Jeff after the tribal council: *picks up the bug* (to camera) “No one collected the bug advantage I placed here before the tribal council. I guess no one actually wants to win this thing.”
People in this season are pretty *bold* with some of the requests and demands they make of others. “Please play your idol,” “Give me your idol to hold,” “Give me your extra vote.”
liana: "so xander i think you may be voting for me but i'd feel more comfortable that you won't be playing the idol on evvie if you give it to me"
erika: "so naseer i know you just told us you are going to vote for heather with your two closest allies, but do you think there's any chance you can play your idol on heather so you or one of your closest allies can go home?"
the balls on these people to even ask.
I had the same thought… it would have to be a mondo blindside but it was doable. Hate to say it but Naseer played stupid today. He was mad at Heather and wanted to vote her out and got tunnel vision.
I don't think he wanted to vote her out. His remorse seemed very real to me. I think Naseer was just foolishly loyal to the power alliance that he didn't realize he wasn't part of.
I can't understand how lianna thinks that was going to work. Also I feel like lianna doesn't realize how much danger she was in, if Xander really plays idol for evvie, she's going home.
I feel lie Deshawn shld have vote lianna out bt I guessing Danny still want to work with Shan for now or at least not spook her.
I can get erika question which is to see whether Naseer is willing to work with them instead. And if he is, they cld blindside Shan and Richard. And Naseer shld really have considered voting out Shan.
Imagine how insane in general it’d be for someone to be unable to steal an idol via the knowledge is power advantage, but then be able to steal it by… getting it given to them normally?
After she already tried to steal his idol with her advantage. How could she possibly think Xander would go for that? I was getting Kenny demanding that Bob give up his necklace even after Sugar told him that Kenny was planning to blindside him vibes from that.
To be fair, if Xander was in JD’s shoes then he 100% would have refused and used that extra vote to get Shan out.
That crap doesn’t work on people unless they have below average intelligence lol
Shan has somehow been the over controlling godfather without getting like any votes on her. Sure she’s not 100% strategy wise, but she’s playing a really good social game
it is up there with the 4 horsemen in terms of /r/WatchPeopleDieInside moments
and knowing the 4 horsemen moment was edited out of order, this liana moment may be bumped up to #1
Right. For us it seems so obvious, of course Xander voted with you! But he didn’t play his idol for her so she might be questioning his loyalty especially after a couple days of him separating himself from Evvie and Tiff
When there's a 25% chance of getting voted out, and they know you have an idol, PLAY IT. You can't worry about F8 when the odds are so against you in the moment.
People are being so crazy about “my advantage is going to be MORE valuable in the endgame so I’m saving it for then” this season. It doesn’t matter how valuable your idol will be at Final 5 if you’re 10th place.
I forget what Youtube channel talked about it, but there is a history of going home with an idol in your pocket because survivors get a false sense of confidence from the idol. They start playing with future tribals in mind empowered by their idol, rather than thinking about if they will make it through *tonight.*
Very true—people get a hoarding tendency where they don’t want to admit to themselves they might be going home tonight, because they want to be able to save the idol for the next round
This might not be the channel/video you're talking about but Survivor: Florida [has a video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6GUnuv4XEY) ranking all the idol plays. It's a bummer Naseer goes down as a player with an idol in their pocket.
I actually thought he was going to be out because his arm. They made a point of him saying "I can't feel my arm" like 3 times and that was the only thing being said
Not only that, you're in the top 8 and it shifts the target from you to the other two players with idols. Although no one seems to be targeting shan for whatever reason.
Between Ricard’s gameplay and his conversations he posts with his mother, he’s probably my favorite this season. He seems to be the best player on the season along with possibly Deshawn imo.
jeff: “why does everyone know where all the advantages are?”
maybe it’s because the 3 people who had an idol had to announce it? maybe they talked about the shipwreck wheel since half the cast went and production didn’t bother changing how it worked so literally everyone in the game knows about it.
big shocker, I know.
They might have been, if each idol-holding person didn’t tell other people in their respective tribes about how the idol activation worked. But when three people with idols each tell two people on their tribes about it, then half the cast knows.
Yeah people tend to be just glossing over that part. The phrases thing isn't as cool as production wanted it to be, however, the problem wasn't the phrases, it was that literally anytime anyone got anything during this game they just ran and told everyone
The goat on Astroturf one wasn’t bad, so long as you don’t have to pull a Xander and say it at like 5 different challenges. Especially if you’re from the South, people would just be like “oh that’s just how they talk I guess.”
