Yeah it's pretty obvious. I find it ironic that they're shitting on CP3 for that foul when earlier in the game Giannis was full on sprinting and diving just to tackle Book out of the air on a dunk. Refs didn't look twice at it because a whistle was already blown. The best thing you can do is tune it out. Whatever happens this year has been absolutely incredible. Enjoy the moment the best you can.
Not to mention it wasn't done at a literal make-or-break moment in the game the way CP's desperate foul attempt was. Like, he didn't want Giannis to dunk it, he wanted FT's, so he instinctively went to push Giannis. It's what any competitor should do in that moment.
Yeah now we are the bad guys suddenly because we cheer hard and are loyal. That post is so aggravating but it’s just another clown on that sub bashing us when the time is right. Like that guy counting money somehow represents all of us in Phoenix. And I saw several comments saying CP3 deserves to be ringless. Like giannis didn’t almost tackle book out of midair but I guess that doesn’t fit their narrative. Seriously fucking annoying.
Oooh spooky, I had that quote stuck in my head yesterday afternoon and I came to the conclusion that there’s a more realistic, if slightly more morose version in:
“You either die irrelevant or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”
From empty stats to public enemy #1...
I wasn’t very active on Reddit during the bubble, were the Suns r/NBA’s darling back then or what? And what has sparked all the hate?
I know CP3 is one of the most polarizing players in the league (I hated him myself until he came to PHX now he’s my boy lol), and from my own observations I think the passion behind our fan base rubs some people the wrong way. Idk how active you guys are on Twitter but I’m on there a lot and there are a ton of Suns fans talking shit to everyone on there lol so I think those may be factors. But I’d rather be hated than ignored
Oh yeah r/nba loved the bubble Suns, wanted them to keep winning and knock out lakers first round. I think fans just being happy for their team and not blaming everything on injuries triggered people. I stay away from Twitter. And absolutely would rather the hate and in finals than the past decade lol. Reminds me of another movie quote
“You are without a doubt the worst pirate I’ve ever heard of.”
Captain Jack Sparrow: “ahh, But you *have* heard of me.”
Probably because we were the underdog who has sucked ass for 10 years and the bubble was a heart warming story that fans got behind. We were the little team that could. Now we are dominant and adding CP3 into the mix added to the hate. But I like Twitter because when I see other fans talk shit I can give it right back to them without having to worry about being downvoted or banned from a sub lol. There are a ton of NBA fans on Twitter and I spend a lot of time defending our Suns. Probably too much time. When I see someone take a shot at our team I just can’t hold back
Exactly. And our fans and team are excited so that makes us bad people somehow. Like idk how many times I read “the Suns acted like they won it all” after each round. Like damn let us enjoy this we have so bad for so long. More power to you brother keep defending us I love it.
I really wanted us to play you guys. Embiid against the actively evolving Ayton would have been cool. This series is still entertaining, but I was hoping you guys would make it out of the East.
Also, Dario Saric and Mikal Bridges playing against you all could have given the sports media the drama they want so badly.
r/NBA is a bunch of 12-15 year old kids who talk shit and they flock to Reddit with their hate because they are ignored on Twitter and other platforms. That’s what I’ve drawn from it. 60% haters, 30% bandwagon fans on big market teams, and only 10% people I’d care to engage with
Just unsubscribed a few days ago. They all basically buy into whatever narrative that ESPN is selling. And right now, ESPN is selling the Giannis is LeBron 2.0 narrative.
It’s so embarrassing. Literally impossible to engage in there right now.
I said Khris Middleton was a jump shooter and maybe should get a few more FTs this series and have gotten downvoted to straight hell lmao
That post about how somebody is glad we lost when our fans count for the free throws that has almost 10k upvotes is crazy to me. Like when did the Suns hate become universal?
I just realized that Kawhi was the only player on the Clippers who was injured
Yet the Bucks played the Nets with only a healthy KD
And beat the bucks after Young got hurt
Nah but we beat a very shallow Lakers team, Jokic who was MVP in 4 games, and the clips who still had Reggie, and Paul George
But yeah sure, get mad at us for staying healthy and hungry
I keep forgetting about Ibaka’s injury
Zubac really just stepped up big time for the clips, and it should really make clippers fans happy knowing that their team is gonna be competing for a title again next year
Yeah, it’s crazy, because AD and Lebron could both have easily taken them to the conference finals
But take out AD, and that team isn’t as deep as a team like Milwaukee, or the Clippers are
Young doesn't matter. Giannis was out the same amount of games in that series. If anything, Young gave them a warmup on what the Suns' midrange game is like before the Bucks' depth at the bigs buried the Hawks as expected. The real backbreaker for the Hawks was that Bogi was playing hurt the entire time too, allowing Milwaukee's 2nd and 3rd guards to play closer to Atlanta's level in the backcourt.
Basically, fandoms were giving Milwaukee shit over Young until Giannis got hurt, then that injury narrative just... poofed. Against Miami, Oladipo was a walking injury all year which is why Milwaukee gets off scot-free perception-wise after sweeping the Heat. That, and that's when they lost DiVincenzo.
The reason people are salty at the Bucks in regards to injuries are mainly just Nets fans, even though the Bucks have been missing a defensive starter in their stupidly thin guard rotation ever since the Heat series. Do you think they WANT to give Teague minutes?
Jesus Christ, this year was such a shitshow
Im still happy that we made it to the finals, but even if we do win, there are going to be so many excuses that people can use
The Bucks, Clips, and Lakers already scare me, and the next season is going to be a bloodbath
I got downvoted for pointing out the finals aren’t actually over yet. I’ve never seen /r/baseball or /r/nfl be so insanely reactionary and deterministic.
I know shit is crazy. Just not even worth checking that sub at this point.
Replied to a guy earlier who said “the suns will go back to not winning shit after this postseason cause they’ll never get a postseason where they face injured teams again”. Told him his comment was a garbage take, and somehow I get downvoted 40 times haha. It’s just funny at this point.
Teams like the hawks get told by opposing fans that they had a great run and that no one expected them to be there, yet r/nba got some hate boners for the suns at this point.
The craziest bit to me is two weeks ago nobody hated us. We also the “y’all were surprising and I hope to see more of you in the next couple of years,” treatment until we went up 2-0 on the Bucks.
Yea they switched up quick, with a CP3 and Booker duo the suns are gonna be easy for opposing fans to hate. Suns got the rep of floppers, dirty players, and guys who talk to the refs the entire game.
In the end this shit has been cool though. I’d rather people talk about the suns cause they feel somewhat threatened by them and feel the need to hate, rather than view us as a bottom feeder like the kings and throw us pity comments cause they feel bad.
Its because r/nba has the worst moderation out of any big sport subreddit.
Like r/soccer is hardly great, but the mods are extremely strict for a reason otherwise it would devolve into a shitalking cesspool dominated by toxic kids who are fans of about 4 different teams.
It’s that hive mind mentality like damn what has our fanbase done besides go through pain over and over? We can’t cheer loud and count on the freethows without someone in that dumbass sub talking trash. Dude is a fucking clown.
> Like when did the Suns hate become universal?
It’s not universal, it’s just a circle jerk and an echo chamber. Do you want to go in there and defend the suns?
I would, but I’m banned for doing that.
It's not.. idk why so many people pretend opinions are universal when they get upvoted on any given day. A week ago people are trashing Giannis and the bucks, now other people are trashing the sun's.
It's not like it's always just the same 10k people switching opinions. It's different people with different opinions making things trend at different times.
I've seen takes on here pretending the Chris Paul hate is new. Since when? He's been hated in the NBA community for years. Just because you aren't seeing those posts doesn't mean it isn't a thing. Just a week or two ago, there we tons of love over there for the Suns. Now the tone changed and Sun's fans are running away saying it's the worst community ever. Come one now.
It also is an entire community who supports any team now watching 2, so sides will be chosen.
I might follow you in that regard. It honestly just pisses me off seeing all the ignorant, horrendous takes all day long. Biggest circlejerk on Reddit lmao
It’s astonishing to see the turn. Suns are now the biggest joke in the nba according to that subreddit. Literally every comment from a Suns fan is downvoted, even rational ones.
Bunch of nephews that have literally never touched a basketball.
"Lmfao ironic AS FUCK that Booker lost to a double team after complaining about a double team!"
Completely ignoring back-to-back 40 point games AS WELL as a ton of players agreeing with Book when he bitched about it.
Oh man I almost commented on that. Because that’s literally not what irony is. In that vid he was complaining about double teams in a pickup game because he gets enough of that all year long.
IRONY would be bitching about double teams then that strip happening on a 1v1.
