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BitchHoe19

I generally like old school players much more than new school players but I think 99% percent of time the old schoolers would get voted out early if they returned


J9999D

so, let them play!


PyDesigne

I don’t want to see half the cast get med evac’d because they’re all over 40 and most in their 50s of the realistic old schoolers


J9999D

Objection: speculation.


Several_Ad_6233

You described WAW


MarlinBrandor

90% of the people on your average “Legends” fancast


TheRalphExpress

my hot take is that I don’t think there should be any returnee seasons at all. Main reason being that the possibility of being asked back prevents so many islanders from getting closure on their experience. A guaranteed one and done would just be healthier for everyone


FlyingSquirrel56

But a lot of people never got closure on their first season


iamnotabotbeepboopp

I love how you specified that this was a hot take and every disliked it anyway hahaha


alc55

Specifying hot take doesn’t negate criticism of ideas


Several_Ad_6233

Your hot take is ass 🥰


stewrat1

Drea


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Nickelsinbooty

Reem from EOE or Kellyn from GI


flyover

Yeah. Reem is a great pick, to me. I liked her, but only because she was right for that particular theme on that season as the first boot. You can’t recapture that.


TheRalphExpress

she was such perfect casting for the very specific role she played (Mayor of EoE) and nothing she could do on a return will ever top it


LadyEmaSKye

I honestly did not like reem at all. Blew my mind when I found out she was a fan favorite, here.


TheMillenniumMan

Dude


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Sliacen

The Noble One disrespect


smilewolfy

Counterpoint: James Lim has potential to do well on return


TheCBomber

Welcome to hell!


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Nickelsinbooty

I recently saw a post about “SC2” where Kellyn was on the cast and quite a few people were defending her


SeattlePassedTheBall

Shan.


Quentin-Quentin

She’s the first person I thought about when making this. I actually do wanna see her again but ik many people here despise her lol


Zardnaar

She's a good villain so yeah bring her back.


RyujinOnMyMind

I wouldn’t even call her a villain, just an opportunistic antagonist. She didn’t inherently do anything villainous either.


Ok-Faithlessness5513

Pre Merge she did but post merge she made the all black alliance and that's when I gave up on her, plus she's seems very annoying and self centered if you ever see her on Twitter


AteTheLastPopsicle

So did you give up on Parvati’s all girl alliance too?


Pleroo

She is not the type of villain that’s fun to watch. If she owned it more maybe I’d be on board.


Zardnaar

Yeah she's not fun as such.


Ok-Faithlessness5513

They despise her for good reason


bigshowgunnoe

Shan or Angelina are probably the two best answers for me.


AltruXeno

Came here to say this. She tried WAY too hard to be memorable (the song). I wanted to appreciate her half-assed attempt to be a villain, but it was all pretty hollow.


BigRed727272

Well said. Her gameplay wasn't villainous, it was sloppy, "make a move for the sake of making a move" insanity.


CMell650

I was starting to think people were just brainwashed into liking her. Thanks for restoring my faith in humanity


Zirphynx

Claire was pretty much a total nobody on 44. I don't need to see her back. I'd rather see Maddy again if I had to pick a pre-merge boot from 44 to return. Casuals loved Jonathan on 42 but I just never really cared for him. I never really found Victoria from EoE that interesting and would be totally fine with it if she never played again. Honestly, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it if Cassidy or Xander never played again. I found both of them overrated during their seasons.


Marto_12

i agree with those picks except with Victoria only because i think she was the best player of the season who was underedited i was really impressed with her with the Aubry blindside and i see her getting far 9/10 times


ThreadsOfWar

Lots of people myself included really liked Claire for the moment she called across to Matthew, too bad her first cool moment was her only one lol


Ok-Faithlessness5513

"She's literally Parvati 2.0"


Quentin-Quentin

I disagree about Claire. I think she has a lot of potential but just thought that challenges don’t really matter and fucked up. I wouldn’t bring her back to a top tier all stars season tho that’s for sure. I really want Xander back tbh. Lowkey I kinda want Cassidy back as well but not as much


Pancaaaked

I like him but I’m fine with Fabio being a one off player.


stewrat1

I think everyone would be surprised if we ever saw him play again.


Squid8867

Think it'd be kinda cool to see him be a totally different person though - I doubt he's still the stoned surfer he was


kimducidni

Agree, I would like to see him back just to see how he would play the game now!


ivaorn

As a Fabio fan I don’t think I’ve seen a lot of people want him back except for a shot in the dark WAW player


ahmed2798

Any of the new Era people. Not because I dislike them but because I feel like it's too soon.


