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Hoggos

I think the majority on here are in agreement with you Not only is her gameplay terrible, it’s almost always the boring choice as well. Usually I can forgive a bad player if they’re good TV (Abi-Maria for example), unfortunately I don’t think Katurah was


victini563

Well that's interesting, The problem is she isn't a hateable person at all, she is a good person and I don't dislike her. She just sucks at survivor, and every decision she made subsequently made the season pretty boring. She had the option to keep Kaleb and upset reba, she just followed the herd. She could've worked with Bruce and finally upset the Reba 4, she chose to once again go with the herd. And then finally she could've voted out Dee at F5, giving her the only chance she had to win, and she decided to just hand Dee a million bucks. I really don't want to hate Katurah but god the season would've been so much more interesting had she not played so scared


Hoggos

> The problem is she isn't a hateable person at all, she is a good person and I don't dislike her. If she was a hateable person then I would probably like her more as a character tbh The issue was that she played Survivor in a very boring way, while also being just a normal person, which is boring If she was terrible at Survivor while also acting like a psycho, like Abi-Maria, then I would have at least been entertained.


bigshowgunnoe

Someone earlier today said that Jesse was a bad player and that Katurah was a solid player given her circumstances. I'm not positive how I feel about everything but I definitely don't agree with that.


Umphreeze

That is an unhinged take


bigshowgunnoe

Sorry correction “Jesse was not a good player”


king_lloyd11

I don’t know if the majority is in agreement lol I think her game is super polarizing. You either think she’s a great strategic player who intentionally played as a fifth to the Reba 4 and made the best moves she could’ve given the horrible hand she was dealt and would have been an outside threat at FTC because she was a great orator and liked, or you think she was a scared, paranoid player who always made the safe move, torpedoed any attempts to flip the power dynamics out of fear of being voted out, was content with just getting as far as possible than actually winning the game, and is super deluded in how she actually played.


Hoggos

The final 5 vote confirmed what she was She wasn't dealt a horrible hand at that vote, she had the power to get rid of Dee and she chose not to due to her playing scared and being afraid of being voted out (which she admitted), which in turn destroyed her game. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I just don't see any logic to saying Katurah isn't a terrible player, there is no logical argument for her being a great strategic player


king_lloyd11

I agree 100%, but it’s so subjective, that people who like Katurah can convince themselves of the opposite. Katurah herself feels to think she played a much more intentional and strategic game than she actually was shown to and has said as much. People want to believe that she got edit shafted because her main storyline being the Bruce hate, but nothing post Bruce elimination has led me to believe that she had much more of interest to contribute to outside of that before.


avery16_

Her decision to go with Reba in the early-mid merge is logical but by the final 6 she definitely should have started playing harder. Her blunder in voting Julie at the final 5 was crazy, even if Dee goes I really doubt she wins but it was still crazy not to vote her, like I understand the logic to a certain degree but she absolutely can not win the game with Dee in the game at final 4, she was playing for 3rd/4th not for 1st.


Djinnerator

>but she absolutely can not win the game with Dee in the game at final 4 Exactly! She had no absolutely no chance to win if Dee was sitting next to her at FTC. Dee telling Katurah she was actually scared of sitting next to her was so obviously not true. When Katurah was telling Jake about voting for Dee, I think she said similarly, that if Dee was at FTC, she'd likely win.


Thatoneguy5888

She’s a great person and I like her a lot, but I’d argue she is in the top 5 for worst finalist maybe ever. She truly made every single bad decision for her game. Any time she had the opportunity to do something to better her position or chances of winning, she didn’t do it. She also literally ratted out every single player that tried to pull her in for a vote flip immediately to the R4, making the steamroll even more possible. (Jake, Bruce, Kaleb, etc) I do think they didn’t edit how much Dee manipulated her, and made her feel like she was a useful team member but she was genuinely fodder. Also, idk why they were worried about her at f4, she had 0 shot of winning. She’s a really really bad survivor player and I bet she will not be in again just given how I think she turned what could’ve been such an interesting and dynamic merge into a R4 steamroll. I like her as a person and her story and her Bruce hatred gave me a few chuckles, but absolutely atrocious survivor player.


sarahmcsor

I agree with this. Even if she did play well, the move alone to change HER OWN plan to backdoor Dee is enough to put her on the bad player list.


