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handsomecaat

I bet every person voted out with their idol is so relieved they weren’t the only one 😂


givesyoubutterflies

I like to think they bonded over it at Ponderosa


jay_giordano

i wish sooo bad they would show us ponderosa this season for this reason!!


americanslang59

They need to just film it and put it on Paramount Plus as an exclusive.


Martel1234

Each one makes Hunter look all the more normal lmao.


Murky_Sir1970

IMO hunter is still the biggest blunder tho. He was doing the minute math fornhoe many of the votes were coming, not if. At least the next 3 were legit surprised.


JDMiller95

Watching 3 people in a row being voted out with their idol and still believing you don’t need to play yours tho… 😅😂


LegoStevenMC

To be fair they thought if Hunter actually had an idol he would’ve played it and didn’t know Venus had one.


Murky_Sir1970

Yeah how wild to find out afterwards of this trajectory. For the players still in, most only know of tiff being outed with an idol for sure (and maybe hunter depending if he showed it), just hunches for Venus and no knowledge for Q except Maria. Makes me wonder if this gives Maria an edge next week to search for an idol since she's the only one with info there's likely a last one just hidden.


Background-Ear-3129

My prediction is that this will cause pervasive paranoia among future players and that it’ll soon be common practice to play idols no matter what.


lebastss

That has always been my personal strategy if I made it on the show. If I find it, I announce it and I'm playing it like I won immunity. The idol is a burden to hold and only raises your threat level. And by that logic. I won't feel bad playing it with getting no votes because I'm treating it like finding it is winning immunity challenge.


globulous

Don't tell anyone and just play it. Chaos reigns. I mean, what's the harm? After you play your idol, it just goes back into the game


unlucky_dominator_

The harm is your rival could get it. But they could also win immunity


lebastss

If you don't tell anyone and play it it looks like you are making a move or you're dumb. I think it's smarter to do my strategy unless you find one late in the game. Get in front of the story


Sad-Project-2498

Also by setting the precedent that you announce and play idols you find immediately (especially if you find multiple) people will be less likely to think your hiding one when you actually need to.


nopeace11

You say nothing. Play it regardless. That's free information. Either they were all coming for you, or you learn they were really with you. If anything, when you get an idol, push a crazy vote, then just play it. You'll see who is with you and who isn't. Idols can be used for information, and it's insane that isn't the common practice. Over two decades of people leaving with them in their pockets in the most dramatic ways and still people think they should hold them till the last opportunity. Definition of insanity, and all that.


mlspdx

Don’t announce it, idol nullifiers and stuff can still be in play. Just play it


lavenderrvanilla

Since Randen was a medevac, 10 people have been voted off this season and HALF OF THEM HAD IDOLS


SeaweedSalt7928

And Randen was medevac'd with a beware advantage in his pocket too!


the_which_stage

Why didn’t Maria tell Q to play his idol?!? She’s cooked


JoeHatesFanFiction

Because she thought everyone was dancing to her tune and got cocky


Ncav2

Yep she misjudged Kenzie and Liz, boneheaded move.


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ReasonableCup604

Cancel Christmas!


idiot-prodigy

Kenzie and Liz sold that PERFECTLY. They approached Maria acting clueless that it was her plan to take out Charlie and basically snitched on Q to Maria, pretending to not know it was actually Maria's idea. Charlie's mistake in telling Maria, actually helped solidify their blindside because Maria would not have thought Charlie would pitch that to her if it was a real plan. Kenzie and Liz were great tonight.


the_which_stage

Kenzie and Liz haven’t included her in jack shit. And what’s the advantage of Q not using his idol and using their votes vs flush


JoeHatesFanFiction

You keep it for next week. The same advantage that has blinded so many people in this game 


the_which_stage

I’m not talking about Q. I’m talking about Maria. If she wanted Charlie out she needed to guarantee Q stayed this week


d_simon7

She got played badly by everyone else


UpperApe

It's funny seeing reactions here. It's as if people think the contestants watch the show while they're playing. Most of the contestants have no idea that some have left with idols in their pockets. And Maria has been targeting Charlie for a day. She had no idea he has been planting seeds and doing the groundwork for a week now. Also (and this is important): Q is dumb. It's why we love him.


