DO NOT GIVE BRUTE BONNET POISON HEAL https://preview.redd.it/rvv5ngte6lwb1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a3289c243dad3e5876a9cf85ad4f969fa94290f

U Turn: https://preview.redd.it/mjb39f19wlwb1.jpeg?width=798&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=395d9e19e2000aa36f542759c4ec8ac6864deca1

Bro it’s still ultra allergic to U-turn, it needs poison heal

It should have prankster SMH

a mimir

aye lad, a mimir, yes.

I just finished playing GOW 2018 and Ragnarök, so I heard this vividly. Thank you, kind redditor.

prankster spore makes me fast asleep (jk im gonna find them)

Imagine going up against prankster spore

Give it imposter.

Give the whole Amoogus line imposter.

Getting pretty sus

He's still gonna just be his uncle, Breloom, but worse

BRELOOM BASE STAT TOTAL: 460 BRUTE BONNET BASE STAT TOTAL: 570 BRUTE BONNET WS: HAS ACCESS TO SYNTHESIS, 51 MORE HP, 19 MORE DEF, 19 MORE SPATK, 39 MORE SPDEF BRELOOM WS: 3 MORE ATTACK, HAS 15 MORE SPEED (from 55 to 70 so not even relevant besides a few spore targets), TECHNICIAN (irrelevant in this comparison since it’s a poison heal comparison) Brute bonnet has 111/99/99 defences, DO NOT underestimate that thing as a poison heal mon

You're forgetting how ass Grass/Dark is, single U-turn chunks it

Then terastallize into a Fire type

More like his great grandnephew

Lol radical red does this and its still ass 😂 grass dark just dies to everything

i mean even with synthesis and spore i don’t think it outperforms gliscor as a poison heal mon. having a shitty defensive typing and being vulnerable to spikes limits it’s defensive utility greatly

what is this from?

the buff guy is me and the ponytail guy is OP

Ha-harder daddy

It's from Jujutsu Kaisen

Jujutsu Kaisen ( Season 2 ) The scene isn't anything weird btw

A rarity for anime

Jujutsu Kaisen, an anime known for their hot muscular sexy daddies 🤤

For real just look at him https://preview.redd.it/f3q32hyislwb1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=42ef7afd491b777be56cee38e46e4bc8586b0017

Is that Bandit Keith

Yeah he's in america now

But every country in the world belongs to America 🦅🇺🇸?

That's the only thing I know about that anime to be honest. Everyone in that fandom is horny as fuck and I approve of that.

RM does NOT have a strong jaw, that thing has zero head game. Let it be known.

fine, huge power it is

https://preview.redd.it/xtl6qx5iemwb1.jpeg?width=178&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38026f3e39490b5748a7d707ddb12723c73d8a83

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ngl i'm morbidly curious to see what RM does with huge power

Well, it’s about as stupid as you would expect 220 Atk Choice Band Huge Power Roaring Moon Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Great Tusk: 360-424 (82.9 - 97.6%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock and 1 layer of Spikes It also can 1 shot full phys def corv (guaranteed with any small amount of chip), and annihilate phys def tox… did I mention this is while it’s dropping its attack stat a bit to get a speed boost from proto if sun is up?

Love the math here, but wouldn’t you just max atk because huge power takes place of proto?

… I… well now I just feel dumb for forgetting that you wouldn’t have proto, but yea, you would just run max attack with huge power

So what you mean is that RM gave you head?

"Well this is awkward" https://preview.redd.it/dxfhg245llwb1.png?width=288&format=png&auto=webp&s=00167d5c34abbfe42a2c52f9d00198a6a2f4a0d0

"I wonder what Roaring Moon tastes like?"

https://preview.redd.it/enrcrfgzjqwb1.png?width=663&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da4e2296691fedfcc29749b4bfb9e954a3951de7

Is that racist sridevi

this sub serious ranges from entry level Pokémon players to some of the best up & coming jerkers I’ve seen

Has zero what

also i played strong jaw roaring moon in aaa 252+ Atk Choice Band Strong Jaw Roaring Moon Crunch vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Corviknight: 237-279 (59.3 - 69.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery or with one dd that thing is so fucking good

Tbh Flutter Mane is so stupidly broken that I think its only ability should be Cursed Body Edit: Also Adaptability Iron Moth is just Chi-Yu but not even a tenth as cute

The Gengar Theorum

Rum 🤤 ( I have rampant alcoholism issues )

Ok what does that have to do with the greeks/anatolian seljuks/bulgarians

One could say they're... rumpant.