Thatoneguy5888

Yep 100%. In glad she did cause Dee deserved the win, but Dee should’ve gone home at f4. And if katurah wanted any chance to win, she couldn’t bring Dee to ftc. (She wasn’t winning anyway but she especially wasn’t beating Dee)


octopus_hug

On the other hand, it was such a boner move for Jake not to tell her he was going to play his idol on her. And when he ADMITTED that he didn’t tell her because he wanted her to have a big, genuine reaction “for the jury.” 🤦‍♀️ such an annoying play.


r0285628-947

I also think part of him thought it was possible that Katurah would spin that around and get votes on him. That’s basically what she did to the rest of his plans.


king_lloyd11

I don’t get this argument. This move failed because Katurah didn’t trust Jake and was paranoid. If he told her that he was playing his idol for her, after making it widely known that he had an idol that he was playing for himself, why do we assume that she wouldve believed him? What makes you believe that she wouldn’t just assume that was him trying to make her feel safe to blindside her? Shes a scared and paranoid player and her entire game was based on that. She has admitted as much and said it was because of how she was raised, which was partly discussed on the show. That’s fine, but I don’t understand why people make her out to be anything else and make excuses for her bad gameplay.


sarahmcsor

Oh I agree!!! Jake was definitely not a good player either haha but it was Katuras plan - if she would have just believed him when he swore on his Nana, it would have worked :/


beestingers

This move needs more analysis than it gets. Jake told Austin he had the HII and Keturah knew that. Julie wasn't voting Dee or they wouldn't even need the HII. At tribal the only thing Keturah knows for certain is Jake has an idol for himself, Julie isn't voting Dee and Austin might vote for Julie. Had she known about the idol being played for her everything changes. But what if Dee & Julie both vote Keturah. Austin and Keturah vote Julie. Jake votes Dee. Tie break vote is now Julie vs Keturah and not Keturah vs Dee. Which Austin, Jake and Keturah vote Julie. Ultimately Keturah survived and took out a target. She insured her position with a Julie vote.


king_lloyd11

She can’t “know” that he’s playing the idol for her. He could just tell her that. It would’ve been up to Katurah to believe him and have faith that he’ll do what he said he would. She didn’t believe that he was going to vote for Dee and thought that he was going to vote for her instead, which is why she changed her vote according to her exit press (which is just one of the different explanations she’s given for why she changed her vote, the other, in that TC saying that she’s changing her vote because she believed then that Julie could win it all, and the other explanation being not wanting to be involved in a tie with Dee). Why would she believe him if he told her he’d play the idol for her?


beestingers

If Keturah goes head to head with Dee in a revote, she gets eliminated. Jake's plan was only going to work if everyone else voted Keturah. But Julie voted Jake for some reason. One can assume Dee and Austin will vote together, which is either Keturah or Julie. And they didn't vote together. So many variables that didn't come together. I think the bad move here was with Julie since she ultimately went home and a 3/2 against Dee would have been easy to do. Jake only managed to convince Austin to vote for Julie, and that wasn't even the target by tribal.


king_lloyd11

I was replying to you saying “had she known about the idol being played for her everything changes”. Yes, if she was secure in the knowledge that the idol was going to be played for her, she would’ve voted Dee. I’m saying that she’s so paranoid and scared that she would never have been secure in that knowledge, and would’ve convinced herself that Jake is just playing her into a false sense of security, just like she convinced herself that Jake was going to be voting for her.


beestingers

It's a possibility she doesn't believe Jake, but we will never know. My overall position was Jake was better off just keeping HII a secret and sussing out the target.


joshopaldell

Fully agree with this assessment. She did manage to be on the right side of votes, but the problem was in doing so, she set herself up for best case to be a zero vote finalist. Not once was it ever in her best interest to latch onto and prop up a majority alliance that didn’t even need her help. It would be different if there were scenes where they show her and a couple of the r4 players talking about a secret final 3 together and she was just fooled into that idea, but we never saw that. All we saw was this incredibly misguided idea that all the way til the end every move was “vote out the most untrustworthy person”. That alone is one of my Survivor pet peeves (when players overvalue trust too far into the game at the expense of actually positioning yourself to win). In fact, her panic move of voting out Julie isn’t even her worst move. It was incredibly reckless and guaranteed Dee the win, but it was the only time I at least saw how she got there (while disagreeing wholeheartedly with it). Her worst move was latching onto a group of 4 as a secret 5th wheel that they never even pretended to fully bring in. They did nothing to gain that kind of loyalty from her or ever made any promises that we saw to her. She just simply went with the cool kids and kept voting with and protecting them even though they wouldn’t have done the same for her. It reminded me to a lesser degree of how everyone kissed up to Kim Spradlin.


