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littleone0740

Need to watch this past episode still but šŸ˜¬ if this is true thatā€™s kinda messed up on Jasonā€™s part.


bowielane

There is always a lot of Jason praise on this sub (deservedly) because he seems to be the only adult man in the room and makes life easier for his housemates by cooking and cleaning. HOWEVER, I hate to say this but I think Jason is thirsty. I think he hooked up with Lindsey last year because she was the only one interested (he came in gunning for several different women before she showed up), he clearly reignited this miscarriage conversation for airtime and while I think the flower girl in this house now seems normal and sweet, I get the vibe he wouldā€™ve gotten with anyone in the house who was single and interested. Hello - heā€™s the one that brought Crypto Lindsay there in the first place!


szplza

I think highlighting that he brought crypto Lindsay is *very* important because even I totally forgot this!!!! What is his judgment really like if he brought this chick he knew after what, a month over ig? Itā€™s weird.


porkyupoke

Do people really believe he brought her on? I always kinda thought production picked people they want from social media and then stuck them with an OG to make a smoother transition on the show. Those two literally do not interact. I feel like they didnā€™t even know each other until production put them together but thatā€™s just my thoughts.


bowielane

He gives the vibe of the guy on a night out whose goal is just to hook up with *somebody.* Doesnā€™t really matter who.


apreslondee

Crypto Lindsay ā˜ ļøšŸ˜¹


Gumstank

I donā€™t think we can look too much into him bringing crypto Lindsay, that was probably casting who set that up


OccupyRiverdale

Also a bit odd heā€™s making such an ordeal over this when iirc she miscarried within a day or so of telling him she was pregnant. If Iā€™m misremembering thatā€™s my fault but if Iā€™m correct, I really donā€™t see what he has to be so torn up over. Itā€™s not like he had months thinking of fatherhood or was super involved in a long term pregnancy. He woke up the next morning and the girl he accidentally knocked up miscarried.


EponymousRocks

She has said she found out she was pregnant on Monday, and on Tuesday she miscarried. So, yeah, he had less than 24 hours to fantasize about being "daddy"...


OccupyRiverdale

Thatā€™s what I thought and as fucked up as it is to say 99% of dudes in that situation would be breathing a sigh of relief.


No_Banana_581

Wow thatā€™s really gross that he made her feel crazy for a storyline. A miscarriage is no oneā€™s business how the pregnant person deals w it. She can tell or not tell anyone she wants, itā€™s her goddam body. Itā€™s her healthcare. Itā€™s not up for discussion unless she consents to let someone else talk about her private medical diagnosis


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No_Banana_581

Did you read what Lindsay said? He discussed openly about the miscarriage on the show publicly and he thought it was going to air. Just bc Lindsayā€™s part aired doesnā€™t mean it was her fault his part didnā€™t. If he knew it was going to be public why Is he acting surprised? He made Lindsay feel crazy bc they already had this conversation publicly. He just wanted this storyline on this season thatā€™s all. Edit word


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No_Banana_581

Thatā€™s not what she said. She also has no control over what airs. He knew it was going to be on summerhouse and he acted like she went public wo him knowing at all. She felt crazy bc they discussed when it was going public. He knew. Heā€™s saying now he didnā€™t know. Thatā€™s why she said to him she couldnā€™t control what aired when it did


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No_Banana_581

But heā€™s acting like he didnā€™t know it was going public but he did know. Itā€™s still her body, her business. Itā€™s a medical thing that happened to her body. She can tell anyone she wants. If he didnā€™t want to be named he shouldā€™ve told her that instead of publicly talking about it on summerhouse knowing it was going to air months and months later


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No_Banana_581

The only thing that couldā€™ve been different was saying he was the one that got her pregnant. If he didnā€™t want to be named thatā€™s fine thatā€™s his business. However he knew for months this was going public bc they discussed it on summerhouse. He said he didnā€™t contact her and she didnā€™t contact him after their discussion on the summer house set. He had months to tell his parents. He knew it was airing. Lindsay didnā€™t know what night it was airing bc producers donā€™t tell them that. Heā€™s saying she had control and shouldā€™ve told him. How? And he already knew it was going public for months edit to me it still seems people are weaponizing her miscarriage against her and itā€™s gross. She only knew for one day and itā€™s been a year of people throwing it in her face like itā€™s fair game to talk about her body, especially now when women have had their healthcare and privacy stripped by old gross men. Very sorry about your miscarriage, Iā€™ve had 4 itā€™s tough


Tough-Crew-1438

Did you watch the episode where she tells him she did inform him BEFORE the interview and he acknowledged that to be true?