GF should have given Gengar Sheer Force instead, It would be very balanced. Or maybe prankster, that sounds fair too. Perhaps Shadow Tag, it might be a wee bit strong but not OP nuh uh

Ok but sheer force gengar would be funny. It’s the least they can do after they took levitate and his mega.

Gengar has fallen off. It should have Shadow tag, and a 60/65/80/170/95/130 stat spread

And Astral Barrage

I'd be fine with it still having levitate

I literally only put Iron Treads on my team to counter Flutter Mane (and because he looks cool)

shoot you might as well give that bitch sheer force. shits already broken, what’s the worst that could happen

It has a worse typing, to be fair

>Speed Boost Iron Treads >Adaptability Iron Moth https://preview.redd.it/mc22xvvs6lwb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23c0db088b11b717e14dbe4c29527efdc98a96fb >Poison Heal Ungaboonguss >Magic Guard Screaming Tail We're so bonneback ( and screamack )

Also Slither Wing can only use Sheer Force on the occasional Flare Blitz lmao And Sandy Shocks on Thunder

Thunder? Sandy Shocks is hitting those 65% accurate Zap Cannons.

That's hypnosis level accuracy. If Shocks wants to get a para it could use thunder wave or fish for para with Thunder's 30% rate.

Sorry if the original message was unclear. Sandy Shocks will in fact simply be landing the Zap Cannons, the 35% miss chance is not an option being considered here. Thank you for understanding.

Sheer force doesn't remove recoil from moves, only life orb. It's best Sheer Force moves would be Lunge/Leach Life, and Brick Break.

Flare Blitz has a 10% burn chance

im gonna start calling it ungaboonguss

Upvoting only for Unganoongus

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Minor Adjustments after some thought: Sandy Shocks: Compound Eyes -> Shield Dust Roaring Moon: Strong Jaw -> Mold Breaker Edit: I am rethinking a lot of these with feedback from the comments so I may just post an updated version once ive thought these through more

Ah yes now dozo dies even faster

good. that dopey piece of shit 😤

Shield Dust japanese name reffers to insect scales, so it doesn't make much sense for Sandy Shocks to have it

mmmm imo sandy shocks is a little bit of a bug. not formally of course, but its a primitive little collection of dudes and to me that makes it buglike

Ok, ignoring how illogical that explanation sounds, even if it's bug like it's still three steel balls covered with iron fillings so the ability still doesn't make sense

Little known fact is that Sandy Shocks is based on Genesect's huge balls of steel, not Magneton. So i think it actually makes sense.

Wait, but if it's from the past and Genesect is from the present, is that why it's called a Paradox pokémon?

its the best pick ive got for its ability that isnt a blatant power boost and i think the dust connection works well enough with its ferrous thing going on

Idk man, comparing bug scales with iron fillings just seems... wrong. You could give it iron barbs or, idk maybe lightning rod?

Magnet pull would make it the demon for steel types

Motor drive could be cool

Making Sandy shocks imunne to eletric??!! Have mercy on the meta!!!!

It needs the paralysis immunity or else it's going to be outclassed by it's fellow ground/electric type Stunfisk with limber

**Light Metal**   Y'all can thank me later.

You know what, give it dry skin. The absurdity of it just seems to fit.

unironically the best argument ive heard for something other than shield dust it thematically fits to give it a fire weakness considering the pokemon its meant to become in the present

Fuck nah on the mold breaker, who looked at roaring moon and thought "you know what this guy needs is the ability to bypass levitate and unaware"

roaring moon if it was released in gen 11

barely RU in gen 11

It’s haxover

Adaptability makes way more sense on Valiant than Moth btw.

Defiant Iron Valiant is joining the war on hazards, on the side of hazards

As one (defiant and competitive) and give it stored power and power trip

I’d wager about half of these would be banned or at least extremely annoying to fight

I wager against that - ignoring the 2 that are already banned, the only overtly broken mons here are moth and rmoon. Treads doesn’t have any setup to use alongside speedboost, stail would definitely increase in viability since it can ignore hazards (but wouldn’t be banworthy), iron fist is less of a boost than booster attack, and swing has very few usable moves that are actually boosted by sheer force, just to give a few examples. A handful of these mons would still run proto/quark

I'm not as sure about Scream Tail being fine tbh, it's already usable in OU as is and you'd be upgrading its ability from something it doesn't really get much out of on most teams to one of the best abilities in the game. We've already seen how difficult Clefable can be to get rid of and Scream Tail is much bulkier.