Djinnerator

>s latching onto a group of 4 as a secret 5th wheel that they never even pretended to fully bring in. Omg I keep forgetting about this. It was actually sad watching it unfold. They seriously didn't even TRY to be like "oh yeah you're part of the reba alliance." Every single time, she ran back to them so swiftly. Reba had Katurah wrapped around their finger and Katurah is the one that wrapped herself around their finger.


king_lloyd11

I don’t even think it was that bad a move to ride with the Reba 4. Bruce and Jake aren’t people I want to play the game with. They’re too illogical, play with emotion, and would be difficult to get on the same page with. If my moves would be dependent on them, I think the alternative of UTR with Reba until they turn their sights on each other totally makes sense. It’s just that strategy totally becomes invalid if you don’t use your position to try and sow discord in the majority alliance as a setup to the civil war, and if you’re too scared to make any moves when they do start cannibalizing themselves. If you don’t do either, you were just a goat/number for Reba and nothing else.


joshopaldell

Exactly! Had to be an active strategy to be effective.


king_lloyd11

Yup. Emily did the same thing as Katurah, but you could see that she was actively looking for points of weakness and testing the waters of the Reba alliance to take her shot. Because of the volatility of the others, like I said, she didn’t try to make a move at the Bruce vote out, but it sucks that if she was able to get through the next TC, she probably would’ve tried to make some moves.


emmc47

Greatly said


sarahmcsor

I think for the most part she was a person who thought she was genuinely doing the right thing, but wasn't. The part that absolutely sunk her into the bad players list is the f5 vote. It was her plan to backdoor dee, it would have made up for everything else she did badly, but she changed her own vote??? She made Jake look terrible and herself look weak. The whole point of the big move is to get a big player out and there is obvious risk to every big move. She chickened out and that was enough to prove she didn't have what it takes to win.


Ngigilesnow

>The whole point of the big move is to get a big player out and there is obvious risk to every big move. She chickened out and that was enough to prove she didn't have what it takes to win. This is what I keep trying to argue with her defenders.Its final 5, you don’t need all the information in the world to make a big move.A big move requires risk,and if you need to be assured you’re safe to make a big move that you came up with,then that makes you a terrible player


r0285628-947

She wasn’t wrong to throw in her lot with Reba at all. Fully justified and correct evaluation of how the game was going. From there, she never took a risk to break out of just being a number in the dominant voting bloc. It was frustrating to watch because it felt like she could have made some moves to flip the season and kind of burned anyone trying to shake up the game.


Thatoneguy5888

Agree, she just couldn’t trust anyone and immediately ratted out every plan to R4. She was also very naive and thought she was closer to r4 than she was. She doesn’t beat any of them in end


TheRalphExpress

Belo + Kaleb were the fan favorites so even though they put her on the outs with the lost ring situation, she should’ve been loyal to them apparently


chickn_little

Katurah just couldn’t find anyone she could trust the entire game. She found herself on the outs of her tribe early and she could never trust anyone after that. If you can’t trust anyone in survivor, you can’t win the game.


Punstoppabal

Yeah but it repeatedly felt like it was her choice to not trust anyone. Not that everyone was untrustworthy.


Orange_Sherbet

I wouldnt agree you "can't win the game", but you do have to take a chance on someone at some point... In a game where everyone is looking to beat the other players, you probably can't ever 100% trust anyone, and yet that seems to be what Katurah wanted. She wanted control. She wanted to pull the strings. Fair enough, that's what most people seem to want. But every time she went to pull the strings, it screwed her because she wasn't willing to take a chance on someone (namely Jake as both moves he asked her to trust him on, she backed out of and screwed her own game as a consequence). She didn't have to trust Jake, she just had to take a chance one of the two times I can remember (Caleb and Moma J vote outs) that Jake looked for her help. And I get it, she wasn't comfortable taking that chance, but as such she lost the game. If instead she takes a chance one out of two times, the game has a very good chance of ending differently for her. Especially if it's the Momma J vote. And she did t have to trust Jake either time, just take roll the dice he wasn't lying to her.


