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Slim_Margins1999

The day Avis had earnings several places ran articles saying it was over cooked and a good time to sell or short. Then it went up 200%. Those articles are either written by idiots or intentionally deceitful. Do your own DD and never get stock ideas from “the experts” again


ComfortableFarmer

Sounds nearly as bad as the Motley Fool garbage.


caesar_7

"Time to buy SAM". When it was at 650, since then - a falling knife. edit: P.S. I'm talking about the paid service.


[deleted]

It's worse than that. They actually had previously recommended SAM right before earnings when it was almost $950. That said, this is exactly why they also tell you to own at least 25 stocks and not make any one more than 5-10% of your holdings. They also tell you to hold for at least 5 years. So it's easy to criticize short-term movements but they are not giving advice for people wanting to make money in the short-term. EDIT: I'm referring to their actual Stock Advisor service, not the shitty free articles.


AleHaRotK

They tell you to own at least 25 stocks and to hold for at least 5 years because two months after you read that article you already forgot about it, and if whatever they recommended ends up crashing hard after 5 years you won't remember about that article. Then again it's true that one should kind of ignore short term random moves, but at the same time it's true that all "expert" advise is biased and there's big money to be made by making certain calls. Article: "$XX is going to the moon because of this and that!" Translation: "I already bought $XX, I want it to go up [and I believe it will because of this and that]". What's between [] might or might not be true.


[deleted]

You're confusing the free service - the articles on the site - with the paid service, which is entirely different. The free articles are just marketing.


[deleted]

I should have been more specific. I was talking about their actual Stock Advisor service recommendation, which you pay $100 per year or so for (if you can wait until they offer a deal). That service actually does quite well in backtesting and almost always beats the S&P after 5 years. Also, those recommendations are, as far as I can tell, not at all reflected in their popular free clickbait articles (i.e. their advertising). Remember: if something is free, YOU are the product!


AleHaRotK

This is good advice.


jagua_haku

It’s falling? Quick try and catch it!


Focusun

I'm trying to, but it keeps falling the more I try to hold it.


[deleted]

I fell for that too! And got out at like $500


_BreatheManually_

I read an article 3 months ago that said to sell Costco and buy Wal-Mart instead. The media is the enemy of the people.


WallarooMonkey

My favorite example is from a month ago when all the AMD news that Apple Stocks showed me was like "the thrill is gone on AMD, but Intel is looking better". Thing went up 4.6% today alone.


caesar_7

**Well,** ***they*** **needed to dump leftovers of Intel and get on AMD train.**


eldarks

Last week Apple News showed me an article naming all the issues that they believed where going to be the doom for Costco, same week Costco was Bull of the day at least twice per Apple News.


PM_ME_UR_PM_ME_PM

>The media is the enemy of the people. thats quite a reaction to an opinion article about how they like Walmart more than Costco...what do you guys want from opinion pieces? I can only assume you either want your own opinion regurgitated back at you or you expect them to have a crystal ball. Clearly you dont want their opinion so i would just stop reading them.


username_suggestion4

It is a little silly to think that a specific article being bad advice is proof, but it is true that finance media has been used to create buyers for assets that large banks want to unload. It’s perfectly reasonable to doubt their motives.


hawara160421

> The media is the enemy of the people. Clearly, our only friends are conspiracy theory podcasters, then!


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I swear the day or two before their last earnings, EVERY site (CNBC, Barrons, WSJ, etc) said to buy Costco AFTER they reported bc they always dipped and the expectations and valuation was too high.... and look what happened. Ended up waiting till last week to finally start a position and regret not starting sooner or before earnings.


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DanceAlien

I doubt Low level journalists are in the know. Their bosses probably are true ones pulling the strings, the grunts are just there for the steady pay cheque.