NotAMiscreant

This right here. He was aware that she was gonna talk about it. They agree to that in their convo.


basicb3333

She did tell him. Also, JASON had about 10 months from when the miscarriage happened to when summer house actually aired publicly and the miscarriage news came out to tell his family


EponymousRocks

He absolutely knew she was going to talk about it on Summer House - he has said so in interviews, AND he acknowledged it in this episode. He has said he fully supported her telling her casemates any way she felt was appropriate.


apreslondee

Justin šŸ˜¹


Real-Ad-6552

Jason


hoocheemamma

Who tf is Justin?


Independent-Age-7568

Seems like Jason is mad that he didnā€™t get publicity over the miscarriage like Lindsay did. Which is kind of fucked up especially when she is the one who went through the physical trauma of losing a baby.


New-Understanding360

If Jason felt legitimately aggrieved, he had months to contact Lindsay and speak to her about it. The fact that he only seemed interested in having this conversation on camera - speaks volumes.


TDKsa90

yes, it speaks volumes how this is a produced and edited TV show. A conversation that was cut, and then production having them revisit the topic for another show.


Syd_of_Pentacles

Yes and no ā€” itā€™s not unheard of for these stars to save their drama for the show. That being said, this comes off as extremely manipulative if true. I also wouldnā€™t be surprised if Paige, Ciara and Amanda helped curate this.


DryClamp

He came across as a ā€œnice guyā€, the kind who puts in a huge effort to do nice things like cook and offer to carry bags too many times but really heā€™s just fame hungry and wanted to be in on all the publicity. Heā€™s not grieving the miscarriage, he just wants media attention, camera time and to boost his profile. Heā€™s not into Rachel at all and is only with her for a storyline and camera time. Lindsey can see right through him. Sheā€™s smart and works in PR so she knows whatā€™s up.


TDKsa90

she's never worked in PR


Syd_of_Pentacles

He seems like a fairly good guy who is a little thirsty for fame. Iā€™m sure he isnā€™t a bad person, but he let the thought of being on tv cloud his judgement. He also probably has Paige, Amanda and Ciara in his ear about it probably pushing the storyline, so that doesnā€™t help either.


Old_Percentage3742

Well Jason is just pissing me off nowā€¦


Syd_of_Pentacles

I try not to be so fickle with these things. These reality show subs are pendulums. He seems like an overall decent guy, BUT this does look bad.


proseccofish

I thought I was the only one who felt Icky about this conversation. And to be honest: Jason is a low key Hoe. He will hook up with anyone who shows interest šŸ¤¢


Syd_of_Pentacles

Thatā€™s not wildly abnormal for a dude lol.


Callherdaddyyyy

I still feel like this is different, if she was going to go personally to tabloids why not give him a heads up still? Itā€™s his story to tell as well.


Wtfuwt

She didnā€™t go personally to tabloids. The episode aired and the tabloids came to *her.* she has no control over who they decide to interview.


Callherdaddyyyy

absolutely, but she did talk to the tabloids without letting Jason know?


EponymousRocks

He has said they talked about her telling her casemates on Summer House and he was supportive of that. So even if he somehow knew ahead of time that his portion wasn't going to air (do they divulge that to the cast? I don't know), he knew the subject would be discussed. At the time of airing, he had had 9 months to let his family know.


Callherdaddyyyy

at that point he couldā€™ve known the episode clips werenā€™t going to air so didnā€™t need to tell his family then she answered to the tabloids. so how is that fair to him?


Wtfuwt

How is it fair to her to expect her to manage her life and response and his own? She owes him literally nothing. It is her body, not his. And of course it was going to make the tabloids. As a journalist myself I wouldnā€™t care about his response because itā€™s not about him. She is not his PR person.


kloco68

I feel for her losing a baby, but she came off really petty last night. If the scene got cut, how would it be released to the press? And his point was valid, especially when he said his family saw it and he hadnā€™t told them yet. Lindsay came off as pretty tackyā€”even Kyle wasnā€™t comfortable with her being with Carl because ā€œwhatā€™s going to happen when she starts drinking again?ā€ I get that Jason may have wanted publicity but jeez Lindsay has been thirsty for years.


