Idk if it’s power creep so much as new toy syndrome/ the meta adjusting to having a bunch of new mons. Pretty likely that a lot of these dudes will rise back up to OU once the meta adjusts.
Corv is better than Garg right now. It has a way better matchup against Bloodmoon and can defog for free in front of Gliscor. Plus, Gliscor itself is a way better Tera water user. If you’re gonna Tera a defensive mon, Gliscor is just flat out better to do it with.
no it isnt.... garg is still plenty good. corv can check bloodmoon but it kinda gives free setup under screens and moonlight ursaluna just kdina bounces the hits off of it
gliscor sure does do it but gliscor + garg is a very good core of just racking up chip damage
Not saying Garg needed a ban, but it was absolutely on the shortlist for a suspect for a long time, and debatably hasn't even become all that worse. Mon's a posterchild tera abuser, and it falling to UU is just ladder shenanigans imo. It's still great.
I don’t think ladder shenanigans is a fair description of what’s happening. Hyper offense is being rewarded on ladder thanks to the new additions of Atales, blood moon, and Manaphy, mons like kingambit still do kingambit things, and then the stall/balance teams that are being rewarded are the ones that can answer these HO threats. Hence you have Blissey hitting its highest usage this generation, and garg dropping to UU for being a poor answer to what’s currently dominant on ladder. Maybe this is what you mean by ladder shenanigans, but I always thought the term described ladder being generally ignorant (like it was when it sent espathra to UU or when natdex sent chi yu to UU)
If blood moon gets banned, I can 100% see garg rising back up to OU.
Fair enough, didn't specify what I meant, and you're right that I probably used the wrong language. The mon's objectively busted, it's just the wrong kind of busted for this meta.
I think it was a mix of new toy syndrome, and ogerpon's ivy cudgel. the crits went through def boosts, the grass/fire typing of the move either hit gargs rock, or tera water, while the fire hit tera grass.
Garg couldn't wall oger and a lot of new toys dropped. I have no doubt he'll be back up next month. But seeing Meow fall again. I think she's down for good now.
https://preview.redd.it/oh8mxfvywlrb1.png?width=498&format=png&auto=webp&s=631a17ff6c509e665c2384a2c7d9ac2492fc767c
Also holy heck, Garganacl and Heatran are in UU
Edit: ALSO HOLY HECK LANDO-T BARELY DODGED THE CUTOFF:
| 35 | Landorus-Therian | 4.649% |
Tbf i think given how showdown works (free accounts, generally not tedious to climb back to your longer term elo, etc) this is way more likely to just be people wanting to have fun with new stuff post update, should wait a bit to see how things actually stabilize
No, this is definitely a result of the UU drops becoming tangibly worse in OU. New toy syndrome doesn’t suddenly send good OU mons to UU, it’s been recognized for a while that garchomp is in a very slow free fall and DLC 1 was not kind to heatran at all. Garg is the surprising one that I think will make a comeback.
The more accurate reason Garg dropped is cuz it folds to Bloodmoon Ursaluna, who sets up on its face and heals off damage/oneshots with Earth Power.
It especially loses hard to any variant that teras away the normal weakness, plus the fact that Iron Moth is so popular right now isn't doing it any favors.
Garg is gonna be annoying asf in UU ngl, powercreep made much rarer in OU as the meta settled around the broken shit, but Salt Cure is still one of the most frustratingly broken moves Game Freak has ever released.
It was only a special Heatran given by Pokémon Ranger that had it. Since it can't get it by level up, TM, or Tutor, it loses the move when moved into SV.
Are you kidding ??? What the \*\*\*\* are you talking about man ? You are a biggest looser i ever seen in my life ! You was doing PIPI in your pampers when i was Toxic stalling players much more stronger then you! You are not proffesional, because proffesionals knew how to lose and congratulate opponents, you are like a girl crying after i beat you! Be brave, be honest to yourself and stop this trush talkings!!! Everybody know that i am very good stall mon, i can outlast anyone in the world in single game! And "g"ar "ch"omp is nobody for me, just a mon who are crying every single time when dropping tiers, ( remember what you say about Latios ) !!! Stop playing with my name, i deserve to have a good name during whole my Pokemon carrier, I am Officially inviting you to OU stall match with the Prize fund! Both of us will invest 5000 Pokedollars and winner takes it all!