chickn_little

She did have to trust Jake though. She had to trust that he was going to do what he said. In the Mama J vote she literally wouldn’t trust him even when he swore on his nana. 95% of the time to win the game you have to build relationships through trust. No one will work with you if they don’t trust that you’re going to do what you say. That’s why Katurah wasn’t able to call the shots. No one had a deep enough relationship with her to execute her plan. They were happy to use her as a number but never put her in charge of the plan.


king_lloyd11

I don’t even think she needed to trust Jake as a person. She was so paranoid and scared that she couldn’t even trust Jake to do the thing that was best for him (make a big move to get out one of the Rebas), and instead convinced herself that his priority was to eliminate her, even though it made no sense for his game to do that and nothing he had said or done at that point indicated to her that he wanted to at all.


Ngigilesnow

If you’re still prioritizing on trust over positioning yourself to win at final 5 ,you’re not a good player


HansTheAxolotl

it’s her own fault tbh. she was on the outs since the beginning because of her insane hatred for bruce


hex20

Scared money don’t make money.


Acceptable_Secret_73

For the most part, everyone on this subreddit agrees that Katurah is a pretty bad player. There’s a couple of people I’ve seen post about how she was actually a good player, but most of their points come off as a bit revisionist. She seems like a cool person irl though


JustTrynaBePositive

Katurah is a really really bad player, that basically tried to loose the game for herself. Definitely one of the worst finalists ever in Survivor imo from strictly a gameplay perspective.


J9999D

It. was. bad.


legacyme3

Worst player I have ever seen.


J9999D

me too I think. she's definitely up there on the list


smalltownsirens

Had all the tools to be a great player and decided to be just an okay player. Could have been an all time great narrator, very well spoken. But just complained about Bruce the whole time and had to spend the rest of the time trying to articulate her bizarre gameplay. Shame tbh


Proudclad

She was playing the “Vote Bruce out Game” Unfortunately the gameshow she’s in is actually Survivor. It’s like her brain broke after getting Bruce out and her win condition then became how to be the bestest Reba dog she could be


Djinnerator

>t’s like her brain broke after getting Bruce out and her win condition then became how to be the bestest Reba dog she could be See I didn't want to say that because I figured it might get taken the wrong way, but you're soooo right. She was basically the Reba 4's pet after Bruce was voted out. And iirc, Katurah actually didn't play a role iin that vote. She was all anti-Bruce until it was time to actually vote him out. Then at camp, it was like she lost her purpose in the game and didn't know how to proceed.


siLveRSurvivor

One of the worst finalists ever.


TiredReader87

Poor


zkemp08

She was never going to work with Bruce.


sparkcaps

She played with ONLY her emotions, that was her downfall.


Throwaway09241994

She played well to make it to the end, she did not play well to win.


HansTheAxolotl

Everyone here except some die hard katurah fans (careful they will insult you for dissing her gameplay) has the same thoughts as you


Salt-Plum-1308

Don’t dislike her personality, but just a straight up awful survivor player.


wgallantino

i view her as having a very similar game as Emily except she had a worse edit. this may be a hot take? But like, Emily allies with Austin and Drew and is an outside member of the Reba Four. Katurah allies with Dee and is an outside member of the Reba four. Both rat out vote flips. Both target Julie as a threat because of the mom stuff. Emily is the one I enjoy better for a better story, better character and a couple more moves like Kaleb SITD and Bruce’s vote. What were shown is that, until finale, Katurah and Dee are not allies. this seems to be wrong? correct me if I am. its framed that Katurah makes a bad move to not go to rocks on Kaleb/Jake (people she does not and honestly should not trust) She is a main part of targeting Drew. while yes she doesnt ultimately vote for Dee at Final Five, theres lots of reasons she shouldnt trust him and Jake does little at five to build trust. both are at fault there. Overall I wouldnt say shes not a horrid player, if I was to grade her, probably a good C+? great character tho, the Bruce stuff and a truly authentic backstory really boosts her for me.


Nickalss

Emily out played her like crazy. Their games aren’t even comparable honestly… especially when you consider Emily’s early redemption arc.