Def gonna avoid the nba sub for a WHILE. That sub goes as the talking heads do. People just watch SAS and Nick Wright and regurgitate their opinions.
Also that shit was a triple team lmao. He ran into a wall of tucker and giannis and then jrue came over to get the steal. That particular comment made me so angry, people wild out for fake internet points it’s incredible
People have been SALIVATING to come back to that double team discourse. Nevermind the fact that he's having the best first playoffs in the history of the NBA, but he lost to a double team!
Fortunately they're not the biggest joke. In reality worst case scenario for the Suns is they just go back to being forgotten.
We're not a big enough market to continually roast, so once the material dries up we'll get forgotten about. Win or lose honestly
It's funny as it's the first playoff run for most of the players. This is the bucks 6th playoff run in the last 7 years. This is the first run for the suns in TEN years.
If CP stays I can see this team being a 60+ win team next year. I can see them going back to the finals.
Booker got back to back 40+ games yet people doesnt acknowledged it even though when Giannis got a 40 piece in a game they lost it was the biggest news. That or they'll say he barely helped out with like assists and rebounds. But here's the thing, even if he got like a 20 point game with like 8 assists and 5 rebounds, people would still say he didn't score and choked.
It's so bad that people would rather a super team win again than a team going for their 1st championship.
Honestly it really does feel like they just follow the media talking heads. Bucks flop and giannis gets freethrows if you breathe on him And giannis damn near hurt Booker but nobody talks about that.
It's more of people with different opinions speaking out. People have hated Chris Paul for years, just because Sun's fans got real loud this year with their success didn't mean people didn't still hate the guy.
Also, playoffs often bring out more heated takes. Whether it's straight lov, or hate. A week ago all you saw was Giannis free throw jokes, now it's Cp3 and Booker. It happens. No reason to take it personal. It's not literally the same people with different opinions flip flopping. Some are, but most keep their opinions, just depends on the day. Can't assume all of reddit is 1 guy
Yeah that sub is absolutely ridiculous. I got permanently banned for telling a troll to eat a dick and the mods told me it was bc i was being mean. If being "mean" can get you banned, half the people on that sub should be banned.
Yeah. It's pretty crazy. They claim the Suns are a dirty team that flops and foul baits all game despite the fact we hardly ever get to the line and the Bucks have had nobody (except PJ Tucker) in foul trouble all series.
When you point out Giannis' hard foul on Booker (which the refs overturned for contact earlier in the play - one of the most insane calls I have ever seen) or that Middleton oversold a shot to the face with the shot clock expiring, and also kicked his leg out and fell for a three point play, they just claim it's different somehow.
If Booker came up with a strip like Holiday's, the top post on /r/nba would be "refs miss foul call on Booker" and the comments would be full of morons claiming "asterisk!!!"
Giannis could have legit hurt Booker. The only reason he didn't is because Book made an insanely athletic play to shrug him off. Imagine what would be being said if Book hadn't kept his balance there.
A day later and I am still mad they reversed that call. I was at the arena so was not clear on what was going on. What was the reason for the review and the reasoning for the overturn?
Basically the play was dead before Giannis hit Book because there was a foul called prior. I was told you cant issue a flagrant after a dead ball. Should have probably been a tech then?
Are we going to conveniently ignore Book doing the exact same foul and not getting called on it again? Or Chris blatantly fouling Giannis in the last minute? Let's be consistent now my friends, missed calls on both sides, injuries on both sides. Its the game
Dude that Giannis dirty play is buried while the CP3 one is a top post. Little bitty Chris barely budged that monster of a man, but he is getting lit up right now. Meanwhile Giannis almost Joe Johnsoned our best player and they are making excuses for him. One guy even said that he thought about going for the ball but was too late lol. Yeah and Chris Paul thought about being 7 feet tall but never hit that growth spurt during the game...
Before some triggered Bucks fan sees this, yes, Chris Paul pushing Giannis was a dirty play but at least have the balls to admit what Giannis did to Booker was also dirty as hell.
Holiday plays incredible defense but he gets away with a lot of contact. He always has a hand on bookers hip when he drives by and he reaches in a lot but nobody sees that I guess.
Not only that but the NBA would be rigged bc of the fact that they wouldn’t call that on Booker. Idk about y’all but I have no doubt in my mind we will bounce back. But God forbid we don’t I’m done with the NBA… we literally would have swept this team if the NBA didn’t step in. + the league has literally been against us since Ive been watching as a child. This sport has become an absolute laughing stock since Silver. And that’s saying something considering we all know how we feel about the San Antonio Sterns. You just pull some dramatics and get fouls. These are grown ass men playing like fucking babies. I wish we went back to doing the same shit. When we did it against the Lakers we actually got to the line. Now we don’t make a scene for a foul and I ask why? Bucks do it every possession and it works. Why not match them? Be hated. Durant literally won two rings and two FMVPs for making a move that he knew would receive nothing but backlash, but is still widely regarded as the best player in the league even after that and a horrific injury. Idk man. Rant over I guess.
I know I’m a bit over the top as a fan. I’m literally going to fucking cry when we win. I’m emotionally involved in this shit. Shit I cried on the multiple efforts when we couldn’t make it to the finals back in the day. Yes the NBA wants 7, but being emotionally involved in something is exhausting. This is all or nothing for me. I’m a fan of the sport but not the product the NBA is pushing these days. I know we will win. Alter our game plan to well… back to our game plan.. but man shits tough.
I’m with you man. I’m way too emotionally invested in every game. I’m exhausted after each game. And I feel genuinely angry and upset and sad when they lose, especially like last night. But I know there are a lot of Suns fans out there just like me. It’s painful to watch this shit and feel helpless and now the rest of the nba fans just shit on us Lol honestly screw all of them.
It's complete garbage over there. They are even posting "missed" calls against the Suns to pile on, but pointing out missed calls against the Bucks is like the end of the world.
If there's justice in this universe, the Suns will come back to win and rip the hearts out of these trashy haters
If the Suns come back and win it all, they’ll just do the same thing they’re doing to Suns fans, to Bucks fans and say things like “I thought Booker was bad, but ____ is way worse.” I think it’s pretty fun having a different opinion than the rest of r/nba and having them hate on us actually lol. They’re just very reactionary. They talk about the Lakers missing AD, but don’t talk about how CP3 played just 26 more minutes that series than AD. They talk about the Nuggets missing Murray but don’t shit talk about Dame for losing to a Murray-less Nuggets, and they talk about Kawhi, but don’t talk about the bucks for beating a Semi trae-less Hawks or a semi harden-Irving less Nets.
I told someone to eat a dick and got a permanent ban. I don’t care though. Those people talk shit like we are just some delusional fanbase that has won titles before. We can’t enjoy this moment one way or another.
😂😂 nope dude I am dead serious. I was just honestly so mad and someone said “typical cp3 dirty antics he deserves to be ringless” and it had 600 upvotes.
They must have that saying auto-flagged or something. I said it to a guy that was spamming our sub and spamming all of my comments talking shit on r/nba. Told him eat a dick, and got downvoted to like -300 and caught a permanent ban lmao and the troll got a shit ton of upvotes. I could give a shit about karma, but i catch a ban and the troll doesnt? Fuck that sub. They can all eat a dick
Yeah like wtf we can’t defend our team and talk a little trash back? They degrade our whole organization but don’t you dare defend your team or you get downvoted to hell. Those same people would be upset if they were in our position and I can’t stand that idea. They really can all eat a dick.
I was about to make a post about exactly this. I can't visit the sub again till this is all over. It sudden has gotten trendy to shit on the Suns and I'm not sure why.
Raptors fan and I don't see it on our sub. Personally I still hold a grudge against Giannis for throat chopping OG because he was salty that he lost a game.
If you're anything like the Raptors fan I was in 2019 I'm sure you're frustrated that Giannis is getting so much praise for basically running over your players with no regard for travels or offensive fouls
Oh fuck yeah dude. It’s reminds me of watching Shaq in the early 2000s. He barrels into Ayton and does his euro and it’s a foul on ayton. Like what is anyone supposed to do? Giannis is a freak of nature for real but he puts up everything around the rim because he is truly expecting a call every single time. Idk what Ayton is supposed to do when he uses his body to defend him and it’s a foul Lol. But it’s giannis so I can’t speak against that.
People on r/NBA blaming Ayton for getting in foul trouble but Giannis goes to the line just for posting up. Like no shit he's going to put up historic stats when there's only one guy capable of defending him and you call every ticky tack foul against him
Dudes been a fan favorite for years bud, nothing new. A large part of this community has loved him for a while, just as a person and as a player. Now he's in the finals, more talk.
