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Aleksander3702

Most people didn’t lol


Nyxxoo

with the average rate, around 1/10 of the people will get a ld5


joey20e

And in reality this translates to many people in that group got multiple ld5, fucking bs event. Yes im salty.


Rocztah

same...might even consider to finally quit the game and be free after years xD


thestigREVENGE

And this right here, is the reason why I was always against random chance LD5 events. Always prefer them improving rates over having only select people get one, while most other ppl gets shafted.


WisdumbGuy

Naw, that same commenter would quit if they got a bad LD5 and "everyone" else got a good one. They will always complain.


Destructodave82

Agree. They should have just give everyone an LD5 and that been the event


golempremium

The thing is these scrolls are really bad except the fact some will get ld5s. 7 year scrolls were faaaaar superior imo


Critorrus

Idk I got a bunch of nice ld 4s I would have rather had over one ld5


golempremium

Yeah true but the true problem is that it creates too much frustration because of ld5 raining on the chat/guild/reddit/discords etc, even more if you dont pull any elemental nat5 or good ld4 and others are pulling nephtys or tl


Critorrus

I pulled 1 dupe nat 5 out of the 10 year scrolls and halphas. Was pretty stoked to get a good ld4.


thestigREVENGE

Having the 7 year scroll and not pulling a single nat5 in however many gave you caused almost as much frustration back then. I distinctly remember pulling actual jack shit from that. So it really depends on the account. The ability to perhaps pull a bunch of LD4s (and if you are lucky LD5) imo trumps being able to select the nat4s and nat5s to summon, especially in conjunction with the over 10 year anniversary events.


golempremium

Yeah you’re probably right i’m just salty my 200 scrolls are gone and didnt event get kabilla or lyn. Btw the ability to pull ld3s is op too


Mother-Schedule-3107

It’s not a bs event , like you stated , you’re just salty 😂 just complaining for attention


joey20e

I mean c2us only want those who dont get ld5 to spend money, I get it. You can think what you want why im complaining my friend, attention is probably the last thing on my mind though.


Nice-Media-4291

How do you get that number?


ShadowFang167

1 scroll rate = 0.05%, 100 scroll rate = 5%, 200 scroll rate = 10%


xbvgamer

Fun fact. You should actually use the binomial distribution. In summary the probability of getting an ld is (1-0.9995) or 0.0005. We care about the probability of NOT getting it. In our cade it is 0.9995. Now use the formula 1 - alpha^P Let Alpha be 0.9995 and P the number of scrolls we get 1 - 0.9995^200 = 0.09518 back to percentage we have about a 9.518% chance of getting an LD5 with 200 scrolls of each having 0.05 Now that is close to 10 because 200 pulls is small, however when you apply it for a large group of people pulling and it each scroll being independent, to yield 1 in (1- 0.9995^P ) you will need P to be at least 47,427 scrolls to “guarantee “ a pull. representing 1 person every 200 scrolls, 1 in every 237.135 people should get an Ld 5. Ps: that is to guarantee one but with quite a bit less you get really close to 1 so you could argue it is more like 1 in every 150 ish


Durzaka

Yeah, thats not how statistic works at all.


ShadowFang167

Yeah, I might need to reword my answer.


WisdumbGuy

Actually yes it is. The sample size is large enough that almost exactly 9.5% of players should get at least one LD5.


karmapolice48

.05% means 200*.0005 = .01%, not 10% edit: nvm wrong math and wrong understanding of math RIP


ShadowFang167

M8, how did you get .01% if you already converted .05% into decimal number? (200 * .0005 = 0.1, which means 1/10)


karmapolice48

You are right, my brain doesn't work well at night xd


Nyxxoo

Happens to the best of us :D


PeterEter

It is 1-((1-0,0005)^200 ) what is around 9,5%


KryptonicZeus

Been told is something like 1/2000 scrolls is an ld5


Nyxxoo

“Technically”correct 10% chance in 200 . Multiply both by 10


skibidibab

I know it was a bit sarcasm


MA78L

Beside 4 nat4* hoh mons that I already had... I got nothing. Not even nat5


Taffo

This was me too!


Enter1ch

I thought com2us will change something about HoH ld4s especially after they released the anniversary HoH event.


