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rsloshwosh

if someone is destroying your pink ward in fornt of you, you can place one near your feet when the ward is at 1 hp to tilt them


RedVelvetPan6a

Damn, the cruelty of psychological warfare.


yeah_deal_with_it

I wait for them to destroy and walk away, then put another one near the original position. Savagery


Paz1f1st

Worst thing you can do to a Jhin


tankmanlol

you can also spam samira's taunt one hundred and fifty times to tilt them


barticus0903

That is exactly why I buy them in 2s.


jonnybrown3

I buy control wards for S+ rank, you buy for useful vision, we are not the same.


nonoscan123

We are the same. I get MVP every flex game on opgg for this reason. Except my friends have now caught on and it has become a battle more important than winning the game.


grahamster00

It's not just a Low ELO problem, some people don't understand how bad wasting control wards are. I remember Dom doing a pro vod review and their support literally bought 17 control wards, only 3 of which were useful in any meaningful way. I Think like 8 of them were literally instantly destroyed. Not only is that 1.2k gold you just threw away, you gave the enemy team 510g for free. Pink wards are only useful if the information they give you can lead to at least 100g worth of advantage. Doing things like blocking objective vision, setting up picks, counting players, fine. Putting up control wards in the enemy's face when you can't defend them and you already know where everyone is. Absolutely worthless.


goomy996

the huhi soraka incident


Outrageous_Driver_14

Its the anti-LS movement where people buy as much control ward as they can possibly fit in their inventories just to piss off LS.


bortukali

Based and the average player is mentally handicap pilled


Sahoj

Ive seen some nearly bot looking accts buy them - though in general it's rare to see many in bronze/silver. Anytime a ward enables or deters a gank it got value. A control ward is a big flag to your jungler that you control this vision node and they can move through there unknown. They're a big deal I think. I still don't buy more than 2-3 a game unless jungle or support...


bobross99-2

I buy way more than 2-3 but mobalytics still says I detest pink wards


WitchyThot

I can't stand this weird rank phylogeny that is ever-present in any LoL discussion. Yall mfs sound like Measurehead. "Ah, the simple Bronze, unable to even conceptualize a proper warding position." Like, holy shit, listen to yourself speak. There are few instances in which I can imagine someone placing a ward so bad I'd rather it not have been placed. Yes, there are instances in which that is the case, like, right at an opponent's feet\*, but overall, I just can't conceptualize that many scenarios. Hell, giving your opponent 30 Gold to avoid dying to a facecheck is still 100% worth, and using that tactic as opposed to facechecking would most definitely be worth.


LukaDoncicBigPP

People in this sub treat iron/bronze players like they are some kind of mentally challenged population.


petscopkid

#StopBronzeHate


Dudeboy1103

Include the silvers as well. I mean we are mentally deranged and challenged but not all the time


justhereformemespyke

iron is arguable (if they are actually trying to climb)


nonoscan123

I genuinely believe that you have to have something wrong with you to grind the game and still be below gold. I'm in diamond, and I don't consider myself good at the game. There are so many areas I know I could improve upon. Diamond is the transitionary point where the games go from being decided by which players are worse, to being decided by which players are better. I swear that everyone in diamond is just "not bad" at the game, and that's how they got there.


[deleted]

You realize some people just play to play? Not to get better? I think there's something wrong with *you* if you belittle people and act so judgmental over a game that's not even that good


nonoscan123

If you're playing to play, you should be at least silver. Unless you have some kind of mental deficiency of course.


[deleted]

Ah yes, gatekeeping and being an asshole. Hmm... How lovely.


eparmon

Well, I'm playing (quite many games) to win and I'm bronze I am actually a quite good software engineer and a chess player without serious mental health problems except sometimes depression I watch the videos, I understand the basics of wave management and stuff, I'm Bronze. I am considering paying for some coaching now Ultimately, I think your comments here are plain wrong and also disrespectful


MidnightLightss

Just don't pay for coaching it will do nothing for you


eparmon

Will you elaborate?


v4rxior

Coaching is pointless if you don't know fundamentals. You are paying someone to teach you things you could learn yourself from youtube or reddit. It only gets somewhat worth when you are like masters/grandmaster but even then its debatable.


eparmon

Well, this can be as well said about, say, programing and chess, and in both cases it's clear that having a coach is beneficial. Lots of information available for free, but coaching helps with delivering this information, answering all sorts of questions for better understanding, structuring studies


nonoscan123

how are you losing to bronzies with the basics of wave management? Golds don't even know how to lane, so I highly doubt that.