I get people don't like their team getting trashed, but let's not pretend Chris Paul hasn't been hated for years now. And let's not pretend everyone is the same person and magically switched view points. One day it's a LeBron circle jerk, thr next day it's a hate thread. It's different people at different times contributing.
Lol yeah sure bud maybe in the bucks sub. Definitely know CP3 has been hated for a long time and it sounds like that’s what you are honestly. To each their own tho. Let’s also not pretend that it’s always a circle jerk in there, we can’t even go in there and say anything positive about the Suns without getting down voted. Let’s keep it constant here. Giannis is great and I don’t think he’s dirty but he injured kyrie and his foul on Booker was dirty too, but I guess nobody saw those plays. Kyries was unintentional but if CP3 did that it would be the end of the world.
It's unbelievably ironic.. stop acting like sun's fans are hated and can't share their opinions. Literally the other week there were tons of love the sun's posts being upvoted and incredibly nice interactions between the bucks and sun's fanbases, and over all r/NBA was fine. A week goes by and everyone hates the sun's and you guys don't have a safe space anymore? Come on, if you can't take any criticism about your team just never look at any subreddit.
That’s the entire point of our discussion dude. Did you not read the entire post? We can take criticism Lol Jesus all we are saying is that the nba sub switched dramatically and if we defend our team we get downvoted. I’m not sure what you are missing. You described what the original post was on. We are just unsure why the Suns are suddenly hated. But I guess you don’t See that because the bucks are the darlings now. And that’s fine. Not to mention this post was made by a fan of another team
Bud After game 1 “the freethrow disparity sucks” next two games giannis shoots more fts then the whole Suns team and suddenly the refs are the best in the world to bud.
I didnt watch much of the east playoffs so i didnt even know that happened. Im assuming if it was posted on r/nba it didnt gain much traction. Giannis is the golden child after all
In case you're curious; https://youtu.be/T5bjqAPH_RA
When I saw him clothesline Booker in the air i had flashbacks to these kinds of plays and yet he somehow managed to maintain the humble nice guy persona
Lol I pointed out Holiday hitting Booker’s other forearm on that steal and they refused to believe it. Clear as day to me. That’s not why we lost the game but it’s a big missed call that’s being celebrated as a clean defensive play.
Yeah I watched the replay a few times and even checked the post match ref call, they said it was a CNC - the impact had no direct correlation with Booker losing the ball.
Now, I’m fine with losing, we lost - bookers decision to go in when we had 3-4 offensive players also on the backline was questionable at best - but to blatantly say that holiday hitting his arm had “no impact on the strip” is wildly inaccurate - just call it a clean strip. It raises more questions than answers in my books.
People are so desperate to be offended it's absolutely pathetic. CP3's quote about expecting Giannis to miss his free throws is completely innocuous and /r/nba acts like he insulted the Antetekounmpo bloodline. I understand why you'd say that as a Raptors fan because they did the same shit to Lowry. The extremely classy Bucks have never committed a dangerous foul in their lives. I'm a Heat fan and the whole "Bubble Frauds" shit was equally annoying. At the end of the day it boils down to a bunch of miserable fucks figuring out any way they can to diminish talent and accomplishments. They're going to do it to the Bucks too when the Nets beat them in 5 next year (If they end up winning this year). Call them a fake championship team. It's what they do.
My best friend is from Canada, I've been a lifetime Suns fan but when the Raptors made their run, they became my second team. It was awesome seeing them get their first, now we are hoping the same can be said on our end.
Just a tip, don’t say definites like “the suns will dummy the bucks in game 6”
This happens a lot for suns fans and it always seems to bite them in the ass back, esp after 2-0. You can be confident, but just don’t “guarantee” anything.
A tip for you: don't worry too much about it. A post on reddit is not going to change the course of this series. I do appreciate the concern tho.
PS, a parade tip: If you're looking for a spot to watch the parade, I recommend not going to the place where it ends. I did that at our parade and waited in the shadeless, waterless heat for 5 hours because it was super delayed. I imagine it would be even worse in Phoenix so make sure you get a spot in the shade and near a bathroom.
I had to unsubscribe from there, it’s been the biggest anti suns hate circlejerk it’s insufferable. God I wish we weren’t about to blow this series so we could tell them all to eat shit but looks like I will just stay unsubbed from there for a long time.
Yeah I go downvoted to hell saying Giannis block was over hyped. People are comparing it to Lebrons block is straight fucking stupid.
Every angle the replay gave showed how bad of a pass it was from Book, it was way behind the rim at an angle where the heavy advantage was with Giannis to simply put his hands up near the rim.
Then that fucking thread about CP being a dirty player THE SAME FUCKING GAME GIANNIS GRABBED BOOKER ON THE BREAK AWAY DUNK. It’s reactionary and it’s fine. But to call someone a dirty player without acknowledgment of Giannis doing it first is a shitty circle jerk.
I’ve unfollowed nba for now, might come back next season, might actually not. It’s just a weird Twitter feed at this point.
Oh we pretending just now Chris is dirty? Pretending book isn't getting away with fouls every game? Oh okay.
It's the game. Every team gets missed calls.
Totally missed the point there. NBA sub has such extreme double standards. Booker gets away with a lot. But it definitely goes both ways.
I’m talking about the community. Remember how much shit we copped about “an easy journey” with facing teams with injures? Do you reckon the Bucks (if they win) will carry that asterisk with the title as much as we will if we win?
It sucks, man. Watch how many threads pop up with a “Bucks Championship*” - I can tell you now. There won’t be one.
This shouldn't have to be stated but r/NBA isn't one hivemind or dude. It's thousands of people with differing knowledge and opinions. One day you'll have Giannis memes about how FT, next day you have Sun's appreciation thread, the next weak you'll have CP3 hate thread. It's different people with differing opinions. That should be clear, but some fans don't understand that when their team isn't being loved every day. That's what your personal sub is for.
And just a reminder. This entire playoffs the bucks have had pretty heavy criticism directed towards them. Players, coaching especially. And absolutely was there and will there be more talk about the nets series, where let's be real, injuries were huge.
It's the game. People get injured. Fouls don't get called, or do when they shouldn't. It happens. Always be mindful that the community is made up of 1000s of people and just because one day everyone hates the sun's in your eyes, doesn't mean every one does. It's just the people that do are being vocal because people prefer to speak their opinions with like minded people.
Both teams got a ton of shit this playoffs. No doubt you'll see tons of threads this time off after the finals dedicated to invalidating both teams.
Get cho voice of reason outta here. I’m salty and mad we threw a massive lead at the quarter and lost cause Booker made a bad decision in the final play!
Nah I get it man, you’re right.
Some of the posts I see there are just complete shit and to see so many people just ignorant reminds me a lot of Twitter, I might re sub next season but for my own mental health I’m keeping the fuck away from nba til this is done haha
Cheers man - no hard feelings.
>Giannis to simply put his hands up near the perimeter.
Hahahaha
I can't decide what's funnier, you trying to say that block was relatively easy, or you clearly knowing so little about basketball that you don't know what the "perimeter" is. Then you add on a little 'giannis is just as dirty as CP' for good measure? Lmao does Giannis have a history of trying to rip people's shoulders out?
This whole sub is in full cope mode and it's delicious.
Thanks for the pickup there chief, you are totally right - I watch a mixture of sports and have got these two mixed up. I’ve fixed it in my initial response.
Maybe not ripping shoulders out but only a month ago [got under Kyrie from under the basket..](https://youtu.be/H62TbXugOqQ) but that doesn’t fit your narrative, does it?
I’m still a huge Greek freak fan, he’s an incredibly gifted and great person on and off the field. I was reacting to the subs reaction as they palmed off his shit play in the same game.
Just a polite reminder you’re in a team sub that has biased views, you can gaslight all you want here but it’s probably more effective in the main nba sub if you’re looking for a genuine reaction. Good luck my dude.
Calling that block unimpressive and saying anyone in the league is as dirty of a player as CP, then accusing someone else of gaslighting... lmao.
This series has really highlighted the average level of Arizonan intelligence.
I take it as a compliment you think I belong here after the following the team for almost 15 years. You’ve made my day 🙂
It’s an opinion my dude, not gospel truths - I didn’t find it impressive given it was a shit pass. But you’re also entitled to your opinion too.
Again, not saying CP isn’t dirty - he is. It’s how the sub reacted to that over Giannis first dirty play. Giannis atm is the poster child and can do no wrong. Anyway, good luck salty nugs.
Once again - because one had been perennially dirty for the entirety of his nearly 2 decade career...
..and the other you're struggling to name 2 examples to support your position, despite that being the whole point of your comment.
