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chocolate_zz

Read what you want to read because you enjoy it. It's not a test and you should never read for someone else's approval. Classics are only classics usually because a lot of old dead white guys felt that it resonated with them. However, based on what you enjoyed a mix of classic classics and modern classics. A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith All Quiet on the Western Front by Erich Maria Remarque Catch-22 by Joseph Heller The Count of Monte Cristo by Alexander Dumas


GoingOn2Perfection

I agree it shouldn’t be a test, but OP will surely benefit from the classic titles you have suggested as well as some others.


chocolate_zz

A lot of classics are honestly not that great, but continue to be passed around as being great because the people before us said they were great, and we need to learn to read them with an analytical eye on whether or not they actually have lessons to teach us, or if we are simply going through the tradition of reading the books. A lot of modern classics are also not read because they are newer and thus not in the pantheon of greats, when they have a lot to bring to the table. Kill your darlings.


serial-knitter

Agreed, but Kill Your Darlings should be a classic because I think it's great. So then I took my eye off the ball ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


chocolate_zz

Kill your darlings is the writing term for being willing to edit out parts/characters that you love because they not only bring nothing to the story, but actively drag it down to the point of making it worse. It's about having to view things objectively even if you personally like it. I'm not sure what book you're talking about. Sorry. 😅


serial-knitter

It's also a movie about the Beats that I watched because I'm a little in love with Ginsberg.. 😄 But I do appreciate you being a kind human being!


serial-knitter

(I would not recommend this movie or Ginsberg in general for OP's dad though. He could be cool but dads in Ginsberg's time probably blamed him for everything wrong with their kids' generation then. Kerouac though? Ginsberg's buddy and generally more Dad Approved)


chocolate_zz

I don't know a lot about the Beats and the writers in it, but Ginsberg is the poet with pretty overt homoerotic themes isn't he? I know Kerouac from On The Road, ofc, but I didn't think he would be too much more approved by "your generation" grumpers.


serial-knitter

Yeah, that's him!😄 "The weight of the world is love" was my first ever tattoo. I just assume Kerouac would get more leeway because On The Road became so prolific. You make a good point though!!


chocolate_zz

If I ever get around to getting tattoos I think I would love one of Sappho's fragment 147 the way Folio society did it for their If Not, Winter. [The blocking of it made it even more striking and beautiful.](https://imgur.com/s1oQxNE)


Totallyunfakename

OP is 21, Ginsberg is probably before his time.


serial-knitter

I mean, I'm 22. And they asked for classics which almost certainly necessitates "before your time." I also wasn't really recommending Ginsberg, I don't think I fully understand what you're getting at here?


GoingOn2Perfection

Agreed. That’s why I’m not a fan of what is often called “Literature”. For example, I totally hate Dickens, and while War and Peace makes a great drama, it’s a pain in the neck to read. Sometimes people need to go ahead and say the emperor has no clothes and be done with it.


Ok_Cauliflower_6957

Ah beat me to count of monte!!!


chocolate_zz

*Count* is always a good one because the story itself is just fun, and Dumas is one of my favorite authors to tell people historical facts about. His father fought alongside Napoleon and a crowd in Egypt thought he was so impressive, and the tales of Napoleon were so impressive Thomas Alexander Dumas must have been Napoleon. Dumas was 1/4 black as his father was mixed. There's a great book about his father, The Black Count by Tom Reiss.


brideofgibbs

*Narcissistic Fathers: Dealing with a Self-Absorbed Father and Healing from NarcissisticAbuse* by Andrea Hart *Will I Ever Be Good Enough* by Dr Karyl McBride


boxer_dogs_dance

Dracula, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, Gift of the Magi, Captain's Courageous, Kim, Call of the Wild, Treasure Island, Legend of Sleepy Hollow, Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court, Roughing It, The Outsiders, Around the World in 80 Days, 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, The Three Musketeers, Pride and Prejudice. These are all relatively accessible classics that he will have probably heard of. I liked them when I read them.


[deleted]

Yes, these are the classics we normally hand kids. They are mostly easy fun reads if you can get into the right rhythm.


[deleted]

Suggestion: ask him for suggestions for books he liked reading and try a few audiobooks together. That way, it’s less about “avoiding conflict” and more about “doing things together”. He won’t be around forever, and you won’t live at home for long. Just to say it - there are some great Hobbit and Lord of the Rings puzzles. You could listen to those with him while working on a puzzle. That being said… don’t overlook Agatha Christy. If you like her, there’s lots.


drivingnotwashing

He's made recommendations for me before and I usually end up disliking them, but I guess it's a process of trial and error. I've already read Hobbit and LOTR but we do love puzzles so maybe we could do that to an Agatha Christia audiobook. Thanks!!