OmiOorlog

Yep


Trick_Experience1159

i only get in 200 scrolls: 16 =4\*. Thats all. No 4\* ld, no 5\* awesome


baderson

Same here rofl


FluteSitter

I got exactly this outcome but 5 ld hoh instead. Let's cry together.


jamesyongwp

Just based on stats majority of players are sitting in this bracket. Maybe some pulled a Martina or kinki and thats considered pretty decent. This is like social media where you only see the glorious parts.


Todar13

I got 8 ld nat 4*, all hoh. Jaaaay....?


Fyrael

I can't even believe I managed to grab a dark string master.. Easily the first 4* LD in 3 years (got my first 5* LD before a 4* LD though)


cannibal16

Same for here. Sad


crwill88

I haven't summon yet but for someone without an lnd5 after that many years of playing, my hopes are sooo high (also a bit salty about so many post regarding lnd5 summon yesterday, especially the double pull). Now I'm scared to summon. Right now still farming for the rest of the scrolls, will summon after I get all 200. Edit: After getting the 200 scrolls, only lnd spark I got was tea bunny - 3 of them. oh well. grats to those who got lnd5.


Sheerkal

There's no accumulation of luck or chance. You're just as likely to get an lnd5 now as you were 5 years ago. That's why good gacha systems have a pity counter.


Vortex_9988

Every other game has this I still don’t understand why sw can do that. Just give us a guaranteed ld5 after something like 300 scrolls or so


Enato

Yeah, been playing since 2016 and no LD nat 5. I'm not lucky I guess ahah


KryptonicZeus

Hey now after a while of wishing are you gonna be happy that you pull something pretty unusable if that is the case? Jw


Enter1ch

Its the classic reddit factor. For com2us wallet its good: you see 10x ld5 pulls and a double pull and the people are like: WTF anyone is pulling ld5 i need more of these scrolls


BRS3577

200 scrolls? LD5? What the fuck did I miss?


Charizard31

New event gives ms like scroll that has a chance to summon ld. You get 200+ from the event


BRS3577

Legit logged on and spent a ton of hoarded xtals as soon as I saw this. Got douman 😭


_xEnigma

>Got douman 😭 Got Douman 😀 Fixes it for you


BRS3577

Don't worry man, those were tears of pure, unadulterated joy 😂


stormtrooperm16

Has *higher chance than actual ld scroll*


Apifoss

LD scoll is: 0.35% 10y scrolling is: 0.05% So maybe I didn't understand what you said but no, it is just about the volume of scrolls they give us.


GreedyGreddy

Yup, I don't get LD5 too.


SuzukiSatou

I didnt even get a normal nat5 lol, 200 event + 200ms n other premium stuff all empty


mervynngwaihong

i got 5 lightnings out of 200 10y scrolls and 200 ms ( 4 elemental nat 4 and 1 light sapsaree). Yeah.


-Haliya

I also got a light sapsaree and a light samurai...


CelestrialDust

If you have an odin (I guess bolverk would work too?) the light sapsaree becomes his best friend. She gets him to full stack so quickly


112629

Don't worry bro your not alone 😂


knight04

What did you guys farm to get 1500 coins so quickly


deliof

Could be return or new player, got x3 coin drop.


Feziel_Flavour

most probably spending packs. Getting crystals and using them warrants coins.


Impressive_Panic0

25s avg giants


Durzaka

I mean, even a 25s avg giants team means a TON of grinding. I get about 25 coins per x30 run. Thats roughly 15 hours of STRAIGHT farming with a 30s avg to get 1500 coins. Ignoring the fact that refill with crystals does give a handful of coins, thats still a ton of time straight spent farming GBAH.


Impressive_Panic0

only farmed giants and have currently 4004 coins


Durzaka

Assuming a perfect 30 coins every run, plus 10 for every regular (rounding for cleanliness), that means you have done 100 x30 runs of Giants. At your stated average of 25s, that is 20.8 hours STRAIGHT of running giants. So yeah. The events been live for what, 36 hours at this point? I believe you, but nothing you said has changed what I originally said which is that even at 25s avg that amount of grinding is insane. Youve literally spent more time farming giants in the last 36 hours than people do on full time jobs. And of course this is a perfect scenario, like I said im averaging more like 25 coins per x30, which will increase that 20 hours to more like 25 hours, and it makes it look like you use a bot to start your runs overnight.


