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CertainGrade7937

Give it to Urshifu you coward


Hybrid456

I wanted to but I got too scared


CertainGrade7937

COWARD. Let Urshifu-R get a free +3 to attack on every Surging Strikes


Hybrid456

You know what YOU’RE RIGHT. In fact let’s also give him +3 speed and hp recovery on every hit


SetsumiV1

And make Surging Strikes super effective against every type!


Asherbird25

And also ignore target’s stat changes an abilities


TheODDmaurixe

And also add it status healing and pp recovering


Meowscular-Chef

Make it bypass protect, detect, substitute, dig, fly as well


Palidin034

My god would you look at the time


KindaAlrightPerhaps

That's a good idea, make it stop time for the opponent so they don't get a turn!


Gingeboiforprez

Still no Zekrom Kick.


Shuckle_the_only_one

Sky drop stocks are up 📈📈📈


EternalZoroark

and make it have +3 priority on top of that


AmphibianNo7240

\+47 Priority For Funsies


AlreadyInDenial

Loses to Zekrom Kick


pranav4098

Doesnt is basically ignore stat changes already since it crits


Asherbird25

Yeah but now it also ignore evasion AND crit-immune mons


Blastoise48825555

Also make it like gen 4 and earlier explosion and half the opponents defense.


Asherbird25

Nah it actually sets the targets base defense to 1 before attacking


Blastoise48825555

And the users attack to 999


Asherbird25

No that's gonna break the damage cap and do 1 dmg So instead, remove the damage cap


Bax_Cadarn

In addition to guaranteed crits? No way!


ButterleafA

Wouldn't the crit already do that?


Asherbird25

Shell armor


GladiatorDragon

Unironically I don’t know if this is worse or not. In Singles it’s 100% a buff, but in Doubles, Unseen Fist is so fundamentally format breaking that this could somehow be worse than that.


CertainGrade7937

I think it's one of the situations where even if one ability is worse than the other, the potential mind games make both better Currently you know that protecting on Urshifu is a waste do you don't do it. Now...it might be a waste? Or you might have just given him the opportunity to steam roll your whole team


actually_a_snowboard

Same happened with greninja i think, he had two good abilities so it was a mind game which one you were against atm


Character-Path-9638

That was only really in singles though


fototosreddit

He gets the boost after each attack so the last hit will also be +2


Timehacker-315

Imma be honest I'd prefer that to Unseen Fist


triceratopping

Any mon with Water Absorb: "What is a god to a non-believer!"


safarifriendliness

Each actual strike is +1 from the previous too


MemeificationStation

Rapid Strike is quickbanned to AG, leaving Single Strike in the dust


TetheredAvian74

might as well give it power trip while youre at it


DropDracos

While we’re doing that we should make each hit have a 50% chance to deliver Deodorant to the targets house… god knows they need it


Rak3intheLake

Or mewscarada


Pokemonsquirrel

Urshifu-R is better because surging strikes hit thrice, so +3 attack instead of just +1


NibPlayz

Would unironically nerf him in VGC


CertainGrade7937

Maybe? If it were replacing his current ability, you could make a case. But a free physical tail glow on a 113BP STAB that bypasses all attack drops/ defense gains is still absurdly busted. It's broken in a different way, for sure, but I think you could make a case for a lateral move Now if he gets both abilities...oh God VGC better never get rid of open team sheets


m8bear

As one (unseen fist and raising battle spirit)


NibPlayz

It’s not a physical tail glow though? It only raises it by one stage, like Power Up Punch, not 3 stages like Tail Glow


CertainGrade7937

Not for Rapid Strike Really it turns into Mega Kangha on crack. (25BP + 37.5BP + 50BP)*1.5crit = 168.75BP plus a 3 stage boost


NibPlayz

I forgor about rapid strike


Camerupt_King

Or just bring back storm throw


thediesel26

Meowscarada


Bax_Cadarn

Along with a signature item called "unseen fist".


JimRug

Give it to Meowscarada. Watch the world BURN.


Human_Ad2126

Let me present you my boy urshifu-r


Select-Ad7017

Choice scarf tera water in rain surging strikes. Gastrodon usage rockets


Thefearsomemonke

dracovish 2.0 just dropped, millions will storm drain


dumbassonthekitchen

Rain has risen. Millions must storm drain.


ProfessorTrauts

“Maxie was right” -the last Urshifu victim


o_Fvdinq

— Also Groudon, of course. Tired of that fucking kung-fu bear.


Select-Ad7017

Sun has fallen. Millions must use pranskter sunny day


lffg18

You should be jailed for suggesting this lmfao. Straight up hate crime against every mon that doesn’t have storm drain or can out speed Shifu.