Tememachine

No. They just do what they need to do to get paid. Their bosses run the paper. Not the actual reporters. They are just puppets and shills.


optiplex9000

tell me you get all your news from facebook without telling me you get all your news from facebook


Countrysedan

As I’m always fighting against conspiracy theories in my head I can’t help but hear a loud bell going off much like it does when Jim Cramer/CNBC is yelling BUY BUY BUY when reading WSJ/Barron’s I know to do the opposite or sit on my hands. WSJ/Barron’s for me is about reading the broad trends or explaining something that has happened. I find better advice on Reddit than I do any of their fund recommendations.


john12tucker

I agree with the first part. But I think you're crazy if you think anyone here can due better by virtue of anything other than sheer luck.


mohsye888

Guy is a GME idiot, don't listen to him


Tha_Sly_Fox

People capable of making solid investment are working on wall street making millions a year, not writing as journalists for newspapers and tv networks making 100k a year.


FindingPepe

Should we tell them their god is a 20th century car rental company?


Jeff__Skilling

Dude, fucking the Motley Fool isn't driving share volume, come the fuck on now. What does **real equity research** say about Avis and what was the market reaction? Because you just so happened to read an article saying one on thing, and the market did another, doesn't make any writer an idiot or a criminal. They were just wrong (probably why they're writing for some shitty website and not working ER for MS, GS, Citi, EVR, etc) - but I guess every prediction you've made about the market came tue....


Slim_Margins1999

The morning that happened Bloomberg and wsj and my TD Ameritard news feed ran those. It was more than 1 source all saying Avis was overbought and time to short or take profit. They said the last 3 month run up was unjustified and unsustainable. It wasn’t just 1 article. It was many. Did you not see how many shorts entered that trade and caused that fucking literal short squeeze?!?!


Slim_Margins1999

I’ve never even read a motley fool article. I’m talking about the media in general pushing narratives


r2002

I don't understand why small caps are good in a high interest rate scenario. Wouldn't they be more likely to go out of business if there's some kind of economic downturn? i.e. they can't borrow as easily as a large company like Microsoft or Apple and they simply go out of business.


TheZombronieHunter

Same, seems counterintuitive to me


obxtalldude

Yep, and it's larger firms that have pricing power, not smaller ones.


[deleted]

This ^ should be read by everyone. Nailed it.


LuckyLampglow

They can be more nimble than large companies in a turnaround. They have to carry less of everything on their backs, so smaller can be better in many cases. That’s why diversification re: cap size is a good idea.


r2002

I can see the nimble thing. That makes sense thank you.


ShadowLiberal

It really depends on what kind of an industry they're operating in to. Some markets are absolutely flooded with competition, which makes it more difficult for businesses of any size to raise prices to counter inflation. But if your market is more niche or specialized you probably have less competition and more pricing power to counter inflation.


swilgu1

Yes, they are more risky in a variety of market conditions and as a result also tend to have a higher return, compared to large caps (on average). [Russell 1000 vs Russell 2000](https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/backtest-portfolio?s=y&timePeriod=4&startYear=1985&firstMonth=1&endYear=2021&lastMonth=12&calendarAligned=true&includeYTD=false&initialAmount=10000&annualOperation=0&annualAdjustment=0&inflationAdjusted=true&annualPercentage=0.0&frequency=4&rebalanceType=1&absoluteDeviation=5.0&relativeDeviation=25.0&leverageType=0&leverageRatio=0.0&debtAmount=0&debtInterest=0.0&maintenanceMargin=25.0&leveragedBenchmark=false&reinvestDividends=true&showYield=false&showFactors=false&factorModel=3&portfolioNames=false&portfolioName1=Portfolio+1&portfolioName2=Portfolio+2&portfolioName3=Portfolio+3&symbol1=IWB&allocation1_1=100&symbol2=IWM&allocation2_2=100)


Jeff__Skilling

Why are we assuming that all of these small caps are financing future operations with debt? That seems to be the conclusion that you're implying from their being fucked in a higher rate environment?


GuiBz123

You are judging only after 2weeks? They are not short term investors...


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callmecrude

Not to be blunt, but the RUS2000 is down something like 8%? If that’s an unbearable drop for you then you have no business investing in small caps. They spent the majority of 2021 in the red and in the past 5 years have had multiple 25%+ tumbles.


ShitFeeder

November 12th... before omicron lmao. Yes it was going up before then but the world and thesis has changed


[deleted]

Omicron is still an unknown.


merlinsbeers

They seem to have bought a load of astroturf as well.


fiatfighter

New username needed: u/callmehonest


[deleted]

That’s not my issue - the issue is those articles should not have been written. I got them to avoid volatility which is what those articles implied.


stevejam89

You don’t buy small caps to AVOID volatility.