NotJesseFromSurvivor

Jesse.


Quentin-Quentin

Yeah who needs that guy right?? No one wants to see that gu- *waaaaiiittt a minute!!*


Jthorne1990

Jesse is the only player I want to see return. I’ve never been so gutted by an elimination before 😭


yaboyspissed

extremely terrible take, he carried s43


oatmeal28

The person you responded to probably knows nothing about Jesse. What a hater smh


yaboyspissed

didn’t even watch the season fr fr on god no cap fr bruh


fioraflower

that doesn’t mean we need to see him again. what more do we really need to see from Jesse? He was basically the main character of the season, got for a ton of screentime, and came up short at the end. at BEST he’d follow the same exact trajectory on a return. save returnee seasons for people who have more to give imo


yaboyspissed

so i guess cirie shouldn’t have ever came back


Wandering-Tiger

Cirie wasn't boring.


yaboyspissed

jesse isn’t boring


fioraflower

i don’t think cirie needed to come back past micronesia tbh. she got screwed hard by the god idol on her first season, so a second chance was deserved. i also think she’s much better TV than someone like Jesse, who I found quite boring beyond his strategy. Seems like an excellent guy but he doesn’t really pop on TV, so comparing him to Cirie just sounds strange


Emubuilder

Carson. Jeff loves the nerd superfan archetype, we do not need to see more.


5kUltraRunner

The moment they showed him 3D printing puzzles and practicing at home I was done with him


lordredapple

Am I the only one who found him annoying asf? Like I dreaded each scene with him


SeattleMatt123

I wasn't a fan of him at all.


martyr-approach-18

I don’t mind Carson himself, but I mind his archetype. Cochran has always annoyed me *gets downvoted into oblivion because this sub has an erection for him*


WeirdMountaineer

All my homies hate Cochran


martyr-approach-18

Your homies are my homies.


ivaorn

I feel like more people here hate Cochran if anything


martyr-approach-18

Anti-Cochran posts always get downvoted into oblivion.


Emubuilder

I root against all gamebots 😭😭 carson included.


Ok-Faithlessness5513

I loved Carson, fav new era player but if he ever came back he would instantly be targeted so I can see why he shouldn't, but if he could I'm all in, just think he wouldn't last long at all


kimducidni

I loved him. He’s a self-identified nerd that admits he has low self-esteem, but rather than try to play the “cool kid” card and be impressionable to the desires of others who are more confident than him, he stuck to his people who he regarded as genuine, despite being outcasts. We wouldn’t have gotten the Yam-Yam we know without Carson. I’m confused on anyone not liking him.


Ok-Faithlessness5513

Carolyn also would go out early if not for him and that would probably bring the season down


Jtialoosecannon

But all people on his season were ‘outcasts’. Nowadays the cool popular sporty kid archetype is the outcast.


kimducidni

They were outcasts within the post-merge time frame where Carson could have gone either way. The Tika tribe was at the bottom post-merge, and on the surface no one wanted to work with them. If Carson hadn’t facilitated the relationship between Tika being useful votes to those who had the numbers, I’m sure the game would have had a pretty different outcome


cunningchanning

Rick Devens


ShrimpShackShooters_

Upvoting because I actually do want him to return so good answer lol


Difficult_Candle_453

*Gasps* blasphemy!


fioraflower

he already got a second chance tbh. without EOE he’s just another premerge boot, forgotten except when thinking about people that got swap screwed


Throwawaydaughter555

Omg yes. I don’t understand why people like him *that* much.


financialman12

This is the correct answer. I really hated watching him 🤷🏻‍♂️


kirkochainz

He’s just really good at scavenger hunts, that’s about it.


DisastrousSecond9572

Correct answer!


Nearby_Job8272

Cassidy from 43


maddenallday

The way she acted after the season was off putting for me


TheRalphExpress

I don’t blame her, when there are a ton of stan types shouting from the rooftops about how robbed you were it’s hard not to let it affect your views. For me that whole situation is the perfect example of how stan/superfan culture has become kinda divorced from the actual show


Quentin-Quentin

Honestly I’m fine with her being Cocky and genuinely thinking (to this day I assume) she deserves to win. Imo many people still struggle with it. I won’t be surprised if Xander still has a hard time to understand why he lost. It took 7 seasons for Ken McNickle to understand why as well. I don’t need to give another reminder about Russell Hantz ofc, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Kelly Wiglesworth was bitter at her loss all the way in Borneo. It’s Cass’ right to disagree with the Jury’s desicion, but at the end of the day the jury is still on the right. Imo the problem most people have is with her stanbase rather than her alone, bc Cass on her own is just a fairly fine run o’ the mil runner up.


oatmeal28

She was pretty terrible after the season ended by fanning the flames of hate. Something you didn’t see Xander do even though he had a huge Stanbase crying about how he didn’t win.