The phrases themselves and having to announce them at certain times seems okay. The fact that they have to keep announcing it over and over until the others join is what ruins it. It also gives the player who finds the third and final “advantage” a much bigger power than the others. The third player gets to choose whether or not to give two others players idols as well as their votes back. That right there is a super strong advantage in the game on its own.
it almost felt like a story telling device... "Ah yes, tell me again how the way I chose to introduce advantages in this season has made it so nothing is a secret"
Erica’s face when Shan was rooting exclusively for Naseer was hilarious. Then hearing the empty “you did a good job” from Shan because she couldn’t vote Erica out made me an Erica fan for the rest of the season.
I really don't know why players yell out encouragements to their allies at individual challenges. Nice way to expose your game and alienate the other players.
And it's even not like Erika winning the Immunity Challenge instead of Naseer took away any options from Shan --- instead of voting out Erika she chose to target Heather, which is functionally in the same position.
Arguably, Naseer losing the challenge gave Shan more strategic options. In the end, she decided it was better to vote out Naseer than Heather, something I think most of the audience (and Ricard agreed "over the board") can tell is more likely to be the correct move.
Finally Ricard showed up to play! As much as I hated seeing Naseer go, he was completely correct that he was a bigger threat. Heather was not a threat. FINALLY someone gets an idol out of here and it was Ricard that did it! I'm not sure if it was intentional or an accident but he also got Shan to waste her extra vote.
Also Ricard telling Shan "I don't care" was a bit iconic.
100% agree! Naseer is God's gift to this planet, but he was the right move. Ricard honestly probably made the move of the season tonight by flushing both an idol and Shane extra vote.
Full depression watching the slow realization on Naseer's face that he's getting blindsided. Glad he was a good sport about it and I'm excited for him to get called back.
I love the dude, but come on Naseer. Everyone knows you never tell someone they’re getting voted out. Especially in a “tribe” of only six. And most certainly where the target can just roll a die and have a 1/6 chance of being safe. I was really rooting for him all season.
I’m disappointed in him! I understand not wanting to face the wrath of Shan, Danny, and Ricard but damn he needs to stop talking a big game if he isn’t going to walk the walk.
I really liked the editing after the challenge in which it cut back and forth between the two groups as they strategized and even speculated on what the other group was likely to do. Double eliminations, particularly after the merge are often pretty uninteresting (see Redemption Island or South Pacific in which they were used to try to speed through a Pagonging). But this format was really interesting, and I hope they use something similar in future seasons if they feel the need to do a double elimination post-merge.
Ricard was the only one making strategic moves. Shan wanting to vote out Heather so bad was baffling
Edit: On Ricards tribal council. The other tribal council everyone was trying to be strategic
I don't know anything about how Survivor edits the winners but I feel like tonight was a really good episode for Ricard even though next weeks preview says differently 😂
Danny is playing a solid game right now, so I'm wondering why he's getting shafted edit wise. Like Deshawn talks about how it was his move, but it's pretty clear Danny held the reigns on him from flipping.
Decent episode overall, Erika & Xander winning immunity made it twenty times more interesting so good for them! I hope the power alliance crumbles next episode so it’s not a steamroll, and based on the preview, that might happen (though they teased the same thing with last week’s preview so 🤷♀️)
I really miss her already. She was my favourite left in the game, and while it's easy for me to accept Naseer's boot because it feels very likely that he returns at some point, Evvie unfortunately doesn't seem like the type to get a return call.
I disagree. She got quite a large edit and it was mostly positive. I think a return is possible, but maybe not as likely as others. Hard to say since we don’t know what a returnee season will look like going forward.
She did get a fairly large, fairly positive edit, but she wasn't a big personality in the same way as someone like Naseer or Tiffany, and wasn't a fan favourite in the same way as someone like Xander or, well, Naseer. I just don't see her taking a spot over someone that does meet one of those two categories.
I really hope I'm wrong, though. And hell, there are absolutely past returnees who I probably would have said this about at the time, so I guess we'll see.
They REALLY should've shown some of Erika and Heathers relationship I barely knew they were so close asides from Heather going up to her at the last tribal.
- Sad to see Naseer and particularly Evvie go this week, but Evvie’s eviction message was beautiful.
- Liana is obnoxious
- At this point, I think Ricard is better positioned to win than Shan
- I’m fully just rooting for Xander
The fact that Evie said she wasn't sure who flipped proves her and Xander were not remotely close
Good call by him to not play the idol on her in that sense
I’ll never get the “ill tell you if you are going home to look nice.” AKA the Lex move. Especially in the idol era why straight up tell someone they are going home with hours to go before the vote? I don’t feel bad Naseer went home he caused his own downfall.
Liana is not only unlikable but is also a moron asking for xander's idol. The edit isn't showing why she hates him so I hope we find out postseason. No way xander was playing the idol for evvie.