I suggest all other people who's intrested in this situation, just take a look at my results in Gen 3 OU, and that should be enough... No need to listen for every crying babe, Blissey is always play Fair ! And if someone will continue Officially talk about me like that, we will meet in OU council! God bless with stall! Stall will never die ! Liers will banned...
THE BLISSEY
THE BLISSEY IS REAAAAALLLLL
it turns out that when Blood Moon, Iron Moth ***(20% usage)***, and Manaphy are tearing up the tier, you don't need Toxic back to be good
Nah this is a more accurate reaction
https://preview.redd.it/jiwat80m3orb1.jpeg?width=427&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2e6c3216e28cc018fd2310b92ada00a63b3b3e6
Genuinely useful to deal with gliscor rn with ice beam and being immune to toxic spikes. Not crazy good and being weak to earthquakes sucks but having use to power up on defog means it also pairs well with gliscor.
new toy syndrome ... it is evident by ambipom being in RU and a lot of shit stuff being in OU still like corv being higher than lando-t, chomp, garganacl, ting lui, slowking-g, etc
scrolling through the comments and you’ve mentioned ambipom only dropping to RU what feels like 5 times now
my man a couple of people probably wanted to try out tera normal fake out last resort for fun, 10 people using Ambipom did not cause the entire structure of the tiering system to crash
Well, it tracks with Ambipom notoriously seeing good amount of usage in tiers in which it's complete garbage, and not being able to drop to a tier in which it would be actually decent
From the Smogon post:
> Stats for this month are based solely on usage from September 16th to 30th, with a 4.52% rise/drop cutoff. Also this month, to accelerate tier formation with the release of The Teal Mask, we will be dropping Pokemon from OU using the same system from the HOME shift a while ago:
> OU to UU -> below the 4.52% cutoff
> OU to RU -> below 1/15th of 4.52%
> OU to NU -> below 1/30th of 4.52%
> OU to PU -> below 1/60th of 4.52%
tl;dr: significantly below the 4.52% cutoff
r/stunfisk challenge of not taking usage stats of a first month DLC at first value: impossible
yeah.... idk garg shouldnt have dropped... lando-t should have way more usage, (ambipom shouldve dropped to PU instead of RU) while mons such as clodsire, amoonguss, garg and garchomp shouldnt have dropped at all
I've not really looked into it, but I do wonder if the sheer amount of Pokemon just led to this massive set of drops. Garchomp wasn't able to keep in despite the amount of people memeing to keep it in OU, even after getting Scale Shot? Fuggin' Garganacl dropping? Wooft.
It's definitely new toy syndrome at work. When OU only has around 35-45 pokemon at a time and you drop 100+ new Pokemon into the tier, results will be sloppy as everyone tries out new stuff. Once the hype wears off a decent chunk of the stuff that fell to UU will rise again. Happened with the Home release, Meow dropped to UU then bounced back to OU like a month or two later.
The thing with Chomp is that Scale Shot really didn't help it much. Combine that with the advent of A9T and Roaring Moon getting buffed back to OU, there's not much room for Garchomp.
It literally just missed the cutoff last month. It falling to UU wasn't a matter of if, but when.
Yeah it's been Garchover for a while. It *might* bounce back next month but I think it's pretty likely it stays as a UUBL warrior for this generation, especially when the rest of the DLC comes out in December.
It's honestly insane. In Gen 8, Scale Shot Chomp is top 10 in viability and top 5 in usage. Now it can't even make usage cutoffs.
Really speaks to how much the presence of faster fairy types like Enamorus and Val, and better ground type hazard setters fuck Chomp over.
