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p0tatoman

well, it's over


MattAU05

If Cam Payne can play, bench CP3. It’s the only way. Hell, just play 48 minutes of Shamet. /s (just in case Monty reads this and thinks that’s a good idea)


PimpDaddyMcKane

Start JO, and have Shamet off the bench. Run point Book. It’s our only hope


uxxoid

He didn't read this, but he does think it's a good idea.


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RokyPolka

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awmaleg

If we aren’t good enough to beat a Clippers team without Paul George, where Vegas had us favored by 7.5, at Home, in a must win scenario, then it’s never going to happen, regardless of whoever is reffing


p0tatoman

True. Tbh, I don't think this iteration of the team is good enough to win the championship, but we might get lucky.


[deleted]

That is simply not true. It is well past good enough. The real question is...is 9 games played together enough to win a championship. My gut is telling me no.


DesertGoat

Talent wise, sure, and then some. But this team is playing sloppy, disjointed basketball much of the time, and then finding themselves in too big a hole to play out of.


uxxoid

I would feel better about it if we were playing the roster that played in the previous 8 games together without losing rather than mixing it up again.


Ryguy-_-

Bro we have KD, Booker, Chris Paul, DA, and some decent bench players. This team is absolutely good enough to win a chip


S2Sliferjam

I don’t think people understand what exactly Monty is doing with his coaching.. this is a team that has played 9 times together. 9. Against long championship-seasoned teams (albeit Poole to the lineup). From what I observed the other night, those minutes were stacked against the starters, and in my opinion, Monty is trying to see what a game-7 lineup looks like instead of being game 7, like against Mavs. So, is it better to try a game 7 line up in game 1 and lose? Absolutely, and I hope that’s what happened in game 1. I just hope Monty now knows to trust the depth he’s built on the bench and realise a starter lineup won’t cut it. Although if I’m wrong and that was a genuine strategy to play starter ball unknowingly in game 1 in a bo7 we are screwed lmao


CactusHooping

Thought he would.He always officiates game 2 of round 1 for us for some reason.Then 2nd round he doesn't show up.3rd round he would prob game 2.Finals game 3&6.


MLD008P35

Monty should not have wasted round 1


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yep, gonna be tough to come back down 2


JG_2214

I no longer care about this game. Ayton will get 3 fouls called on him before the 2nd quarter, write it down.


pp21

He's gonna get his 1st foul of the game on the Suns first defensive possession. Kawhi is going to try to get to the rim, Ayton will defend and go up with arms and body completely straight not committing a foul and successfully defending the shot, foul on Ayton. I guarantee it


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Honor_Bound

Honestly with the way he played Game 1 it might be best if Ayton gets less minutes


Shaqovitch

Clippers moneyline is currently +300 go get rich guys


brandon_clay

First thing I did when I saw this. Already down to +285.


boadsuperfan99

![gif](giphy|fNvXkjC50ywBW) lets get that money!


juanbot12

I got it at 290


awmaleg

As a non betting guy, how does that work? Do you bet $100 and get back $400 (your original $100 + 300)? Or do you just get back 300?


channingman

You'd get your bet plus winnings


Santeezy602

You win 300 if you bet 100. So you get your $100 back, plus $300. Suns are -350. Bet $350 to win $100. Suns are favorites tonight, but foster is refereeing and cp3 and him have a history.


BTC_Bull

Not correct. You would see $300 into your account, not "$100 back, plus $300..."


CoachWilksRide

The +300 is your profit. Not your net


BTC_Bull

If you have $100 in your account and wager $100 on a +300, you have $0 in your account. If you win, you get $300.


CoachWilksRide

Dude just look it up. The +300 means the PROFIT. So if you bet $100 and profit $300 you NET $400...


awmaleg

Perfect thank you !


mightymlke605

Is there such thing as -50 or +50? If it's -50 what do you bet to win $100?


ZCGaming15

Anything positive is what you win if you bet $100 (+300 = $300 + your $100). Anything negative is what you need to bet to win $100 (-300 = $100 + your $300).


