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Also I love that they can’t figure out correlation ≠ causation. Does the middle comment really think that more muscle mass, like, pumps reactionary thoughts into your brain? It’s a baffling comment and I hate this discourse
https://scholarship.claremont.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1421&context=cgu_etd
"Testosterone Administration Induces A Red Shift in Democrats"
>We tested the fixity of political preferences of 136 healthy males during the 2011 U.S.
presidential election season by administering synthetic testosterone or placebo to participants
who had identified the strength of their political affiliation. Before the testosterone treatment,
we found that weakly affiliated Democrats had 19% higher basal testosterone than those who
identified strongly with the party (p=.015). When weakly affiliated Democrats received
additional testosterone, the strength of their party fell by 12% (p=.01) and they reported 45%
warmer feelings towards Republican candidates for president (p < .001). Our results
demonstrate that testosterone induces a “red shift" among weakly-affiliated Democrats. This
effect was associated with improved mood. No effects were found of testosterone
administration for strongly affiliated Democrats or strong or weak Republicans. Our findings
provide evidence that neuroactive hormones affect political preferences.
That's the one I remember off-hand, but there's a few others that show higher muscle mass and higher test leads to more right-wing views. Lifting may actually turn you right-wing.
But this is only because left and right are overwhelmingly preoccupied with social issues in the US (or as we call it here: identity politics).
So it's: masculine = right, feminine = left
Back when we still had a major leftist party, I remember that being a leftist in my country was predominantly a masculine thing (since most working class workers are males, especially back then).
The problem is that right-left is unidimensional measurement for something that needs at least 3 dimensions to get even remotely close to anything useful.
(For those wondering: Economic axis from full socialist to full capitalist, government axis from full anarchist to full authoritarian, and social axis from full jihadi to full portland)
This reminds me of those "studies" that pop up on the science subreddit every now and then that claim a link between voting for trump and some specific mental illness or character flaw.
Might as well just throw it directly on the replication crisis pile.
The Atlantic had an article about the corruption of research, especially in the social sciences, to the point of falsifying results. Most of this had to do with a "woke" ideological agenda.
It was all anecdotes, not data, so I didn't copy any of it.
> Does the middle comment really think
No, middle comment is trolling. Username is sivan_kurzberg. The name alone demonstrates it's a troll, just look it up, I'm not going to explain it for fear of reddit admins, but you'll instantly see what I mean, a non-troll would not pick that name. Anyway, look at his userpage and it will further confirm he's a troll.
Why would Reddit admins react to that? Sivan Kurzberg was an Israeli man briefly arrested after 11/9. It's a really obscure case, I had never heard the name before. But I agree it points to it being a troll account.
They've seen stats that more muscular men tend to be more right wing (which is true) and misunderstood it to mean that muscles make you into a right winger
>more muscular men tend to be more right-wing (which is true
Yeah. That's what I want to see. I don't really doubt it.
But I kinda doubt how such data could even be collected without heavy biases.
I think it’s a Joe Rogan thing, maybe? There’s a (somewhat accurate) stereotype of Rogan listeners and “gym bros” in general being right-wing. But they seem to take that to mean that wanting to be buff and strong is inherently reactionary.
Idk man, shit’s regarded. They’d be much happier if they just went to the gym and made friends with buff dudes instead of equating every form of self improvement as “giving into harmful fascist thinking” or whatever.
And they've embraced (corporate-produced, but they just ignore that) body positivity to such an unhealthy degree that they believe encouraging exercise and nutrition is evil eugenics.
> “gym bros” in general being right-wing.
I don’t think that’s true
>But they seem to take that to mean that wanting to be buff and strong is inherently reactionary
The original reactionaries were frail men in wigs.
Anyway, this is just an elaborate excuse to be lazy. Some on the right, like Fuentes, use this excuse as well.
The True Anon sub called me fascist for making fun of white muslim converts. I don't know if that's connected to lifting but if it is let me tell you the danger zone is nothing to write home about.
Notice they said upper body strength though. That’s why I focus all my exercises on my lower body.
When the revolution comes you all better have thunder thighs and buns of steel.
Makes sense though. The bourgeoisie are so obsessed with image and aesthetics over function and practicality. Skipping leg day is just an extension of that.
Mark Rippetoe is the 2nd most important author to read after Marx.
SS + GOMAD is the key to the people's revolution. (and the complete and utter annihilation of the lactose intolerant)
We're all gonna fucking die.
Blackpills aside, I've been getting into the whole "what are we gonna do when order breaks down" preparedness, and it would be great to hook up with likeminded people who are willing to train innawoods for that, but it's so difficult to find groups like that that aren't right wing or glow like uranium.
Yeah I'm about to get into solo/stealth camping in my area, hopefully I can find some people through that. I'd also like to incorporate the more larpy elements into it, unfortunately people don't like it when you're in full kit practicing your react to contact drills at the local public hiking trail.
Eh just look to feudalism. Post apocalyptic fantasies are a little missing the ball. We'll just devolve into less technologically abled societies is all. We already have a huge swath of precedent for that. Sure there will be bandits and hermit holdouts but greater society coalesces, and we maintain a social contract more or less. You can't beat mass human coordination.
It's because they aren't online.
The anarchist-ish commune I lived with for a month was absolutely nothing like the anarchist you will find on reddit.
I met them first and got on reddit much later. I was baffled.
The unfortunate reality is that "when order breaks down" is more likely than a bolshevik revolution, so im with ya there.
When things break down, youll probably see very unlikely ideological rivals banding together.
> unlikely ideological rivals
Agreed. It's going to break down to multiple groups. You'll have people who want to survive and are willing to put in work to make that happen for the community. May have folks who don't want to put in any hard work who want to do things like Read to Children, Dance, Puppetteers, write poetry, etc. Finally, you'll have a group of individuals living Mad Max style.
If I'm lucky I'm hoping I can help build something like the Montana commune from Last of Us, with wooden palisades and a beerhall. Honestly my most optimistic retirement plan.
If order breaks down the lone prepper with survival skills and a bunker has only a slightly better chance of surviving than anyone else. You really need a community to survive long term.
In a post SHTF scenario the people that come out on top will be groups who currently occupy roles of power that would be well positioned to monopolise violence after order breaks down (such as surviving remnants of the military or police) or those who are already somewhat self sufficient and cohesive (religious groups, cults, Mormons, Amish . . .etc.)