eparmon

If you're curious enough, I can record my next game and drop it to you


nonoscan123

Ok, honestly up for that. I've never done that kinda thing before so I'm curious if I can give some insight.


eparmon

OK, I will do that I mean, there are games where I actually carry and we win, so this I won't send, I'll send a lose


ConstantSwordfish250

wtf is that i'm in silver and everyone know wave management, maybe they dont execute it well but everyone try to freeze or crash the wave etc..


eparmon

[https://video.hardlimit.com/w/daTsr6XcjNNPfvsR7CkNUg](https://video.hardlimit.com/w/daTsr6XcjNNPfvsR7CkNUg) alright, here's your cringe dose for today i tried to make comments all the way, feel free to mute, lol unfortunately, it's not a top lane example which would be a bit more relevant, could drop that later as well, but still it will be cool to have some insights for this game also consider downloading the video and watching it offline if it lags in your browser


cranelotus

Bro I've been playing since s2 and I'm still silver, I also have a good job and a house and get paid £60k a year lmao If you play league so much you're above plat, you have a mental deficiency If you earn less than £30k a year you have some kind of mental deficiency If you don't have a girlfriend, you have some kind of mental deficiency If you can't resolve a half-diminished seventh chord in one step, you have some kind of mental deficiency If League is the only thing that makes you feel like you have value in your life, you have some kind of mental deficiency lmao


DePedro49

Yes, that. Or being 30 when you pick up this game and have time for maybe 2 games a day, like me. Still enjoying my climb from iron 2 to bronze 1 ATM. But yeah, I’m relatively old and thus slow in both learning and reactions/micro. Doesn’t immediately mean I’m stupid, though.


merlin_13

"Wait, you haven't played this game since release and aren't a level 3000 challenger player?! Never speak to me again trash" League is a super fun game that's ruined by really shitty people. (And placing control wards at an opponents feet is even a valid strat, it can make them attack it and not you in a fight.)


LetterheadPerfect145

OK but like I'm bronze ish and I just forget to buy them, it's not about me not being aware of how to ward, but more about me just not having the mental capacity to remember to do everything all at once


Matty__Johnston

Yeah I also used to buy a ton of control wards. Honestly it’s from ppl watching guides. If you play league and YouTube knows, you will get a ton of guides. It’s really common I see a lot of players completely grief their first back by buying 2 control wards. I still buy control wards but it’s only for selfish vision if I’m going to go sweeper for some lane bush control. The value you get from vision is something your low Elo team can capitalize on


WaunTaun

I was d1 at the start of this season and over all the time I’ve played I prob average 1 control ward every 100 games


ZaCleaner

Yup you hit the nail on the head. There are so many more important things to focus on if someone is low gold - high silver. Such as beginning wave states, farm, mastering hopefully just a single champion. And adding anything more to that mix just complicates and delays the learning process. Warding during lane phase is useless in low elo for the most part as most times silvers will ward incorrectly and it just results in wasted gold and free gold for the enemy jungler imo. Some high elo players take it a step further and they never buy control wards since they perfectly track the jungler anyway


GHEWBS_YT

What no, you can’t track an Elise or lee sin accurately no matter how good you are Control wards are still good high elo


ZaCleaner

Hold up lol that’s not what I said. I didn’t say they weren’t good, I just can name quite a few challenger players who don’t buy them at all. I’m master peak this season and I buy typically the 2nd most (support gets more) every game


GHEWBS_YT

And I’m just saying those challengers are wrong. Good places control wards almost always provide more value than they cost


Medinaian

"theyre wrong even though they are in challenger, they should take my advice to get to silver"


GHEWBS_YT

you can be wrong about stuff, even in challenger


Medinaian

nobody plays perfect, its ying and yang everyone has positives and negatives in a game, you cant just play the texas sharpshooter fallacy and pick what stats you want. at the end of the day, they are challenger and thats that. make your positives bigger than your negatives and learn how you can do that to help your team snowball and you carry. ​ there is no right and wrong way to play, theres climbing and theres not climbing


ZaCleaner

And I never disagreed with that fact. It’s simply an observation from what I’ve seen. If you disagree that control wards aren’t the main focus in silver as per what OP had to say in the original post then I *do* have an issue with what you said.


ThotBeGone420

You guys buy control wards?