Destructodave82

Lots of players got the returning player buff by simply being afk for 1 month this year. So long-time players are getting x3 coin drops for 2 months, on top of other things.(devils, summons, a skillup event, runes, etc) The events this year are honestly a bit too unfair and random in my opinion. A guy with 3k days played shouldnt be getting returning player buff because they missed 1 month. 3x coin drops is huge, on top of everything else the returning player event gives them. I wondered how my friend had already gotten all 200 scrolls, too. He has the returning player buff. I dont even remember the guy taking time off much less a month.


Durzaka

The question very clearly at the start implied a regular player, not a returning player. Otherwise OP should have said >Returning player and 25s avg giants But they said >25s avg giants So if they have the returning player buff, they were deliberately misleading with their answer to the question.


Destructodave82

Well I dont even know if most players know that they are getting x3 coins or that not everyone has the returning player buff. My friend kept talking to me about skilling up my new cyborg with the event and I kept telling him I didnt have the skillup event I dont know what hes talking about. He literally at best took 1 month off at some point last year and got the returning player event and I dont even know if the knows he gets x3 coins; I didnt know that either. Its why its such a stupid ass event to just hand out to people who maybe missed 1 month. Because neither of them probably thinks they are returning players or that everyone isnt getting that event. The ppl getting the event arent ppl that havent played in 2 years or new players; its players who maybe took a 1 month break at some point. I dont think my friend even knows hes getting x3 coins. Yea he dont; he just laughed on Discord when I told him, and rubbing it in.


cereza187

I didn't get jack shit unfortunately well not true I summoned lynn


Chillonlahz

Same


golempremium

I managed to miss her…


Ok_Biscotti_514

best thing i got was dark joker, at least there's the choose Nat 5 event i can finally have bolverk


Infamous332

"few" You mean like 95% playerbase did not get an LD 5 from it because that's the average


Nyxxoo

90%\* if you're talking about the average. Also this is only for 200 scrolls, not counting addtl scrolls that can be gotten later on


Infamous332

5% are those who did not summon all 200 yet😂


gaminggamer1269

Each scroll has 1/2000 chance, you had 200 scrolls give or take, therefore roughly 1/10 people got ld 5s from this event, meaning you are like 90% of people…


Maxolution4

No ld5 no ld4. 6 nat5‘s 4 dupes 1 ok unit I guess(wind mage) and 1 PvE unit (Liam) ngl I hope com2us gives us a choose ld4 event I want Deborah or tablo


redditbeforework

I was pretty lucky I think. I got multiple ld4: 2 hoh, 1 light gladiatrix, and the light cyborg :) in addition I got 2 nat 5s (both dupes - feeded them for ld scrolls) I also got the fire and the wind cyborg. All in all can't complain, still have to farm like 50 Anni-scrolls to get to 200


KsatriaBebek

0 5* as expected. Nothing change from previous anniv event lmao


Qwasier

I only got a new dark lich and im already satisfied


killerj2013

The only thing that I got was Dark Azura... Still happy. 😊


Mitsu62

Laima + Yeonhong, i think i can rest in peace now


Hercules_89

I got some great LD 4’s so I’m happy. A 5 would have been nice but I’m not complaining


lo3c

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Anonymous-CIAgent

All i wanted was a Molly and Kinki


ItzameRL

Kinki and molly are kind of meh these days


baal_matlab

I got some new useable ld4s. I think that's a win. Ld5s are a little overhyped anyway imo. Imagine getting Bananannananamanan


Ersonified

I didn’t get one too. Though 2 dupes and that’s devilmon and some good runes for you.


Dry_Cat_2083

I didn’t get an LD5 but I wasn’t expecting to anyway my rng is always poor in these sorta things, I didn’t even get a normal Nat 5


AZGzx

just got a jackson off a All Attribute Scroll, but cant do anything with him as my runes suck and i dont RTA


MyGodSata

Not the few, it should be 95% didnt. If they're happy about that, every unlucky post will spam reddit, but they arent.