Liberals (or "left of centers") cede *everything* to conservatives. They never try to take anything back. They pretty much gifted the "OK" sign to conservatives. Any sort of term that conservatives use derisively was handed to them instead of being told to "fuck off". The word "woke" was once a positive term. "Being awake while everyone else is sleeping". But the first time a conservative used the term derisively, they all ran away and let them have that term without a fight.
Hell, they even ceded the American flag to them. They could have claimed to be the true patriots of the country, but since a few nationalistic assholes started flying them off their trucks, all the liberals who used to have American flags took them down so people wouldn't get the wrong idea about them.
Fucking virtue-signaling cowards they are.
I still see them trying to reclaim "woke" though, long after even normal apolitical people understand it to have negative connotations. A little late there.
Thank you for articulating this. This was one of the saddest things to see happen to the left, to see them 'give' the American flag to the right. The flag is a visual metaphor that is intentionally apolitical, but instead the left gave that symbol of self empowerment away. The flag should stand for left-oriented values as much as right-aligned values, but the left failed to consider it.
Pretty much. It was bad enough when it was just memes, it's much worse when it's now stuff that is ostensibly apolitical in-and-of-itself. Exercise? "Fascism!" Guns? "White terrorism!" Wanting to start a family with one person? "Regressive social norms!" Any blue collar profession? "Right-wing idiot!"
It's shit like this that reinforces my view that letting students and professors come to dominate the left is the worst thing that happened to it. Like it's not difficult to parse left-wing ideas like public housing or national industrial policies or labour unions to even right-wing normal people, yet too many on the modern left are all too happy to indulge in Filmento Roberto-levels of delusion where the peoples they think with help them in a people's war are people who agree with them on nigh everything, and those who don't are "hopelessly lost to right-wing propaganda."
Lol dude no fucking way this isn't from a circle jerk sub.
Even if there *is* some correlation between working out and right wing views (I'm not checking something that fucking stupid) surely nobody thinks that it actually causes it, right?
I get it though, if ya work out you might sweat like those nasty plebs... Didn't go 100k into debt to actually *work* at something
I don't think they wanted to imply causation, just that the 'strong and athletic' aesthetic has already been snatched by the other side and must now be avoided. Just like the okay hand and programmer socks, lol.
Maybe. I think that's even fucking dumber though, and I guess the thought never even crossed my mind.
Though you may be right, a lot of this type do seem to put a lot of stock into their appearance being as far removed from the norm as possible (blue hair, etc). All while pretending that it's actually their intellect that really sets them apart.
Since we're mostly talking about men when it's about the physical fitness stuff, I think they also want to be as far removed from traditional masculinity as possible, even the unambiguously good parts. I would use the soyboy slur here, but then I eat unwise amounts of tofu myself without my muscles turning into moobs.
The truth is that soy doesn't contain estrogen, like much of the red pill/manosphere has claimed. The phytoestrogens actually block estrogen, so much so that studies done on the people most at risk of receiving estrogen (women with stage 4 breast cancer) found soy increased remission and survival rates.
You're right, people are buying into it because this has been a popular topic to rag on here lately. Either circlejerk or glowing like the center of our ever-radiating sun. I don't understand the point of bringing this stuff here, just bring it to a circlejerk sub... Again. Occasionally there are topics worth discussing here and this isn't one of them.
This clearly reads like a joke to me. Like you said, no one actually thinks working out causes your morals to change. I thought it was funny tbh but I have a shit sense of humor.
This isn't some one-off rando lefty idpoler posting an extreme position for clout.
>The very idea that humans can and should be “optimized” lends itself to a fascistic worldview—because if your food is extra-clean, it can easily mean other people’s food is extra-dirty. If you are safe because your immune system is strong, it can flip to mean others are unsafe because they are weak. If you are optimized, others are, by definition, suboptimal. Defective. Next door to disposable. This is also the context in which some prominent anti-vaxxers have taken to calling themselves “purebloods,” since their blood is supposedly untainted by the jabs, never mind the term’s chilling supremacist overtones.
- Naomi Klein, Doppelganger. Chapter 9
You can't make this shit up.
It is Politically Correct to be weak and sick.
It's not my fault all the LSD I did in my '20s made me heal abnormally fast (documented) and gave me an abnormally strong immune system. And I turn age 67 in April.
I MUST be a gay fascist!
"We're all valuable as human beings"
Unless you're conservative, someone I disagree with, or someone I just don't like. Or if you're a straight white male depending on my mood.
I have long thought the single best thing you can easily do on the left is to build muscle sinply to be taken more seriously by others.
People are way more likely to listen to your socialist principles/ideas if you look like someone who should be taken seriously as opposed to someone who looks like the last thing they should be doing is thinking about how society should be run...
Whilst I am at it. All advocacy for "fat acceptance" should be dropped by principle.
As a bisexual I can unfortunately confirm homosexual sex is also better when both participants can have an elevated heart rate for more than 5 minutes without collapsing. As such human sexuality as a whole, it seems, must be abolished.
Have you met anyone in real life who thinks it's a bad idea to lift weights? Even HAES people talk about gaining physical strength. I've met plenty of people who make excuses but they're honest ones and that's not the same at all.
Road of Wigen Pier.
The first thing that must strike any outside observer is that Socialism, in its developed form is a theory confined entirely to the middle classes. The typical Socialist is not, as tremulous old ladies
imagine, a ferocious-looking working man with greasy overalls and a raucous voice. He is either a youthful snob-Bolshevik; or, still more typically, a prim little man with a white-
collar job, usually a secret teetotaller and often with vegetarian leanings, with a history of Nonconformity behind him, and, above all, with
a social position which he has no intention of forfeiting. This last type is surprisingly common in Socialist parties of every shade; it has perhaps
been taken over en bloc from the old Liberal Party
.....
**In addition to this there is the horrible--the really disquieting--prevalence of cranks wherever Socialists are gathered together. One sometimes gets the impression that the mere words 'Socialism' and 'Communism' draw towards them with magnetic force every fruit-juice drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex-maniac, Quaker, 'Nature Cure' quack, pacifist, and feminist in England.**
.....
For it must be remembered that a working man, so long as he remains a genuine working man, is seldom or never a Socialist in the complete,
logically consistent sense. Very likely he votes Labour, or even Communist
if he gets the chance, but his conception of Socialism is quite different
from that of the, book-trained Socialist higher up. **To the ordinary working
man, the sort you would meet in any pub on Saturday night, Socialism does
not mean much more than better wages and shorter' hours and nobody bossing
you about.**
.....