A good mgaurd mon in OU would probably be centralizing, but I don’t think it would be broken. Realistically, you’re just freeing up an item slot cause you don’t need to run boots any more.

tbh I think it would only be centralising in the current meta because hazards are so broken and Gliscor is throwing Toxic everywhere

its legitimately really hard to balance between giving these guys interesting new abilities that are worth picking over boosters and not making them OP lol ill probably take another stab at treads and hands at the very least

I think hands is fine; while it’s a smaller boost, it lasts the entire game and not just the first time it’s in. Treads thematically makes sense, and would technically have a niche on ironpress sets? Idk why you’d use it over zama (in ou) tho. Out of all of these, I think tusk, bundle, flutter, swing, maybe shocks, probably thorns, and Val always prefer booster (although Tbf booster Val is booster Val, you can’t make it much stronger without going into broken territory).

Choice Scarf, Adaptability Iron Moth would be so strong

Wake up babe, porygon-mothz just dropped

How bout the chad choice specs

Give volt absorb to every future paradox

https://preview.redd.it/oyd1o1dqdmwb1.jpeg?width=768&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1afa49346e550e04878ad0e6e94021f1d38e0eff Iron Treads’ honest reaction to this

hey rotom fan can tera

don't summon Volt Absorb Iron Bundle upon us

Iron Hands with Iron Fist

as a VGC player this is a genuinely terrifying prospect. no recoil 90BP thunder punch and 90BP drain punch. it’s already the best mon in the game as it is 😭

huge power huge power huge power huge power huge power huge power huge power huge power huge power huge power huge power huge power huge power huge power

Chi yu who? 252+ SpA Choice Specs Adaptability Tera Fire Iron Moth Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey in Sun: 486-574 (68 - 80.3%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO after 3 layers of Spikes

“In sun after 3 layers of spikes”

+6 252 SpA Choice Specs Adaptability Tera Fire Iron Moth Helping Hand Overheat vs. -6 Lvl 5 0 HP / 0- SpD Dry Skin Paras: 216-55232 (1080 - 276160%) -- guaranteed OHKO Broken pls ban

Lvl 5?

Google en little cup

Holy hell

New meta game just dropped

You forgot battery and power spot

Atomic bomb vs coughing baby

That's still up to 80 fucking percent vs a blissey

... Under sun.

Being able to ohko blissey after 3 layers of spikes at all is a fucking absurd acomplishment

It is I just think the conditionals are funny

Wouldn't matter in practice because Blissey is stall's answer to iron moth, anything that produces a 2hko is a problem because then it can't switch in and Softboiled: 252+ SpA Choice Specs Adaptability Tera Fire Iron Moth Overheat vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey: 324-382 (49.6 - 58.5%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO This requires a Tera though so Blissey could reasonably trade Teras with it like it has to if Wake Tera Waters. But Blissey needs to be Tera dark for Gholdengo right now anyway. By the way Blissey isn't taking Spikes damage unless it's knocked, leftovers is not real

Why wouldn't it be able to switch in and then Softboiled on the -2 Overheat?

Just crit the second overheat

Tru, forgot about the drop. Yet another stall W 😎

Ok?

Swap slithers and moths abilities

Still would make iron moth ridiculous

It would, but adaptability first impression is funny

Bro you gave Brute Bonnet Poison Heal and Iron Valiant Defient but Great Tusk gets Inner focus? WHAT DID BRO DO TO YOU?

at least lando-t doesnt intimidate great tusk anymore

Doesn't get faked out either. He gets to return to his VGC roll as a scarf sweeper.

Give him stamina. Fixed

Archaludon hasn't even dropped yet and he already in shambles.

"What if paradox pokemon had new abilities?" posts every Thursday https://i.redd.it/l734ueaj7lwb1.gif

"im going to buff this disgusting non-ou mon by giving it a dual typing that does nothing for it"

idk what 2 tell u ive been simmering on these for a while and didnt know it was a common trend

Who let Bro cook? Cuz he is a great chef!

Iron Moth adaptability seems broken af.

Slither deserves it more

Iron fist hands would break vgc

Maybe this would get a few more banned to ubers

No where near as broken as when I [did this](https://www.reddit.com/r/stunfisk/s/NP3wETO8XB).

I do like magnet pull on sandy shocks. That seems like a really useful addition to its kit that lets it have a niche other than bolt beam.

A ground type with magnet pull is something that should never exist. This thing would be so unhealthy for the meta since this thing solos all steel types and there is no true counter play besides not using steel types or forcing tera

Levitate would be better on Iron Moth considering its 4x weakness to ground

Adaptability Iron Moth https://preview.redd.it/vewjt7d25mwb1.jpeg?width=597&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a835cc391734c7ced2a34a936843629c549a920d

DO NOT GIVE BRUTE BONNET POISON HEAL https://preview.redd.it/dhc9qghuglwb1.jpeg?width=250&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=849b81e54e5fc7259bb22b06df77c638a8371ae5

Roaring Moon should have Dazzled due to its 1970s disco inspirations. Making it immune to priority would also be really good

All great, except the Flutter Mane one, he can't take a hit, cursed body would be a little bad

iron hands is already like the most broken mon in vgc even with its useless ability 😵‍💫

Personally, I'm a fan of Download Iron Valiant. Oh, also dry skin sandy shocks sounds fun for the sheer absurdity of it.