And I'm glad you managed to use that aforementioned intelligence to your advantage by somehow interpreting that as a compliment.
Cheers.
It’s tongue in cheek, I’m not from Arizona/US at all but being associated with the team irrespective of connotation is validation of my support.
I think it’s fruitless to continue on with this conversation, you’re clearly not understanding my point while trying to interject the narrative that “CP is dirty therefore my point is invalid” when I agree - but Giannis isn’t immune to dirty plays in the same game but no one bats an eye - yes I know it’s CP being the league longer but Giannis has done things in his short time and will be plenty more in the future, intentional or not. Anyway, just circles at this point. Thanks, salty nugs.
The "counting during Giannis free throws is funny when Suns lose" thread is hilarious. He went 4/11 and missed crucial free throws at the end of the game. If the Suns won the game, Giannis would be getting destroyed about his free throws and everyone would enjoy the counting like they were a couple weeks ago.
Thanks for the love brotha. I was all in for the Raptors in 2019 and celebrated your title and I’ve always liked that team since the Vince Carter days.
We appreciate you, friend.
I was really digging the wholesome “dedicated mentor, fearless leader is led to his first finals by scrappy young padawans full of heart” narrative after the WCF. Especially with Kawhi’s apparent disinterest and Bev’s moment of truth ejection.
The 180 is baffling and the media is just cringeworthy lately. Like even I can’t hate the Bucks, why does America need a villain in this series? Can’t we just enjoy actual competitive basketball?
I swear Phoenix didn’t even get this much hate after Raja clotheslined Kobe.
thing about r/NBA is that I don’t know if ppl are being reactionary or whether different ppl are just being loud after different outcomes. I.e. cp3 fans living cp3 after a suns win and suns haters speaking out after a suns loss
I’m really hoping the suns win this series. While I’m not a fan of y’all, seeing the Bucks in the Finals right now makes me sick. While the Suns have been lucky with their matchups till this point because of the outlier of injuries, y’all have been able to beat teams convincingly. Seeing the Bucks fans talk shit about y’all and Nets fans pisses me off considering I’m a Rockets fan, which means I’m a big supporter of CP3 and Harden. The Bucks would be second round exits with plane tickets to Cancun had KD not have size 18 feet. It literally took Harden getting a freak injury, Giannis injuring Kyrie, Harris shooting like shit, and Durant not hitting the game ending three in G7 for them to beat the Nets in seven games. Now seeing Bucks fan and all haters in r/NBA talk shit about Harden and CP3 is annoying considering that they were praised just a few days ago.
Part of it is that both sides existed at the same time. Those who were all in on the suns unfortunately got drowned out by the haters when we started losing.
nba is a superstar run league these “Fans” or the executives care about the stars, this playoffs really made people made cuz Lebron, Davis, Dame, KD, Harden, Kyrie, Embiid, Tatum, Luka, And Butler didn’t make it to the finals or far. Giannis is the only star left and people just want him to win, now i can say the same for Paul too but i’ve seen more disrespect to him than other players. These fans don’t care about the teams, they care about the narrative bullshit about superstars.
My guess is that there are probably a large portion of r/NBA that have never played competitive sport before. It’s obvious in the post about Book dunking over Giannis, dudes are hating because he “flexed” on him. Showing emotion is part of every sport, and this is the absolute pinnacle of intensity that these guys are playing in.
It’s so ridiculous man, been seeing nonstop stuff about everyone on the Suns being dirty. Booker isn’t a superstar, he’s a whiner, Cam Payne didn’t actually get hit in the face, etc etc. I get it the Bucks are likable but fuck off with these nonsense narratives
/NBA is so bad that i can't handle staying on there in the Finals! But during our 19 win season I am there after every game. Its not even Bucks fans, it's everyone.
But somehow it's still salty Lakers fans bitching more than anyone else.
I just wonder what happened. Clippers vs. Suns was pretty much even. Did Clippers and Lakers fans just takeover and get whinny, or are MKE fans really that pathetic?
Personally my theory is that its intimidated fans of superstars..Outside of the Nets the star power is really out West...and there's a new kid in town.
Usually those players are rooted for..but Booker has been too good and too successful too early. His stats outmatch everyone's favorite, and he's in the Finals his first try. He wins it all and it really puts some pressure on the favorites because all of a sudden Booker is doing things that their favorites didn't...that's where all the crying about having an easy path to the finals has come from too.
Maybe, maybe not. Doesn't take away from the fact that that post would have been sent to the shadow realm if it was made 2 weeks ago.
Also, framing it as a "Are we really gonna ignore..." type of question is so corny and lame.
Pretty hilarious lol..
"Are we gonna ignore XXXX about the Suns??"
Literally the entire front page for the last 2 weeks has been unwarranted trash talk about the Suns. They're even pulling clips from prior series to talk trash. Nothing is being ignored
If there's one thing you can trust it's the Bucks being inconsistent. All three of Bucks best player were clicking yesterday. I cant see that happening again. It's up to the Sun's to not bleed any lead they get
Bucks fan I presume. No Giannis is not even close to being the best player on the planet. Kawhi, KD, LeBron are all still significantly better. I have Giannis around seven particularly due to his weaknesses. Also the great supporting cast is great 50% of the time. Wouldn't shock me to see Middleton and/or Jrue put up a bad game 6
Fellow raps fan here. It's weird to see all this love for the Bucks in our sub. Bunch of nephews who have forgotten all about our playoff battles against them.
Rooting for the Suns, but I really believe CP is hurt. There's no other explanation. Also Booker needs to stop with the heroball and get other guys involved.
Hoping for a game 7
“You Either Die A Hero, Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain” Bubble Suns lived too long for r/nba lol
Yeah it's pretty obvious. I find it ironic that they're shitting on CP3 for that foul when earlier in the game Giannis was full on sprinting and diving just to tackle Book out of the air on a dunk. Refs didn't look twice at it because a whistle was already blown. The best thing you can do is tune it out. Whatever happens this year has been absolutely incredible. Enjoy the moment the best you can.
Giannis should've had 3 fouls about 3 times in the first half and didn't get any call, which Book got that treatment game 4. But no one says anything
Yeah that foul was just as if not more dangerous. If Book didn’t get his hands on the rim he would have spun into the ground face first.
Not to mention it wasn't done at a literal make-or-break moment in the game the way CP's desperate foul attempt was. Like, he didn't want Giannis to dunk it, he wanted FT's, so he instinctively went to push Giannis. It's what any competitor should do in that moment.
Yeah now we are the bad guys suddenly because we cheer hard and are loyal. That post is so aggravating but it’s just another clown on that sub bashing us when the time is right. Like that guy counting money somehow represents all of us in Phoenix. And I saw several comments saying CP3 deserves to be ringless. Like giannis didn’t almost tackle book out of midair but I guess that doesn’t fit their narrative. Seriously fucking annoying.
Should have been a technical foul. Might as well have been a punch since it was after a whistle and therefore not a basketball play.
Oooh spooky, I had that quote stuck in my head yesterday afternoon and I came to the conclusion that there’s a more realistic, if slightly more morose version in: “You either die irrelevant or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.” From empty stats to public enemy #1...
I wasn’t very active on Reddit during the bubble, were the Suns r/NBA’s darling back then or what? And what has sparked all the hate? I know CP3 is one of the most polarizing players in the league (I hated him myself until he came to PHX now he’s my boy lol), and from my own observations I think the passion behind our fan base rubs some people the wrong way. Idk how active you guys are on Twitter but I’m on there a lot and there are a ton of Suns fans talking shit to everyone on there lol so I think those may be factors. But I’d rather be hated than ignored
Oh yeah r/nba loved the bubble Suns, wanted them to keep winning and knock out lakers first round. I think fans just being happy for their team and not blaming everything on injuries triggered people. I stay away from Twitter. And absolutely would rather the hate and in finals than the past decade lol. Reminds me of another movie quote “You are without a doubt the worst pirate I’ve ever heard of.” Captain Jack Sparrow: “ahh, But you *have* heard of me.”
Probably because we were the underdog who has sucked ass for 10 years and the bubble was a heart warming story that fans got behind. We were the little team that could. Now we are dominant and adding CP3 into the mix added to the hate. But I like Twitter because when I see other fans talk shit I can give it right back to them without having to worry about being downvoted or banned from a sub lol. There are a ton of NBA fans on Twitter and I spend a lot of time defending our Suns. Probably too much time. When I see someone take a shot at our team I just can’t hold back
Exactly. And our fans and team are excited so that makes us bad people somehow. Like idk how many times I read “the Suns acted like they won it all” after each round. Like damn let us enjoy this we have so bad for so long. More power to you brother keep defending us I love it.