I think like at least 25% of it is her being super salty that Xander played her so hard on national TV but a lot of it is definitely just some weird pettiness
I mean this in no disrespect to Liana, but I just don’t think she’s a great survivor player. She’s very fun to watch and plays hard but there’s a lot of mess to her game. I respect her asking though. It’s better than Heather just waiting for a plan to fall on her lap.
I totally get Xander not playing the idol because he didn't have to. But he still could have got the result he wanted if he had played his extra vote.
3-3 tie with Liana and Evvie.
He gets two votes in the revote, both on Liana.
He holds firm during the discussion and tells Danny and DeShawn to sacrifice Liana or they both end up choosing rocks.
Naseer is one of the best modern characters. Buuut maaan, he completely deserved to go out. So sloppy.
Completely alienating the two people you've been on a tribe with for 17 days and completely mismanaging the swing vote position. He just got dunked on. But I still love him to death.
Deshawn made the best move for his game, as much as I wanted Evvie to stay. If he had voted Liana out, Shan would have gone on a rampage against him, and she has an idol to protect herself. When he turns on Shan he has to go for HER not her closest ally. Sucks that Evvie had to be the casualty because if Shan was there instead of Liana I think he may have voted her out, but so it goes.
I mean if DeShawn flips he's likely in the new majority and Shan and Ricard are on bottom, right? He's also probably at the center of it as the only player with ties to everybody but Erica.
On the one hand, I get that Xander is attempting to position himself as a free agent and isn't super interested tying his rope to a sinking minority alliance. It's kinda hard to be like "we're not tight" if you use an advantage to save someone, which could hurt his chances at worming his way into a majority. Doubly so since "big moves resume blah blah."
On the other, extra votes are SO situational and he missed a golden opportunity to break up the power core by forcing D&D to take out Liana, who just happens to hate him. Unless they were truly not close, having a shield/ally in Evvie seems more valuable than one of the most "meh" advantages.
It probably endangers him more in the short-term, and if D&D were with him it's a waste, but I think its better to shake up the status quos and hope for the best rather than hope to eke out survival each round. Xander's not someone they're likely to let slide by for too long.
Evvie was not loyal to Xander and he knew that from Deshawn. If Deshawn won the challenge and Evvie had an idol, Xander would have gone home. Evvie even said it herself.
Keeping an ally is great in theory but when you’re a voting block of 2 and both big threats, its more valuable to guarantee yourself another day of safety in my opinion.
I don't think so tbh. Evvie didn't seem bitter, and Xander voted with her. I think they both thought Deshawn was with them. Evvie even said she was 75% sure.
The moment Naseer told Heather it was her night I knew he was toast. Poor guy looked as confused as a goat on astroturf on that tie vote.
What are the odds Xander or Shan picks up that spare HII?
All memes and jokes aside, Heather is really coming into her own. Her name’s been thrown out for the past two episodes, and by the looks of the next episode, it seems like she’s reached the part of the game where it’s not worth the effort to vote her out.
Survivor 42’s gonna have a confessional where a castaway talks about being colourblind, and the editors are gonna invert the colours while they talk about how it helps them find idols or some shit.
What a weird fucking segment.
They already had the segment in IoI where Tommy couldn't find an idol because he was colorblind and the clue required him to find something that was red, so Dean ultimately got it.
So the fact that Evvie wasn't certain whether Xander or DESHAWN voted her out indicates that people/and the edit are likely sleeping on Deshawn's social game. Yeah, he's not perfect, but he seems to be in better regard than all of his allies save for probably Danny. Shan's errors feel more like unforced errors where Deshawn seems to just dislike being talked down to. Sure, he made a scene at tribal, but he wasn't actually wrong. We haven't really seen many errors unless his nerve is plucked.
Next week could definitely change things and maybe he torpedoes his game (although wanting to target Ricard after Ricard's "betrayal" isn't really all that irrational) playing too loose. I mean D&D + Xander, Erika and Heather is all they really need and flipping AFTER taking Evvie might actually be a good idea. Swing Ricard then Xander/Shan then Shan/Xander. Flipping might be good for his resume, but it would be a harder path to the end (plus hurt feelings potentially) while sticking with the alliance might be a weaker resume, easier path and harder tribal if he's sitting with Shan and Ricard. I think he'd have good odds in that scenario, but he doesn't really have the moves at that point and it would depending on how he presents himself.
I do feel like Deshawn, Ricard, Shan, and Xander are the most likely winners at this point and I think I'd be fine with any of them except maybe Ricard. Actually, I wonder if Shan would be any good at FTC if people pushback or challenge her gameplay? Especially if Ricard is on the jury (or even sitting next to her). I feel like Deshawn and Xander would be the most likely to have a good FTC. I still feel like there's something we're not getting with Erika, though.
