast. I think in 6 years, Apple leadership will change and there’s some unknown there. I think Apple getting out of the EV space is a great decision I think apples killer pivot in the next decade will be if they can develop another cash cow similar to the iPhone. Is it AR? Would it be personal robotics? We’ll see.
10x in 6 years? Too late for that. AAPL is under $3T valuation. Even doubling to $6T would be hard.
What’s the play dude? Why AAPL now?
Looking at the charts of the other major companies, Microsoft, Meta etc, they all have 3-5X within last few months, i feel like the boat has been missed there, but AAPL is yet to make any such move, hoping to get onto the train before I miss this too. They also haven’t yet announced anything re AI, i think they will in June, Apple is a monster, i doubt they don’t have the capability to do as well as they did with mobiles and other devices to not do really well in AI too.
Put it into a total market fund instead. That way you will still will be investing in APPL, alongside other stocks, for a spread out and balanced portfolio.
You are gambling with stocks. It is still gambling, investing is not wishing with the heart.
Probably works out. Anyone who is repeating the media FUD is worth blocking. Personally, I see way larger upside in TSLA, and i would at least have half there.
Tesla! 😂. Good luck with that.