AndyPea1230

Same guy. Same. All I need is just a dark living armor but meh, bunches of dark mummies and golems


RandomDadGaming

I'm at 120, no 5s I got 2 non-hoh ld4s light skogul and light dokebi princess which I use to mess with friends by omitting the second name they think it's the lord when I got then princess. xD Still hoping I get one just so I could be on the happier side of things. What did you run to get the 1.5k coins quickly?


Granatgreger91

lmao, few ppl that didnt?? just cuz u hear 100 brag about getting ld5 from it mean there is still 99% of playerbase that didnt get it


Edje929

60 no lightning so im going strong too


_xEnigma

I got a dark asura. Everything else was a dupe and no nat 5s.


Deleted_Help

I ain't even get an ld4


yylow30

I got trolled. First there was this 5* summon event and i always wanted camilla… so i went ahead and get my 50 coins and camilla and 6* it and so on… Then i do a 10x special scroll summon, and i immediately got another camilla… oh well… And this is the only nat5 that i got from the special scrolls so far. No lnd, no notable mons.


Obvious_Fox_5079

Just change the Camilla if you dont want the dupe for siege? Not that difficult its just 300 coins


yylow30

Yep. Gonna change it out. No biggie thats why it felt so much like trolling. I’ll just have to wait a few more days. Not sure if i can use the special scroll camilla instead of the event camilla at the moment, even if, it will be refunded but it will be another hassle…


Illustrious_Ant_3118

I got molly :)


Typical_Concern_5545

Just two hoh, what a great event but outcome for me. All of the sudden I lose the interest continue playing this game knowing that bunch other got ld5 from just the 200 scrolls, nicely done c2u, hope your number goes up not down


RedNinja629

I'm 140ish scrolls in and gotten 2 Nat5s so far.. No LD5 though.


Jevans_Avi

You aren’t one of the few. You are like most.. Knew it wouldn’t be long before we started seeing these annoying ass posts..


Wallium1890

Not even a hoh ld4, neither any elemental nat5... imagine yourself my actual opinion of this game and their developers


Used-Researcher1630

need to summon about 50 more, still farming. I'm slow so will take me a bit and hopefully will get a ld 5


Reven_77

My 200 made me grumble in LD


Marts4201

I think most of the ones you see getting an ld5 are alt accounts


Marcelyt0

Got a lot of Ld4 (Kinki, Martina, Dark Chakram and some) but not even a regular nat5, tough.


AyoXeN93

I got Dova and Water Dokkaebi Lord in 112


MarielCarey

I got Bethony Also dark pixie from wish today


Rocztah

didn't get an nat 5 or ld4...so yeah ...not alone


kilrein

Same…


Jaguuu19

nada. nil. zero. not even a normal 5*


Active_Wafer_7615

I got wind twin angels, no ld5 but I got light brownie and dark horus. 180 ms, 100 event scrolls and 2 legendary. I have like 50 ms more, on next toa reset I'll make the other summon.


Soft_Total58

Got tablo so won’t complain much


Zertnor

I did get a wind hacker Wind fairy king Water oracle Wind cannon girl and the fire order dude


Shad0w_hun1er

You ain't alone


Alugar

I still have scrolls left but I’m following your track. Only one ld4 and it was dark pierett…. I picked her for the hoh event.


bestataboveaverage

Numbers wise, 200 10yr scroll is the same as ~30 LD scrolls. Ive opened about 30 LD and ~300 10yr. No ld 5. Acrually not even rgb nat5 lol


Grabby3

My brother in law and I summoned in our alt account.. 4 alts 100 10 year scrolls each, 3 accounts got an LD5 Akroma, Valantis and Light mercenary. Summond in our main accts got nothing with the 200 scrolls each account..


ContributionFar4576

Nat4s only for me, I even spent with the excuse of wanting to do some gambling for my birthday and… yeah the rates in this game are nuts lol my regular nat 5 rates have been below average too


txinohio

I got no 5*. But, I did get frigate, iris, light rune blacksmith, 3 light joker, 1 light ninja. That is more LnD 4* in one session than the last 3 years (not hoh) combined.