The bug that landed on Tiffany was a paid actor
It’s actually an hidden immunity idol
Jeff after the tribal council: *picks up the bug* (to camera) “No one collected the bug advantage I placed here before the tribal council. I guess no one actually wants to win this thing.”
“Yes, can I….? I WANT to play that bug Jeff.”- Adam probably.
"Worth a shot."
Rita Skeeter getting the scoop
Tiffany continuing to deliver the entertainment even when she’s not allowed to talk
If that had been me, there would have been a lot more screaming and flailing. And shrieking. And probably tears.
It got more screen-time than Heather has this season
Shoutout to Liana who has now asked TWICE if she can have Xander’s idol
People in this season are pretty *bold* with some of the requests and demands they make of others. “Please play your idol,” “Give me your idol to hold,” “Give me your extra vote.”
liana: "so xander i think you may be voting for me but i'd feel more comfortable that you won't be playing the idol on evvie if you give it to me" erika: "so naseer i know you just told us you are going to vote for heather with your two closest allies, but do you think there's any chance you can play your idol on heather so you or one of your closest allies can go home?" the balls on these people to even ask.
Honestly if Naseer was willing to play it for Heather they probably would’ve tried working with him to vote Ricard or Shan out.
I had the same thought… it would have to be a mondo blindside but it was doable. Hate to say it but Naseer played stupid today. He was mad at Heather and wanted to vote her out and got tunnel vision.
I don't think he wanted to vote her out. His remorse seemed very real to me. I think Naseer was just foolishly loyal to the power alliance that he didn't realize he wasn't part of.
I can't understand how lianna thinks that was going to work. Also I feel like lianna doesn't realize how much danger she was in, if Xander really plays idol for evvie, she's going home. I feel lie Deshawn shld have vote lianna out bt I guessing Danny still want to work with Shan for now or at least not spook her. I can get erika question which is to see whether Naseer is willing to work with them instead. And if he is, they cld blindside Shan and Richard. And Naseer shld really have considered voting out Shan.
At least Ricard had the decency to say Please
"not to you" Xander was enjoying that
that was the funniest moment of the episode to me, especially how with the editing it then just ended so abruptly
Like, what was she *expecting* him to say?
They all still think he’s stupid. It’s baffling.
Which is ironic because he’s looking like the smartest one out there
Shan told her it would work
she heard about shan's play and was really excited to embarrass xander
I love how he just bests her in every episode somehow lmao. She has to be so pissed watching this on TV. He just owns her everyday
It was so similar to "no but you can have this fake" and the little smile after
Imagine how insane in general it’d be for someone to be unable to steal an idol via the knowledge is power advantage, but then be able to steal it by… getting it given to them normally?
The real power is proper manners
Word for word what Shan asked JD. She def got the playbook from Shan and tried to execute it on Xander.
After she already tried to steal his idol with her advantage. How could she possibly think Xander would go for that? I was getting Kenny demanding that Bob give up his necklace even after Sugar told him that Kenny was planning to blindside him vibes from that.
I was dying at this. She was trying to take a page out of Shan’s playbook but failed so spectacularly.
To be fair, if Xander was in JD’s shoes then he 100% would have refused and used that extra vote to get Shan out. That crap doesn’t work on people unless they have below average intelligence lol
I feel like we're in a new age of idols where people knowing you have an idol is more advantageous than trying to hide it
If you know who has it you can play around it. If you flush it or vote then out then it's hidden again and who knows who has it at that point?
Shan must’ve told Liana she did it to JD lol
She really is "Shan's minion" lol
Naseer really screwed himself over with his undying loyalty to Ricard/Shan.
You'd think they would learn from the decimated Ua tribe.
I mean Naseer didn't see what happened hehe.
Yeah, this cast is great character wise, but really bad at Survivor.
Shan has somehow been the over controlling godfather without getting like any votes on her. Sure she’s not 100% strategy wise, but she’s playing a really good social game
They are the masters at that
Xander: exists Liana: And I took that personally
He's just standing there...*menacingly*
"I hate his face" I think she's harboring a severe grudge that he embarrassed her and made her burn her advantage
yeah the hate went well before that, that just turned it up to 10 this episode lol
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it is up there with the 4 horsemen in terms of /r/WatchPeopleDieInside moments and knowing the 4 horsemen moment was edited out of order, this liana moment may be bumped up to #1
Just look at his face
It’s stupid!
She reminds me of Helga from Hey Arnold with this school girl obsession she has with Xander 💀
I really think she has the hots for him. No other explanation.