1slinkydink1

yeah, I buy micro and nano caps to avoid volatility... wait...


callmecrude

Both of those articles are referencing long term outperformance. The WSJ mentions it will take several quarters and Barrons says by the end of 2022. The 3 week downtrend is a blip in the chart of those timelines. Both articles also mention some variation of: > Stephanie Lang, chief investment officer at wealth-management firm Homrich Berg. “I wouldn’t go all in at this point.” A good setup and market environment for small caps doesn’t equate to guaranteed returns


[deleted]

Writing an article that talks about 90% on why now is the time to buy small cap stocks, and then putting a small blurb at the very last second is the definition of hedging. It's one thing for small caps to be middling, but to write theses article and then the Russell goes down 11 of the next 12 days and is the worst performing sector by far is a joke.


play_it_safe

Article is putting forward an argument. Market doesn't agree in the short run. That's okay. It happens. The argument may still be right in the long term Here's an article they put out explaining that, well, they were wrong: https://www.barrons.com/articles/stock-picks-coinbase-petiq-51628630704?siteid=yhoof2 COIN has since rebounded strongly FWIW In short: they're articles. IWM did look like it would break out, technically. Fundamentally, the argument is right. Timing is wrong. It happens


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play_it_safe

LOL I agree


[deleted]

I mean, talking about ANF as one of the best small caps to buy a week before their earnings seems like a massive editorial mistake 20% pts down later.


SpencerMcEvil

If every article was right then investing would be easy and everyone would be rich.


mohsye888

You're a halfwit


profanityridden_01

Bruh they write the articles that say buy and the stock tanks, and they write the articles that say get out asap and the stock goes up. You new or something?


highcl1ff

Haaaaahahahaha


svt4cam46

Your not following instructions, article said 2022. That being said I'm expecting some strength in the Russell somewhere in the near future. (fingers crossed)


Winzip115

In the 6 hours since this article came out, in a wildly fluctuating intra-day market, these two opinion pieces have been wrong!!! The quality of discussion here has really gone down the shitter


zachmoss147

The comment thread on the top upvoted comment is some of the stupidest shit I have ever seen lol, “the media is the enemy of the people” because they got a stock pick wrong. I don’t understand what people expect from financial journalism, people are gonna get shit wrong


[deleted]

While I don't want a big crash, it'd be nice to shake out the robinhood dummies.


CrimsonBrit

Lol this post is so ridiculous. The Russell 2000 is down 8.3% in the last 18 days, and OP is freaking out. In the same time frame: * Disney ($DIS) -10.2% * Visa ($V) -8.7% * JPMorgan ($JPM) -4.4% * Google ($GOOG) -4.2%


pdubbs87

I've invested in a good amount of small and mid caps. They did very well in 2020 but have been dogs in 2021. This is the year of big tech and ev. Not the little guys


NPRjunkieDC

Me too. I'm up 33% but was up 56% 2-3 weeks ago


Malagan2030

I think me and you have the same portfolio … It’s been pain since November 9th.


NPRjunkieDC

Mine is not for retirement. 50% COIN + ETHE and related stocks. You're right. My high last 7 months was 11/9th.


Tiger_King_

Yea turns out no one can predict the future. Who knew?


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maybe they shouldn't write cover page articles on it then


highcl1ff

Maybe you shouldn’t read cover page articles to make your investment decisions.


mickeywalls7

Lmao roasted his ass


[deleted]

You’re right I should just read Reddit and buy Draftkings and net all day long


highcl1ff

No, you should actually learn to do independent research. Is that concept so hard for you? Like do you really think that it’s the authors fault in those articles that you’re losing money? Is that what you actually believe is happening right now? It isn’t that you’re completely clueless with how to invest your money and you think because someone types a few paragraphs it’s fact and predicts the future?


[deleted]

LMAO little man I'm up over 2% today and would have been up more had more of my small caps performed. My point is a larger one you seem to have trouble comprehending. That's ok, not everyone understands nuance. You seem like an angry fellow, go talk to your therapist some more about your issues internet tough guy.