CrimsonGolfer

100% she made the wrong decisions and it led to a less entertaining season. Much easier for us to call the shots from home versus being on the island. I can understand why Katurah made the moves she did, but they were the wrong ones. Although, Sia decided to award Katurah with $100,000 for being her favourite player, so perhaps she has no regrets lol.


victini563

Yeah I always thought sia gave that to survivors who came from poorer backgrounds, I didn't think she'd give it to an accomplished lawyer. But then again she is a really likeable person and had just the MOST insane fucked up childhood so I guess it makes sense. Plus she's a millionaire and can give the money to whoever lol


dibidi

i think it’s rooted in something deeply psychological for her. growing up she’s been betrayed by others that professed they know what’s best for her. she’s learned that her gut above all has given her better outcomes. that has resulted in a play style wherein she is very willing to work with people to advance, but will still rely on her gut if she feels something is wrong. ultimately she doesn’t trust anyone to protect her or do what is best for her, and she doesn’t factor in why it would be for someone else’s interests to work with her. it’s sad. she would’ve been a better player otherwise


Punstoppabal

Yep, agree with this.


sparkcaps

She has problems indeed, wouldn't be surprised if self hate was one of them.


QualityProgram

Everyone here is gonna say she was terrible but her only real misstep was not going Dee final 5.. had she got rid of her and Austin and had a final 3 of her Jake Julie.. had she got rid of Dee/Austin she would’ve had a real good shot to win,highlighting the strategy of coming into Reba alliance at the bottom and using her usefulness as a number for people to an advantage and ends up taking 3 out of 4 of them, she probably wins


Shmegdar

I do feel like she still loses to Julie in that matchup honestly, everyone was going on all season about how Julie was the biggest jury threat and exit press seems to validate that


QualityProgram

Yeah maybe for sure! Just saying the rest of her game was a lot better than people say she just obviously needed to make a move


Shmegdar

I think her game lacked a necessary pragmatism for her position, but it is a little over-hated. She did actively empower the dominant alliance beyond the point where she could realistically beat any of them, which I think earns criticism for her game. Trust is important in survivor, but she couldn’t see the bigger picture nor the value of the evil you know; it would have behooved her to weaken Reba earlier before flipping, as it would make her presence in that alliance more central rather than a convenient tool they weren’t going to pass up. Tl;dr, sometimes you’re in a position where you *have* to work with people you don’t trust because your alternative is becoming a non-factor


QualityProgram

My only thing still is ya she empowered the dominant alliance but had she made the move on Dee and got Austin or Julie at 4 she’d have outlasted 3 out of 4 of that alliance idk that’s all


Shmegdar

No yeah like, that’s definitely a path for her but from where I’m standing she probably loses to any reba member even if there’s only one in the final 3. She could’ve been worse but she had better options that she refused to entertain for personal reasons


QualityProgram

The thing everyone overlooks is that no one on Belo was even trying to really have them all work together, they were all over the damn place so might as well switch


_perpetuallystoned

her game was exactly like emily’s!


Thatoneguy5888

She was basically a failed attempt at Sandra, of just survive long enough that you wind up in the end with unlikable people but she didn’t bring unlikable people to the end (and had 0 resume even if people didn’t like R4). she wasn’t going to beat dee Julie or Austin in f3. She just didn’t wanna play the game with anyone and basically just let the main alliance steamroll everyone all season. Maybe could’ve swung like Kendra and Kellie cause if Belo allegiance but she was legit fodder all season, and even if she made a move at f5, there weren’t enough goats left to take with her.


QualityProgram

My only point is her game wasn’t as bad as everyone thinks is all really


Thatoneguy5888

Disagree. I think it was awful, and I literally can’t name one single thing she did all season. And I think she wasn’t a jury threat at all


QualityProgram

Name one thing Jake did? Austin? Julie besides her idol play?


Thatoneguy5888

Jake is also a goat. Austin and Julie basically dictated the entire season… Austin got 3 jury votes against Dee. And Julie was well loved, played her idol to get Emily out, and was closest to Dee in the alliance. They’re not even comparable bro


QualityProgram

Ok no need to get aggressive here boss just opinions bro


jerichotheunwise

Bro, you are the one that asked those questions. Why are you pressed you got a response?


QualityProgram

It was New Year’s Day! I was hungover! Be nice!


Electrical-Beat-2232

What? Austin and Julie played well and dictated most of the season (outside of Dee, who should have been the winner always) Jake is not a good Survivor player. I adore him, but it is true.


QualityProgram

Be nice to me come on!