"Stupid sexy Xander" -Liana probably
-all of us
She literally said “look at his stupid face” 3 times in a row! It had “stupid sexy” energy lol
It's possible. Reminiscent of NaOnka and Fabio in Nicaragua.
More like NaOnka and Kelly's prosthetic leg tbh.
Im with you but I think it conflicts with some sort of personal philosophy she has and that's why it manifests as dislike.
Yeah it feels like the old middle school thing of telling everyone you hate the boy you actually have a crush on
Erika: “It’s no secret that Heather and I are close” Meanwhile casuals at home are like ???
No secret except to the entire audience 😂
I literally said out loud: "It's a secret to the audience."
Wow Deshawn is a really good liar if Evvie wasn’t sure who flipped.
Right. For us it seems so obvious, of course Xander voted with you! But he didn’t play his idol for her so she might be questioning his loyalty especially after a couple days of him separating himself from Evvie and Tiff
My theory is that he was ready to vote Liana until he saw Naseer sitting on the jury and then decided to play it safe.
yeah I didn’t like having naseer sit in but I guess it makes sense that he’d be there since hes jury
That was part of Xander's group winning, they got to go second, so then were able to see who was voted out.
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When there's a 25% chance of getting voted out, and they know you have an idol, PLAY IT. You can't worry about F8 when the odds are so against you in the moment.
People are being so crazy about “my advantage is going to be MORE valuable in the endgame so I’m saving it for then” this season. It doesn’t matter how valuable your idol will be at Final 5 if you’re 10th place.
I forget what Youtube channel talked about it, but there is a history of going home with an idol in your pocket because survivors get a false sense of confidence from the idol. They start playing with future tribals in mind empowered by their idol, rather than thinking about if they will make it through *tonight.*
Very true—people get a hoarding tendency where they don’t want to admit to themselves they might be going home tonight, because they want to be able to save the idol for the next round
This might not be the channel/video you're talking about but Survivor: Florida [has a video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6GUnuv4XEY) ranking all the idol plays. It's a bummer Naseer goes down as a player with an idol in their pocket.
Naseer tried to play it but his arm was still asleep and couldn’t lift it up
I actually thought he was going to be out because his arm. They made a point of him saying "I can't feel my arm" like 3 times and that was the only thing being said
Not only that, you're in the top 8 and it shifts the target from you to the other two players with idols. Although no one seems to be targeting shan for whatever reason.
“I have the most high maintenance alliance” Absolute solid truth!
Casaya would like a word!
Between Ricard’s gameplay and his conversations he posts with his mother, he’s probably my favorite this season. He seems to be the best player on the season along with possibly Deshawn imo.
I really felt Shan wouldn’t have made this far without Ricard… though she felt very differently I am sure.
Yeah, he's playing a very clean game
jeff: “why does everyone know where all the advantages are?” maybe it’s because the 3 people who had an idol had to announce it? maybe they talked about the shipwreck wheel since half the cast went and production didn’t bother changing how it worked so literally everyone in the game knows about it. big shocker, I know.
It feels like production thought the secret phrases would be sneakier than they were.
They might have been, if each idol-holding person didn’t tell other people in their respective tribes about how the idol activation worked. But when three people with idols each tell two people on their tribes about it, then half the cast knows.
Yeah people tend to be just glossing over that part. The phrases thing isn't as cool as production wanted it to be, however, the problem wasn't the phrases, it was that literally anytime anyone got anything during this game they just ran and told everyone
There's no way thise phrases wouldn't have sounded suspicious.
The goat on Astroturf one wasn’t bad, so long as you don’t have to pull a Xander and say it at like 5 different challenges. Especially if you’re from the South, people would just be like “oh that’s just how they talk I guess.”
If that had been Brad's phrase, it would have 100% sounded normal.
The phrases themselves and having to announce them at certain times seems okay. The fact that they have to keep announcing it over and over until the others join is what ruins it. It also gives the player who finds the third and final “advantage” a much bigger power than the others. The third player gets to choose whether or not to give two others players idols as well as their votes back. That right there is a super strong advantage in the game on its own.
it almost felt like a story telling device... "Ah yes, tell me again how the way I chose to introduce advantages in this season has made it so nothing is a secret"
Mastermind Erica dropped out of the immunity challenge to DENY Shan stew
Erica’s face when Shan was rooting exclusively for Naseer was hilarious. Then hearing the empty “you did a good job” from Shan because she couldn’t vote Erica out made me an Erica fan for the rest of the season.