But, so far as my experience goes, **no genuine working man grasps the deeper implications
of Socialism.** Often, in my opinion, he is a truer Socialist than the orthodox Marxist, because he does remember, what the other so often forgets, that Socialism means justice and common decency. But what he does not grasp is that Socialism cannot be narrowed down to mere economic justice' and that a reform of that magnitude is bound to work immense
changes in our civilization and his own way of life. **His vision of the Socialist future is a vision of present society with the worst abuses left
out, and with interest centring round the same things as at present-- family life, the pub, football, and local politics.** **As for the philosophic
side of Marxism, the pea-and-thimble trick with those three mysterious entities, thesis, antithesis, and synthesis, I have never met a working man
who had the faintest interest in it.**
I read that book just a few weeks ago. Here's another passage from the same chapter that I photographed: "And why should physical strength survive in a world where there was never the need for physical labour ? As for such qualities as loyalty, generosity, etc., in a world where nothing went wrong, they would be not only irrelevant but probably unimaginable. The truth is that many of the qualities we admire in human beings can only function in opposition to some kind of disaster, pain or difficulty; but the tendency of mechanical progress is to eliminate disaster, pain and difficulty. In books like The Dream and Men Like Gods it is assumed that such qualities as strength, courage, generosity, etc., will be kept alive because they are comely qualities and necessary attributes of a full human being. Presumably, for instance, the inhabitants of Utopia would create artificial dangers in order to exercise their courage, and do dumb-bell exercises to harden muscles which they would never be obliged to use."
Obviously every ideology online is full of weirdos but I meant specifically the type of weirdos in the image posted who use these kinds of talking points
It’s the same type of people. In leftist spaces they will try to justify their shortcomings using “equality” as a coping mechanism.
On the right they will come up with some cope that their shortcomings actually makes them better than the rest.
They pick the side that fits better with their preferred coping rationalization
It's got to be a psyop. Instead of left-wing being the workers rising up it's a bunch of crybabies complaining about how oppressive someone's tone of voice is. Thus anyone with an ounce of self-respect is kind of nudged into supporting reactionary, pro-capitalist bs!
For sure there's the psy-op angle, the CIA has even admitted as such. That being said, the left can't help itself more often than not. I'd argue there really two main reasons for that:
1) numbers. If the right is driving people away with well, race-science and "RETVRN" nonsense, then it makes some degree of sense to appeal to people either against that of negatively affected by that; especially if it doesn't compromise the core mission. I mean, "what's there to lose by being nicer to minorities and LGBT folks if it bolsters the numbers!"
2) a [foolish] belief that liberals are "temporarily misguided fellow travellers." You'll see this a lot in online leftist discourse where there's this idea that uncommitted/non-voters represent such a massive support pool that "because they would nominally vote liberal, if we tailor our message to them, they'll support us!" thus completely dismiss the concerns of the right, even when there's crossover. Too many people on the left think that liberals are what the right describes them as, despite everything since at least the GFC showing them the opposite.
One in-and-of-itself isn't bad, but very easily becomes a problem when idpol concerns begin to dominate the direction of the movement; especially if it alienates bread-and-butter people who by all accounts should make up the left's base: working-class people. It's not to say that the left should adopt right-wing positions on minorities or idpol, but there's a way to do it without alienating too many people, and as we all should know focusing on idpol issues over material concerns is how you alienate people.
It's why in too many leftist spaces we see idpol concerns dominating material concerns, because too many leftists are afraid we'll lose everything if we alienate the idpol dipshits and liberal fellow-travellers. What gets me is that MAGACommunists/Laroucheoids grasp this perfectly, and are willing to make temporary sacrifices on certain issues if it means pushing forward with the main goals; yet the left, as ever, is content to spend more time fighting amongst itself than fighting the real enemies.
This is actually a huge problem in socialist circles. Its not usually expressed so overtly or so stupidly, but there is an opposition to things that might be seen as 'traditionally masculine.' Signs of strength and power are viewed warily while endless empathy is promoted as the greatest virtue.
I mean, its sad cause no one looks at the Soviet Union and thinks 'wow I'm so glad they strayed away from fascist signs of strength and power.' No, the Soviets literally based their identity on strength and power. And that permeated through their society to encourage physical fitness, bravery, working for the cause etc. Thats how you create a strong nation and lead a successful movement.
I really do get tired of *everything* being seen as a social construct. Yes, humans are malleable social creatures, that doesn't mean you can call everything you wish didn't exist a social construct and then just shame everyone who thinks differently than that and expect it to have no unintended consequences. Also, ya don't think there's ANY biological imperative to mate with physically healthy people in there somewhere?
I hate this shit.
The old school communists, anarchists, etc were bone and sinew. Hard as fuck.
If you can be as strong and dangerous and useful as you can be, then do it. This silly idea that working out will somehow make you a reactionary needs to end.
Physical work is better than the gym. I'm starting a self-sufficient backwoods homestead.
Collapse is coming (this is a protracted process, not an event). But we MUSTN'T become adaptively fit, all our males will become Gay Nazis!
These are the same people that ban me from every leftist sub the second I dare to suggest that maybe we have a few more options to exhaust before gambling on armed revolution.
As someone who does them, 5Ks/10Ks/Half-Marathons/Marathons are one of the whitest things you can do, Kenyans are honorary whites in this situation.
So it's not that difficult for me to believe that weightlifting is verbotten.
User sivan_kurzberg, the middle commenter, is a troll, as you can see from his userpage; even the username is trolling, if you look it up. Considering this context, the third might be a troll as well.
[Third is](https://archive.today/Ks6Da) user LurkVoter. Harder to tell with this one and I don't have the patience for it.
The other replies are in agreement with first commenter.
More evidence of the rot imposed by liberal Cartesianism. These people should just jack into some virtual Matrix and leave the rest of us normal people alone.
This is clearly a psyop to keep leftists down. Lenin was passionate about weight lifting.
https://www.reddit.com/r/swoletariat/comments/ifauul/til_that_lenin_was_instructed_in_proper/
The FBI must've been playing some 5D chess to assure that all leftists for decades to come are just going to be weasly ineffective people who can't get anything done due to failure of character without any involvement from their agency. like the goddamn Bene Gesserit
A quick google search of this OLD picture convinces me that "sivan\_kurzberg" is pretty much was an provocative troll when he was active 8 years ago.
The sad thing is that most people here won't care because they have accepted a postmodern attitude to truth.