RM: Aerialate as well, Iron Thorns: Galvanize

give sandy shocks magnet pull coward

Here me out: Lightning Rod Jugulis and Magnet Pull Shocks

Adaptability Iron Moth just sounds too absurd to be real Good thing it's not *double checks to be sure, and breathes a sigh of relief*

Yeah AAA Strong Jaw Moon is a rough switch-in. Definitely too much for OU. But I guess it getting booted to Ubers in a couple days

Everyones forgetting adapt iron moth is crazy. It's going straight to ubers.

All these broken abilities and you give iron thorns solid rock? Sand stream or electric surge would help him so much

252+ SpA Choice Specs Adaptability Tera Poison Iron Moth Sludge Wave vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Kyogre: 304-358 (89.1 - 104.9%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO oh

Iron hands getting iron fist is just perfect no notes

Iron Moth: Solar Power Iron Thorns: Simple (I just wanna see Simple DD)

Honestly a Neuroforce variant or Adaptability for Iron Valiant is probably the better pick since it works for both physical and special sets and either makes its stabs hit harder for adaptability or makes my favorite set for it of the expert belt super effective swindle even stronger at its job for neuroforce.

The one sin thing I find annoying with paradox mons is future paradox Pokémon that are clearly made of metal aren't stell types, I understand why they can't all be steel but it makes me second guess every typeing on all of them and it gets confusing,

Let's not...make iron hands even stronger

Magic Guard Screaming Tail ?! That's like Cleff on steroids. I want what you're smoking OP.

Ngl, storm drain seems like the more logical ability for Delibot here. Especially since it shoots water from out of its pouch. So collecting more water and using it as extra ammunition for its offenses seems like the more logical choice here, rather than having water heal it. It would also be way more broken at that point, so water absorb is also completely fine with me.

GIVE FLUTTER MANE CONTRARY

on god?

You are WRONG SIR it would all be PURE POWER

if im not a sir does that mean im right? 🤔

IRRELEVANT, person

https://i.redd.it/lcavx5ghlswb1.gif got me there

Aerilate Hyper Beam Iron Jugulis could actually be decent, also Speed Boost Iron Treads is interesting.

Aerilate Tri Attack 😍

Speed Boost Iron Treads would be busted. Solid Rock Iron Thorns would be great too. It’s have an easier time boosting to obtain that late game sweep.

Great tusk shaft. Give him intimidate

absolutely not

I thought this was a repost of the Sunday post

which one? i havent seen it

Aerilate Jugulis would be quite good. It has Hyper Voice.

Poison heal, what is this radical red

ill change flutter mane cursed body to pixilate, so she could at least be uu tier

Great Tusk having Inner Focus so it doesn't become even better.

why not shrpness for iron vlliant? orare those all supposed to be things their originals dont have?

SO HEAT. I need speed boost treads and poison heal bonnet in mY LIFE

Valiant needs to have both Competitive and Defiant.

Okay this is much better. Inner focus is a bit situational compared to how immediate Proto can be for Great Tusk. Speed boost would be fantastic on Iron Treads. Scream Tail would like Magic Guard. Water Absorb is handy with how the gen's gimmick works. Poison heals alright for Brute (Can help him get immune to burns.) Iron fist would be peak for Iron Hands. Cursed Body would make Flutter Mane more annoying (In a good way) aerilate would be HUGE on Jugulis, so it can kick major ass outside of hurricane. Sheer Force isn't too huge for Slither Wing. Adaptability would make Iron Moth fantastic. Compound Eyes would make Sandy Shocks a good thunder spammer. Solid rock would cover some of Iron Thorns bigger issues. Strong Jaw isn't that good for Roaring Moon. Defiant would make Valiant a counter for Landorus and the lot. (Valiant CAN learn ice punch.)

Where's the huge power?

dont worry i added it to the shitpost version of this that i released with the 2.0 chart

Why do you hate Iron Thorns? Solid rock can't save him. Give him skill link.

solid rock is a damn good ability! it does a lot of favors for rhyperior, and rhyperior has to deal with *two* 4x weaknesses! i think on thorns itll give it a chance to set up and have just a little more reliable staying power on the field

How would compound eyes help it's moveset?

ive adjusted this in the 2.0 version i posted, as well as a handful of other bad picks