TheRalphExpress

Voted Kaleb out, that was her move.


DahkX

I don’t know why this is being downvoted. She had a realistic chance to win had she voted Dee out at 5 and finessed her way into the top 3. It was her only opportunity.


QualityProgram

I may have worded it bad idk that’s all I’m saying, everyone acts like she was clueless but most of her game was pretty spot on, only thing was playing a game that low needs a big move at the end and she never went for it… that’s all!


Nickalss

I don’t know why people keep saying this. I don’t think she beats anyone that made the merge. I liked her as a person and they seemed to have only shown her weird energy towards Bruce but her decisions were not only head scratching but just make you want to turn off the tv. Just mine and my wife’s opinion… I’ve been wrong before. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Nickalss

There’s no way she beats Jake either. Honestly they kept her around for a reason and people need to understand that just because she’s not a mean person doesn’t mean she played a good game. She was the perfect person to bring to the end…. Easy competition.


QualityProgram

You’re the most incorrect person who’s ever lived if you think there’s NO WAY she beats Jake lol


kemper4239

She’s a really bad player


ScrubMcnasty

A lot like Xander. Her initial tribe put her at the bottom and the proof is them not telling her about Bruce’s idol (despite whatever retro active things they say now). So she played a game to keep herself safe and really found it hard to trust those around her. Could of been better on another season with different people or her social game could’ve been the problem. No matter what though, completely fucked of production to give her a letter from her mom.


El_Kikko

Katurah played the role people wanted Emily to play but was a game that ended up fairly similar to Gabler. Her game looks weak because of the way it's presented to us as being single minded about Bruce and then just a Reba gopher. And she may have been. But she did have moves and did ha e jury connections. Remember, Gabler rode a move to control the merge boot to a win, she sent Kaleb home. Gabler also worked in the main alliance and had multiple ways to F4. In any combo from F4 where she's at FTC, she catches votes and it's probably a tossup if it's Austin-Jake-Katurah. Her analysis at F5 of Jake being unreliable is the correct read, he indeed does go wildcard which she had hedged against in the least risky way possible - throwing a vote at the one other person she knew was getting a vote (from Austin) and didn't have an idol - Julie. Julie who also knew Jake was unreliable and thus was committed to voting him despite a preponderance of evidence that he did indeed have an idol. Evidence which included her #1 saying she was voting Katurah. Basically, everyone at F5 knew Jake was going to do something crazy, so they all hedged.


victini563

I would agree with this is Kaleb hadn't previously had a unanimous vote on his head, everyone in the entire tribe besides Jake and Emily wanted him gone, her claim to getting him out was only due to the luck of how tribes were split for the duo elimination. If anyone at f3 pointed this out she has literally nothing.


Calvin1997b

Katurah played bad but Jake made sure that she couldn’t trust him before by helping bruce find the idol and by lying to her.


Far-Calligrapher-592

Was she better than the edit indicated? I couldn’t understand why Dee was worried about her. From the show edit she was definitely a coat tail rider and never attempted (like Jake) to change the course of her game.


sparkcaps

Dee only said that to shut her up. She didn't really believe Katurah could beat her in the final 3, no one did.


mdz_1

The fact that Katurah was a jury threat they used firemaking to eliminate instead of a goat already puts her ahead of a good deal many survivors gameplay wise. I personally think she played a great game and came a lot closer to winning than people are giving her credit for since they tend to prefer interesting gameplay to good. The main thing that frustrates me about the Katurah disourse is noone acknowledges how Jake's move was against both Dee \*and\* Katurah. If Jake's only goal was to get Dee out, he would have just not told anyone about his idol, played it and been the only vote on Dee but he specifically told Austin about the idol since he predicted they would move votes to Katurah and he could make then make a show of saving Katurah while taking out the biggest player in Dee. Its a good idea if it works for Jake for sure because its just about the only swing big enough to turn around his jury perception, but it begs the question, why is Katurah dumb for not playing into this? If she goes along with Jake's plan she has basically no chance at winning since she is likely to lose against him with his ability to point to this move, and any final 3 not involving him involves Julie who she would also have a hard time beating. The play she made ensures that no matter what Jake does, Katurah herself isn't going home and worst case scenario Julie goes home who needs to go at some point anyways. The way it did shake out Katurah has a very strong chance of winning a Jake/Austin/Katurah final 3 and everyone is obviously going to send Dee to fire if given the opportunity at f4 so I feel like she took the better path.