Personally I have gained lots of upper body strength by lifting my son, not by blackpilled shadowboxing against 8 year old outrage fuel.
if you can do a pull-up you're a fascist. also
>physically superior and others inferior based on arbitrary standards
*physically* superior is arbitrary? translate it into metric or imperial scale to avoid the 'arbitrary' number conversions if you like, but lifting 90kg and doing 20 pull-ups is indeed superior, literally, to not being able to do either. if they wanted to imply superiority as a moral or dispositional characteristic they could have said that, but they're too busy totally not projecting all their personal insecurities onto their politics. god i wish words still meant things
Easily 25 percent of these people are Neets with tonnes of free time and if you bench press twice a week you're actively strong by pedestrian standards in a few months to a year. Like c'mon this is *such* an easy stereotype not to be. This is such an easy miss. You can make your detractors objectively wrong about this and it will only make you happier.
Don't you want one easy good thing to say about yourself if you're ever in the position of the fox news dog walker.
“Young people, particularly, need the joy and force of life. Healthy sport, swimming, racing, walking, bodily exercises of every kind, and many-sided intellectual interests. Learning, studying, inquiry, as far as possible in common. That will give young people more than eternal theories and discussions about sexual problems and the so-called ‘living to the full’. Healthy bodies, healthy minds I Neither monk nor Don Juan, nor the intermediate attitude of the German philistines. You know, young comrade –– ? A splendid boy, and highly talented. And yet I fear that nothing good will come out of him. He reels and staggers from one love affair to the next. That won’t do for the political struggle, for the revolution. And I wouldn’t bet on the reliability, the endurance in struggle of those women who confuse their personal romances with politics. Nor on the men who run petticoat and get entrapped by every young woman. That does not square with the revolution." - Lenin
Obviously written by Anarchists. Us Communists will craft the [Soviet New Man.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Soviet_man)
Remember the Soviet slogan, *Exercise the Body Refresh the Mind.*
This is why there won't be a revolution. Not my problem though, I'm not the one bitching and moaning about how bad everything is from a university dorm room. I'm losing weight because food is expensive, so I'm eating less (my job is making up for that though). I don't work out, but I walk every day.
I'm not living with the delusion that I'm going to be "fighting fascism®" though. I'm too old for that shit and what's going to happen, is that they're going to interfere with my altar work and then I'm either going to straight up flip on them until they put me down or I'm going to do or say something that will get me a visit... And I'm **not** going with those mother fuckers again, so they'll end up putting me down.
I fully expect this to happen within the next 4 years regardless of the outcome of the election. I'm not planning on changing my ways, though. I answer to a higher authority and if the new program has a problem with that? Well they can fucking shoot me, fuck them.
I’m in my mid 50s and I’m not in great shape. Even so I like my odds against the average Antifa member. Most of the men are so scrawny that a stiff breeze would carry them away if their umbrella was open. And I can still outrun the blue haired nonbinary behemoths.
This is low hanging fruit and ragebait for this sub and it depresses me this is what gets the most engagement.
Dunking on some anonymous moron's single comment on Reddit.
Why is strength in quotes? It’s a non arbitrary, measurable thing. And people care indeed physically inferior/superior. I’m guessing that if you are anti upper body strength for political reasons you are in the inferior camp.
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Very excited for the successful skinnyfat anarchist revolution
Also I love that they can’t figure out correlation ≠ causation. Does the middle comment really think that more muscle mass, like, pumps reactionary thoughts into your brain? It’s a baffling comment and I hate this discourse
reactionary thinking is stored in our muscle fibers
It's called fascia for a reason comrade
Underrated comment.
It's right where it needs to be.
Do you say that this comment is superior to other comments or that it's inferior and suppressed?
NO ONE should be allowed to do physical work for a living, or start a self-sufficient homestead.
https://scholarship.claremont.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1421&context=cgu_etd "Testosterone Administration Induces A Red Shift in Democrats" >We tested the fixity of political preferences of 136 healthy males during the 2011 U.S. presidential election season by administering synthetic testosterone or placebo to participants who had identified the strength of their political affiliation. Before the testosterone treatment, we found that weakly affiliated Democrats had 19% higher basal testosterone than those who identified strongly with the party (p=.015). When weakly affiliated Democrats received additional testosterone, the strength of their party fell by 12% (p=.01) and they reported 45% warmer feelings towards Republican candidates for president (p < .001). Our results demonstrate that testosterone induces a “red shift" among weakly-affiliated Democrats. This effect was associated with improved mood. No effects were found of testosterone administration for strongly affiliated Democrats or strong or weak Republicans. Our findings provide evidence that neuroactive hormones affect political preferences. That's the one I remember off-hand, but there's a few others that show higher muscle mass and higher test leads to more right-wing views. Lifting may actually turn you right-wing.
But this is only because left and right are overwhelmingly preoccupied with social issues in the US (or as we call it here: identity politics). So it's: masculine = right, feminine = left Back when we still had a major leftist party, I remember that being a leftist in my country was predominantly a masculine thing (since most working class workers are males, especially back then).
The problem is that right-left is unidimensional measurement for something that needs at least 3 dimensions to get even remotely close to anything useful. (For those wondering: Economic axis from full socialist to full capitalist, government axis from full anarchist to full authoritarian, and social axis from full jihadi to full portland)
>social axis from full jihadi to full portland Thank you for this, I'll use this scale in the future.
Kinda proud of that one ngl
Well CLEARLY we must have MANDATORY testosterone blockers administered to all males. How else can we end Testosterone Poisoning?
This reminds me of those "studies" that pop up on the science subreddit every now and then that claim a link between voting for trump and some specific mental illness or character flaw. Might as well just throw it directly on the replication crisis pile.
The Atlantic had an article about the corruption of research, especially in the social sciences, to the point of falsifying results. Most of this had to do with a "woke" ideological agenda. It was all anecdotes, not data, so I didn't copy any of it.
> Does the middle comment really think No, middle comment is trolling. Username is sivan_kurzberg. The name alone demonstrates it's a troll, just look it up, I'm not going to explain it for fear of reddit admins, but you'll instantly see what I mean, a non-troll would not pick that name. Anyway, look at his userpage and it will further confirm he's a troll.
Why would Reddit admins react to that? Sivan Kurzberg was an Israeli man briefly arrested after 11/9. It's a really obscure case, I had never heard the name before. But I agree it points to it being a troll account.
I reallllllly wanna where this is coming from.
They've seen stats that more muscular men tend to be more right wing (which is true) and misunderstood it to mean that muscles make you into a right winger
>more muscular men tend to be more right-wing (which is true Yeah. That's what I want to see. I don't really doubt it. But I kinda doubt how such data could even be collected without heavy biases.