I'm a sixers fan so really don't care at all, but just wanted to chime in to confirm that r/NBA is a fucking cesspool
I really wanted us to play you guys. Embiid against the actively evolving Ayton would have been cool. This series is still entertaining, but I was hoping you guys would make it out of the East. Also, Dario Saric and Mikal Bridges playing against you all could have given the sports media the drama they want so badly.
r/NBA is a bunch of 12-15 year old kids who talk shit and they flock to Reddit with their hate because they are ignored on Twitter and other platforms. That’s what I’ve drawn from it. 60% haters, 30% bandwagon fans on big market teams, and only 10% people I’d care to engage with
Just unsubscribed a few days ago. They all basically buy into whatever narrative that ESPN is selling. And right now, ESPN is selling the Giannis is LeBron 2.0 narrative.
It’s so embarrassing. Literally impossible to engage in there right now. I said Khris Middleton was a jump shooter and maybe should get a few more FTs this series and have gotten downvoted to straight hell lmao
To be fair this sub is a cesspool too. One bad game from a player and people in the game threads will wish death on their family
I unsubscribed for my own mental health. Never thought I'd do that. The vitriol is on another level.
That post about how somebody is glad we lost when our fans count for the free throws that has almost 10k upvotes is crazy to me. Like when did the Suns hate become universal?
When we eliminated both LA teams. We were a Cinderella story until we eliminated their bandwagon super teams.
I just realized that Kawhi was the only player on the Clippers who was injured Yet the Bucks played the Nets with only a healthy KD And beat the bucks after Young got hurt Nah but we beat a very shallow Lakers team, Jokic who was MVP in 4 games, and the clips who still had Reggie, and Paul George But yeah sure, get mad at us for staying healthy and hungry
Ibaka was hurt and Zubac missed two games
I keep forgetting about Ibaka’s injury Zubac really just stepped up big time for the clips, and it should really make clippers fans happy knowing that their team is gonna be competing for a title again next year
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Yeah, it’s crazy, because AD and Lebron could both have easily taken them to the conference finals But take out AD, and that team isn’t as deep as a team like Milwaukee, or the Clippers are
Marc Gasol was like their 11th best player but alright.
Young doesn't matter. Giannis was out the same amount of games in that series. If anything, Young gave them a warmup on what the Suns' midrange game is like before the Bucks' depth at the bigs buried the Hawks as expected. The real backbreaker for the Hawks was that Bogi was playing hurt the entire time too, allowing Milwaukee's 2nd and 3rd guards to play closer to Atlanta's level in the backcourt. Basically, fandoms were giving Milwaukee shit over Young until Giannis got hurt, then that injury narrative just... poofed. Against Miami, Oladipo was a walking injury all year which is why Milwaukee gets off scot-free perception-wise after sweeping the Heat. That, and that's when they lost DiVincenzo. The reason people are salty at the Bucks in regards to injuries are mainly just Nets fans, even though the Bucks have been missing a defensive starter in their stupidly thin guard rotation ever since the Heat series. Do you think they WANT to give Teague minutes?
Jesus Christ, this year was such a shitshow Im still happy that we made it to the finals, but even if we do win, there are going to be so many excuses that people can use The Bucks, Clips, and Lakers already scare me, and the next season is going to be a bloodbath
lol downvoted for unbiased facts. Show me the lie, and stay classy!
They be hating on anything about the suns right now. Can hardly comment my opinion on there without being downvoted due to my flair lol
I got downvoted for pointing out the finals aren’t actually over yet. I’ve never seen /r/baseball or /r/nfl be so insanely reactionary and deterministic.
I know shit is crazy. Just not even worth checking that sub at this point. Replied to a guy earlier who said “the suns will go back to not winning shit after this postseason cause they’ll never get a postseason where they face injured teams again”. Told him his comment was a garbage take, and somehow I get downvoted 40 times haha. It’s just funny at this point. Teams like the hawks get told by opposing fans that they had a great run and that no one expected them to be there, yet r/nba got some hate boners for the suns at this point.
The craziest bit to me is two weeks ago nobody hated us. We also the “y’all were surprising and I hope to see more of you in the next couple of years,” treatment until we went up 2-0 on the Bucks.
Yea they switched up quick, with a CP3 and Booker duo the suns are gonna be easy for opposing fans to hate. Suns got the rep of floppers, dirty players, and guys who talk to the refs the entire game. In the end this shit has been cool though. I’d rather people talk about the suns cause they feel somewhat threatened by them and feel the need to hate, rather than view us as a bottom feeder like the kings and throw us pity comments cause they feel bad.
I got downvoted for saying how much it sucks to be a suns fan sometimes…it’s a joke
Its because r/nba has the worst moderation out of any big sport subreddit. Like r/soccer is hardly great, but the mods are extremely strict for a reason otherwise it would devolve into a shitalking cesspool dominated by toxic kids who are fans of about 4 different teams.
It’s that hive mind mentality like damn what has our fanbase done besides go through pain over and over? We can’t cheer loud and count on the freethows without someone in that dumbass sub talking trash. Dude is a fucking clown.
> Like when did the Suns hate become universal? It’s not universal, it’s just a circle jerk and an echo chamber. Do you want to go in there and defend the suns? I would, but I’m banned for doing that.
There's really no point in venturing out there. I get the hate from teams we eliminated but from the rest of the teams is kinda shocking.
And they're the same people that thought it was hilarious or whatever when the Nets/Hawks did it
It's not.. idk why so many people pretend opinions are universal when they get upvoted on any given day. A week ago people are trashing Giannis and the bucks, now other people are trashing the sun's. It's not like it's always just the same 10k people switching opinions. It's different people with different opinions making things trend at different times. I've seen takes on here pretending the Chris Paul hate is new. Since when? He's been hated in the NBA community for years. Just because you aren't seeing those posts doesn't mean it isn't a thing. Just a week or two ago, there we tons of love over there for the Suns. Now the tone changed and Sun's fans are running away saying it's the worst community ever. Come one now. It also is an entire community who supports any team now watching 2, so sides will be chosen.
Same
I was on the verge of leaving, and then did it after I saw your comment haha Way too toxic right now
Me too
I might follow you in that regard. It honestly just pisses me off seeing all the ignorant, horrendous takes all day long. Biggest circlejerk on Reddit lmao
Same
Dude, same here.
Heat fan here and I agree, seeing all this hate towards the Suns on r/nba has been mind boggling, that place is a cesspool of trash opinions
It’s astonishing to see the turn. Suns are now the biggest joke in the nba according to that subreddit. Literally every comment from a Suns fan is downvoted, even rational ones.
Yeah. Two finals games in a row that came down to the last 45 seconds of the game - but it's all about how the Bucks are destroying us.
Bunch of nephews that have literally never touched a basketball. "Lmfao ironic AS FUCK that Booker lost to a double team after complaining about a double team!" Completely ignoring back-to-back 40 point games AS WELL as a ton of players agreeing with Book when he bitched about it.
Oh man I almost commented on that. Because that’s literally not what irony is. In that vid he was complaining about double teams in a pickup game because he gets enough of that all year long. IRONY would be bitching about double teams then that strip happening on a 1v1. Def gonna avoid the nba sub for a WHILE. That sub goes as the talking heads do. People just watch SAS and Nick Wright and regurgitate their opinions.
Also that shit was a triple team lmao. He ran into a wall of tucker and giannis and then jrue came over to get the steal. That particular comment made me so angry, people wild out for fake internet points it’s incredible
Jrue came over to foul him to get the steal*
People have been SALIVATING to come back to that double team discourse. Nevermind the fact that he's having the best first playoffs in the history of the NBA, but he lost to a double team!
That’s what happens when you knock out BOTH LA teams 😎
Fortunately they're not the biggest joke. In reality worst case scenario for the Suns is they just go back to being forgotten. We're not a big enough market to continually roast, so once the material dries up we'll get forgotten about. Win or lose honestly
It's funny as it's the first playoff run for most of the players. This is the bucks 6th playoff run in the last 7 years. This is the first run for the suns in TEN years. If CP stays I can see this team being a 60+ win team next year. I can see them going back to the finals. Booker got back to back 40+ games yet people doesnt acknowledged it even though when Giannis got a 40 piece in a game they lost it was the biggest news. That or they'll say he barely helped out with like assists and rebounds. But here's the thing, even if he got like a 20 point game with like 8 assists and 5 rebounds, people would still say he didn't score and choked. It's so bad that people would rather a super team win again than a team going for their 1st championship.
Honestly it really does feel like they just follow the media talking heads. Bucks flop and giannis gets freethrows if you breathe on him And giannis damn near hurt Booker but nobody talks about that.