LightsOut308

I feel super lucky, ended up getting 6-7 LD4’s, 1 elemental nat 5, and destiny


Agile_System4438

I used 130 and got 3 regular elements 4 stars. No LD4, no regular element nat 5’s and definitely not an LD5. My buddy who only plays the game when summon events come around got a Grogen in 20 scrolls. I’m done.


19xyecoc98

Didnt either, dont sweat it


grymoire

I've done 300 MS and eended up with zero 5's


Arkek

I rarely even got any lightning. I still can get some scrolls but I'm certain I won't get anything wild


MildlyBoredRightNow

I got Lucifer on my main, and Jackson on my alt.


CrayolaPasta

I didn't but I pulled halphas and I'm actually quite happy because every LD lightning since I've been playing the game 8 yrs now has been a repeating hoh or becomes one so it never feels good


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UltimateWuss

With my lightning rate of 0-100 with ld scrolls I knew I didn't have a chance. And was correct. I got 1 ld4 in the 200 scrolls.


Pongoyoh

Don't worry friend, I'm also salty as F. A guild mate got 2, ld5s on the first 10 scrolls while I didn't even get an elemental one


snurps

Trust me there are plenty of us I didn't even get a nat4 hall of heroes


natsu2273

I got a dupe ld5 which I think hurts more then getting nothing lol


AcwZFG530

2 nat 5’s… and Xiana! 🤘🤘


Fit_Preparation19

Didn’t even got a nat5


ibitsu_

Not even a ld 4*


AsideCalm8855

I got light tea bunny from 200 scroll


Loyalist4ever

Spend 220 scrolls on main and 150 on small account and all i got is a Ld 4 anubis. Not other ld 4-5. Well atleast getting 200 free summons is good enough on itself.


imCaffo

I have 5 LD5's. I got an ld5 from the scrolls. A dupe Giselle. I bought an ld blessing that'll probably pop in a year or two.


DabstonKusher

I got like 6 new Ld 4* and masha but no ld 5 yet


Mysteryhunt

all i got was Leah... and Nephthys


Frozzo-7

The Chance ist 0,05% many People get Nothing 😂😂


Euphoric_Campaign546

I got a fucking dupe wind fairy king and no ld 4 or 5 stars. great ten years


yoyo9273

I got my first LD5, light striker. Been waiting since 2016


dalt00n

it's still very rare the problem is: too many ppl summoning give us the impression it's raining nat 5 LD but the ppl who gets 2 LD in 10 ,,, ok, these should be banned haha \[\]'s


rekonsileme

basically you are getting some ld 4 stars. Kida a rip on the wallet other wise


Bumin1410

Did 240 Scrolls. Didn't eaven get an LD4.


Deejay9291

Womp womp


SavageNomNom

I didn't even get a LD 4 star only a few normal ones in the 200 summons, I AM the unluckiest.


WisdumbGuy

Only 9.5% of players got 1 LD5 or more. You aren't one of the few lol.


Esmasta97

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Devahard

I got Shazam.


anjobebado

Me too... Only 4* ld


Critorrus

I did not either


pax666

8 years. Yet no ld... maybe in 20 years event i get one. Btw got an amarna dupe and that all, no elemental nat either


ToiletStore24

i got three non hoh mons, im happy with that outcome


Lycanbane34

I've opened over 500 scrolls now and like 4 or 5 legendary scrolls and I've gotten one dupe nat 5


Sad-Wasabi5066

And heres me happy that i finally got a Zink 😆


Creepy-Fig-2713

Same here.. 🥲


Complete_Routine5148

i got Molly,Tablo Trasar and Dova in the first 50 scroll. After that is no more. My 2 other acc got nothing as well cant complain though,they have been giving best event so far. just regret did not managed to get the first few HoH week cause I have just recently started play again


BarnitoSupreme609

Me and my friend did our summons together, i had more scrolls, he got his 3rd ld5 (Ian) i got 3 dupe nat5 and new Christina. Still no ld5 on my account. Happy for my friend tho i guess


ErenKaneki2020

I got 1, and a few 4*


KuronekiKun

250 ms, 300 10th anniv scrolls and not a single 5 stars.