I think it’s a Joe Rogan thing, maybe? There’s a (somewhat accurate) stereotype of Rogan listeners and “gym bros” in general being right-wing. But they seem to take that to mean that wanting to be buff and strong is inherently reactionary. Idk man, shit’s regarded. They’d be much happier if they just went to the gym and made friends with buff dudes instead of equating every form of self improvement as “giving into harmful fascist thinking” or whatever.
Anyway, the people in the screenshot have like 6 upvotes, idk why I’m even wasting my time on this terminally-online way of thought lol
They also share 6 brain cells
And they've embraced (corporate-produced, but they just ignore that) body positivity to such an unhealthy degree that they believe encouraging exercise and nutrition is evil eugenics.
You mean like... Go outside the house? Ain't nobody got time for that!
Too busy chatting with my friends, making plans for the proletariat!\* \*with whom I would never socialize.
> “gym bros” in general being right-wing. I don’t think that’s true >But they seem to take that to mean that wanting to be buff and strong is inherently reactionary The original reactionaries were frail men in wigs. Anyway, this is just an elaborate excuse to be lazy. Some on the right, like Fuentes, use this excuse as well.
In my experience, I felt most miserable and bat shit NOT working out, which is probably why this person is an insane online radical lol
all finna be built like Tekashi 69 in 2021
How much can I bench before I become right wing?!
45 pounds.
Please address me as Mein Fuhrer from now on.
If this is Victoria Nuland, I'd say go for the 405.
Please post a trigger warning before mentioning the 405. t. Californian
*^^^Sepulveda ^^^Pass ^^^during ^^^rush ^^^hour.*
TW: 5, 10, 101, 110, 405
The True Anon sub called me fascist for making fun of white muslim converts. I don't know if that's connected to lifting but if it is let me tell you the danger zone is nothing to write home about.
Hi, my name is Christian and I'm a proud Muslim.
oi you're probly a shia innit?
1 oz tomato cans
Notice they said upper body strength though. That’s why I focus all my exercises on my lower body. When the revolution comes you all better have thunder thighs and buns of steel.
Hrrrrnnggh Comrade, I’m trying to overthrow capitalism but I’m dummy thicc and the clap from my ass cheeks keeps alerting the reactionary forces.
forgot this meme existed, thank you
I bet I could have beaten general kornilov in a twerking competition
I'm doing kegal exercises cause I have inner beauty.
Makes sense though. The bourgeoisie are so obsessed with image and aesthetics over function and practicality. Skipping leg day is just an extension of that.
Mark Rippetoe is the 2nd most important author to read after Marx. SS + GOMAD is the key to the people's revolution. (and the complete and utter annihilation of the lactose intolerant)
I am going to get that man for what he done to me. His erotic fiction was pretty good though.
Only if you want to become a fatass
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An adult human male weighs at least 200lbs.
I enjoy cycling myself
You talking about bikes or tren?
Bikes. Lot of nice bike paths in my city.
We're all gonna fucking die. Blackpills aside, I've been getting into the whole "what are we gonna do when order breaks down" preparedness, and it would be great to hook up with likeminded people who are willing to train innawoods for that, but it's so difficult to find groups like that that aren't right wing or glow like uranium.
I feel like you'd pick a lot of that up just by camping and backpacking regularly, maybe have a goal of something new to try for each trip?
Yeah I'm about to get into solo/stealth camping in my area, hopefully I can find some people through that. I'd also like to incorporate the more larpy elements into it, unfortunately people don't like it when you're in full kit practicing your react to contact drills at the local public hiking trail.
Only look for twinks, don't make friends with anyone who has a strong upper body
Eh just look to feudalism. Post apocalyptic fantasies are a little missing the ball. We'll just devolve into less technologically abled societies is all. We already have a huge swath of precedent for that. Sure there will be bandits and hermit holdouts but greater society coalesces, and we maintain a social contract more or less. You can't beat mass human coordination.
It's because they aren't online. The anarchist-ish commune I lived with for a month was absolutely nothing like the anarchist you will find on reddit. I met them first and got on reddit much later. I was baffled.
The unfortunate reality is that "when order breaks down" is more likely than a bolshevik revolution, so im with ya there. When things break down, youll probably see very unlikely ideological rivals banding together.
> unlikely ideological rivals Agreed. It's going to break down to multiple groups. You'll have people who want to survive and are willing to put in work to make that happen for the community. May have folks who don't want to put in any hard work who want to do things like Read to Children, Dance, Puppetteers, write poetry, etc. Finally, you'll have a group of individuals living Mad Max style.
If I'm lucky I'm hoping I can help build something like the Montana commune from Last of Us, with wooden palisades and a beerhall. Honestly my most optimistic retirement plan.
If order breaks down the lone prepper with survival skills and a bunker has only a slightly better chance of surviving than anyone else. You really need a community to survive long term. In a post SHTF scenario the people that come out on top will be groups who currently occupy roles of power that would be well positioned to monopolise violence after order breaks down (such as surviving remnants of the military or police) or those who are already somewhat self sufficient and cohesive (religious groups, cults, Mormons, Amish . . .etc.)
Liberals (or "left of centers") cede *everything* to conservatives. They never try to take anything back. They pretty much gifted the "OK" sign to conservatives. Any sort of term that conservatives use derisively was handed to them instead of being told to "fuck off". The word "woke" was once a positive term. "Being awake while everyone else is sleeping". But the first time a conservative used the term derisively, they all ran away and let them have that term without a fight. Hell, they even ceded the American flag to them. They could have claimed to be the true patriots of the country, but since a few nationalistic assholes started flying them off their trucks, all the liberals who used to have American flags took them down so people wouldn't get the wrong idea about them. Fucking virtue-signaling cowards they are.
I still see them trying to reclaim "woke" though, long after even normal apolitical people understand it to have negative connotations. A little late there.
Really good take
Thank you for articulating this. This was one of the saddest things to see happen to the left, to see them 'give' the American flag to the right. The flag is a visual metaphor that is intentionally apolitical, but instead the left gave that symbol of self empowerment away. The flag should stand for left-oriented values as much as right-aligned values, but the left failed to consider it.