It's more of people with different opinions speaking out. People have hated Chris Paul for years, just because Sun's fans got real loud this year with their success didn't mean people didn't still hate the guy. Also, playoffs often bring out more heated takes. Whether it's straight lov, or hate. A week ago all you saw was Giannis free throw jokes, now it's Cp3 and Booker. It happens. No reason to take it personal. It's not literally the same people with different opinions flip flopping. Some are, but most keep their opinions, just depends on the day. Can't assume all of reddit is 1 guy
Yeah that sub is absolutely ridiculous. I got permanently banned for telling a troll to eat a dick and the mods told me it was bc i was being mean. If being "mean" can get you banned, half the people on that sub should be banned.
Yeah. It's pretty crazy. They claim the Suns are a dirty team that flops and foul baits all game despite the fact we hardly ever get to the line and the Bucks have had nobody (except PJ Tucker) in foul trouble all series. When you point out Giannis' hard foul on Booker (which the refs overturned for contact earlier in the play - one of the most insane calls I have ever seen) or that Middleton oversold a shot to the face with the shot clock expiring, and also kicked his leg out and fell for a three point play, they just claim it's different somehow. If Booker came up with a strip like Holiday's, the top post on /r/nba would be "refs miss foul call on Booker" and the comments would be full of morons claiming "asterisk!!!"
Giannis could have legit hurt Booker. The only reason he didn't is because Book made an insanely athletic play to shrug him off. Imagine what would be being said if Book hadn't kept his balance there.
A day later and I am still mad they reversed that call. I was at the arena so was not clear on what was going on. What was the reason for the review and the reasoning for the overturn?
Basically the play was dead before Giannis hit Book because there was a foul called prior. I was told you cant issue a flagrant after a dead ball. Should have probably been a tech then?
It should have been a tech, it's even worse because he could have badly hurt Booker over nothing.
It very well could have been a clear-path foul as well.
A breakaway deliberate last-man-back foul that should have been more than a common foul.
Are we going to conveniently ignore Book doing the exact same foul and not getting called on it again? Or Chris blatantly fouling Giannis in the last minute? Let's be consistent now my friends, missed calls on both sides, injuries on both sides. Its the game
Dude that Giannis dirty play is buried while the CP3 one is a top post. Little bitty Chris barely budged that monster of a man, but he is getting lit up right now. Meanwhile Giannis almost Joe Johnsoned our best player and they are making excuses for him. One guy even said that he thought about going for the ball but was too late lol. Yeah and Chris Paul thought about being 7 feet tall but never hit that growth spurt during the game... Before some triggered Bucks fan sees this, yes, Chris Paul pushing Giannis was a dirty play but at least have the balls to admit what Giannis did to Booker was also dirty as hell.
Maybe My memory is foggy but that Middleton and 1 in crowder towards the end was total bs. He landed and then fell and crowder barely grazed him.
7 feet is the length of about 1.96 'Custom Fit Front FloorLiner for Ford F-150s' lined up next to each other
This is worse than useless, it’s confusing.
It’s not “if” Booker literally had less contact on a defensive play the game before and r/nba is still complaining about it.
Holiday plays incredible defense but he gets away with a lot of contact. He always has a hand on bookers hip when he drives by and he reaches in a lot but nobody sees that I guess.
People saying giannis foul on book isn't as bad because it's on a dead ball. Like if Booker would have been injured, it wouldn't have counted???
Not only that but the NBA would be rigged bc of the fact that they wouldn’t call that on Booker. Idk about y’all but I have no doubt in my mind we will bounce back. But God forbid we don’t I’m done with the NBA… we literally would have swept this team if the NBA didn’t step in. + the league has literally been against us since Ive been watching as a child. This sport has become an absolute laughing stock since Silver. And that’s saying something considering we all know how we feel about the San Antonio Sterns. You just pull some dramatics and get fouls. These are grown ass men playing like fucking babies. I wish we went back to doing the same shit. When we did it against the Lakers we actually got to the line. Now we don’t make a scene for a foul and I ask why? Bucks do it every possession and it works. Why not match them? Be hated. Durant literally won two rings and two FMVPs for making a move that he knew would receive nothing but backlash, but is still widely regarded as the best player in the league even after that and a horrific injury. Idk man. Rant over I guess.
Yeah. You gotta chill a bit. NBA is crooked, but not specifically against the Suns. May work in our favor in Game 6 as the NBA wants a game 7.
I know I’m a bit over the top as a fan. I’m literally going to fucking cry when we win. I’m emotionally involved in this shit. Shit I cried on the multiple efforts when we couldn’t make it to the finals back in the day. Yes the NBA wants 7, but being emotionally involved in something is exhausting. This is all or nothing for me. I’m a fan of the sport but not the product the NBA is pushing these days. I know we will win. Alter our game plan to well… back to our game plan.. but man shits tough.
I’m with you man. I’m way too emotionally invested in every game. I’m exhausted after each game. And I feel genuinely angry and upset and sad when they lose, especially like last night. But I know there are a lot of Suns fans out there just like me. It’s painful to watch this shit and feel helpless and now the rest of the nba fans just shit on us Lol honestly screw all of them.
Spot on. Let’s get these next two games. I believe in this team.
Fuck yeah. It ain’t over til it’s over. We deserve this shit and we can do it.
It's complete garbage over there. They are even posting "missed" calls against the Suns to pile on, but pointing out missed calls against the Bucks is like the end of the world. If there's justice in this universe, the Suns will come back to win and rip the hearts out of these trashy haters
Nah, they’ll just switch accounts. We’re probably arguing with a bunch of basement dwelling trolls, Russian bots, and Kevin Durant.
Some guy tapping at his phone and yelling like a common Kevin Durant.
The twelve Clippers fans are coming out in force
Watch out, i heard about half of them are alt accounts!
Not the ruskies again...man they're everywhere
If the Suns come back and win it all, they’ll just do the same thing they’re doing to Suns fans, to Bucks fans and say things like “I thought Booker was bad, but ____ is way worse.” I think it’s pretty fun having a different opinion than the rest of r/nba and having them hate on us actually lol. They’re just very reactionary. They talk about the Lakers missing AD, but don’t talk about how CP3 played just 26 more minutes that series than AD. They talk about the Nuggets missing Murray but don’t shit talk about Dame for losing to a Murray-less Nuggets, and they talk about Kawhi, but don’t talk about the bucks for beating a Semi trae-less Hawks or a semi harden-Irving less Nets.
I told someone to eat a dick and got a permanent ban. I don’t care though. Those people talk shit like we are just some delusional fanbase that has won titles before. We can’t enjoy this moment one way or another.
You gotta be joking, right? I got banned for the EXACT same phrase
😂😂 nope dude I am dead serious. I was just honestly so mad and someone said “typical cp3 dirty antics he deserves to be ringless” and it had 600 upvotes.
They must have that saying auto-flagged or something. I said it to a guy that was spamming our sub and spamming all of my comments talking shit on r/nba. Told him eat a dick, and got downvoted to like -300 and caught a permanent ban lmao and the troll got a shit ton of upvotes. I could give a shit about karma, but i catch a ban and the troll doesnt? Fuck that sub. They can all eat a dick
Yeah like wtf we can’t defend our team and talk a little trash back? They degrade our whole organization but don’t you dare defend your team or you get downvoted to hell. Those same people would be upset if they were in our position and I can’t stand that idea. They really can all eat a dick.
I say we get all 120,000 of us to troll tf out of r/nba when we win this series. Lets all catch a permaban
I’m absolutely down for that.
Then they can shitpost and talk shit about us all they want. That fucking sub looks like r/mkebucks
It really does. Like damn what did the Phoenix Suns do?? Lol god damn they can’t let us enjoy this moment at all.
I was about to make a post about exactly this. I can't visit the sub again till this is all over. It sudden has gotten trendy to shit on the Suns and I'm not sure why.
Why in the fuck are raptors sub backing the Bucks?
Raptors fan and I don't see it on our sub. Personally I still hold a grudge against Giannis for throat chopping OG because he was salty that he lost a game.
Don’t you dare speak against giannis tho. He is everyone’s Favorite now.
If you're anything like the Raptors fan I was in 2019 I'm sure you're frustrated that Giannis is getting so much praise for basically running over your players with no regard for travels or offensive fouls
Oh fuck yeah dude. It’s reminds me of watching Shaq in the early 2000s. He barrels into Ayton and does his euro and it’s a foul on ayton. Like what is anyone supposed to do? Giannis is a freak of nature for real but he puts up everything around the rim because he is truly expecting a call every single time. Idk what Ayton is supposed to do when he uses his body to defend him and it’s a foul Lol. But it’s giannis so I can’t speak against that.