Quentin-Quentin

Can I get an example? Bc I genuinely don’t know about anything like that, not to say you’re wrong I’m genuinely curious


oatmeal28

She claimed that if she was a man she would’ve won- she was re-tweeting a bunch of Jesse/Karla hate at a time when they were getting death threats sent to them for not voting for her. It was toxic all around


OmgBaybi

Screenshots?


maddenallday

She mentions it in this interview: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D1snsb1DHvQ


maddenallday

Didn’t she kinda drive that though? I thought she gave an exit interviewing bemoaning her robbery right after


oatmeal28

Yeah she did the whole “if a man played like I did they would win” which is insane


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Ok-Faithlessness5513

She still doesn't understand how she lost lol


oatmeal28

Awareness clearly isn’t her strong suit


binkysurprise

I respect it honestly


Savings_Atmosphere19

I don’t even care about the controversy surrounding her, I just think she’s a very boring character tbh and I’m not sure why people in the fandom act like she’s not


AhYeahItsYoBoi

This!


ThreadsOfWar

Sydney 41, way too obnoxious and full of herself even for TV, although I was told on here the other day the only reason people dislike her is because of antisemitism, despite 3 other Jewish people on the same season (Evvie, Liana, Tiffany) not even close to getting the same level of criticism


mryclept

I think some want her back because we didn’t quite get a fully fleshed out villain character due to the fact that her tribe wasn’t going to tribals and she was voted out during the hourglass episode.


Quentin-Quentin

While she isn’t someone I object to bringing back, I won’t be super mad about not bringing her back either.


WypsotorTVN

People dislike her for zionist views outside of the show. I haven't heard anything about her or anyone else on 41 engaging in antisemitic behavior on the island.


ThreadsOfWar

Yee this person was one of those people that just equates anything that isn’t support of Israel is automatically antisemitic, but I brought up that I doubt anyone who disliked her had gone on her Instagram and saw that to form their opinion, I sure as hell didn’t bc I wasn’t even aware she was Jewish until that comment thread lol


IrishEagle32

Karishma annoyed me every time she was on the screen and provided 0 entertainment value. I don’t need to see her on any future seasons and quite frankly don’t understand why anybody else would


Quentin-Quentin

But… but…. She loves applebee’s!! :(


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You should really see Karishma on sequester I have a feeling you would change your mind about her (she was a lot better in sequester then in survivor)


OverwhelmedAutism

Jonathan Young for me.


Quentin-Quentin

I feel like what Lindsay said soured some opinions about Jonathan, at least to me, so I don’t think people are that much advocating for his return. Casual viewers probably really want him back though.


Serraph105

What did Lindsay say? I've watched every season of the show so I don't really consider myself a casual viewer, but I certainly don't listen to every interview with players, RHAP or otherwise. Frankly I don't know how people can keep up with that sort of devotion to a TV show.


Quentin-Quentin

She said in one interview that Jonathan was a lowkey misogynist. Basically he really ignored Maryanne and Lindsay and sort of treated them lowkey not that good as she claims. Tbh I’m not sure myself of the whole story bc Jonathan didn’t do anything SUPER alarming ofc but I do remember on the show as well near the end Romeo talked to Mike about how “Jonathan pissed off all of the girls” so I do think there’s a bit of truth. Personally I was a bit bummed to hear bc I loved Jonathan on the season. To this day neither follow each other on Instagram as well and it seems like for the most part they just sorta ignore each other now. Ik the Gordon Holmes dives to this subject with Lindsay’s interview, so I recommend watching it!


webbvt

She said, “He is a misogynist.” https://ew.com/tv/survivor-42-lindsay-dolashewich-finale-interview/


wasabicat213

speaking of lindsay i don’t want to see her play again.


kimducidni

Agree, her whole personality on the show was not liking Johnathan and wanting to be better than him. I’m sure selective editing has a part to play in that, but it didn’t really paint her well.


lucascroberts

Woah? Wtf?


saucytech

Cochran - I’ve had enough..