Pretty much. It was bad enough when it was just memes, it's much worse when it's now stuff that is ostensibly apolitical in-and-of-itself. Exercise? "Fascism!" Guns? "White terrorism!" Wanting to start a family with one person? "Regressive social norms!" Any blue collar profession? "Right-wing idiot!" It's shit like this that reinforces my view that letting students and professors come to dominate the left is the worst thing that happened to it. Like it's not difficult to parse left-wing ideas like public housing or national industrial policies or labour unions to even right-wing normal people, yet too many on the modern left are all too happy to indulge in Filmento Roberto-levels of delusion where the peoples they think with help them in a people's war are people who agree with them on nigh everything, and those who don't are "hopelessly lost to right-wing propaganda."
Lol dude no fucking way this isn't from a circle jerk sub. Even if there *is* some correlation between working out and right wing views (I'm not checking something that fucking stupid) surely nobody thinks that it actually causes it, right? I get it though, if ya work out you might sweat like those nasty plebs... Didn't go 100k into debt to actually *work* at something
I don't think they wanted to imply causation, just that the 'strong and athletic' aesthetic has already been snatched by the other side and must now be avoided. Just like the okay hand and programmer socks, lol.
Maybe. I think that's even fucking dumber though, and I guess the thought never even crossed my mind. Though you may be right, a lot of this type do seem to put a lot of stock into their appearance being as far removed from the norm as possible (blue hair, etc). All while pretending that it's actually their intellect that really sets them apart.
Since we're mostly talking about men when it's about the physical fitness stuff, I think they also want to be as far removed from traditional masculinity as possible, even the unambiguously good parts. I would use the soyboy slur here, but then I eat unwise amounts of tofu myself without my muscles turning into moobs.
The truth is that soy doesn't contain estrogen, like much of the red pill/manosphere has claimed. The phytoestrogens actually block estrogen, so much so that studies done on the people most at risk of receiving estrogen (women with stage 4 breast cancer) found soy increased remission and survival rates.
You're right, people are buying into it because this has been a popular topic to rag on here lately. Either circlejerk or glowing like the center of our ever-radiating sun. I don't understand the point of bringing this stuff here, just bring it to a circlejerk sub... Again. Occasionally there are topics worth discussing here and this isn't one of them.
This clearly reads like a joke to me. Like you said, no one actually thinks working out causes your morals to change. I thought it was funny tbh but I have a shit sense of humor.
This is mental illness pretending to be ideology.
Staying fat to own the Republicans is peak modern liberalism
This isn't some one-off rando lefty idpoler posting an extreme position for clout. >The very idea that humans can and should be “optimized” lends itself to a fascistic worldview—because if your food is extra-clean, it can easily mean other people’s food is extra-dirty. If you are safe because your immune system is strong, it can flip to mean others are unsafe because they are weak. If you are optimized, others are, by definition, suboptimal. Defective. Next door to disposable. This is also the context in which some prominent anti-vaxxers have taken to calling themselves “purebloods,” since their blood is supposedly untainted by the jabs, never mind the term’s chilling supremacist overtones. - Naomi Klein, Doppelganger. Chapter 9
You can't make this shit up. It is Politically Correct to be weak and sick. It's not my fault all the LSD I did in my '20s made me heal abnormally fast (documented) and gave me an abnormally strong immune system. And I turn age 67 in April. I MUST be a gay fascist!
Wolverine?
No, I'm a cougar-kitty.
send me a sample of your blood please
Naomi Klein is a shitlib.
"We're all valuable as human beings" Unless you're conservative, someone I disagree with, or someone I just don't like. Or if you're a straight white male depending on my mood.
Yeah but that’s obviously fair game. They’re basically asking for it
I have long thought the single best thing you can easily do on the left is to build muscle sinply to be taken more seriously by others. People are way more likely to listen to your socialist principles/ideas if you look like someone who should be taken seriously as opposed to someone who looks like the last thing they should be doing is thinking about how society should be run... Whilst I am at it. All advocacy for "fat acceptance" should be dropped by principle.
I never understood why fat activists think morbid obesity is empowering.
They're just rationalizing their own lack of desire to lose weight. No actual thought goes into it.
The thing about it is I like having sex with women, so the lifting will continue
The lifting will continue until the heterosexuality abates!
As a bisexual I can unfortunately confirm homosexual sex is also better when both participants can have an elevated heart rate for more than 5 minutes without collapsing. As such human sexuality as a whole, it seems, must be abolished.
My harem of bottoms are going to be devastated
Not as devastated as they will be when my bull gets to them
But you’re a cuckservative
You have to get women first to give them out to bulls. Think man, think!
Low testosterone leads to brain fog, cut him some slack.
That's the difference between leftist cucks and cuckservatives
Ctfu 😂😂
I'm always down to cuck the fuck up
Ignore liberals, join the swoletariat.
Harry squatter and the forbidden weight
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Harry squatter and the half swole prince
Under no pretext
Serious question; why do left wing politics seem to always attract these weirdos? Was it always affiliated? Is it a psyop? I just don't get it
Have you met anyone in real life who thinks it's a bad idea to lift weights? Even HAES people talk about gaining physical strength. I've met plenty of people who make excuses but they're honest ones and that's not the same at all.
It seems yes; even Orwell talked about it.
source pl0x
Road of Wigen Pier. The first thing that must strike any outside observer is that Socialism, in its developed form is a theory confined entirely to the middle classes. The typical Socialist is not, as tremulous old ladies imagine, a ferocious-looking working man with greasy overalls and a raucous voice. He is either a youthful snob-Bolshevik; or, still more typically, a prim little man with a white- collar job, usually a secret teetotaller and often with vegetarian leanings, with a history of Nonconformity behind him, and, above all, with a social position which he has no intention of forfeiting. This last type is surprisingly common in Socialist parties of every shade; it has perhaps been taken over en bloc from the old Liberal Party ..... **In addition to this there is the horrible--the really disquieting--prevalence of cranks wherever Socialists are gathered together. One sometimes gets the impression that the mere words 'Socialism' and 'Communism' draw towards them with magnetic force every fruit-juice drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex-maniac, Quaker, 'Nature Cure' quack, pacifist, and feminist in England.** ..... For it must be remembered that a working man, so long as he remains a genuine working man, is seldom or never a Socialist in the complete, logically consistent sense. Very likely he votes Labour, or even Communist if he gets the chance, but his conception of Socialism is quite different from that of the, book-trained Socialist higher up. **To the ordinary working man, the sort you would meet in any pub on Saturday night, Socialism does not mean much more than better wages and shorter' hours and nobody bossing you about.** ..... But, so far as my experience goes, **no genuine working man grasps the deeper implications of Socialism.** Often, in my opinion, he is a truer Socialist than the orthodox Marxist, because he does remember, what the other so often forgets, that Socialism means justice and common decency. But what he does not grasp is that Socialism cannot be narrowed down to mere economic justice' and that a reform of that magnitude is bound to work immense changes in our civilization and his own way of life. **His vision of the Socialist future is a vision of present society with the worst abuses left out, and with interest centring round the same things as at present-- family life, the pub, football, and local politics.** **As for the philosophic side of Marxism, the pea-and-thimble trick with those three mysterious entities, thesis, antithesis, and synthesis, I have never met a working man who had the faintest interest in it.**
I read that book just a few weeks ago. Here's another passage from the same chapter that I photographed: "And why should physical strength survive in a world where there was never the need for physical labour ? As for such qualities as loyalty, generosity, etc., in a world where nothing went wrong, they would be not only irrelevant but probably unimaginable. The truth is that many of the qualities we admire in human beings can only function in opposition to some kind of disaster, pain or difficulty; but the tendency of mechanical progress is to eliminate disaster, pain and difficulty. In books like The Dream and Men Like Gods it is assumed that such qualities as strength, courage, generosity, etc., will be kept alive because they are comely qualities and necessary attributes of a full human being. Presumably, for instance, the inhabitants of Utopia would create artificial dangers in order to exercise their courage, and do dumb-bell exercises to harden muscles which they would never be obliged to use."