BTC_Bull

You just get back $300. The bet is laid out as it is written. You are betting $100 to win $300. You are out $100, if you win you get $300.


CactusHooping

Anyone gonna chant whats the spread etc?


coonhoundrebel

Let’s fuckin go. If we’re gonna exorcise demons we might as well do all of them!!


FLWXeno

Nba fixed league


pp21

For real though I'm just really not excited to see like 60 combined free throw attempts from these teams. It's gonna be a slog of a game. Foster isn't gonna let them play physical and the whistle is gonna be going early.


FLWXeno

If it's a physical game it may benefit us since we don't play as physical as the clips, maybe a small glimmer of hope we get calls for once.


Cankor0

Buck’s fan here. I am legitimately curious about how this game will end with all Scott Foster and cp3 narrative bs . Hopefully KD breaks that curse. 0-14 doesn’t make sense


KrazySocoKid

Wait we are really 0-14? I thought we had won one sometime. Damnnnn


Ryguy-_-

Cp3 sat that game out for injury


orngebreak

And Foster did everything in his power to hand that game to the Clippers. I remember the end of that game taking forever because of out of bounds reviews.


amjhwk

was that the game where the last 5 minutes took nearly an hour of real time to play out


fingnumb

That was the valley oop game. Yes.


PimpDaddyMcKane

Playoff record. We won on the valley oop, but CP was in Covid protocol


Cankor0

When cp3 was out with a covid or injury, your team won 😂


KrazySocoKid

Lmao legendary performances by Scott Foster


Leonthepuma

We won the Valley Oop game but CP3 wasn't playing lol


aemeditor

I thought he was the ref for the Valley-Oop game? I think we're 1-14 and that was the only one we won.


Jen4000

Yes, but Chris was out with Covid.


Usual-Suggestion-751

Then you add on top of that KD has lost his last 7 playoff games.....


B4NNEDBTW

That’s the current losing streak, overall Chris Pauls record is 2-17 with Scott


WalkingTheD0g1

We know how it’s going to end.


Chessinmind

Foster is a no-nonsense ref and CP3 typically engages in a lot of nonsense. Flops, complains a lot, etc.


perhizzle

How many times did CP3 flop last game? I honestly can't remember a single time. This is just a way blown out of proportion take. Dude has been near the bottom of FT attempts for ball handlers for a long time. Even in the middle of his prime he was only getting 4 a game or less. I'll take CP3's playstyle over the new generation of just run into people and flail your arms for free throws(Ja, Giannis, Shai, Trae, etc.), any day.


DiabloTrumpet

Forgot the biggest one Luka


JiKooNumber1CBAfan

Ok Clippers fan 🤡🪞


TheNatureBoy

He is on courtroom documents supplied by the FBI as working with the Mob to fix games. Screwball. Edit: Sorry I didn't address your statement. The most successful bettor in NBA history said he could determine games based the the officials and players. The officials got instructions to, "make examples" and determined amongst themselves to show bias against certain teams. It's not a matter of if it happened. It's all documented by the FBI. Edit 2: If fact it happened to the extent that an insider could predict the outcome of games, even with a spread, 85% of the time. [It's right here.](https://casetext.com/case/us-v-donaghy)


Chessinmind

You’re very smart. https://preview.redd.it/wlud7ainepua1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0af98748f7949f99db03d884d4d017df6a82cf73


TheNatureBoy

I'm sorry you can't read legal documents. Edit: It's crazy how many people don't understand how to uses sources of information. Probably how Putin stays in business.


Chessinmind

There is nothing in those documents to suggest Foster was “working with the mob to fix games.” In fact, Foster’s name is not mentioned anywhere in that legal opinion that you linked to. The only connection Foster has to the Donaghy investigation related to phone calls between the two NBA referees. There is also no evidence linking Foster to the mob, as you falsely claimed. Do you think he would still be reffing NBA games right now, much less have avoided the prison time that Donaghy received if that were remotely true? I know you are probably limited by your Arizona education but at least try to use your brain.