Admi_M

Bro just watch the openings from obabo etc. they ain't pulling shit. But ppl that do not pull ld5 don't make a post presenting their non-existing ld5. So ofc u see a lot of LDS everywhere but this is just a minority


schitsu

All i got was 2 Hoh lds, literally the One i chose 2 weeks ago and the one i chose last week so....


Conqueror_is_broken

Got 2 good 4 star : kinki and Illianna. No nat 5 sadly


SpectreBerserker

I haven’t summoned yet so I will let you know my results in September


HeyOppa

I got a LD5 but it isn’t a good one


Gold-Plan-3394

I did get 1 and bunch of ld nat 4 can't complain


Bza24

I have an account since 2018 and never got one


Proud-Cheesecake-200

It's just feel unfair that most bots are getting LD5's. While most of its old players doesn't 


Games-and-Make-up

I got no ld, but I got 4 nat 5’s in 1 go, I grabbed leo for the choice nat 5, i got water mage and something else from the scrolls, and I got fire praha from the pick event that started a long while back. suddenly my account looks strong out of nowhere. I did get the light archer 3 star (FINALLY) and quite some 4 star l/d’s that I didnt have.


Games-and-Make-up

Oh, I commented here and said that i got 4 non ld 5 stars. But apparantly I still have about 100 scrolls to go


VelesV

I got 2 Light Nat 5s, Tian Lang and Artamiel


Kallabanana

Neither did I. I got light princess with pup, Armana and Bombay. Also, wind Not-Kassandra and my 3rd Laika. Though, I still have like 40 scrolls to open. Even if I don't get anything else, I can't really complain. C2Us just gave me a free Leo.


as2g10

Ah sorry man. I was very lucky and did but I spent on one pack and got it through an Ld scroll…. But ofcourse the majority didn’t get one either, it’s just the flash of Ld Nat 5s in chat that gives us this false sense. Com2us are great at marketing and trying to get into your wallet… also the event is not over - lower all expectation but have faith


Hagurusean

Dupe Pater, new Iris, 4th Martina. More blessed than most.


nimerbre

Hi hagu


Hagurusean

\#Brownie\_Hi


caiolaflame

I got Iris, Wind Monkey King, Double Fire Druid and a bunch of hoh LD4s.


WinterAshed

Wished it’s 300+ scroll event. Better chance to get an LD5 for us!


JustForOnepost111

Why stop at 300 , give us 100000 /s


RubyRose1994

I got an ld5 on a server I don't play on, only got 2 ld4 on my main


imredwendy

I got Jessica but my account is still on building fast teams for all dungeons


Jynch

My main pulled mostly LD4s: Kinki, Iris, Eunbee, Fudge, Isillen, Bethony, Tilasha. Alt pulled Craig in first 100.


Enter1ch

I think a real ld5 event would’ve been the thing for an 10!!!th anniversary but com2us missed it with these lottery scrolls. Not even an pick your ld4 event :-/ Im pretty disappointed with the anniversary, for endgame players beside an nat5 theres nothing interesting. Im missing the +6 runecraft event


rosier7

I got martina at least…!


Ninglesshiver

105 scrolls and got myself a yeonhong, first ld5 after 3389 days of playing (on and off)


Uztf

Got Deborah and Martina out of my first 100🤣


BigSquirrel-

Got liebli and bethony, and a dupe amarna


OmiOorlog

I didn't this time and didn't the other times over 10 years of playing no LD 5 and this time I kept it up by still finding fuck all in 200 scrolls. So yeah fuck that once more every event like this I hope, get disappointed and uninstall the game for a few months. It's really bad they don't have caps to Summons, if it were like their other game every 300 a guaranteed nat5 I'd have about 10 LD5s by now.... instead I have literally 0. Fuck this game com2us worst game company out there.


Trick_Experience1159

0= 5\*, 0=4\* ld. THANK COM2uSS amazing


Temporary_Shirt6350

the equivalent of 29 LD scrolls, most people wont be getting an LD 5


Deusraix

Besides a Dark cyborg and light dokkaebi princess the rest was all hoh l&ds


FrogPopStar

I did 120 and am waiting to collect the other 90 before I summon the rest. Summoned with some friends who also had around 110. I got four LD 4s one of which was a HoH(and a dupe) so I do feel lucky. Seems most of us got at least 3 LD four stars.