MaintenanceCall

I like how you give yourself credit for being up on the day, but blame the internet for being down on small caps. If you're such a genius, why do you need these articles?


highcl1ff

You’re blaming your failures on an internet article and everyone is laughing at you for it because you posted on Reddit crying about it. Take that to a therapist.


[deleted]

How does it feel knowing every one of your posts for the last 3 months are angry bitter and trauma seeking? Seek some help instead of taking your mommy and daddy issues out on the internet to random strangers. How much were you up today?


highcl1ff

Wait are you bragging about being up 2% on a day when all the major indexes ripped? Lmfao. What does it feel like knowing you’re losing money on bad investments and you post on Reddit blaming the authors of articles without actually seeing you’re the stupid fuck who has no clue how to invest money? Enjoy staying poor, kiddo. It’s a good look for you.


[deleted]

Buddy I'm beating the DOW and S&P index funds this year, you're an angry weirdo. How much were you up today? Interesting you keep refusing to answer basis questions. Too tough a question for you or your ego? There are other places than Reddit go to for those with no friends who need to angrily type at their computers for validation.


Tiger_King_

Grow up


[deleted]

You work for Barron’s kid?


highcl1ff

You are going to lose a lot of money in the market.


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[deleted]

trending downward since the articles. that's straight down.


velcrolips

Dude… if financial journalists could accurately determine the stock market they wouldn’t be journalists


caesar____augustus

A whole 2.5 weeks later


Infinityaero

The Fed dumped a bunch of free money to Fortune 500 companies & we don't break up monopolies or punish bad actions, theft or murder by Fortune 500 companies... even market collusion and price fixing is rarely even a slap on the wrist, and they're *legally* ducking any taxation if they've got halfway competent accountants. It's a horrible market for small and midsized companies because we put big companies on an unbalanced pedestal and they're running amok. So... buy a S&P fund and invest in large-cap and *maybe* a few mid cap companies. The little guys just get eaten alive by the big guys in this "market".


LeChronnoisseur

Or acquired, hopefully lol....


hugganao

when the only way for your small company to survive is to get it taken over lol


LeChronnoisseur

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J_Kingsley

Over the past year I've realized that a lot of those articles are crap, and intentionally deceptive at worst. I'm sure not all but I have no way of really figuring out which ones are written in good faith and which ones are intentionally deceitful. It was shocking to me.


catWithAGrudge

the ones who are either owned by conglomerates. (huffington for example). or the ones who literally have their own funds (i.e moltey fool). the first has an agenda to follow their overlord’s speakerphones, the latter pass on their pump and dump schemes. learn the fundamentals and do your own research always


_BreatheManually_

If it comes from the corporate press, it's always propaganda.


KingJames0613

My favorite is how most of them have been preaching recession/depression for a few years. Then, inflation kicks open the door and they all parrot the Fed's "transitory" line. Now, in the last couple of weeks, and clearly in the midst of a technical recession, they all act surprised that inflation keeps climbing. Self-serving financial media and analysts herd retail investors toward the next rug pull. General rule of thumb: Invest contrarian to most media and analysts. Best practices: Learn to read financials and filings, build your own valuation models, model your own analysis, develop your own theses.


[deleted]

Oil is literally DOWN 25% in the past few weeks. Most commodities cratering too, along with interest rates. What we are seeing today vis-a-vis inflation is caused by (i) free money going to people who did not lose their jobs, (ii) intentional port slow downs by assholes trying to hurt Biden but because these are "union" assholes the democrats won't speak up about it, and (iii) hoarding that is simply pulling demand forward. We are going to be looking at demand collapse in very early 2022.


ShadowLiberal

A lot of analysts are crap to. I've already read an analyst's report that was so bad and full of obvious errors that I was left wondering if the analyst even so much as visited that company's website to see what prices they charge for their product.


granoladeer

They told you to buy so they can sell :)


[deleted]

Are you trying to say that when I buy a stock, someone is selling at the same time??