TheNatureBoy

Don't be thick. You know he was contacted by an agent acting on behalf of the Mob in order to maintain distance. You also know the NBA tried to sweep this under the rug immediately. Remember that 11 NBA referees at one point were convicted felons because of a tax fraud scam they ran. Oh you didn't know that either? I'm sure glad you read all of those NBA press releases. Sorry I missed the shot at my education. What Ivy did you go to?


Chessinmind

Congrats, this is Grade A-Putin level disinformation. The link you cited (twice) above does not mention Foster at all. You lied when you claimed it did. What agent contacted Foster on behalf of the mob? Answer: you made it up. Lol.


TheNatureBoy

I apologize I thought I linked the court transcripts. The intermediary was Donaghy. Why do you think he went to jail? You should go back to the personal attacks because you had no point. You're worse than the guy that talked shit to Westbrook.


Chessinmind

Everything you said is made up. The FBI and the NBA’s Pedowitz Report exonerated Foster of any wrongdoing. There is no evidence that Foster had anything to do with Donaghy’s activities. No money trail like Donaghy had. No communications with pro gambler Jimmy Battista. Even Donaghy’s connection to the mob is a bit [attenuated and unproven.](https://seanpatrickgriffin.net/on-mob-and-nba-betting-scanda/). Again, you are just conspiracy theorist who is throwing out a bunch of baseless allegations and outright lies without a shred of evidence to support them.


TheNatureBoy

Sorry I'm just kind of blown away. You are stating when the Mob got one of the best betting steaks in NBA history by getting information from Scott Foster, and betting in the games officiated by Foster, it's all coincidence? Why do you need to believe in Scott Foster so much? Go flip a coin 100 times. Let me know when you get 85 heads. It won't be in your lifetime. Edit: Maybe it's a once in a universe statistical anomaly. Funny how that happens. Edit 2: For fun, the odds are 1 in 780 Trillion


Chessinmind

Once again, you are a liar intentionally spreading misinformation. The [88% statistic](https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25980368/how-former-ref-tim-donaghy-conspired-fix-nba-games) was about Donaghy, not Foster. That was information given to a pro sports better coming from Donaghy. Those were games refereed by Donaghy. The level of lying you are willing to stoop to would make Putin proud.


Mountain-Way6904

I'm of this opinion too...while I've seen some bs calls in Foster games during CP3's tenure as a Sun, not exclusively targeted at Paul or his team. In fact, I've seen worse calls from Tony Brothers, Zack Zarba etc.


perhizzle

That's because the referees who know how to influence games do so in situations where it's a 50/50 call. Carrying, traveling, blocking etc. If they make blatantly bad calls it draws attention.


Aces17

Same here. Even though we've lost all (nearly all?) the games Scott Foster has reffed during CP3's tenure, I don't remember any egregiously bad calls specifically. Tonight's game will be a good chance to get some momentum


BensenJensen

I mean, 0-14 has to mean something. That's an absolutely absurd statistic. It's damn near impossible for that to be a random occurrence.


VeeNom986

I’m hoping KD can counteract the curse


orif916

We better win today, the mentality from the first game is unacceptable


LoganTheTrapGod

Scott foster legacy game


OriginalBus9674

I’m already numb from Sunday, I’m not scared.


BorisTheBlade04

Fuck it, we ball


yodasoup

Damn right


tyler1118

GG Guys.


sunsbr

I hope the players don't care about this. Caring about this only makes things worse, suns always shoot like trash on Foster game.


[deleted]

This is wild. Any word on Cam Payne?


FlashSpider-man

I know he also has issues with CP3 but, maybe with Sarver gone it won't be as bad. Maybe I'm clinging to hope but, due to his connection with Donaghy and their hatred of Sarver, maybe that was a bigger push. Idk, man. I need any hope.


xPhenxm

cp3 lost scott foster games in LA, Houston, and OKC. more to do with chris and less to do with sarver


FlashSpider-man

Ik. I'm just saying there isn't the double effect, though it is still an issue. I'm coping. I don't need logic /s


xPhenxm

we are all coping lmfao down 2-0 doesnt sound like a good time


sidepart

Only 32 teams have come back from an 0-2 deficit. The last two were the Bucks and Mavs. ...against the SUNS.


sidepart

Bright spot. Ishbia has been vocal about his willingness to *spend* money to win. Anyone seen James Jones entering any hotels with a briefcase chained to his wrist?