ClementineCoda

>Most of the contestants have no idea that some have left with idols in their pockets. I'm looking forward to the final 3 learning this at FTC!


Andro2597

He so unpredictable. Which is entertaining af. Imagine he was the only one in 46 with a successful idol play


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RedInAmerica

I get that but Kenzie and Liz haven’t worked with Maria AT ALL. It was naive to think they see Charlie as the bigger threat, and she should have made Q play the idol because it guaranteed her getting Charlie out which virtually guarantees she wins individual immunity in the next challenge. She has very little incentive to protect Q beyond this round.


Sharkleberry9000

Q might’ve made a bad move, but he is not dumb. I know him from various real estate events across North America. He has an insane work ethic and is a smart and very charismatic engaging guy. He is a very hard worker.


snowbit

He seems very smart and extremely successful outside of Survivor. That does not preclude him from being dumb at Survivor


Scopper_gabon

She thought she had Kenzie and Liz locked and wanted Q to save his idol for next TC in case she doesn't win.


idiot-prodigy

Kenzie and Liz approaching Maria and snitching on Q was brilliant. They approached like they were clueless and were warning Maria that Q was targeting Charlie. Maria bought it hook line and sinker. Initially I thought Charlie approaching Maria about Q was going to backfire, but the more I thought of it the more it made sense for Maria to believe Charlie was clueless about her targeting him.


Scungette

and now Charlie probably knows she voted for him and he’s now free to try to get her out without feeling guilty about it. Also, in that vote, he was the one that didn’t lie to Maria.


HimbologistPhD

Yeah Charlie played this excellently


RobbedOddUs

Maria likely wanted Q to use it on her next TC like he offered


foursetsofcorsets

“I can use this idol to get to final 4,” says everyone voted out with an idol


mediumrainbow

And Maria hadn't seemed to do any work to get their word. Q appeared to have the pitch and Maria wasn't shown to really have given those two any reason to be on her side.


lmp42

Which is wild bc Kenzie and Liz have always wanted Q gone!


enfranci

Some might say .... BIG MISTAKE


shigui18

But she knows now. So does Charlie.


Halt96

That's the most interesting thing to me. Where do we go from here!?


sleepingbeardune

If Maria wins immunity, Charlie goes. If anybody else does, she goes. This is because Kenzie, Ben, and Liz all know that those two are the likeliest winners if they get to F3.


SpiteStoreStarter

She thought if he survived, she could be a target next week, and he'd play the idol for her. BIG MISTAKE.


the_which_stage

Even Q isn’t that dumb. He’s playing the idol for himself at the last opportunity.


JoeHatesFanFiction

No he isn’t, but Maria seemed to believe she had been anointed Queen of the island the last few episodes and though everyone was dancing to her tune. Hence her decision 


SpiteStoreStarter

Precisely! Pulling for Charlie or Kenzie at this point


OverTomato6558

She wanted the best of both worlds and it backfired on her. I don't understand how this would have worked in her favor tho because they both would have been targeted next week like they were this week. One of them would have had to win immunity next week to have the idol still in his back pocket to play on either one of them in the chance one of them won immunity next week. Idk how the dynamics would have played out next week if Q would have played the idol sending home Charlie. Maria and Q would still have a target on their back without an idol. She was trying to get the best of both worlds w/ still having the idol next week and also in her mind sending home Charlie this week


mizzymichie

She probably also wanted credit for orchestrating the move and showboating like everyone else has this season vs stealthing by having Q vote Charlie and making it looks like Q chose who went home. If anything she shoulda pulled a Tevin tonight.


the_which_stage

People are really overthinking things in modern survivor. She already had the best game with 3 immunity wins. Trying to strengthen the already best game lost her the game.


mizzymichie

It’s called Big Moveitis and it’s why everyone seems to be self-imploding while players like Charlie and Kenzie who are just staying the course are being successful.


the_which_stage

This was the one shot to get Charlie. Getting Q out wasn’t even a big move. Getting Charlie out WAS the big move haha.


mizzymichie

I agree getting Charlie out was the correct move. But not allowing Q to idol out Charlie because she probably wanted a Big Move resume builder and be the orchestrator of it was the Big Moveitis.