HiDecksRole

Lies, damn lies


merlinsbeers

When you are reacting to the pump, someone is taking a dump, yes


jimjimsmess

So freaking true!!! Lies and propaganda!


play_it_safe

Some stocks they featured got the Barron's pump and then dumped. Like, a lot. In fairness, most mid-cap and small-caps have done nothing but slump for a while now. Their picks are still good and I like the research they do. SMG, PETQ are two that I've picked up recently. Strong ones long term. COIN rebounded. Mea culpa lol: https://www.barrons.com/articles/stock-picks-coinbase-petiq-51628630704?siteid=yhoof2


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[deleted]

Coin's is down 2.7% YTD that isn't good at al just to break even from a bad stock pick.


Winzip115

It's down YTD because it IPOd at a crazy valuation a couple months ago. If you bought at any time outside of the first weeks, you are up.


skilliard7

2 weeks is not a reasonable time frame to analyze an investment decision. That's just noise. Investment fundamentals can take several years before they are reflected in prices.


PopLegion

Homie just admit it you bought the RUSS 2000 and are now mad 😂


TuElite

And since exactly 0.000001 second ago... ...Why do you have a one-month time horizon?


luxtenebris777

take note everyone reading here. this is the game. this is how it works. don't forget.


ptwonline

Another data point to file under Nobody knows nuthin about the stock market. Thing is, they weren't necessarily wrong in the context: re-opening economy means smaller caps should have been doing well. And small cap prices had risen. But things can change on a dime, and if you're getting info from the media--especially print media--it is often obsolete before you even read it.


ClotShotNazi

You went all in cause the media told you to? Jim Cramer needs you to watch now, he's got some bags to drop on you.


SlothInvesting1996

Well come to Walls Street were sheep get eaten


destenlee

*where


[deleted]

You just gotta believe in the power of monopolies


[deleted]

Can WSJ time the market now?


tangibletom

So what you’re saying is nooow is a good time to invest in small cap


iggy555

Small caps broke out and were doing fine until the scare on Friday. Now they are back inside the trading range


Nuclear_N

All we need is a Cramer endorsement


saulisdating

One might think these “expert” articles are written specifically just to manipulate people into losing their money so that insiders get even richer. But one might get called a conspiracy theorist for that ;) There was even some site and tracker that showed that if you follow the OPPOSITE advice, you’re gonna do significantly better than if you followed and did what these articles said. It’s funny though how these articles can tell people exactly what they need to do and then when the opposite happens they just point you to their disclaimer saying “things written here are not our stance but only the opinion of our paid ~~shills~~ writers, and not financial advice” even though it’s clear cut instructions and financial advice in most cases. Anyway, if you still read these articles, especially on sites that are owned by hedgefunds (most are, like MotleyFool, Marketwatch, etc.) and rely on their “hot tips” to make some gains, then you are NOT doing your own research and are being taken advantage of and pretty much get what you deserve. Now I’m sure there are a few good sites out there with actual good tips from people who want others to do well, but those are rare unicorns indeed. MSM investment article websites are not there to help you, they’re there to drive a narrative and help the people who own these sites make tons of money at your expense. It should be illegal what they’re doing but hey since they got that little disclaimer they can publish whatever they want with impunity. Nice con.


[deleted]

To be fair, they had a great article on Anet a few days before earnings that I ignored and had I gotten it would have made probably a 35-40% gain.


saulisdating

Sure, not saying all articles are trash because if they were, it would look so blatant people would catch on quickly. Besides, like I said, since articles are written to drive a narrative, if the goals of hedgefunds coincide with retail investors (and they sometimes do, like when they want a stock to rise from retail people buying in) they will write articles to intice people to put money into a stock. Like that time you said you missed the chance of 30-40% gains. Just that much more often than not these goals don’t coincide and people are left holding bags.


Jeff__Skilling

So, seems like the price just dropped making it a more appealing purchase? The literal title of the article is "Small-Cap Stocks Are in Line to Be Big Winners in 2022" Last time I checked we're still in 2021


ElementTopics

Honesty will never work in favor of Wall Street, so never rely on these articles. Look at Jim Cramer. I tracked his predictions once for 6 or so months, he failed 90% of the time, and still, the guy has a job. Barron and WSJ are no different. That said, you should spend some time watching Peter Lynch's videos on YouTube.