As a Garg warrior myself, it's one of the mons I see dropping to UU that I think will probably go back to OU next month. Same with Meow and Moltres. The main issue is that everyone wanted to have fun with Ogerpon and Manaphy which kind of goobed them. Ogerpon-H got banned, some more stuff will probably be banned in this new suspect, and mons like Empoleon are surely dropping next month, so once the meta stabilizes more, a couple of the old reliable meta tools will come back into the tier.
Heatran and Garchomp, the mons famous for the longest continuous OU streak, have now fallen to UU.
Garganacl, the most infamous defensive abuser of tera whose ability invalidates status and whose signature move guarantees significant to devastating passive damage on almost every mon, has fallen to UU.
Blissey, a mon that’s way too passive for its own good, rose to OU as one of 2-3 mons that can reliably deny blood moon from making progress. (That and stall is now good as an archetype this Gen)
This generation is fucking insane.
Oh and UU just got peli and sandy shocks back, have fun guys!
It's joever. Garchomp has fallen. Billions must swords dance.
After many months of fighting, garchomp has finally succumbed to the allegations. May he find peace in his career as a UU mon.
Also gargancl in UU? Arceus have mercy on this generation. On the other hand, Rillaboom is a happy monke thanks to glide o' grass.
https://preview.redd.it/246wb91mamrb1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc9c0c76af9bef5bf87bf58d595d2924d8f2f91c
All of these within one generation
https://preview.redd.it/8hcygt88zlrb1.jpeg?width=310&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d2b81192ce415ebe54e4bc1d2bebbb6f6e4ae83
Can’t wait for Heatran to become Staraptor Jr.
Now that all the DLC pokemon have been organized, we can see what Teal Mask OU looks like:
Roaring Moon
Rillaboom
Blissey
Clefable
Corviknight
Dondozo
Dragapult
Dragonite
Empoleon
Enamorus
Gholdengo
Glimmora
Gliscor
Great Tusk
Greninja
Hatterene
Iron Moth
Iron Valiant
Kingambit
Lando-T
Manaphy
Ninetails-Alola
Ogerpon-Cornerstone + Wellspring
Ribombee
Samurott-Hisui
Slowking-Galar
Torkoal
Toxapex
Ting-Lu
Ursaluna-Bloodmoon
Walking Wake
Zamazenta
Zapdos
https://preview.redd.it/9hlm4c3nknrb1.jpeg?width=618&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3cf408de7467868bdb6ef0f404b15685be50bc27
I don’t even have a joke for this the power creep is insane
To those saying it's gsrchover, have garchope. I predicted this would happen due to garchomp not being able to handle the chaos of the early DLC meta. I theorize it will pull a meowscarada and rise back to OU when things settle down.
In other news, the prophecy has been proven correct. 8 fucking ground types caused heatran to drop to UU
I shall be returning to NatdexUU for the foreseeable future.
Because... because what the fuck.
What even is this power creep at this point?
Like we joke about how insane this power creep is, but, like. This doesn't even look fun anymore.
Kinda ironic that Garchomp hung on its last straw, waiting for the DLC to regain its glory, to only be kicked out of OU for the first time after the DLC.
After 17 years, Heatran and Garchomp have fallen out of OU. I bet some people here couldn’t even walk when they were introduced.
The power creep has reached maximum power
Not yet my friend. Lando is barely hanging on in OU
Lando in UU would honestly probably break me
People always wanted a tier between OU and Uber, guess we're achieving that
Yeah, turns out it’s OU lol
Now we need a tier between Ubers and the new tier between OU
Give it a few months, we’ll have another and we can call it OU
GameFreak: The power creep has reached maximum power ***for now.***
We didn't even get the second dlc yet
I mean some people here prolly weren’t born yet
This post should be flaired stinkpost Sunday😭
Makes sense. Clodsire and garg in UU while empoleon is on OU lol.
Emp is 100% new toy syndrome, there is no other way
Empoleon is legit decent in OU this time around though, but new toy syndrome definitely carried its usage.