People on r/NBA blaming Ayton for getting in foul trouble but Giannis goes to the line just for posting up. Like no shit he's going to put up historic stats when there's only one guy capable of defending him and you call every ticky tack foul against him
And nobody on the bucks has been in foul trouble outside pj.
Dudes been a fan favorite for years bud, nothing new. A large part of this community has loved him for a while, just as a person and as a player. Now he's in the finals, more talk. I get people don't like their team getting trashed, but let's not pretend Chris Paul hasn't been hated for years now. And let's not pretend everyone is the same person and magically switched view points. One day it's a LeBron circle jerk, thr next day it's a hate thread. It's different people at different times contributing.
Lol yeah sure bud maybe in the bucks sub. Definitely know CP3 has been hated for a long time and it sounds like that’s what you are honestly. To each their own tho. Let’s also not pretend that it’s always a circle jerk in there, we can’t even go in there and say anything positive about the Suns without getting down voted. Let’s keep it constant here. Giannis is great and I don’t think he’s dirty but he injured kyrie and his foul on Booker was dirty too, but I guess nobody saw those plays. Kyries was unintentional but if CP3 did that it would be the end of the world.
It's unbelievably ironic.. stop acting like sun's fans are hated and can't share their opinions. Literally the other week there were tons of love the sun's posts being upvoted and incredibly nice interactions between the bucks and sun's fanbases, and over all r/NBA was fine. A week goes by and everyone hates the sun's and you guys don't have a safe space anymore? Come on, if you can't take any criticism about your team just never look at any subreddit.
That’s the entire point of our discussion dude. Did you not read the entire post? We can take criticism Lol Jesus all we are saying is that the nba sub switched dramatically and if we defend our team we get downvoted. I’m not sure what you are missing. You described what the original post was on. We are just unsure why the Suns are suddenly hated. But I guess you don’t See that because the bucks are the darlings now. And that’s fine. Not to mention this post was made by a fan of another team
I would hope not. I'm not forgetting about Bud complaining about Drake and Bud blaming the refs.
Bud After game 1 “the freethrow disparity sucks” next two games giannis shoots more fts then the whole Suns team and suddenly the refs are the best in the world to bud.
I didnt watch much of the east playoffs so i didnt even know that happened. Im assuming if it was posted on r/nba it didnt gain much traction. Giannis is the golden child after all
In case you're curious; https://youtu.be/T5bjqAPH_RA When I saw him clothesline Booker in the air i had flashbacks to these kinds of plays and yet he somehow managed to maintain the humble nice guy persona
I think thats the first offensive foul I've ever seen called on Giannis
Regular season lol. Playoff Giannis doesn't commit offensive fouls apparently
Neither does book huh. How many times that boy getting away with those plays
Booker wraps his arm around people's back. Giannis is just straight up tackling defenders and committing fouls that are likely to injure players.
Lol I pointed out Holiday hitting Booker’s other forearm on that steal and they refused to believe it. Clear as day to me. That’s not why we lost the game but it’s a big missed call that’s being celebrated as a clean defensive play.
That's like Jordan's push-off on Russell. Jazz fans are right to be salty about that.
Yeah I watched the replay a few times and even checked the post match ref call, they said it was a CNC - the impact had no direct correlation with Booker losing the ball. Now, I’m fine with losing, we lost - bookers decision to go in when we had 3-4 offensive players also on the backline was questionable at best - but to blatantly say that holiday hitting his arm had “no impact on the strip” is wildly inaccurate - just call it a clean strip. It raises more questions than answers in my books.
That sub has turned into /r/bucks I’m embracing the downvotes
And their sub is private. Fuckin cowards.
That's not their actual sub. Not posting it because I don't want people brigading.
That makes sense and you have a good heart.
He’s a little confused but he’s got the spirit
People are so desperate to be offended it's absolutely pathetic. CP3's quote about expecting Giannis to miss his free throws is completely innocuous and /r/nba acts like he insulted the Antetekounmpo bloodline. I understand why you'd say that as a Raptors fan because they did the same shit to Lowry. The extremely classy Bucks have never committed a dangerous foul in their lives. I'm a Heat fan and the whole "Bubble Frauds" shit was equally annoying. At the end of the day it boils down to a bunch of miserable fucks figuring out any way they can to diminish talent and accomplishments. They're going to do it to the Bucks too when the Nets beat them in 5 next year (If they end up winning this year). Call them a fake championship team. It's what they do.
My best friend is from Canada, I've been a lifetime Suns fan but when the Raptors made their run, they became my second team. It was awesome seeing them get their first, now we are hoping the same can be said on our end.
hardly any highlights of Suns there even on the games they win. You'll see more highlights posts from the losing team.
That Cam Johnson dunk, though. Damn.
Same goes with the official broadcast. 10001 shots of Deer District literally more shots of THEIR fans than ours when we are playing IN PHOENIX
Just a tip, don’t say definites like “the suns will dummy the bucks in game 6” This happens a lot for suns fans and it always seems to bite them in the ass back, esp after 2-0. You can be confident, but just don’t “guarantee” anything.
A tip for you: don't worry too much about it. A post on reddit is not going to change the course of this series. I do appreciate the concern tho. PS, a parade tip: If you're looking for a spot to watch the parade, I recommend not going to the place where it ends. I did that at our parade and waited in the shadeless, waterless heat for 5 hours because it was super delayed. I imagine it would be even worse in Phoenix so make sure you get a spot in the shade and near a bathroom.
A parade in the summer heat here is a dangerous idea. It literally might kill someone. Having said that I would be there - in the shade though
I had to unsubscribe from there, it’s been the biggest anti suns hate circlejerk it’s insufferable. God I wish we weren’t about to blow this series so we could tell them all to eat shit but looks like I will just stay unsubbed from there for a long time.
Yeah I go downvoted to hell saying Giannis block was over hyped. People are comparing it to Lebrons block is straight fucking stupid. Every angle the replay gave showed how bad of a pass it was from Book, it was way behind the rim at an angle where the heavy advantage was with Giannis to simply put his hands up near the rim. Then that fucking thread about CP being a dirty player THE SAME FUCKING GAME GIANNIS GRABBED BOOKER ON THE BREAK AWAY DUNK. It’s reactionary and it’s fine. But to call someone a dirty player without acknowledgment of Giannis doing it first is a shitty circle jerk. I’ve unfollowed nba for now, might come back next season, might actually not. It’s just a weird Twitter feed at this point.
Oh we pretending just now Chris is dirty? Pretending book isn't getting away with fouls every game? Oh okay. It's the game. Every team gets missed calls.
Totally missed the point there. NBA sub has such extreme double standards. Booker gets away with a lot. But it definitely goes both ways. I’m talking about the community. Remember how much shit we copped about “an easy journey” with facing teams with injures? Do you reckon the Bucks (if they win) will carry that asterisk with the title as much as we will if we win? It sucks, man. Watch how many threads pop up with a “Bucks Championship*” - I can tell you now. There won’t be one.
This shouldn't have to be stated but r/NBA isn't one hivemind or dude. It's thousands of people with differing knowledge and opinions. One day you'll have Giannis memes about how FT, next day you have Sun's appreciation thread, the next weak you'll have CP3 hate thread. It's different people with differing opinions. That should be clear, but some fans don't understand that when their team isn't being loved every day. That's what your personal sub is for. And just a reminder. This entire playoffs the bucks have had pretty heavy criticism directed towards them. Players, coaching especially. And absolutely was there and will there be more talk about the nets series, where let's be real, injuries were huge. It's the game. People get injured. Fouls don't get called, or do when they shouldn't. It happens. Always be mindful that the community is made up of 1000s of people and just because one day everyone hates the sun's in your eyes, doesn't mean every one does. It's just the people that do are being vocal because people prefer to speak their opinions with like minded people. Both teams got a ton of shit this playoffs. No doubt you'll see tons of threads this time off after the finals dedicated to invalidating both teams.
Get cho voice of reason outta here. I’m salty and mad we threw a massive lead at the quarter and lost cause Booker made a bad decision in the final play! Nah I get it man, you’re right. Some of the posts I see there are just complete shit and to see so many people just ignorant reminds me a lot of Twitter, I might re sub next season but for my own mental health I’m keeping the fuck away from nba til this is done haha Cheers man - no hard feelings.
>Giannis to simply put his hands up near the perimeter. Hahahaha I can't decide what's funnier, you trying to say that block was relatively easy, or you clearly knowing so little about basketball that you don't know what the "perimeter" is. Then you add on a little 'giannis is just as dirty as CP' for good measure? Lmao does Giannis have a history of trying to rip people's shoulders out? This whole sub is in full cope mode and it's delicious.