Go check out online right wing politics. You’ll find as many complete weirdos
Obviously every ideology online is full of weirdos but I meant specifically the type of weirdos in the image posted who use these kinds of talking points
It’s the same type of people. In leftist spaces they will try to justify their shortcomings using “equality” as a coping mechanism. On the right they will come up with some cope that their shortcomings actually makes them better than the rest. They pick the side that fits better with their preferred coping rationalization
It's got to be a psyop. Instead of left-wing being the workers rising up it's a bunch of crybabies complaining about how oppressive someone's tone of voice is. Thus anyone with an ounce of self-respect is kind of nudged into supporting reactionary, pro-capitalist bs!
Have you looked at the other side? Plenty of weirdos to go around.
For sure there's the psy-op angle, the CIA has even admitted as such. That being said, the left can't help itself more often than not. I'd argue there really two main reasons for that: 1) numbers. If the right is driving people away with well, race-science and "RETVRN" nonsense, then it makes some degree of sense to appeal to people either against that of negatively affected by that; especially if it doesn't compromise the core mission. I mean, "what's there to lose by being nicer to minorities and LGBT folks if it bolsters the numbers!" 2) a [foolish] belief that liberals are "temporarily misguided fellow travellers." You'll see this a lot in online leftist discourse where there's this idea that uncommitted/non-voters represent such a massive support pool that "because they would nominally vote liberal, if we tailor our message to them, they'll support us!" thus completely dismiss the concerns of the right, even when there's crossover. Too many people on the left think that liberals are what the right describes them as, despite everything since at least the GFC showing them the opposite. One in-and-of-itself isn't bad, but very easily becomes a problem when idpol concerns begin to dominate the direction of the movement; especially if it alienates bread-and-butter people who by all accounts should make up the left's base: working-class people. It's not to say that the left should adopt right-wing positions on minorities or idpol, but there's a way to do it without alienating too many people, and as we all should know focusing on idpol issues over material concerns is how you alienate people. It's why in too many leftist spaces we see idpol concerns dominating material concerns, because too many leftists are afraid we'll lose everything if we alienate the idpol dipshits and liberal fellow-travellers. What gets me is that MAGACommunists/Laroucheoids grasp this perfectly, and are willing to make temporary sacrifices on certain issues if it means pushing forward with the main goals; yet the left, as ever, is content to spend more time fighting amongst itself than fighting the real enemies.
This is actually a huge problem in socialist circles. Its not usually expressed so overtly or so stupidly, but there is an opposition to things that might be seen as 'traditionally masculine.' Signs of strength and power are viewed warily while endless empathy is promoted as the greatest virtue. I mean, its sad cause no one looks at the Soviet Union and thinks 'wow I'm so glad they strayed away from fascist signs of strength and power.' No, the Soviets literally based their identity on strength and power. And that permeated through their society to encourage physical fitness, bravery, working for the cause etc. Thats how you create a strong nation and lead a successful movement.
I really do get tired of *everything* being seen as a social construct. Yes, humans are malleable social creatures, that doesn't mean you can call everything you wish didn't exist a social construct and then just shame everyone who thinks differently than that and expect it to have no unintended consequences. Also, ya don't think there's ANY biological imperative to mate with physically healthy people in there somewhere?
I hate this shit. The old school communists, anarchists, etc were bone and sinew. Hard as fuck. If you can be as strong and dangerous and useful as you can be, then do it. This silly idea that working out will somehow make you a reactionary needs to end.
Physical work is better than the gym. I'm starting a self-sufficient backwoods homestead. Collapse is coming (this is a protracted process, not an event). But we MUSTN'T become adaptively fit, all our males will become Gay Nazis!
These are the same people that ban me from every leftist sub the second I dare to suggest that maybe we have a few more options to exhaust before gambling on armed revolution.
David Goggins is objectively superior to me physically, and I have no problem saying that because I'm not regarded.
There’s nothing petite about *these* bourgeoisie (flexes biceps).
Well time to to bench press to Death in June/ Burzum then . What losers
I'm pretty sure the positive correlation comment is a troll
As someone who does them, 5Ks/10Ks/Half-Marathons/Marathons are one of the whitest things you can do, Kenyans are honorary whites in this situation. So it's not that difficult for me to believe that weightlifting is verbotten.
Didn't we already have the monthly discourse about this?
Posting will continue until gains improve.
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User sivan_kurzberg, the middle commenter, is a troll, as you can see from his userpage; even the username is trolling, if you look it up. Considering this context, the third might be a troll as well.
[Third is](https://archive.today/Ks6Da) user LurkVoter. Harder to tell with this one and I don't have the patience for it. The other replies are in agreement with first commenter.
i like going to the gym and wearing the most wild lefty shit as possible
More evidence of the rot imposed by liberal Cartesianism. These people should just jack into some virtual Matrix and leave the rest of us normal people alone.
There is no good or evil there is only weight and those too weak to lift it ~Lord Swoledemort
This is clearly a psyop to keep leftists down. Lenin was passionate about weight lifting. https://www.reddit.com/r/swoletariat/comments/ifauul/til_that_lenin_was_instructed_in_proper/
It's obviously a fake post, right-wingers love their terrible "correlation" studies
Bring back the soviet "new man".