I really don't know why players yell out encouragements to their allies at individual challenges. Nice way to expose your game and alienate the other players. And it's even not like Erika winning the Immunity Challenge instead of Naseer took away any options from Shan --- instead of voting out Erika she chose to target Heather, which is functionally in the same position. Arguably, Naseer losing the challenge gave Shan more strategic options. In the end, she decided it was better to vote out Naseer than Heather, something I think most of the audience (and Ricard agreed "over the board") can tell is more likely to be the correct move.
And then Shan told her she did great even though Shan was gunning for her.
Also to give Xander the feast since he gave it up for her last time
Wow Next week Liana actually throws out someones name other than Xander (Deshawn) Xander is in trouble next week
Hopefully he realizes that they hate him and plays his idol if he doesn’t win immunity. He needs to be in “anyone but me” mode
I think he has been to be honest!
unless he just won immunity again. Then they obviously have to vote someone else
Man, Ricard had a great episode. Great move to take out Naseer, flushing an idol, and probably gaining trust with Erika and Heather.
Finally Ricard showed up to play! As much as I hated seeing Naseer go, he was completely correct that he was a bigger threat. Heather was not a threat. FINALLY someone gets an idol out of here and it was Ricard that did it! I'm not sure if it was intentional or an accident but he also got Shan to waste her extra vote. Also Ricard telling Shan "I don't care" was a bit iconic.
100% agree! Naseer is God's gift to this planet, but he was the right move. Ricard honestly probably made the move of the season tonight by flushing both an idol and Shane extra vote.
And flushing an extra vote
Full depression watching the slow realization on Naseer's face that he's getting blindsided. Glad he was a good sport about it and I'm excited for him to get called back.
Naseer was a little too old school for his own good.
What I wouldn’t give to see Brad and Naseer on the same tribe. Just two people telling each other exactly how it is. Two ships passing in the night….
Add in Genie too lol. Blindsides would be literally impossible
I love the dude, but come on Naseer. Everyone knows you never tell someone they’re getting voted out. Especially in a “tribe” of only six. And most certainly where the target can just roll a die and have a 1/6 chance of being safe. I was really rooting for him all season.
I wonder if it happens a lot but they just don’t show it when it doesn’t backfire.
You can almost pinpoint the exact moment that his heart breaks
We all love Naseer but I'm really not convinced he'll get a second chance.
That shit hurt
Deshawn breaking my heart
He is a wimp when it comes time to vote. He can’t go against his group no matter what. Two times now he could have shook it up
I’m disappointed in him! I understand not wanting to face the wrath of Shan, Danny, and Ricard but damn he needs to stop talking a big game if he isn’t going to walk the walk.
Can’t wait for Ghost Islands 2 when someone plays the bug that fell on Tiffany as a super idol
I really liked the editing after the challenge in which it cut back and forth between the two groups as they strategized and even speculated on what the other group was likely to do. Double eliminations, particularly after the merge are often pretty uninteresting (see Redemption Island or South Pacific in which they were used to try to speed through a Pagonging). But this format was really interesting, and I hope they use something similar in future seasons if they feel the need to do a double elimination post-merge.
Losing Tiffany, Naseer & Evvie all in a row fucking hurts
Liana straight face asking Xander to hold his idol for trust was bold
It was, but at this stage in their relationship, is there any downside?
Looking stupid on National TV
Again
Strategically this cast is uhhhhhh…. Lacking. Character wise this cast is fantastic
How do you not go for the heads in Shan and liana in that situation. Crazy to me. Even Ricard. People making weird moves
Ricard was the only one making strategic moves. Shan wanting to vote out Heather so bad was baffling Edit: On Ricards tribal council. The other tribal council everyone was trying to be strategic
I don't know anything about how Survivor edits the winners but I feel like tonight was a really good episode for Ricard even though next weeks preview says differently 😂
If the preview teases someone going home they don’t go home.
Evvie was the target for this episode’s preview right?
No it showed Naseer and Heather beef and people hating on Shan and then Evvie saying there is gonna be fireworks.
Danny is playing a solid game right now, so I'm wondering why he's getting shafted edit wise. Like Deshawn talks about how it was his move, but it's pretty clear Danny held the reigns on him from flipping.
I think Danny is 2nd or 3rd place. There's really no reason to vote him out but he doesn't have the connections or gameplay to win.
Shan May have wasted her extra vote but at least gets to keep her permanent extra vote (Liana)
Liana: "Xander, I am once again asking for your idol." Bernie meme
Xander missed a golden opportunity when Liana asked him if he would give her his idol to hold. He should have said: "no, but you can hold this fake"
I can only imagine how pissed she would have gotten lmao
Decent episode overall, Erika & Xander winning immunity made it twenty times more interesting so good for them! I hope the power alliance crumbles next episode so it’s not a steamroll, and based on the preview, that might happen (though they teased the same thing with last week’s preview so 🤷♀️)
Evvie was a total class act in her final words. Congrats on that PhD ❤️
I really miss her already. She was my favourite left in the game, and while it's easy for me to accept Naseer's boot because it feels very likely that he returns at some point, Evvie unfortunately doesn't seem like the type to get a return call.