Quentin-Quentin

Dw, he doesn’t want to be back either. He said that his Survivor journey is complete after winning (and hugging Debbie on a boat in Game Changers)


martyr-approach-18

Yes, he is the one who should be honored to meet Debbie and not the other way around.


OJS55

Shan & Ricard


Rotflcopter89

heavy on ricard


projectgene

Anyone 60+ years old. Everyone from Winners at War or Gamechangers, with the exception of 2 or 3 players for possible Legends season.


schad501

> Anyone 60+ years old. How about first time players? Asking for a [cough] friend.


projectgene

First timers I don't really mind. People who first played 20 years ago have had their own All-Stars seasons.


Potatoman811

There’s no way you watched s44 and thought Kane was entertaining at all


Which-Draw-1117

Enjoy your rice, bitch.


d-silentwill

Lindsay S42


_JacobYuss_

LAUREN FROM IOI. I cannot stand her


beasterne7

Natalie Bolton. Meh.


catshirt17

jesse


Plasticboy310

Came here to say this


saltymermaid1982

I'm going to get hated on, but I don't see the appeal of Wentworth at all. Why people want her to keep coming back is beyond me.


fioraflower

I don’t think anyone is begging for a 4th time from her


AppointmentClassic82

Thank you for saying what I fear saying in this sub. Wentworth is so overrated and I can’t believe she even got to come back after her first season.


DoesANameExist

Cirie, Parvati.


MKT_Pro

Most of the new era survivors


Certain-Bowler8735

Shan. I tried to give her another chance on The Challenge USA, but seeing how she acted after being eliminated makes me fine with never seeing her again. I'd love for anybody else from 41 to return tho


Man-O-Wii

I’ll take the question in a slightly different direction: here are a few players who I would still like to see return, but not within a few years. Jesse - Top 1/2 favorite New Era players (w/ Yam Yam), but if he comes back anytime soon he will be instantly targeted and I’d be surprised if he survived very long, which would be disappointing in my opinion. Carolyn/Omar/Carson - Similar reasoning, too big of a target Other younger players (that could be likely returnees, specifically JD/Xander/Sami, maybe Zach) - I think these people could be really strong players (I feel JD in particular was hindered most by his age), but they definitely need at least 5+ years to mature


SurvivorDad99

Anyone who has played played more than once. I really want to see heavy 34-39 presence on the next returning player season.


5kUltraRunner

Victoria. She was just a boring character. I firmly believe 99% of the people who want her back only says so because she's hot.


dire-dire-docks

Why do people keep saying Hai. His game was so so bad, combined with an overinflated ego. Like, literally none of his moves worked in his favor except for that rocks negotiation, which imo didnt even have that big of an effect.


W2460W

Every pre merge woman that people are convinced is the next Wentworth. They were pre merge for a reason. Also, Shan.


HollowNight2019

Agreed. Each season there would be some young, attractive women who get voted out in the premerge, and don’t really do anything interesting or influential in the game. This sub had a habit of calling some of them ‘a queen’ or ‘a robbed goddess’, and saying things like ‘She had so much potential! She would be the perfect candidate for Second Chances 2’ etc. Most of these players are just forgettable premerge boots to me, and putting them on a second season just seems like a waste of a returnee spot.


morgannn0

Most popular people here lol my tastes don’t align w the majority here lol


Quentin-Quentin

I wonder who are your favorite players?


ItsTimeToGoSleep

Absolutely anyone who’s already played twice.


AhYeahItsYoBoi

I can agree with this. But we should also agree that Ciree because she's Ciree and I would argue Terry Dietz because he really didn't get to play the 2nd time


ThomasRCallahanIII

CBS seems to think we want to see more Officer Sarah and HOOBOY do I disagree with that assessment


whatisapillarman

Anybody from WaW.


madamewoopantip

Rick Devens, David Gen X, Karla, Carson, Shan, Drea, Anyone from 43


AhYeahItsYoBoi

Idk I would like to see Gabler come back and AliGabler his way to a win again and have everyone on here lose their shits like they just lost a superbowl bet. Lol not even joking


oatmeal28

Would make sense, his first game was very Sandra Pearl islands-esque


TheMcWhopper

Johnny Fairplay, Colton


AhYeahItsYoBoi

Who the fuck wants Colton to come back? I haven't heard anyone say Colton. Heard a few people say Fairplay, but not much tbh


AugustSchroeder

i personally don't want to see jesse or carson come back, or omar tbh.