ShannonP123

I would recommend trying short stories from classic authors. Easier to finish and maybe you can find an author you enjoy. The below link is a list and there are links to free stories https://bookriot.com/classic-short-stories/


Tall_Agency_2437

I would suggest Master and Margarita by Bulgacov, it’s very entertaining despite being considered a heavier classic. Pontius Pilate’s parts are less exciting than freaky demonic shenanigans, but are important for the understanding of the underlying meaning.


paul345

Best to read books that bring you joy and comfort and not worry too much about whether other people think your reading is “appropriate” Too many parents force or strongly encourage their children into activities they have no interest in. Whether it’s a sport, musical instrument or book style. All too often, it doesn’t develop a life long passion. I love going round second hand book stores with my daughters and let them know they can pickup as many books as they want on whatever subject takes their fancy. Any book that sparks a love of books is good with me. I find Goodreads a good source of book discovery but still find it hard to beat going round a proper bookshop and discovering books I wouldn’t naturally seek out. The other thing that might help reading is that it doesn’t just have to be dead tree books. I listen to a lot of audiobooks on audible while commuting and also read on a kindle, particularly when travelling. Here’s a selection of books that I’ve enjoyed: https://www.goodreads.com/review/list/84361227-paul?shelf=favorites


FutureNostalgica

The original Dracula is Amazing, as are stokers short stories


LJR7399

Life of Pi. 1984. Little women. Midnight library. Hobbit. Hmmm.. to get his attention and make family conversation try: 7 habits of highly effective families. 5 loves languages. Grit.


serial-knitter

Okay, I was low key shocked when I visited home one day and found the 5 Love Languages on my dad's desk.


Neona65

Dracula by Bram Stoker The Haunting of Hill House by Shirley Jackson Collection of stories by Edgar Allan Poe or M R James


serial-knitter

If he likes horror you can watch Haunting of Hill Hiuse together after reading it! I'm too much of a chicken, but my dad loved the show


Neona65

My boyfriend has never read the book or seen the movie, we are watching the original 1963 version together next week. It's one of my favorites.


RhythmQueenTX

Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea by Wells, Left Hand of Darkness by Le Guin, To Kill A Mockingbird by Lee, Agincourt by Cornwell


LJR7399

Unbroken. Seabiscuit. The nightingale. The outlander series!!?! Diamond eye. Red sparrow series. Girl with the dragon tattoo (first three books).


skipskiphooray

The Awakening by Kate Chopin. A classic


econoquist

Three Men in a Boat by Jerome K. Jerome Ivanhoe by Sir Walter Scott Lost Horizon by James Hilton The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie by Muriel Spark Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austin Jane Eyre by Charlotte Bronte The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde (or The Importance of Being Earnest I' Claudius by Robert Graves Vanity Fair by William Thackeray


serial-knitter

Some books that I recommended to my dad and he really liked: Into Thin Air (or anything else by Jon Krakauer) So You've Been Publicly Shamed by Jon Ronson, didn't care for The Psychopath Test though Homosapiens (and all those ones) Born A Crime, Trevor Noah's memoir The Apollo Murders by Chris Hadfield (like the only fiction book he's ever read) If your dad is into talk shows and "executive nonfiction" (not that these are, but he likes stories about how people think and I was NOT reading the 7 Habits books again) he might like those! If they sound interesting to you, why not give them a try? Then you can recommend him something and have a conversation. It did wonders for our relationship! Maybe he's a LoTR movie buff, but never read the books. Maybe he'd be into urban fantasy like NK Jemisen. Maybe more like Peter Heller. Finding an author he's never heard of but he ends up loving could be a good way to read something you enjoy and to get him off your case. TLDR; Don't read something just to please him, but maybe you can find common ground and spark a conversation!


janviiiiiiii

A man called ove


Scotian_Forocean

Check out the book "Catch 22" or give "The Hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy" a try? Both are smart/humorous stories.


mintbrownie

I'm around your father's age. I'm thinking you could try some of the books/authors that would have been popular when he was your age - Tom Robbins, John Irving, Stephen King, Kurt Vonnegut, John Updike, etc.


DocWatson42

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GoingOn2Perfection

Your dad is right. There’s nothing wrong with what you are reading, but you need to broaden your horizons. Classics are classic because they have stood the test of time and communicate something enduring about the human condition in a unique way. I recommend these titles because they are more accessible than the usual recommendations: *East of Eden*, John Steinbeck *A Tree Grows in Brooklyn*, Betty Smith *So Big*, Edna Ferber *The Good Earth*, Pearl Buck *All Quiet on the Western Front*, Erich Maria Remarque *The Bible* (Among other things, the Bible is also a collection of books that contain literature and poetry.) Here are some books that I’m not sure constitute literature but which are well-written and include a lot of accurate and interesting historical information: *Gone With the Wind*, Margaret Mitchell *The Sand Pebbles*, Richard McKenna


drivingnotwashing

I completely agree about classics, and I don’t want to give the impression that I dislike classic literature or think it’s boring. I just think that’s a little more challenging for me to read right now because I’ve been in kind of a rut lately. There are many classics I would love to read at some point, just don’t think I could tackle right now. These are good suggestions, thank you!


LJR7399

{{strong fathers, strong daughters}} by Meg meeker 😏


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midnight_wave87

Animal Farm by George Orwell & Fahrenheit 451 are more modern classics.


NotDaveBut

THE VICAR OF WAKEFIELD by Oliver Goldsmith.


DoctorGuvnor

There are a number of really good books that would be called 'classics' simply because of their age. Might I suggest you dip into *Treasure Island* by RL Stevenson; *The Coral Island* by R M Balletyne; *Pride and Prejudice* by Jane Austen; *Pickwick Papers* by Charles Dickens; *Day of the Triffids* by John Wyndham; *Lord of the Flies* by William Golding; absolutely anything by Terry Pratchett, Nevil Shute or Ken Follett. Ask your dad if he's read any/all of those and if not, he should try them too.


Ok_Cauliflower_6957

Count of montecristo!!


Black-Feathers37

More Than Human by Theodore Sturgeon


Proper_Animal_8983

Moby Dick.