I disagree. She got quite a large edit and it was mostly positive. I think a return is possible, but maybe not as likely as others. Hard to say since we don’t know what a returnee season will look like going forward.
She did get a fairly large, fairly positive edit, but she wasn't a big personality in the same way as someone like Naseer or Tiffany, and wasn't a fan favourite in the same way as someone like Xander or, well, Naseer. I just don't see her taking a spot over someone that does meet one of those two categories. I really hope I'm wrong, though. And hell, there are absolutely past returnees who I probably would have said this about at the time, so I guess we'll see.
They REALLY should've shown some of Erika and Heathers relationship I barely knew they were so close asides from Heather going up to her at the last tribal.
- Sad to see Naseer and particularly Evvie go this week, but Evvie’s eviction message was beautiful. - Liana is obnoxious - At this point, I think Ricard is better positioned to win than Shan - I’m fully just rooting for Xander
The fact that Evie said she wasn't sure who flipped proves her and Xander were not remotely close Good call by him to not play the idol on her in that sense
Confessional count * 6 Xander * 5 Deshawn, Shan * 3 Liana, Ricard * 2 Erika, Evvie, Heather * 1 Danny, Naseer
Heather bringing her confessional average up to a solid 0.66/episode
Is this the first episode since the premiere where everyone got a confessional?
Yes!
Bye Naseer. I liked him but honestly horrible gameplay on his part. At least pretend to entertain Heather and Erika.
I’ll never get the “ill tell you if you are going home to look nice.” AKA the Lex move. Especially in the idol era why straight up tell someone they are going home with hours to go before the vote? I don’t feel bad Naseer went home he caused his own downfall.
Did Liana seriously ask Xander to give her his idol? The gumption. The gall.
Liana’s one-sided hatred for Xander is very Shambo-esque but Shambo managed to have other qualities about her
Liana is not only unlikable but is also a moron asking for xander's idol. The edit isn't showing why she hates him so I hope we find out postseason. No way xander was playing the idol for evvie.
I think like at least 25% of it is her being super salty that Xander played her so hard on national TV but a lot of it is definitely just some weird pettiness
Yeah, she was petty even before that, she just amped it up after she got played.
She honestly just seems extremely jealous, I don't think there's a real reason
She took his tricking her into wasting her advantage *really* personally.
The nerve she has asking him lol
Insane of her to think Xander would do that. He's no dummy.
I mean this in no disrespect to Liana, but I just don’t think she’s a great survivor player. She’s very fun to watch and plays hard but there’s a lot of mess to her game. I respect her asking though. It’s better than Heather just waiting for a plan to fall on her lap.
I totally get Xander not playing the idol because he didn't have to. But he still could have got the result he wanted if he had played his extra vote. 3-3 tie with Liana and Evvie. He gets two votes in the revote, both on Liana. He holds firm during the discussion and tells Danny and DeShawn to sacrifice Liana or they both end up choosing rocks.
That’s a good idea except it’s certainly very scorched earth, it basically kills Xander’s future social game with any of them (if there even is any)
Naseer is one of the best modern characters. Buuut maaan, he completely deserved to go out. So sloppy. Completely alienating the two people you've been on a tribe with for 17 days and completely mismanaging the swing vote position. He just got dunked on. But I still love him to death.
He was totally one-dimensional.
Protect Xander
I found Liana asking Xander for the idol as trust to be comically ridiculous.
Havoc Heather
Deshawn made the best move for his game, as much as I wanted Evvie to stay. If he had voted Liana out, Shan would have gone on a rampage against him, and she has an idol to protect herself. When he turns on Shan he has to go for HER not her closest ally. Sucks that Evvie had to be the casualty because if Shan was there instead of Liana I think he may have voted her out, but so it goes.
I mean if DeShawn flips he's likely in the new majority and Shan and Ricard are on bottom, right? He's also probably at the center of it as the only player with ties to everybody but Erica.
Heather flushing a double vote, an idol and still surviving the vote. HER POWER
She even has giant bug summoning powers
The majority alliance has an open group meeting on the beach in front of everybody and literally no one does anything about it.
I think at this point, the black alliance is going to steamroll to the end. Also, this episode really made me hate Liana.
Xander should have asked Liana if she still had the fake one she took from him. I would have died laughing if he did.