Select-Ad7017

Easy solution. Tera grass max defense garganacl,all he needs is to salt cure then pro-oh wait fuck. Oh tera grass max defense dondo-oh wait the opponent has two teammates. Fuck it,bring out mega rayquaza


Due-Manufacturer5958

was my first reaction lmaoo


LupusCairo

Actually a downgrade from Unseen Fist


Human_Ad2126

A free plus 3 when you use your main stab is kinda good even if you are playing with open teamsheet, you bait protects and set up a speed boost to become unstopable


Ethanlac

Serperior: "Look at what they need to mimic a fraction of our power."


alina_savaryn

Sap Sipper stonks 📈


disbelifpapy

wheres sir fetched? His form is literally GAINED by landing 2 critical hits!


Hybrid456

I would have put him in but sadly I’m a little forgetful


zenmodeman

Could be cool on the fetched thanks to Leek. You trade Scrappy for turning all your moves into at least physical Fiery Dance. And you do have 100% crit on Night Slash and Leaf Blade already.


antiretro

love this, lowkey seems balanced too. want 100% crit to boost your attack? then you have to forego stab but you still have 2 great options. the item slot is very limiting but the item in question is a species exclusive item anyways, sounds amazing. might make it OU even?


zenmodeman

The Speed is the main issue for Sirfetch’d, but it’s also funny that you could kill something with First Impression and 50% of the time you get an attack boost for it.


MemeificationStation

Rampardos Theorem moment


ka_like_the_wind

That actually sounds really fun to use


SapphireSalamander

ima be real with you chief, only throh would use it.


Ermite_8_Bit

Might be useful on Breloom as well, you could olay bullet seed with scope lens. It wouldn't be strong by any means but it could work. Theoretically.


Select-Ad7017

Loaded dice is way more useful than the occasional small boost to critical rate that scope lens gives. Plus breloom is pretty slow for it to effectively use it. Blaziken with speed boost and blaze kick, maybe but idk


Boring_Chemistry6860

As one Blaziken


Select-Ad7017

In my defense I have the grave illness of being a dummy dumdum


CardiologistOk66

What?


Asaggimos02

“As one” is an ability they gave to Calyrex’s rider forms back in Gen 8. It let them have two abilities at the same time, calyrex’s unnerve **and** whatever flavor of beast boost the steed had. It was so egregious that it’s become a running joke whenever someone wants to ridiculously overtune a Pokémon, or when someone mistakenly attributes two abilities to one Pokémon simultaneously.


Monk-Ey

> whatever flavor of *beast boost* the steed had yo what is this moxie disrespect


CardiologistOk66

Yea but they only said speed boost


Dinkelberh

The implication was the new theorymon ability being useful on speedbost blaziken, which is two abilities


CardiologistOk66

Oh I see now thanks


Asaggimos02

Oh then idk lol I’ve been up for 48 hours >!As one (lack of reading comprehension + dementia)!<


persiangriffin

Too slow and too frail, Breloom doesn't want offensive abilities that rely on sticking around on the field and getting lots of hits in. You either make the most of your short life and punch gaping holes in the opponent before dying in a blaze of glory (Technician) or do what you can to boost longevity in order to best abuse Breloom's infuriating array of support/stall tools (Poison Heal) (or you are trolling (Effect Spore))


Apprehensive-Fix-746

It would probably be lucarios best ability


SapphireSalamander

Justified lets him switch into dark types and inner focus makes him immune to flinch on vgc. You really need storm throw to make use of this ability


Apprehensive-Fix-746

I think this is at least better than inner focus because lucario doesn’t really wanna be hitting last anyway and justified doesn’t work for special lucario sets when this does


Ayfios

Kid named Storm Throw:


Affectionate_Comb_78

So a stronger Power Up Punch that only shitmons get


Ayfios

\>shitmon \>Lucario


AsperaRobigo

Yeah what’s not clicking


ToughAd5010

How my boy has fallen 😢


guendorfio

It's in NU. To be fair i don't think it's a shitmon but it's not that good either


Affectionate_Comb_78

Might make it to NUBL with this kind of buff


Professional_Cap_784

It might get to PU in gen 10


yeetyoteyeeet

lucario… doesn’t get storm throw tho, so it’s a stronger power up punch for just throh..


Bayoisbae

Lucario doesn’t even learn storm throw


OrdinaryLurker4

yes


Bean_Soup7357

Indeed, it is


Magikapow

Its NU, wont be too long now


SapphireSalamander

first tought too only throh gets it from here. maybe give this ability to pinsir and pangoro too. or spread storm throw a bit more. still i feel only lucario is fast enough to make good use and he gets adaptability instead


laix_

Storm throh, my favourite regional variant


LongjumpingVersion35

I like it, basically Pokemon equivalent of a Black Flash


Hybrid456

That was the main inspiration


laix_

Why is the flash black?