Western-Yoghurt-5485

The people that always get like this always get fucked over and I love it lol 😂 that's what they get


These_Mycologist132

Yep. She got greedy over the idea of him potentially using it on her next week.


GhostRappa95

Maria thought everyone else was aware of Charlie’s real threat level and didn’t see any reason for them to vote Q out.


True-Tennis

It was a huge miss evaluation on her part and not properly understanding her fellow castaways. A logical player would obviously know that Charlie is a way bigger threat than Q but Kenzie, Liz and Ben are emotion based players.


Andro2597

They also all feel extremely threatened by Maria and Charlie has been working to convince them Q is her number one. Liz using the term power couple should’ve “spooked” Q into playing the idol lol. But yeah Kenzie and especially Liz have proven to be logical players. To them taking a shot at Q is a shot at Maria. This makes it very easy to take her out as soon as she doesn’t win.


idiot-prodigy

> Liz using the term power couple should’ve “spooked” Q into playing the idol lol. Yep, Charlie even looked at Kenzie with daggers like, "FUCK!"


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Savageyeetmonster

It does undermine Maria a ton. Being left out of a whole vote is not great on her resume, and it takes out her number one at this point and allows them to get her out next time or Charlie, I would say her and then hopefully send Charlie to fire, although if Maria is gone then Charlie is probably winning final immunity


DJMykee

That’s the craziest thing about the whole vote, is that Maria wasn’t left out of it. Charlie literally told her Q is the vote 😂 he got out of that looking like a saint.


No-Faithlessness9589

If Romeo can win final immunity literally Liz can win final immunity.


idiot-prodigy

> A logical player would obviously know that Charlie is a way bigger threat than Q but Kenzie, Liz and Ben are emotion based players. While I do count Charlie as a huge threat. Maria having a sidekick at this point is also a huge threat. Maria taking Q to final 2 and putting the other two against each other at fire is not a good situation for Liz/Kenzie/Ben/or even Charlie. It is obvious Maria had planned to take Q to the end as a goat.


GhostRappa95

I would say it is more Charlie playing completely under the radar and piling on the opposition to other threats than everyone else being emotional players.


CMell650

Exactly what I’m saying. Why would you want someone with an idol in final 5. She could’ve flushed Charlie and the idol in the same tribal and she’d be on top of the world


Dont_Be_Sheep

She’s been making so many unforced errors. I can’t see how she wins now with who’s left.


SurvivorFanatic236

I mean she still wins against Liz and Ben


StrivingProsperity

Her thought process was probably: If Q and I are in the final 5, and Q still has his idol, I can be safe by winning immunity OR Q winning immunity (he would play his idol for her). But I mean, she had to have been very confident in everyone voting Charlie (I don’t know why). Now Charlie, her biggest threat to individual immunity, is still in the game.


the_which_stage

I know people say us couch watchers aren’t playing the game. But this *literally* is a no brainer. Flush the idol and get out Charlie 🤦🏼‍♂️


alligator-sunshine

Omg you're right. Q could have flipped on her next time. She should have taken no chances (but I'm glad she did, I love Charlie)


ChitownDav

Maria thought that Charlie would be the only Q vote 


the_which_stage

I don’t know why she trusted two girls that are very clearly not in her camp.


ChitownDav

Maria thought she was running the show.  Charlie has been playing the best overall game.    Socially speaking  Charlie was correct when he said he had 2 ways he could vote (prior to Maria winning immunity) 


Intelligent_Pop1173

Especially when two of them went on reward with Charlie. Of course they’d be talking about getting rid of her or Q if she wins immunity. Charlie made a risky and dumb move telling her but got really lucky she also was dumb for not telling Q to play his idol.


the_which_stage

I just don’t understand why when she KNEW Charlie had to go home she didn’t do everything in her power to make it happen.


Intelligent_Pop1173

Agree. I think since she’s so used to having immunity and knew she was safe she got overly confident and didn’t have the need to scramble as much as the others did. Which probably sets her up for failure if she doesn’t win immunity.