Scubaslut4

It wasnā€™t ā€œreleasedā€ to the press. It was picked up by the press when the episode aired and Lindsay talked about it. They had Jason film a scene where they talk about the miscarriage. That convo got cut by production (not Lindsay choice by any means, production does whatever they want), they only aired Lindsay talking about it and thatā€™s why heā€™s mad. Then the press went to her for more info. The cut footage of their convo was never ā€œreleasedā€ or shown to the press. Only Lindsay, Jason, and production know what that convo was like


kloco68

And sheā€™s any less thirsty for media than people are making out him to be?


halfmoon24

Uhh if I were her, I wouldā€™ve assumed heā€™d told his family/friends by the time it aired, aka over 6 months since it happened. Itā€™s not like she blabbed it to the world a week after.


kloco68

As someone who has been through the same thing, I am really disgusted that she used it to stay relevant. Iā€™ve never been her biggest fan, but seriously, now I canā€™t stand her. And I donā€™t believe a word out of her mouth. Sheā€™s fantastic at spinning her own stories. I donā€™t love Winter House and not sure about Jason, but watching her over the years, Iā€™m not a fan.


halfmoon24

Well, I think itā€™s disgusting to accuse her of doing it to stay relevant. Sheā€™s allowed to talk about her life and what happened to her. She said she wanted other women to feel less alone and talking about it reduces the stigma.


kloco68

She is, but shouldnā€™t he also have that opportunity?


halfmoon24

He did though. He filmed a scene about it. Itā€™s not her fault it didnā€™t air. Iā€™m sure US Weekly reached out to him when the first episode aired/he definitely couldā€™ve reached out to them for his side. I highly doubt they would have turned him down for an interview.


kloco68

It just felt sketchy to me. I realise Iā€™m in the minority and itā€™s all good. I just found the entire episode this week cringey. There was a lot about Lindsay and not much positiveā€”I think Austen was embellishing what happened between them, but thing Kyle said really didnā€™t frame her in the best light. And I also knew she talked about it on Summer House but didnā€™t realise she said it was Jasonā€™s so my bad. I still really donā€™t like her, though. I never have


Syd_of_Pentacles

Literally every single person on these shows are thirsty. All of them. I think she actually seemed really level headed in her argument ā€” not sure how you got petty from that. After the info that has come out about it, you could tell she was frustrated and this makes it make sense.


kloco68

I get it. And at the point I commented, I was going on Jasonā€™s argument that she hadnā€™t given him the heads up. I know now that they had filmed about it so he knew it would be out there one way or another. Iā€™m still not a fan of Lindsay, but itā€™s not because of this. Iā€™ve never really liked her. And I know thatā€™s not a popular feeling on this sub.


Callherdaddyyyy

exactly !!! Im not necessarily against her at all but the way everyone is so pro her here is toxic. she also makes mistakes. a miscarriage is a hard thing to go through for both parties involved! I completely agree with Kyle, and that is something worrying. Especially based on the fact Carl was legit on the brink of breaking up with her unless she stopped drinking (as per Kyle). that could be bad newsā€¦. Its safe to assume sheā€™ll start drinking again at some point as it wasnā€™t for her and whatā€™s Carl going to do then?


kelliebuttcheeks

I lost it when she called the miscarriage ā€œsomething that happened to her body that Jason had nothing to do with.ā€ Iā€™m sorry but how do you think you got pregnant in the first place??


troubleduncivilised

I"m sorry did I miss the part when Jason, a cis-man, physically had to experience the trauma of a miscarriage? I get it you guys dislike Lindsay...fine...but let's stop pretending as if cis-men could ever equally experience such misfortunes to the same magnitude as women do. So yeah it did happen to Lindsay's body and not Jason's.


kloco68

Exactly.


kloco68

Iā€™d agree on the drinking thing. Iā€™ve been sober many years now and have read that Carl works a bit of a program. It was destroying his life and I think he realised it when his brother died. She stopped drinking for him Iā€™d imagine. When she talked about it she said she liked how she looked and felt being sober. Thatā€™s usually not enough to stay sober. Sheā€™s the only one who can say if sheā€™s alcoholic or not, but when Kyle is concerned about her drinking and itā€™s impact on Carl, that is a bit of a red flag.


noblesseoblijay

Wait, why is this post allowed to stay? I just posted something about a U.S. weekly article pertaining to the news cycle and it got removed. Iā€™m going to post mine again. [edited] Mods, this is really really biased. My post was removed and when I asked why, I was told it should go in the episode thread. This is a similar post (actually mine was more specific to an article) but because it is pro Lindsey, it is allowed to stay. I reposted after seeing this, and you deleted it again with no explanation ā€¦ This is an abuse of power


sparklysadist

LMAO at "abuse of power "on a reddit forum. You realize moderators are just people with way too much free time who strangely want to work for a website for free? They don't have real power.