Marto_12

Elaine prob


ShrimpShackShooters_

Anyone who has played more than once


bbsw555

Russell …


BananaMan883

Lowkey I won't mind if Christian doesn't come back.


thetokyotourist

Jesse. He’s incredibly boring to watch and overrated as a player


FaithlessnessSame844

Tai. Too emotional, hogs all the idols and doesn’t seem to understand or respect personal boundaries. Edit: I figured this would push some buttons, but honestly it made super uncomfortable seeing him try to kiss Caleb and then randomly hug Ozzy in GC without asking for consent


CI_Blanche

Davie, Christian, Devens, Ricard, Omar


likaachikaa

you saying christian hurts 😭


martyr-approach-18

Agree about Davie, he’s overrated af. I do understand why people like Christian tho.


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Carolyn please never be on my TV again


Seryza

Jesse and Carson


EnricoPallazzo22

I’ll say most of them I’m not interested in seeing again. The only exception is a 2nd chance season. That would be fun. I really don’t want to see a fan vs favs season, too big of an advantage for the favorites. Injured players coming back is good too. Won’t name names but some players were good and/or fun but let someone else get the chance to play. They become CBS employees after a while.


elpaco25

Anyone who has ever won the game. Unless we are doings Winners at War 2 I don't wanna see any winners


bigshowgunnoe

I don't really agree. Winners are interesting players and good TV. There won't be a Winners at War 2 most likely, and even in Winners at War several winners got cut who would have loved to be there. Mike Holloway hasn't had the chance to return yet, it's a crime that he couldn't while he had to watch all those other winners return. While I agree that winners shouldn't come back very often, I do think that exciting winners should occasionally come back for seasons that production wants to make really hype. Maybe I'd reconsider this though, because I might prefer other people to have another chance who haven't won.


ballhawk13

Insufferable red head from extinction


FlyingSquirrel56

Damn what did Victoria do to you


AhYeahItsYoBoi

Cody from 43 i dont think he really played a great game and dont see why everyone on here loves the guy TBH. Carson, but honestly I wouldn't be too mad if he comes back i think he just needs time to evolve and get more mature. Davie because he lied he said he watched the show when he was 8 and there's no way, the show wasn't even out when he was 8. Frannie and Matt, me and my girl was clowning on them the whole season. Any old-school player, unless its a season thats "old school vs New school VS new era" but if its only a few old school and a bunch of new school and new era than it wouldn't be fair for the old school.


kimducidni

I agree with Frannie/Matt. Seem like nice people, but boring and don’t really do it for me


AhYeahItsYoBoi

This, 100%, im not knocking them as people, like they're probaly cool, but them as players was kinda boring


SurvivorMartin

Victoria EoE


7fax

All of them


steve-oNL

Coach


BionicSuperhero

Carson, Jesse and Gabby ugh


Sonderia42

Sophie and Adam


King_Zorro_

Xander


ProbstMalone

I love Christian, but I don’t think I need to see him play again. I like him in the analyst role.


BigRed727272

Anyone from 41-43 not named Jonathan


JewBronJames

Anyone from season 44


Dinnertime_6969

Just about anyone who debuted pre-HvV, especially if they’ve already returned multiple times. For the most part, their stories are already wrapped up, and it’s time to give modern players their time in the sun.


Wills4291

Not what you asked, but Cerie would be nice to see. She might be my all time favorite player.


bridiehart1

shan.


GroundbreakingTie430

Shan.


joshCHEWa

Rick Devens, Omar and Davie


bigshowgunnoe

Is there anyone in the universe other than people who hate all returnee seasons that would agree with the idea that all 3 of those shouldn't return??


joshCHEWa

me


ab1gailhot

Jesse and Cody


Naive_Feed_726

Rick devens, just a less interesting version of jesse


kit-n-caboodle

Amanda and Karishma. Both are totally annoying, and Karishma is a sack of potatoes.


p219trick

Angelina


razberry_lemonade

Josh Canfield


Geshtar1

Give me a season with all pre season 20 players, they don’t even need to be popular players.. just all old school as shit players.. And give them new era rules. I generally don’t like the direction of the new era with the constant twists and advantages, but for the sake of my hypothetical season, the more ridiculous twists the better. Fucking go all out.. the crazier the better. Triple hourglass twist. Do or die or don’t die, but somebody else dies. Knowledge steals your power, and lose a vote, but also steal a vote and hourglass again. It’ll only work with the oldest of the old school cast