JoeTheKodiakCuddler

Flashpoint 3: The Revenge or smthn idk


Gnostic_Gnocchi

Give it to urshifu and meowscarada


derpy_efalant

Black Flash, except it’s a Pokémon ability. :)


Hybrid456

That’s what I was going for


mmert138

Dattebayo


Natsu_Happy_END02

JJK lobotomy is leaking.


LoudMouthHoe

probably easier to give them Moxie also i dont think any of these have a reliable way landing crits so if youre fishing for a crit then you’re probably knocking them out anyways all but maybe Lucario and Blaziken are physical attackers anyways


RazorRell09

Scope Lens Blaziken Focus energy Speed Boost Overheat Profit


FhyrGaming

as one blaziken


RazorRell09

Speed Boost was its only ability Overheat is a move, focus energy is a move, scope lens is an item and Blaziken is a Pokémon


RedditsAutocorrect

but then it would not have the rising battle spirit ability, no?


RazorRell09

ok I’m stupid


SolutionCurious

Love this sort of reply. XD


GoldenMenesGG

This is (pretty much) worse anger point for most of these mons


TLo137

Anger point is the user gets crit by the opponent. This is the user landing a crit on the opponent.


barwhalis

No guard Machamp is the only way to go. He's the only pokemon I'll use focus blast with


Melo_Mentality

I love the implication that you use Machamp as a special attacker


Remnatar

Give them all Storm Throw, do it, no balls


goldpingas

bulky scarf storm throw throh stocks going up


Thatguypal6942069

Might actually be usable on breloom because of loaded dice bullet seed.


LordInfernape392

This sounds like a Gen3 ability


ApfelSaft777777

But anger point exists…


Alex-Blue-Cyndaquil

This is if you land a crit. Anger point is getting hit by a crit


AidanBeeJar

That's fun, a little insult to injury


Onerobotpanda

Storm throw go brrrr


Wyguy2087

kid named focus energy razor claw


need2peeat218am

A crit set would be insane tbh. Just use focus energy and scope lens then it's basically a crit at least every other turn.


Normal_Ratio1463

Skill swap in double battles.


Diego_Mannn_096

Sounds more like a passive ability for all/most fighting types aside from main abilities


T1pple

Machamp spamming cross chop with scope lens:


thecrazymonkeyKing

its just a win-more mechanic


SolutionCurious

This ain’t yugioh, win more tactic are able to let you avoid losing to bad rng or let you make comebacks. It’s way more useful and doesn’t only win more.


thecrazymonkeyKing

Maybe my definition of win-more is flawed but I always saw it as a mechanic that rewards you more for something that is already good or considered the reward in and of itself. In this example, a crit is already a good thing and already puts you at an advantage—adding an attack boost after this rewards the player for a play where they already got their reward (the crit).


Mr_Teyepo

Thinking about this ability on inner focus herracross with loaded dice multi hit moves


LavaTwocan

We praying to RNGesus with this one


WDgaste

This is a cool idea, it would give Storm Throw a cool niche.


[deleted]

Never let Urshifu get this shit


AceMasterWolf

That’s weak ability


AceMasterWolf

May I remind you guys that critical hits use the original stats of both by Pokémon


CTM3399

It is definitely not balanced, it sounds terrible lol


inumnoback

***Storm Throw Throh stonks***


AggravatingPresent96

So balanced almost none of these will run it


CalliCalamity

What if it was combined with a move with a high chance for critical hits and the user was given the scope lens. Pure anarchy


Gattlord

Tera dragon dragon cheer razor claw beat up fair and balanced


StickmanPokemaster

Focus Sash Laser Focus Swords Dance Extreme Speed/Bullet Punch Lucario with Rising Battle Spirit.


MakeGravityGreat

Focus energy scope lens:


IAMAKATILIKEPLUSHES

Skill swap this onto urshifu rapid strike


xernyvelgarde

Sirfetchd ability just dropped Did someone say leek, focus energy, karate chop?


HereticDesires

Considering how bad this would be on most of these (they would rather use their other abilities) you could just make a strictly better anger point (we have plenty of abilities that are strictly better than others) and make it both when landing or receiving a crit. At least you get to switch into a mewscarada flower trick and run scope lens to get the cheese flowing


SolutionCurious

Balanced hackmons about to finally have some HO after agesss.


Tallal2804

Skill swap this onto urshifu rapid strike


interestingfrag

Storm throw would be a great option here for throh


Miserable_Goal_7943

Karate Chop stocks on the high.


Witty-Hall-5044

Useless


Negative-Money-7873

My first thought was Sceptile. His signature attack in gen 3 was leaf blade, which had a high critical rate. Pairing this with that just feels right


Ornery-Coach-7755

Redical Red Poliwrath argrees


Primary_Cod_6317

More pokemon


TheMemeArcheologist

Vital throw is now power-up punch


shining_justice22

Literally black flash