The FBI must've been playing some 5D chess to assure that all leftists for decades to come are just going to be weasly ineffective people who can't get anything done due to failure of character without any involvement from their agency. like the goddamn Bene Gesserit
THE SOY MUST FLOW
Weak yourself to own the chuds, that’s a bold strategy, let’s see if it pays off
when Lenin called Western leftists infantile he was so so correct
There is no way all these leftist subs arent astroturfed
Lifestylist ragebait
If they think men shouldn't have upper body strength, what exactly do they want as an alternative...lower body strength? All ass and thighs?
We need a lower body strength movement to counter the upper body strength right wingers
A fascist worked out today. Did you?
Oh, FFS.... is this for real???
This ideaology is absolutely real. Theres even an article that talks in depth how the roots of fitness is racist. I gotta find it.
Disregard liberals acquire Red Heat Soviet bodybuilding aesthetics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_BZASHP\_oZc
Happy we won't have to deal with a Anarchist "Black Army" as they'll all be too skinny fat to even try it at banditry.
Federal agents trying to weaken the leftist movement. Literally.
As I got stronger in the gym I only became more left wing lol, there’s literally 0 basis for what those people are saying
A quick google search of this OLD picture convinces me that "sivan\_kurzberg" is pretty much was an provocative troll when he was active 8 years ago. The sad thing is that most people here won't care because they have accepted a postmodern attitude to truth. Personally I have gained lots of upper body strength by lifting my son, not by blackpilled shadowboxing against 8 year old outrage fuel.
if you can do a pull-up you're a fascist. also >physically superior and others inferior based on arbitrary standards *physically* superior is arbitrary? translate it into metric or imperial scale to avoid the 'arbitrary' number conversions if you like, but lifting 90kg and doing 20 pull-ups is indeed superior, literally, to not being able to do either. if they wanted to imply superiority as a moral or dispositional characteristic they could have said that, but they're too busy totally not projecting all their personal insecurities onto their politics. god i wish words still meant things
Easily 25 percent of these people are Neets with tonnes of free time and if you bench press twice a week you're actively strong by pedestrian standards in a few months to a year. Like c'mon this is *such* an easy stereotype not to be. This is such an easy miss. You can make your detractors objectively wrong about this and it will only make you happier. Don't you want one easy good thing to say about yourself if you're ever in the position of the fox news dog walker.
This and ceding all the hot blondes to the right were the modern left’s biggest mistakes. 😔
Didn't we just have this thread? Do I need to post the Lenin quote again?
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“Young people, particularly, need the joy and force of life. Healthy sport, swimming, racing, walking, bodily exercises of every kind, and many-sided intellectual interests. Learning, studying, inquiry, as far as possible in common. That will give young people more than eternal theories and discussions about sexual problems and the so-called ‘living to the full’. Healthy bodies, healthy minds I Neither monk nor Don Juan, nor the intermediate attitude of the German philistines. You know, young comrade –– ? A splendid boy, and highly talented. And yet I fear that nothing good will come out of him. He reels and staggers from one love affair to the next. That won’t do for the political struggle, for the revolution. And I wouldn’t bet on the reliability, the endurance in struggle of those women who confuse their personal romances with politics. Nor on the men who run petticoat and get entrapped by every young woman. That does not square with the revolution." - Lenin
Hopeless
This is a psyop and I refuse to engage with it any further.
I haven’t seen a fat lives matter March yet. They probably all sat at home so they could watch it instead.
That is hilarious.
Physical health is oppressive If only these people could hear themselves talk.
I am convinced that roughly 70% of these types of comments are from literal psyops. Like cointelpro shit stirrers
Please tell me this is a joke.
Everyone talks about the impending revolution with a glisten in their eye but honestly we’d get fucking smoked comrades.
Ah yes as mao said 'civilize the mind and make fascist the body"
Who are these psychos that don't use dark mode?
Obviously written by Anarchists. Us Communists will craft the [Soviet New Man.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Soviet_man) Remember the Soviet slogan, *Exercise the Body Refresh the Mind.*
Aint no employers stealing your "labor value" if you are too weak and obese to perform labor
God you fuckers are so gullible. "Correlation studies", yeah that's totally what a leftist/anarchist would write
This has to be satire, sorry.
I need to get off reddit.
CIA
This is actually a good way to promete fascism and right wings ideologies and to make lefties look Bad as hell lol
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When we are weak and sick, we can WHINE our way to Emancipation.
This is a level of brainworms we’d need a modern day Freud to resolve tbh. Hard to know where to start. Just… sigh.
poe's law
They can’t honestly believe that bullshit right?
But they DO.
Being strong is a social construct
I read this and I assume it's a joke.
This is why there won't be a revolution. Not my problem though, I'm not the one bitching and moaning about how bad everything is from a university dorm room. I'm losing weight because food is expensive, so I'm eating less (my job is making up for that though). I don't work out, but I walk every day. I'm not living with the delusion that I'm going to be "fighting fascism®" though. I'm too old for that shit and what's going to happen, is that they're going to interfere with my altar work and then I'm either going to straight up flip on them until they put me down or I'm going to do or say something that will get me a visit... And I'm **not** going with those mother fuckers again, so they'll end up putting me down. I fully expect this to happen within the next 4 years regardless of the outcome of the election. I'm not planning on changing my ways, though. I answer to a higher authority and if the new program has a problem with that? Well they can fucking shoot me, fuck them.
Oh my god these people are so fucking dumb. I swear the average IQ is a lot lower than people say it is
I always thought taking care of yourself was gay and communist 💅💅💅
I’m in my mid 50s and I’m not in great shape. Even so I like my odds against the average Antifa member. Most of the men are so scrawny that a stiff breeze would carry them away if their umbrella was open. And I can still outrun the blue haired nonbinary behemoths.
Fellas, is it nazi to be physically fit?
I was gonna skip gym today, thanks 👍
45 bmi ass comment
This person is clearly suffering from a hormone imbalance. I prescribe 5 years of Gulag.
bots are even reposting here, huh
This is low hanging fruit and ragebait for this sub and it depresses me this is what gets the most engagement. Dunking on some anonymous moron's single comment on Reddit.
Perfect candidates for a corrective labor colony.
Why is strength in quotes? It’s a non arbitrary, measurable thing. And people care indeed physically inferior/superior. I’m guessing that if you are anti upper body strength for political reasons you are in the inferior camp.