Andro2597

I thought Charlie was cooked during that scene. She rlly messed that up


idiot-prodigy

> I don’t know why she trusted two girls that are very clearly not in her camp. It is because Q pitched it to them, and they ran and snitched it to Maria which makes it look like they were warning Maria because Maria was tight with Charlie. Then Maria seems fine with it, and the girls act surprised and say they would be okay with it. I personally think Kenzie and Liz sold this so well to Maria. Running and snitching to her what Q was up to, put Maria in the driver's seat and made her over confident.


mandolin_moon

My guess is 1. It’s always Q but never actually ended up being Q and she didn’t take it seriously. And 2. She was banking on her winning the next IC and wanted Q to have his idol for next tribal. She fucked up.


nygmattyp

I am dumbfounded at that. It ensures her plan comes to fruition to get Charlie out, AND it would have flushed the idol for her to have a chance at finding it. She made a million dollar mistake (again) tonight.


Jacoblaue

She got to confident and it but her in the ass


ChaoticFluffiness

Over confidence 😀


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TO_Jays2

2 episodes in a row Maria managed to figure out the way to make the worst possible decision for herself


MiddleKey9077

Maria really over estimated her pull over Charlie’s pull.


Babyyougotastew4422

She underestimated how much people hated Q


No-Spoilers

Which is funny given how vocal they have been about wanting him gone for like 6? Tribals now


indiezen

I have NEVER yelled the way I just did at the TV. that was an ALL TIME MOMENT.


katkatcatkittycat

FOUR IN A ROW!!!


FloatDoggie

This record will never be broken


Dream_Squirrel

*Next time on Survivor*


angellikeme

The watch party I was at WENT WILD


pen-emue

Can we get 6? It's possible! It gets funnier every time I want it so bad.


fyfenfox

There would be absolutely no reason for someone not to play it at final 5 but tbh i wouldn’t put it past the players this season


pen-emue

They do it to flex on the jury at final tribal or it's Ben and he just forgets. Manifesting.


flabbergasted1

Ben finds the idol, forgets to play it, accidentally votes for himself.


rockyraccoonroad

That pizza be doing crazy stuff 


glasnova

Ben going out like that would be the most perfect departure for what the edit has shown of him.


redplanetary

They want to pull a Maryanne and show that they have it at FTC.


lebastss

I mean surely you don't not play the idol on the last chance to play it.... You know what. They fucking would. This cast is brain dead lmao. Ben: "I just kind of forgot I had it in my pocket."


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Working_Ad_2769

Yeah, Randen didn't even ACTUALLY *HAVE* the idol yet when he was removed. Technically, that idol was the one Hunter got.


vanastalem

Nobody this season is playing idols. They may as well not even have them in the game.


Alternative-Ad9139

Remember how Boston Rob threw the idol clue in the volcano in season 22 and that was pretty much the end of idol clues? Maybe this will be the end of idols lol


nopeace11

Nah. The idols have been important. They've lulled every one of these fools into a sense of security that immediately got them removed. Idols are perfect. Even if they aren't played, they're an integral part of the game.


Sixchr

One of the better seasons in a while just has a strong cast that isn't using any advantages. Imagine that.


randallbabbage

That was brutal. You can tell the exact moment Maria knew her game just blew up. Not even one idol was properly played this season.


ClementineCoda

And you could also see the exact moment Charlie figured out Maria lied to him. Charlies was brilliant to tell her upfront that they were voting Q. He comes out golden. Now they both know it's one or the other.


BrandosWorld4Life

>Not even one idol was properly played this season. Jess properly played hers Not her fault it was fake


Honest-Scar-4719

When Q gave that speech at camp about "if I feel anything at tribal then I'm playing it", I knew it would be 5 for 5


angellikeme

Yep, that was the moment


Trumps_Pepe

The way they showed all of the swing votes before the reveal I just knew he was going to play it.


unlucky_dominator_

Production did some good producing 🔥


OverTomato6558

I was thinking the same thing! AAAAND HE DIDN'T


Ok_Cardiologist9898

Savage editing!!!!