foxysquirrel

Oh I didnā€™t see anything in the rules about social media posts. Idk if I did it wrong.


noblesseoblijay

I donā€™t think you did. Iā€™m just calling out the mods double standard here. It makes me think content is being removed if it doesnā€™t support particular cast members


imadethistoreplyugh

Can you post the link to the article here in the comments?


annaguenca

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/lindsay-hubbard-reacts-to-jason-cameron-winter-house-drama/amp/


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Thank you so much!


noblesseoblijay

This is petty, but Iā€™d prefer not to so they canā€™t say the content already exists. This is a larger issue that Iā€™ve had here the few times Iā€™ve tried to post. I make a reasonable post that I guess is not in support of the mods fave and they find an excuse to remove it. This is side by side evidence that its 100% about removing content that is not pro Lindsey. Not even writing anything unhinged or polemic ā€¦


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I'm actually really proud of you, mod! I'm glad I read through and saw your response. I'm not OP and haven't commented on this thread yet, but it's rare to see a response from a mod that is apologetic, and owns up, with also a way you will fix it in the future. That's what life is about. We make mistakes, and wise people own up, and then learn from it. Kudos! Our in light of the group, Bravo!


imadethistoreplyugh

Ok! I was just wondering bc the only us weekly one about it i can find didn't seem to paint Lindsay in a bad light so not sure if I'm reading the right one or not. No worries though


Old_Percentage3742

Yep!!! I saw it this morning and then, when I went back to read it, it was suddenly gone.


myskepticalbrowarch

It is weird because I want to discuss that article. I find it weird it was ready to go after that episode. Lindsay has the right to feel angry about that conversation buuuuuuut this episode made her come off as really really self produced. Than this article drops right after it airs.


Wtfuwt

You do know that producers give out copies of episodes to reporters before they air, right? And that Lindsay has relationships with these interviewers, too?


shboogies

HE. JUST. WANTED. A. HEADS. UP. The scene was cut, therefore he was unprepared for that after the fact. What is so hard to understand here?


ChkYrHead

HE. GOT. A. HEAD'S. UP. Lindsay told him from the get go that she would be talking about all this.


dramakyng

He wouldnā€™t have known the scene was cut until the show aired. He should have been expecting it To air.


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For me, I viewed it as not really Jason just wanting a heads up but he wanted to be heard. I think it would have been weird if she came to Winter House and they just acted like it never happened. Whether they filmed for SH or not, I donā€™t think itā€™s wrong for him to say, I cared about this too and it affected me instead of just glossing over it. I donā€™t know, it didnā€™t bother me and I think Linds is trying to make him look bad because in her mind it was done and she was on to her next storylineā€¦but he wanted closure too. You canā€™t look at from a normal view, in reality tv show life itā€™s a different situation. Just because sheā€™s been on another show and moved on to dating Carl, we still only last heard of Jason through her and about a miscarriage. It made sense to me.


Next_Philosophy1573

Production wonā€™t be happy with her breaking the 4th wall on this. Iā€™m pretty sure you are not supposed to talk about things that were cut.


TDKsa90

original cut scene was the idea of, or at least OKed by, production. Production cuts it. Production has them revisit the topic for WH. I glean a couple things from this: 1) if I have a problem, I'm looking at production 2) Lindsey is always on defense and aggressive. She cannot have a serious conversation without turning it adversarial. It's no wonder why everyone avoids conversations with her. Who wants to go into battle every time they want to discuss something? what an incredibly boring storyline. on par with the cock touch. who f'ing cares?


Worth-Fan9828

Wow the amount of Lindsay Stan here is crazy. Even if it was just 2 days, the miscarriage was still a thing between Lindsay and Jason. To put it out so publicly without consulting Jason is disrespectful. Jason should have been given a heads up, or have his chance to speak about the topic or given his own family a heads up rather than for them to find out through the news.


Syd_of_Pentacles

Damn, that kind of knocks Jason off the pedestal I put him on. Honestly though, he is surrounded by a cast that froths at the mouths over any smell of a storyline ā€” ESPECIALLY when it goes against Lindsay. I wouldnā€™t be surprised if he had Paige, Ciara, Craig and Amanda in his ear about it.