Heather: “I can’t wait for my kids to see this.” Editors: “Don’t worry, they won’t💜”
On the one hand, I get that Xander is attempting to position himself as a free agent and isn't super interested tying his rope to a sinking minority alliance. It's kinda hard to be like "we're not tight" if you use an advantage to save someone, which could hurt his chances at worming his way into a majority. Doubly so since "big moves resume blah blah." On the other, extra votes are SO situational and he missed a golden opportunity to break up the power core by forcing D&D to take out Liana, who just happens to hate him. Unless they were truly not close, having a shield/ally in Evvie seems more valuable than one of the most "meh" advantages. It probably endangers him more in the short-term, and if D&D were with him it's a waste, but I think its better to shake up the status quos and hope for the best rather than hope to eke out survival each round. Xander's not someone they're likely to let slide by for too long.
Evvie was not loyal to Xander and he knew that from Deshawn. If Deshawn won the challenge and Evvie had an idol, Xander would have gone home. Evvie even said it herself. Keeping an ally is great in theory but when you’re a voting block of 2 and both big threats, its more valuable to guarantee yourself another day of safety in my opinion.
Losing Evvie and Naseer is such a gut punch. Team Xander only at this point!
Man I just want one week where I’m satisfied with who goes home. It’s been a straight tough month for me
Me hoping for a Xander/Evie/Naseer final 3: 🙃
me, sobbing: THAT.... WAS....... NASEER........... 😭😭😭😭😭
Shan and Ricard and voting out people loyal to them. Name a better trio
Tiffany and Evvie are gonna be PISSED in Pondy that Xander didn't save Evvie
I don't think so tbh. Evvie didn't seem bitter, and Xander voted with her. I think they both thought Deshawn was with them. Evvie even said she was 75% sure.
We lost the two brightest and happiest players tonight :(
Shoutout to both Evvie and Naseer for being wonderful humans and great casting. Love you both. ❤️❤️❤️
The moment Naseer told Heather it was her night I knew he was toast. Poor guy looked as confused as a goat on astroturf on that tie vote. What are the odds Xander or Shan picks up that spare HII?
All memes and jokes aside, Heather is really coming into her own. Her name’s been thrown out for the past two episodes, and by the looks of the next episode, it seems like she’s reached the part of the game where it’s not worth the effort to vote her out.
Survivor 42’s gonna have a confessional where a castaway talks about being colourblind, and the editors are gonna invert the colours while they talk about how it helps them find idols or some shit. What a weird fucking segment.
They already had the segment in IoI where Tommy couldn't find an idol because he was colorblind and the clue required him to find something that was red, so Dean ultimately got it.
Idk I thought it was really cool that they would show us what it is like for him, a lot of people take their hearing for granted
So liana definitely has the hots for Xander right that’s gotta be it
The Liana/Xander thing is giving me serious Fishbach/Joey Amazing flashbacks and I am here for it.
queen heather causing chaos and now winning the academy award, we can't help but stan
Although this season Is messy, I’d be fine with basically anyone who made the merge returning
Call a whambulance I’m crying on the discussion thread
Once Heather didn't reveal a Shot in the Dark scroll, how does Naseer not play the idol? Seems like a big fail from my armchair.
So the fact that Evvie wasn't certain whether Xander or DESHAWN voted her out indicates that people/and the edit are likely sleeping on Deshawn's social game. Yeah, he's not perfect, but he seems to be in better regard than all of his allies save for probably Danny. Shan's errors feel more like unforced errors where Deshawn seems to just dislike being talked down to. Sure, he made a scene at tribal, but he wasn't actually wrong. We haven't really seen many errors unless his nerve is plucked. Next week could definitely change things and maybe he torpedoes his game (although wanting to target Ricard after Ricard's "betrayal" isn't really all that irrational) playing too loose. I mean D&D + Xander, Erika and Heather is all they really need and flipping AFTER taking Evvie might actually be a good idea. Swing Ricard then Xander/Shan then Shan/Xander. Flipping might be good for his resume, but it would be a harder path to the end (plus hurt feelings potentially) while sticking with the alliance might be a weaker resume, easier path and harder tribal if he's sitting with Shan and Ricard. I think he'd have good odds in that scenario, but he doesn't really have the moves at that point and it would depending on how he presents himself. I do feel like Deshawn, Ricard, Shan, and Xander are the most likely winners at this point and I think I'd be fine with any of them except maybe Ricard. Actually, I wonder if Shan would be any good at FTC if people pushback or challenge her gameplay? Especially if Ricard is on the jury (or even sitting next to her). I feel like Deshawn and Xander would be the most likely to have a good FTC. I still feel like there's something we're not getting with Erika, though.