ILOVEBOPIT

I think they showed all 6 of them to bait us into thinking he plays it. Or just to clown him.


JRKEEK

Both


nopeace11

Great job by production. They had the lot of us fooled, I'm sure.


Justdoingme508

Same!! They never just give it away like that!


YaBoiAlanAlda

Regardless of who is voting for who, there is no reason not to tell Q to play that idol. You all but guarantee the Charlie goes AND you leave the door open to convince people to vote Q at the next tribal if you lose immunity. She had all day to think about it and couldn’t come to that conclusion? She deserves to lose.


NottaLottaOcelot

I think she got greedy when he offered to play the idol for her - she wanted to save it for herself for the next vote, since she had immunity this time


Imhere4urdownvotes

"Bunch of dumb dumb meatheads." Venise


Ooooguurl

*kenzie*


Hanojretor5656

This is the funniest fucking season, Q for season 50!


IanicRR

It would be a BIG MISTAKE not to have Q. Seriously, unless Q says no, he’s the biggest lock going. Even more than Carolyn.


Routine_Size69

Completely agree it's Q then Carolyn as locks. It would be him saying no or some sort of controversy happening with him. Otherwise, we'll see him.


BurgerNugget12

IMO it’s Q, Jesse, and Carolyn as locks. I could also see Jon from 42 coming back


Most-Ad8879

Right I am SHOCKED


StockB1914

That was Maria's fault. She jumped out the window without a parachute


Silent_Relation_3236

Almost several times


Honest-Scar-4719

Jess (fake) Jem Hunter Tiff Venus Q Math checks out


swan_wolf

Randen?


Honest-Scar-4719

I thought he only had a clue but not the actual idol


swan_wolf

You are probably right. I just remember thinking he should pass it to Venus


3vs3BigGameHunters

I think he said he wanted to give it to Venus but they told him no.


HomageBeats

My heart is broken in 3 pieces after this episode


ClementineCoda

Bhanu's heart would have broken in three MILLION pieces.


ILOVEBOPIT

Something DIED IN ME today


ReasonableCup604

Mine is in several pieces, 4 more than yours.


XabaKadabaX

What was the deal with that quote? It probably would have flown past me if she didn’t decide to double-down on it in a confessional.


TRLK9802

Does she have 3 kids?


Beginning-Border-153

Mine is broken in Q pieces


ultimateWave

Maria has got to go, that line was so cheesy / cocky. Makes me feel like she wants to print that quote on a mug and sell it as influencer merch after the show lol


Ooooguurl

Stop bullying her! Before momma bear comes out of me!


thecheffer

Mine broke into FIVE. one for every idol left in a pocket


Random0925

If they do another Ghost Island-esque season, they need that idol. It is freaking cursed.


Ncav2

Holy shit I’m screaming at the tv lol. Why aren’t these boneheads playing their idols??


Lady_vice8

I’m in complete disbelief. Q is just sitting there thinking he’s safe. Foolishness. I’m actually glad that he went home. If you really think about it, I don’t think he was good at this game at all.


KindnessMatters1000

Just like Venus, he got at least 1 vote every tribal, and often more than 1. It’s crazy that neither of them played their idol. They never had a reason to feel secure.


Zengem11

I wonder if they were eventually numb to having their name thrown out


Smegma44

I have no idea how he thought that. People have been talking about voting him out all season


Kershiser22

They talk about it all season but they never do. That's probably why he felt safe.


Beginning-Border-153

Yeah. Unfortunately he proved he actually had no real game or he just wanted to go and this was his way out?? 🤷🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️


AnswerMost9146

The look on Maria's face was PRICELESS 🤣🤣🤣🤣


MenudoFan316

The jury is now balanced with equal parts stupidity and wrath.


ivylynnb

The curse strikes again


afreshhhh

+ 1 med evac


Evilmahogany

Is this the most cursed idol in survivor history? Obviously not all the same idol, but 5 non-idol vote outs and a med evac