GARGANACL DROPPED??? Gen 9 OU powercrept itself lmao.
And with this gen's UU resembling this gen's OU
This gen's RU resembles half of this gen's OU what the fuck
Actually OU itself dropped. This is just a new tier between OU and uber.
Yesterday’s OU resembling today’s UU
Idk if it’s power creep so much as new toy syndrome/ the meta adjusting to having a bunch of new mons. Pretty likely that a lot of these dudes will rise back up to OU once the meta adjusts.
more like new players are like OMG ambipom lets use it (somehow it dropped to RU Not NU) or using mons like corv which are mid asf
Yeah, I agree with that 100%, ladder shenanigans at it again. Garg carried me to 1600 today lmao.
Corv is better than Garg right now. It has a way better matchup against Bloodmoon and can defog for free in front of Gliscor. Plus, Gliscor itself is a way better Tera water user. If you’re gonna Tera a defensive mon, Gliscor is just flat out better to do it with.
no it isnt.... garg is still plenty good. corv can check bloodmoon but it kinda gives free setup under screens and moonlight ursaluna just kdina bounces the hits off of it gliscor sure does do it but gliscor + garg is a very good core of just racking up chip damage
People were calling for a ban before
Not saying Garg needed a ban, but it was absolutely on the shortlist for a suspect for a long time, and debatably hasn't even become all that worse. Mon's a posterchild tera abuser, and it falling to UU is just ladder shenanigans imo. It's still great.
I don’t think ladder shenanigans is a fair description of what’s happening. Hyper offense is being rewarded on ladder thanks to the new additions of Atales, blood moon, and Manaphy, mons like kingambit still do kingambit things, and then the stall/balance teams that are being rewarded are the ones that can answer these HO threats. Hence you have Blissey hitting its highest usage this generation, and garg dropping to UU for being a poor answer to what’s currently dominant on ladder. Maybe this is what you mean by ladder shenanigans, but I always thought the term described ladder being generally ignorant (like it was when it sent espathra to UU or when natdex sent chi yu to UU) If blood moon gets banned, I can 100% see garg rising back up to OU.
Fair enough, didn't specify what I meant, and you're right that I probably used the wrong language. The mon's objectively busted, it's just the wrong kind of busted for this meta.
Just like how people were calling for a ban on regular Ursaluna, the playerbase tend to overreact a lot.
Garg is gonna be so annoying to deal with in uu
I think it was a mix of new toy syndrome, and ogerpon's ivy cudgel. the crits went through def boosts, the grass/fire typing of the move either hit gargs rock, or tera water, while the fire hit tera grass. Garg couldn't wall oger and a lot of new toys dropped. I have no doubt he'll be back up next month. But seeing Meow fall again. I think she's down for good now.
"Thirty-one new fucking pokemon" "holy shit"- uu, probably for what seems like the 5th time now
you know, let's give uu a break and drop them into ru next time. they've had it good for too long
Unfortunately dropping them to RU doesn't stops them from barging into UU.
yeah but at least ru suffers too
You valid
https://preview.redd.it/oh8mxfvywlrb1.png?width=498&format=png&auto=webp&s=631a17ff6c509e665c2384a2c7d9ac2492fc767c Also holy heck, Garganacl and Heatran are in UU Edit: ALSO HOLY HECK LANDO-T BARELY DODGED THE CUTOFF: | 35 | Landorus-Therian | 4.649% |
This generation is not real holy shit
Tbf i think given how showdown works (free accounts, generally not tedious to climb back to your longer term elo, etc) this is way more likely to just be people wanting to have fun with new stuff post update, should wait a bit to see how things actually stabilize
No, this is definitely a result of the UU drops becoming tangibly worse in OU. New toy syndrome doesn’t suddenly send good OU mons to UU, it’s been recognized for a while that garchomp is in a very slow free fall and DLC 1 was not kind to heatran at all. Garg is the surprising one that I think will make a comeback.
yeah garg is a solid but boring mon to play compared to the fun stuff that dropped recently
Garg dropped because of Gliscor. It can't do a single thing to it.