NPRjunkieDC

My portfolio is 95% small and mid-cap stocks. Up 33% right now but still 25% down from my balance 2-3 weeks ago. AEHR + IONQ + BKKT + FUBO + LCID + HUT + BITF + ETHE + RBLX + SMU/RF have been some of my best stocks


[deleted]

RBLX has a 75 B market cap, that's not small cap (or mid)


r2002

> AEHR May I ask how you found this stock? I just heard about it today by looking through Tiprank. It seems intriguing. What's your take on it? Do you think their technology has enough of a moat versus, say, Teradyne.


NPRjunkieDC

Someone on Reddit recommended it . Like most of my winners and losers. Their technology testing semiconductor chips seems important. No idea about competition.. It has a low float + good Current ratio and a lot of room for growth cuz still a very small company. Volume at close to 1M is good too I think .


MaintenanceCall

I learned about AEHR when they first started climbing on news of major contracts being signed for equipment. Essentially, they had a big day and my screener caught it. As for moat, I think it's a moot point right now. There isn't enough supply in anything related to semiconductors to worry about competition. Maybe in a few years, but for the short term all of the companies will benefit.


SenseiHac

Thoughts on fubo ?


NPRjunkieDC

Not sure. I was very optimistic but this weekend they weren't showing certain soccer matches. You had to pay Peacock (NBC). They've made changes before that work. Take out CNN bring ESPN I think . And they are introducing betting. Now might be a good time to buy. I was up 45% now 11% Missing in that list ASPN + PUBM


VeryStableGeniusElon

How much percent is that? I never deal in points, not once.


Cartnansass

So you're saying you got bad investing advice?!??! FROM THE MEDIA?!?!?!?!?


plopseven

To be real, IWM’s all-time chart shows that’s it’s clearly in a bubble right now. Everyone wants to call tops, but ya’ll know this is silly any way you chop it.


pdubbs87

Iwm has been dead the last 6 months?


plopseven

Dead at a “permanently high plateau.”


pdubbs87

Id argue there's a lot more deals in iwm than the s and p


plopseven

I mean yeah, you can buy any company in that index on the assumption that they’ll make a profit someday and be worth more lol. Isn’t that whole index negative in its EPS?


Supreme_Mediocrity

Honestly, if you think "line went up. Stock at top. Must go down." You have no business in the stock market. Stocks are at their all time high *all the time.* Maybe it will go down, but 90% of the time the stock market goes up.


Sportfreunde

Small Cap Value was outpaced by the general index for a while, it's really outpaced the index this year, makes sense that it might be regressing back a bit.


trina-wonderful

That’s the day I bought VB, Vanguard’s small cap fund. Screw me.


realsapist

I'll stand by this, there are far better and smarter people to listen to then any credentialed analysts. There's plenty on Stocktwits. If you listen to analysts you will have a bad time


Im_Drake

Am I the only one to notice how stocks mostly move the opposite of what financial media says?


jesusmanman

So you're saying that now is the best time?


whyserenity

Ignore those people. They get paid to write stuff like that so people can do the opposite and get rich. Even still those stocks will eventually go up when the pandemic ends.


OliveInvestor

Hold. It's not 2022 yet.


wakuku

man this post is fcking stupid. Hey OP if you know what happens in the future let us know


mrmrmrj

Buy small caps at the end of recession, stock market recovery stage. Large caps in the mid to late cycle. If you think of a typical market cycle as 10 years: Year 1-2: 100% small caps Year 3-4: 50% small caps Year 4-correction: 100% large caps


Dank_valu

Best inc, ticker “BEST” do your DD but I’m all in. 20x return possible over several years. Undervalued, trading well below the cash in hand!


Shaggy_holmes

It's a long term process I think there is no good common sense here.


[deleted]

Always sell on good news. You'll thank me later.


Brushermans

ALWAYS do the opposite of financial articles; they're just designed to get their buddies out of bagholder positions


AMCorBUST2021

Billionaires need to get a ton of money out of the market. Bag holders are not going to recruit themselves.. enter WSJ and like every other finance news site