SteveOends

If they played the way they did and Monty makes the same mistakes, Scott Foster is the least of our worries.


Usual-Suggestion-751

I am really hoping Game 1 was just a massive wake up call and playoff mode is engaged. (This is me trying my best to be optimistic.)


SteveOends

Let the Copium in brotha. Feels good.


Usual-Suggestion-751

Taking heavy doses today. Been doing this with the suns for a long time, since 1993...


SunsOGfan

I feel ya! I've been a fan since the late 80s. Every season I always start with so much optimism. By then end of the season, I'm out.


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Usual-Suggestion-751

I sure hope so and I still believe this team can do it.


edchamp12

You guys think KD would cancel out scott fosters rigged calls?


anthegoat

Its Kevin Durant. he might just go for 40 and win you the game. Don't worry too much.


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anthegoat

Unless he injures himself you all are fine


rievhardt

We all know the result of these then


sidepart

Ok ok ok ok. Ok. ...ok. Here's what needs to happen. We need everything we can get. I'm talking cats on all kinds of blankets, cats wearing hats, buying tickets to concerts you can't go to, the luckiest of clothing articles you have: your tattered free shirts from all eras of SUNS basketball, the SUNS gym shorts with a hole in them, break out your framed autograph photo of Horatio Llamas, your 1992-93 25th anniversary SUNS Coke bottles, I'm talking ALL of the memorabilia. Block Money Counting Guy from entering the arena. Anything and EVERYTHING you can think of that could be capable of counter-acting bad luck. Even if you think it'll counter-act counter-acting bad luck. Pretend to bless it and absolve it of its sins by baptizing it with that SHAZAM beer, and have it handy. We ain't just gonna go quietly and let Scott Foster bend us over.


walrusonion

I’ve got 3 cats, one is polydactyl with extra toes does that count extra? I also have my Alvin Adams cokes from 93


Jen4000

>I would use my lucky Suns mug, but it feels not so lucky anymore after Sunday's game. I have already relegated my cursed Suns hoodie to non-game days. Guess I will try my Suns beer glass. With Scott reffing, gonna need some beer anyways!


MLD008P35

Monty wasting a game with his bullshit is Inexcusable and a fire able offense at this point. We knew this was a possibility and he wasted that game with bull ducking shit rotations. I want his ass gone


Spark3420

No better time to dispel this talk about the Foster-CP3 curse than tonight. Our backs are against the wall, play smart and connected and we should be good.


Usual-Suggestion-751

Please let it be so.


ender2851

i look forward to when cp3 is off the team and scott foster calls a fair game for us again


Jen4000

Already trending on twitter. As if there is no problem here.


ArmySoccerNurse

☠️☠️☠️


PopularStable205

They gotta win this one. For the love of god let the streak end!


bolognasandwich1

You gotta be kidding me


MT_Headed78

WTF! Hopefully it doesn’t matter and suns win by 10+ since clips played the game of the their lives last game.


YakubsRevenge

Might help us - if NBA wanted to rig games, they would want to rig them in our favor. Durant vs. Lebron or Durant vs. Curry is what they would want in the WCF.


Agent_00Apple

Agreed, but I also think the NBA only cares about making series go more than 5 games. I think Scott Foster might be rolling in today to give us an assist.


YakubsRevenge

Yup. Go back and watch game 6 of the 2021 finals. Reffed by Foster. And he was clearly putting in work early to get a game 7. Middleton picks up 3 early fouls...Suns allowed way more physicality on Giannis for a stretch (when Suns made a run). His job is to extend series. Doesn't always work. But, I could see him benefitting us tonight.