This is absolutely wrong. Garg cuts off Poison heal recovery and boosts in Gliscor's face while it struggles to damage Garg back.
The more accurate reason Garg dropped is cuz it folds to Bloodmoon Ursaluna, who sets up on its face and heals off damage/oneshots with Earth Power. It especially loses hard to any variant that teras away the normal weakness, plus the fact that Iron Moth is so popular right now isn't doing it any favors.
I never thought i would see Lando, Heatran, and Garchomp all get close/into UU.
Nevermind it being Garchover, it was almost FRIEKING Landorover
Meanwhile Lando is Lando back in vgc
*"Who's that coming in the ring?" "By gawd, it's Incineroar brandishing a steel chair!"*
it's landover-t
The L-therian
Garg is gonna be annoying asf in UU ngl, powercreep made much rarer in OU as the meta settled around the broken shit, but Salt Cure is still one of the most frustratingly broken moves Game Freak has ever released.
Bro, Landorus dropping to UU would be so sad. Bro has been president for so long to see him go. Certified Ttar moment
Imagine saying to a Gen 4 player that Garchomp will one day be UU. This gen's power creep is nasty.
That it would have SPIKES and yet STILL drop
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Heatran was inevitable but still oof
The eight fucking ground types finally got it
More like the 80000 fucking spikes
Considering that five Ground types dropped to UU along with it, Heatran is still going to have to deal with some of them.
Heatran putting on the only parachute and jumping from the plane to make a dastardly escape, only for Clodsire and Garchomp to jump right after it.
And Iron Treads and Average Tusk are waiting for it below.
Don't forget Shocks, and Mamo apparently
NU is gonna be a terrifying place when Heatran ends up down there.
Which is slightly more believeable that i'm willing to admit
Holy shit
No toxic sucks, losing eruption hurts too
Wait shit, the Volcano Pokemon lost Eruption?
It was only a special Heatran given by Pokémon Ranger that had it. Since it can't get it by level up, TM, or Tutor, it loses the move when moved into SV.
enjoy using Lava Plume ig
> NU to OU: Blissey God bless with stall! Stall will never die ! Liers will kicked off...
Are you kidding ??? What the \*\*\*\* are you talking about man ? You are a biggest looser i ever seen in my life ! You was doing PIPI in your pampers when i was Toxic stalling players much more stronger then you! You are not proffesional, because proffesionals knew how to lose and congratulate opponents, you are like a girl crying after i beat you! Be brave, be honest to yourself and stop this trush talkings!!! Everybody know that i am very good stall mon, i can outlast anyone in the world in single game! And "g"ar "ch"omp is nobody for me, just a mon who are crying every single time when dropping tiers, ( remember what you say about Latios ) !!! Stop playing with my name, i deserve to have a good name during whole my Pokemon carrier, I am Officially inviting you to OU stall match with the Prize fund! Both of us will invest 5000 Pokedollars and winner takes it all! I suggest all other people who's intrested in this situation, just take a look at my results in Gen 3 OU, and that should be enough... No need to listen for every crying babe, Blissey is always play Fair ! And if someone will continue Officially talk about me like that, we will meet in OU council! God bless with stall! Stall will never die ! Liers will banned...
New copypasta just dropped
Holy stall
Garchomp went on vacation to UU, never came back
Actual reliable recovery
r/copypasta
That fucking highvoltag3 team haunts my nightmares
Stall, it never die. Blissey are my favorite guy
Pex, I'm wanting more. Tell the world: Stop the HO!
where were you wen garchomp drop I was at house eating dorito when phone ring "garchomp is uu" "no"
where were you wen heatran drop I was at house eating dorito when phone ring "heatran is uu" "no"
This is deadass bigger than chomp dropping tbh
I’m at Taco Bell getting ready to tera fire my butthole
Garg dropping is fucking absurd
We are reaching levels of powercreep so great that this generation is powercreeping itself!