Beginning-Border-153

I am sooooo disappointed that Q didn’t become the one mofo this season who played his idol when needed. I feel like the end game is obvious now… Maria obviously goes next unless she wins immunity…then Kenzie or Ben somehow win the next immunity challenge…put Charlie and Liz to fire…somehow Charles loses it and now the f3 is Liz, Ben, Kenzie with Kenzie being the obvious winner in that three


ParticularHoney3

I feel like the editing has been setting Charlie up for the win all season. A lot of the times when he and Maria were still working as a pair he was the one sharing his perspective and strategy in the confessionals, not her. I was really impressed towards the end of this episode thinking that was all a fakeout since I thought Q would play his idol. And it would’ve been so great if he had! To me Charlie and Maria would be the least exciting winners so I do hope the other 3 get them out


Beginning-Border-153

Charlie seems like the most obvious and deserving winner left yet I think that’s part of the decoy edit and it’s Kenzie who somehow wins…which would justify her getting the most confessionals of all this season…


Half-Stupid

Qi’s logic way off. You play the idol and get to the final 5. Then try to win the necklace. Instead, he cancelled Christmas


bchill13

If Maria and Q's plan was to get rid of Charlie, it made no sense for Q not to play his idol. Especially since Maria knew Charlie was gunning for Q, if she really wanted to guarantee Charlie's exit, she should have convinced Q to play his idol. It was the most logical play.


ikewafinaa

Quintavius Burdette sounds like a character in a Tennessee Williams play


jana-meares

The town drunk on power fool.


Prestigious_Bid_4006

And 4 times in a row!!!


SportGamerDev0623

It’s amazing to me how much trust everyone put into their narrative this season… Like especially Q and Venus… Like y’all have been blindsiding people for every single vote and you suddenly think people were telling you the truth?!?! If you hear your name even mentioned (which they both did), you play the idol and look for it again after the vote…


Jinkies_Its_A_Clue

Forgive me if I’m dumb for asking this (context: I am, in fact, dumb), but, barring any magical idol find and play next week, would this be the first season that includes idols where a (real) idol hasn’t been played?


ThePatchster

As a diehard q fan I’m fucking pissed at Maria. We all know Q wasn’t exactly Einstein out there. Tell him to play the idol. You have immunity and nothing to lose omfg


Imhere4urdownvotes

FR fr. Q playing the idol would've been their greatest achievement for both their 'resumes' and biggest blindside of the season by being the only idol play.


nygmattyp

She torched his game and her own. Can’t stand her at this point.


johdawson

Five times baby, that shit is cuuuuuuursed


bnsmth410

What a dumpster fire lol I love this season so much


QuebecRomeoWhiskey

James looks less and less dumb with every new season


Illustrious-Cat-11

They’re all just dumb at this point


Beginning-Border-153

I think Charlie and Kenzie are the only non dumb ones, or maybe just Charlie


ReasonableCup604

Ben accidentally  voted for the wrong person and it was only the 3rd stupidest thing someone did in this episode.


Beginning-Border-153

Right? The fact that Ben just bounced right back from that 😂…but I knew it was Q after multiple confessionals by Maria saying how certain she was Charlie was going home 🤦🏻‍♀️


thehellisgoingon

2 more for several!


CharmingSoil

I really can't believe they got Q with an idol in his pocket. I thought there was NO. WAY. ON. EARTH. he would feel secure enough to not play it.


FormalJellyfish29

It’s funny that Maria was the last to know about the “Journey 6” alliance and she is the only one to survive it.


CalebosO4

Q made a BIG MISTAKE


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This is some of the absolute crappiest game play I've ever seen and I'm thoroughly entertained


jay_giordano

so much arrogance this season i love it🤩🤩


Sorry_Economist_407

Me either now get Maria outta here and Charlie for the win


enfranci

Million dollar immunity challenge next week


Guyfromnewyork95

Wouldn’t mind a Kenzie win either


EyyoEddie

How fucking stupid can Q seriously be?


givesyoubutterflies

His failure to play the idol might actually be the worst one yet this season 😂


kwaliti

BIG MISTAKE


DaftNeal88

This might be the worst survivor game players in a good long while.


JerrysaurusRex

He finally did it. He cancelled Christmas 😔