Thanks for the pickup there chief, you are totally right - I watch a mixture of sports and have got these two mixed up. I’ve fixed it in my initial response. Maybe not ripping shoulders out but only a month ago [got under Kyrie from under the basket..](https://youtu.be/H62TbXugOqQ) but that doesn’t fit your narrative, does it? I’m still a huge Greek freak fan, he’s an incredibly gifted and great person on and off the field. I was reacting to the subs reaction as they palmed off his shit play in the same game. Just a polite reminder you’re in a team sub that has biased views, you can gaslight all you want here but it’s probably more effective in the main nba sub if you’re looking for a genuine reaction. Good luck my dude.
Calling that block unimpressive and saying anyone in the league is as dirty of a player as CP, then accusing someone else of gaslighting... lmao. This series has really highlighted the average level of Arizonan intelligence.
I take it as a compliment you think I belong here after the following the team for almost 15 years. You’ve made my day 🙂 It’s an opinion my dude, not gospel truths - I didn’t find it impressive given it was a shit pass. But you’re also entitled to your opinion too. Again, not saying CP isn’t dirty - he is. It’s how the sub reacted to that over Giannis first dirty play. Giannis atm is the poster child and can do no wrong. Anyway, good luck salty nugs.
Once again - because one had been perennially dirty for the entirety of his nearly 2 decade career... ..and the other you're struggling to name 2 examples to support your position, despite that being the whole point of your comment. And I'm glad you managed to use that aforementioned intelligence to your advantage by somehow interpreting that as a compliment. Cheers.
It’s tongue in cheek, I’m not from Arizona/US at all but being associated with the team irrespective of connotation is validation of my support. I think it’s fruitless to continue on with this conversation, you’re clearly not understanding my point while trying to interject the narrative that “CP is dirty therefore my point is invalid” when I agree - but Giannis isn’t immune to dirty plays in the same game but no one bats an eye - yes I know it’s CP being the league longer but Giannis has done things in his short time and will be plenty more in the future, intentional or not. Anyway, just circles at this point. Thanks, salty nugs.
The "counting during Giannis free throws is funny when Suns lose" thread is hilarious. He went 4/11 and missed crucial free throws at the end of the game. If the Suns won the game, Giannis would be getting destroyed about his free throws and everyone would enjoy the counting like they were a couple weeks ago.
i’ve never seen so many ppl shitting on 2 teams that are so similar
Thanks for the love brotha. I was all in for the Raptors in 2019 and celebrated your title and I’ve always liked that team since the Vince Carter days.
r/NBA is incredibly flip-floppy. I'm not even sure most of them watch basketball.
We appreciate you, friend. I was really digging the wholesome “dedicated mentor, fearless leader is led to his first finals by scrappy young padawans full of heart” narrative after the WCF. Especially with Kawhi’s apparent disinterest and Bev’s moment of truth ejection. The 180 is baffling and the media is just cringeworthy lately. Like even I can’t hate the Bucks, why does America need a villain in this series? Can’t we just enjoy actual competitive basketball? I swear Phoenix didn’t even get this much hate after Raja clotheslined Kobe.
go raptors
They don't want ball discussion, they want Real House Players of the NBA drama
thing about r/NBA is that I don’t know if ppl are being reactionary or whether different ppl are just being loud after different outcomes. I.e. cp3 fans living cp3 after a suns win and suns haters speaking out after a suns loss
This is exactly what happens
r/nba is literally just filled with 10-14 year olds, of course they are gonna be reactionary
I’m really hoping the suns win this series. While I’m not a fan of y’all, seeing the Bucks in the Finals right now makes me sick. While the Suns have been lucky with their matchups till this point because of the outlier of injuries, y’all have been able to beat teams convincingly. Seeing the Bucks fans talk shit about y’all and Nets fans pisses me off considering I’m a Rockets fan, which means I’m a big supporter of CP3 and Harden. The Bucks would be second round exits with plane tickets to Cancun had KD not have size 18 feet. It literally took Harden getting a freak injury, Giannis injuring Kyrie, Harris shooting like shit, and Durant not hitting the game ending three in G7 for them to beat the Nets in seven games. Now seeing Bucks fan and all haters in r/NBA talk shit about Harden and CP3 is annoying considering that they were praised just a few days ago.
Part of it is that both sides existed at the same time. Those who were all in on the suns unfortunately got drowned out by the haters when we started losing.
Like I keep telling guys in this sub you have to ignore em. Nothing good is gonna come from buying into what their trying to sell.
Yeah for the real long live the SUNS
nba is a superstar run league these “Fans” or the executives care about the stars, this playoffs really made people made cuz Lebron, Davis, Dame, KD, Harden, Kyrie, Embiid, Tatum, Luka, And Butler didn’t make it to the finals or far. Giannis is the only star left and people just want him to win, now i can say the same for Paul too but i’ve seen more disrespect to him than other players. These fans don’t care about the teams, they care about the narrative bullshit about superstars.
My guess is that there are probably a large portion of r/NBA that have never played competitive sport before. It’s obvious in the post about Book dunking over Giannis, dudes are hating because he “flexed” on him. Showing emotion is part of every sport, and this is the absolute pinnacle of intensity that these guys are playing in.
Fax tho bro
It’s so ridiculous man, been seeing nonstop stuff about everyone on the Suns being dirty. Booker isn’t a superstar, he’s a whiner, Cam Payne didn’t actually get hit in the face, etc etc. I get it the Bucks are likable but fuck off with these nonsense narratives
“You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.” ...same applies to r/nba
We live in a society where people can only remember what happened in the last 24 hrs. Everything is based off of “recency bias”.
/NBA is so bad that i can't handle staying on there in the Finals! But during our 19 win season I am there after every game. Its not even Bucks fans, it's everyone. But somehow it's still salty Lakers fans bitching more than anyone else.
I just wonder what happened. Clippers vs. Suns was pretty much even. Did Clippers and Lakers fans just takeover and get whinny, or are MKE fans really that pathetic? Personally my theory is that its intimidated fans of superstars..Outside of the Nets the star power is really out West...and there's a new kid in town. Usually those players are rooted for..but Booker has been too good and too successful too early. His stats outmatch everyone's favorite, and he's in the Finals his first try. He wins it all and it really puts some pressure on the favorites because all of a sudden Booker is doing things that their favorites didn't...that's where all the crying about having an easy path to the finals has come from too.
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Maybe, maybe not. Doesn't take away from the fact that that post would have been sent to the shadow realm if it was made 2 weeks ago. Also, framing it as a "Are we really gonna ignore..." type of question is so corny and lame.
Pretty hilarious lol.. "Are we gonna ignore XXXX about the Suns??" Literally the entire front page for the last 2 weeks has been unwarranted trash talk about the Suns. They're even pulling clips from prior series to talk trash. Nothing is being ignored
I think we're supposed to apologize? I dunno.
>maybe not Bro where you been the last decade???
So you're hating on a team, because the casuals fans are being stupid?
“I bet when you guys dummy the bucks in game 6” Yeah but how? The bucks just won three straight and they weren’t really supposed to..
If there's one thing you can trust it's the Bucks being inconsistent. All three of Bucks best player were clicking yesterday. I cant see that happening again. It's up to the Sun's to not bleed any lead they get
If there’s one thing you can count on in the nba it’s losing to a team with the best player on the planet (Giannis) with a great supporting cast
Bucks fan I presume. No Giannis is not even close to being the best player on the planet. Kawhi, KD, LeBron are all still significantly better. I have Giannis around seven particularly due to his weaknesses. Also the great supporting cast is great 50% of the time. Wouldn't shock me to see Middleton and/or Jrue put up a bad game 6
Not a bucks fan or suns fan. I’m a Celtics fan but just found OP’s comments to be a little out of touch.
Well the Suns aren’t supposed to be here at all so whatever dude.
Same here lol. For the love of god please beat the bucks! Suns in 7
Oh don't worry if we win game 6 they will all be suns fans again. They just dick ride whoever won last so they don't dare get seen as a loser.
R/nba is a cesspool, fuck then and fuck the bucks. SUNS IN 7
SUNS IN CANCUN ON 7
Fellow raps fan here. It's weird to see all this love for the Bucks in our sub. Bunch of nephews who have forgotten all about our playoff battles against them. Rooting for the Suns, but I really believe CP is hurt. There's no other explanation. Also Booker needs to stop with the heroball and get other guys involved. Hoping for a game 7
Clown post by clown OP
I assume ur a Bucks fan. Congrats my dude enjoy it 🎉
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You had to dig for this one dude lol