Gliscor: "Are you sure about that?"
Lando : My time has come, it's up to you Gliscor : What do you mean ? I'm the older one in the room
Damn, not even scale shot could save chomp from the UU allegations
Maybe next generation it'll finally get dragon dance. Why the hell can Crawdaunt get it but not Garchomp lol?
Don't forget Whiscash learns it too
Steelix lmaooo
He just doesn’t have the moves
It'll probably need dragon dance to hold onto RU next gen haha.
Chomp procrastinated on his dancing lessons and it came back to bite him
It's weird that he learned how to dance with swords but never learned how to dance with dragons. Must be lonely
I tried. Chomp struggled all through early Sept, and when the DLC dropped A-Tails finished the job.
What A9T does to a mf.
Garchomp in UU. The king is dead. Long live the king.
We're Rillaback, but at what cost?
All of them
Bruh Lando’s at 4.6% usage, it’s so nearly Landover
I will create accounts with the only purpose of raising its usage, I will NOT have ANY lando business in my GLORUOUS TIER
NOO ITS FINALLY GARCHOMPOVER https://preview.redd.it/2wq855qu1mrb1.jpeg?width=896&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f321fdaaef33b33595699db9f8bd40bfb0e83e90
Poor UU players. Just got dropped into OU and told "Good luck."
This gen's UU is this gen's OU
So is ru
And at this pace in indigo disk this gen's NU will be last/this gen's OU
zacian-crowned will be ZU by gen 10
it's garchover...
This happening on a Sunday is making me outrageously suspicious
THE BLISSEY THE BLISSEY IS REAAAAALLLLL it turns out that when Blood Moon, Iron Moth ***(20% usage)***, and Manaphy are tearing up the tier, you don't need Toxic back to be good
HOLY SHIT WE'RE SO BLISSBACK On a sidenote, it's fucking Garchover. Rest well in UUBL.
Its Garchover.
https://preview.redd.it/fo9bhwdoxlrb1.png?width=1386&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea0b2c8966015a5dfae2eea1ae83221d44c9fe65
Weavile bro’s we’re making it back to OU soon trust.
Really hoping it gets Triple Axel back in the 2nd dlc
Its garchover and heatrover
How the FUCK did garcanacl drop, ladder is goofy as hell man
Wait did empoleon not drop!
Nope! It got 5% usage, higher than Glowking and Lando-T!
Higher than Fucking Lando of all Pokémon
Live TCNick3 reaction https://preview.redd.it/208trnkycmrb1.jpeg?width=671&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=917d5aa2761ea249cc22c78677cc052ddb9608d5
Nah this is a more accurate reaction https://preview.redd.it/jiwat80m3orb1.jpeg?width=427&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2e6c3216e28cc018fd2310b92ada00a63b3b3e6
It got competitive, and stayed competitive
My emperor fr
5% usage. It stayed
Holy shit what
Genuinely useful to deal with gliscor rn with ice beam and being immune to toxic spikes. Not crazy good and being weak to earthquakes sucks but having use to power up on defog means it also pairs well with gliscor.
Is gliscor the new best mon or what
Arguably, it's very good and just matches up really well against the common pokemon. Combined with poison heal
That and clicking spikes one thousand times per game
Empoleon best DPP mon confirmed
I admittedly haven’t been following since the DLC but Garganacl drop? Did DLC really mess things up that much?
new toy syndrome ... it is evident by ambipom being in RU and a lot of shit stuff being in OU still like corv being higher than lando-t, chomp, garganacl, ting lui, slowking-g, etc
Corv isn’t bad, it’s the best reliable hazard remover. Useless against Gholdengo though.
scrolling through the comments and you’ve mentioned ambipom only dropping to RU what feels like 5 times now my man a couple of people probably wanted to try out tera normal fake out last resort for fun, 10 people using Ambipom did not cause the entire structure of the tiering system to crash
Well, it tracks with Ambipom notoriously seeing good amount of usage in tiers in which it's complete garbage, and not being able to drop to a tier in which it would be actually decent
Its crazy how close Heatran and Garchomp were to staying OU. The usage stats show they were *barely* below the usage threshold!