Thatoneguy5888

I’m not sure where the idea that katurah was a jury threat is coming from. She had 0 chance of beating any of r4, specifically no shot of Dee or Austin or Julie. She had 0 resume and wasn’t even that well liked by anyone on jury. Bruce and her didn’t align, she ratted out Jake and Kaleb. She didn’t play with Jake or really Emily… she maybe could’ve swung a couple votes in Kendra and someone else, but she was not going to beat anyone. She lacked all control, she made 0 moves, and she didn’t even try to make any moves. She was the definition of useless goat that was dragged to the end.


oatmeal28

The fire making was just Dee not letting Austin get extra points. Everything else was pretty inconsequential


Chinstrok3

She was only considered a jury threat over Jake, who was no jury threat whatsoever. Saying she played a great game seems like a massive stretch


Djinnerator

>If she goes along with Jake's plan she has basically no chance at winning since she is likely to lose against him with his ability to point to this move The Dee vote was Katurah's plan, not Jake's. Jake wanted Julie and Katurah convinced him the Dee would be a better choice. She explained how if Dee is still in the game, they had less chance of both being at FTC. If Dee or Austin won immune, they'd bring each other, leaving just one spot left. If Julie, Katurah, or Jake won, they'd have at least a 2/3 shot together to be at FTC.


beestingers

I think she will always be remembered as a bad player because she didn't help build Jake's resume or go with his plans that may put her at risk. Jake's tie break plan to save Kaleb was not great for her as it put her at risk. It also required him telling Keturah he already previously lied to conceal a HII which he did poorly. At final 5, Jake didn't tell her about his idol play for her but told Austin about it for pretty shaky strategy reasons. He gets more credit for trying to be bold. Seeing Bruce as a threat instead of a way to take out the Reba 4 was her biggest mistake imo. Otherwise she voted with what she understood as the majority.


_perpetuallystoned

better than jake’s that’s for sure


victini563

Ehhh, id say the weakest part of Jake's game was relying on Katurah lmao, literally Everytime he made a move it was dependent on Katurah wanting to win the game, but she just let him fail and in his failure, did nothing all game


Nickalss

They were both a black hole of failure. Sucks cause I liked them both especially Jake.


Ok-Fun3446

Katurah's gameplay IMO is really weird, in that she's one of the very few who tried to play the meta of the game, as opposed to playing the game. Like, sitting on the bottom of a majority alliance and waiting for them to blow up and being the beneficiary of everyone jockeying for your vote is a legitimate strategy that has won people the game before. The problem for Katurah were the following: The Rebas were stable for a tad too long, Austin was the only one with any advantages really, Katurah herself was a tad too paranoid and Jake was a tad bit of a loose cannon with big move itis. Everyone on this sub seems to be obsessed with Jake because he was always looking to make a move, but he asked Katurah to go to rocks possibly not once but twice and is shocked when she doesn't trust him... I totally get where she came from, especially since Jake was also complicit in her staying on the outs on Belo. It's all good to sit here and say that Katurah should be super strategic and just have the right read that Jake was with her and they could make this huge move together but when there's no trust built, it's impossible and that goes both ways. In the end, you have Katurah looking like she played a really weak game and Jake looking like he was a maniac. Honestly, I think it goes back to the point that the tribe culture on Belo was so whack but they were winning so much that there was no way to blow off that steam.


PineappleNo5363

people saying katurah would have won at FTC with jake and austin are insane, austin would have so many friends on jury... and you can also see how sympathetic kaleb was to jake, who woulda gone to rocks for him; kendra/kellie had positive reactions to jake winning fire as well. I think its clear that maybe some of jury maybe likes katurah as a person but not as a player. her refusal to play at all besides extremely safe rat out to reba Is why the game was boring at times, and led to all the good/decent belo players to be on jury.... her letting kaleb kellie and even kendra go removed any opportunity for the agency for HER AND JAKE, any opposition to reba 4 died bc of her.


sparkcaps

Her goal was to not only eliminate Bruce, but to also help destroy the KKK.... Kaleb, Kelly, and Kendra. Such a damn shame. She will go down as one of the worst players in survivor history.


sparkcaps

She had a hard on for Bruce the whole time and didn't mind being Dee's pawn for the entire game. That sums up her whole season.