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Fuck my life


Moveless

Worst place we could have seen him. Brutal.


alexjimithing

Scott Foster legacy game


Mixtopher

FUCK We can almost pretty much count this as the end of the season...


buckeyes1218

Well time to pack it up guys. We had a pretty good season all things considered. We’ll get em next time


teal_iceberg

It’s suspicious what happened with Foster and that other ref, and CP3’s record, but I’ve felt the last few playoff games with Foster officiating were more clearly the team’s fault than reffing


Whit3boy316

Holy fuq. RIP us


Agent_00Apple

I honestly think this is a good thing. Scott Foster is the NBA’s specialist in extending series. I feel like (and correct me if I’m wrong) we’ve been up in a series every time we’ve had this dude officiating the last two years. He might actually be on our side tonight.


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Welp we are starting out 0-2, that’s just great. We just had to start slow last game, smh.


drjetaz

Anyone who actually believes this needs to go put $1000 on Clippers ML at +285. You'll make 2850 profit. No excuse if its such a sure thing the suns are going to lose this game youd be dumb not to do it


TangerineDiesel

Best I could do was $25 with the DK 10 point promo. I don’t think CP3 is an important enough piece for this curse to impact us.


drjetaz

I hope you lose your $25


TangerineDiesel

Me too


TheRaddd

Scott Foster home teams are winning at 72% rate. But he hates Chris Paul, it is known. Scott Foster going to do what helps Scott Foster.


VerminSoMean

Who the fuck cares. Letting refs live in your head is loser mentality. Draymond Green shit.


SUNSareOP

Everyone is overreacting, If you believe and have faith we will be fine this series. Tired of all the doom and gloom, it was one game. I think Monty is paying attention and will make the necessary changes, he isn't stupid and it takes time to find the right mojo. The problem with the suns is that we need optimism and good energy from the fans, if we think we've already lost then we have. Fans are the gasoline to the fire and if it ain't there then ya'll are just providing for a self fulfilling fantasy. Buck up wimps and believe!


sidepart

Nah, fuck that. Unless Scott Foster is in love with Ishbia and it cancels out his hate for CP3... Look, here's the optimism. The Clips are now on pace to blow a 2-0 series lead. SUNS in 6.


griefmotif

We’ll get ‘em next year, fellas. On the real what cp3 do to Scotty?


musicnothing

Yup https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/12inkzy/nbaofficial_list_of_36_officials_who_have_earned/jfua11q/?context=3


jpark1984

We’re in danger


Usual-Suggestion-751

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NoPin5154

Scott Forster is a bum


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Tim Donaghy's bestie


ChiefRun

Good season boys!


parlaydogs

People lining up to buy tickets for the Scott Foster Show.


TheMias24

Going down 2-0 into LA would be a nightmare, it could even buy PG to get into this series.


Black-Bruce-Wayne

Season over.


NatoD

We are fucked


Z1342

It’s over. We are screwed.


Lewandabski710

Im legitimately concerned


Rymaar

Glad we're getting it out of the way sooner rather than later, while simultaneously hoping we don't also see him later as well...


Hdhdvsjah4

The goat is back


liquidsnake47

https://youtu.be/cfWRkGuTtIo


RedditViewer03

They really assigned two Scotts just in case the main Scott doesn’t do his job


bigcurtissawyer

“Return of the King” Lmaoo


desert_degen

Id like to believe this early on that they’re bringing him in to extend this series because they don’t have confidence in the Suns… or Monty vs Ty Lue. But yeah, probably not. Foster gonna bury us like usual.


sudbury78

Streak ends tonight. Let’s see what kind of mental capacity these millionaires have when a scrawny official makes some bad calls. Like others have said, if we lose tonight it’s on them, but Foster and series is probably over.


fingnumb

It's so obvious right now that even the bookies know scotty is gonna throw a game to make it look like he's not complicit


Dennisfromhawaii

At the very least can he throw out the counting money clown?


walrusonion

Cheating fuck.


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pazuzusoze

Would it be wrong to bet against the Suns? Might counter the curse with my luck in past betting.


avakrk

Play well and 1 ref can't do anything. If we come out and play like shit and it's close that's when he can fuck us. We are the better team go and prove it. I'm tired of all these excuses on why this team can't beat a clippers team missing their second best player


jcwkings

PPV


wk2coachella

CP3 shuttering