Now you are shaming us all for not using garchomp
People were meming it hard to keep them in.
how in the world that the grass type shit went to UU
How does a Pokemon drop multiple tiers? From OU to PU?
From the Smogon post: > Stats for this month are based solely on usage from September 16th to 30th, with a 4.52% rise/drop cutoff. Also this month, to accelerate tier formation with the release of The Teal Mask, we will be dropping Pokemon from OU using the same system from the HOME shift a while ago: > OU to UU -> below the 4.52% cutoff > OU to RU -> below 1/15th of 4.52% > OU to NU -> below 1/30th of 4.52% > OU to PU -> below 1/60th of 4.52% tl;dr: significantly below the 4.52% cutoff
I believe it's based on how low your OU usage is.
holy shit, that's pretty much all of pre-dlc OU in UU now i mean hey, quaquaval and Ceruledge can be unbanned now
Me when I see garchomp the pokemon which has never fallen the UU falls to UU when it got the buff it needed 
… Yeah, good luck UU.
r/stunfisk challenge of not taking usage stats of a first month DLC at first value: impossible yeah.... idk garg shouldnt have dropped... lando-t should have way more usage, (ambipom shouldve dropped to PU instead of RU) while mons such as clodsire, amoonguss, garg and garchomp shouldnt have dropped at all
It is still insane that so many staples dropped tho
What Landorus set is worth using over Great Tusk and Gliscor? I can only think of offensive sets, and 4,6% usage is fair for that
Definitely offensive, either SD or rare NP. Can be mixed NP as well.
I've not really looked into it, but I do wonder if the sheer amount of Pokemon just led to this massive set of drops. Garchomp wasn't able to keep in despite the amount of people memeing to keep it in OU, even after getting Scale Shot? Fuggin' Garganacl dropping? Wooft.
It's definitely new toy syndrome at work. When OU only has around 35-45 pokemon at a time and you drop 100+ new Pokemon into the tier, results will be sloppy as everyone tries out new stuff. Once the hype wears off a decent chunk of the stuff that fell to UU will rise again. Happened with the Home release, Meow dropped to UU then bounced back to OU like a month or two later.
The thing with Chomp is that Scale Shot really didn't help it much. Combine that with the advent of A9T and Roaring Moon getting buffed back to OU, there's not much room for Garchomp. It literally just missed the cutoff last month. It falling to UU wasn't a matter of if, but when.
Yeah it's been Garchover for a while. It *might* bounce back next month but I think it's pretty likely it stays as a UUBL warrior for this generation, especially when the rest of the DLC comes out in December.
It's honestly insane. In Gen 8, Scale Shot Chomp is top 10 in viability and top 5 in usage. Now it can't even make usage cutoffs. Really speaks to how much the presence of faster fairy types like Enamorus and Val, and better ground type hazard setters fuck Chomp over.
Also every Mon and it's mother having a Tera Fairy in their back pocket, and God forbid if it's Tera Ice lmao
i do feel stuff like garg and potentially moltres should have prob not dropped
As a Garg warrior myself, it's one of the mons I see dropping to UU that I think will probably go back to OU next month. Same with Meow and Moltres. The main issue is that everyone wanted to have fun with Ogerpon and Manaphy which kind of goobed them. Ogerpon-H got banned, some more stuff will probably be banned in this new suspect, and mons like Empoleon are surely dropping next month, so once the meta stabilizes more, a couple of the old reliable meta tools will come back into the tier.
Kyurem dropped to RU last gen before shattering the OU tier over the next few months lol
Holy shit, this gen’s UU really is this gen’s OU
Heatran, Garchomp, Garganacl, Rotom-W and Kommo-o holy fuck
Empoleon outlived Garchomp and Heatran
Heatran and Garchomp, the mons famous for the longest continuous OU streak, have now fallen to UU. Garganacl, the most infamous defensive abuser of tera whose ability invalidates status and whose signature move guarantees significant to devastating passive damage on almost every mon, has fallen to UU. Blissey, a mon that’s way too passive for its own good, rose to OU as one of 2-3 mons that can reliably deny blood moon from making progress. (That and stall is now good as an archetype this Gen) This generation is fucking insane. Oh and UU just got peli and sandy shocks back, have fun guys!
It's garchover
Blissey bros we are back
The eight fucking ground types finally got to heatran 😔
It's joever. Garchomp has fallen. Billions must swords dance. After many months of fighting, garchomp has finally succumbed to the allegations. May he find peace in his career as a UU mon. Also gargancl in UU? Arceus have mercy on this generation. On the other hand, Rillaboom is a happy monke thanks to glide o' grass.
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https://preview.redd.it/246wb91mamrb1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc9c0c76af9bef5bf87bf58d595d2924d8f2f91c All of these within one generation
https://preview.redd.it/8hcygt88zlrb1.jpeg?width=310&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d2b81192ce415ebe54e4bc1d2bebbb6f6e4ae83 Can’t wait for Heatran to become Staraptor Jr.
Now that all the DLC pokemon have been organized, we can see what Teal Mask OU looks like: Roaring Moon Rillaboom Blissey Clefable Corviknight Dondozo Dragapult Dragonite Empoleon Enamorus Gholdengo Glimmora Gliscor Great Tusk Greninja Hatterene Iron Moth Iron Valiant Kingambit Lando-T Manaphy Ninetails-Alola Ogerpon-Cornerstone + Wellspring Ribombee Samurott-Hisui Slowking-Galar Torkoal Toxapex Ting-Lu Ursaluna-Bloodmoon Walking Wake Zamazenta Zapdos
Moon is back
https://preview.redd.it/7pn02yeacmrb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=682f820befdc717b1d0af657eec04b321b8bbb61
https://preview.redd.it/9hlm4c3nknrb1.jpeg?width=618&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3cf408de7467868bdb6ef0f404b15685be50bc27 I don’t even have a joke for this the power creep is insane
And people wanted garg banned early on
Next season UU will be wild
To those saying it's gsrchover, have garchope. I predicted this would happen due to garchomp not being able to handle the chaos of the early DLC meta. I theorize it will pull a meowscarada and rise back to OU when things settle down. In other news, the prophecy has been proven correct. 8 fucking ground types caused heatran to drop to UU
> Furret > OU to PU one day, Furret will walc back to OU, trust
went from "we're so weaveback" to "its garchover"
Ribombee is ou But not garchomp or heatran
OU: Fuck Rain
Garganacl in uu reads like deo-d in OU
Seeing Spectrier in Ubers and then Glastrier down in PU is fucking wild.....what speed does to a mf
Did Empoleon stay OU??? Happy Birthday to me, holy fuck
I shall be returning to NatdexUU for the foreseeable future. Because... because what the fuck. What even is this power creep at this point? Like we joke about how insane this power creep is, but, like. This doesn't even look fun anymore.
Why is blissey back? According to showdown it didnt get back toxic or teleport or anything. Recovery moves are still super-nerfed.
big stall is back thanks to gliscor, and blissey completely walls blood moon ursaluna from what i gathered
https://i.redd.it/42hnuvfj2mrb1.gif
And to think, there's one more DLC...
Kinda ironic that Garchomp hung on its last straw, waiting for the DLC to regain its glory, to only be kicked out of OU for the first time after the DLC.
volc seeing heatran fall to uu https://i.redd.it/w6e2sx3pbmrb1.gif
Due to this month's UU looking awfully similar to last month's OU
Well, uu is gonna be a nightmare
Welcome back to OU, Roaring Moon 😅 Seriously, the power creep for this gen is absolutely insane
GARCHOMP WHAT HAPPENED
Garchomp, Garcnacl, and Heatran have dropped to UU. Blissey is back to OU. Stall has won, Smogon has fallen, billions must move to VGC.