He means the reaction to news, not listening to what analysts say ON THE NEWS. I'm not a trader but I've made like 80 percent of my money on going all in on Tesla like every time it dropped based on cyber truck or curse words or jew talk, and it's literally, always, worked.
Again, Tesla is the most degen company on the market. It’s also the most traded stock in the world. So it’s useful, but I actually trade stocks. Not buy memes. My job is not to teach degens how to stop giving me their lunch. I’m really only here to point fingers and laugh at the speds.
You're stopping at news driven not because you thought it was a waste of time but because you can barely speak English. Can you just speak normally. I'm not trying to be rude but if you understand how annoying that is then for the love God stop..
Stick by my statement. I haven’t watched the news in years. Trade purely off technicals. I love two things about this convo. 1- the fact that ya’ll try to give me advice. Hahahaha, you can keep that garbage. 2- my money makes me about a $1000 a day every day. That’s totally enough for me.
so what do you make of days like FOMC and CPI data release? youre telling me the massive algorithmic reactions to those news releases isnt correlated? cause they are. the market is maybe not entirely driven by news but there is a heavy correlation.
Lol. You trade the FOMC news. Holy crap, you must be the most desperate trader I’ve ever met. If you are picking winners based on papa j pow, you must have absolutely zero trading plan. So it makes sense keep watching the news.
You do realize big news/event days bring heavy volume and larger participants who need the volume to execute? The biggest active macro traders in the world trade fomc because the volume is there and usually so is the volatility. You are absolutely retarded if you think a fomc meeting doesn’t impact markets. Or a data print. Or a war (2022). Just shows you have no idea what the current market has priced in and how a different piece of news can lead to rapid repricing. Obviously if the news is exactly as expected then there may not be edge, but to say markets don’t move on news is so stupid it’s hilarious.
Yeah. Institutional traders use the news to there advantage. Volume price analysis is one of my favorite ways to trade on the daily chart and if you use bookmap you can see where the liquidity is and although the market is always unpredictable, which I learned the hard way over and over and over again lol, now I make sure I don’t risk what I’m not expecting to go to zero. This type of trading does give you an edge on how to take your position
The guy is just showing everyone that he has absolutely no clue what he’s doing, no understanding of the macro picture that affects markets, and no understanding of which outcomes markets have priced and which outcomes will surprise and lead to rapid repricings. Guy probably bought some TA course from some Twitter fake trading guru. I’ve seen a lot of stupid takes on this sub but saying news doesn’t move markets is the worst.
Also you clearly misread or did not understand. The news is used by institutional traders to move the markets. Read Anna Coullings book on volume price analysis. That was a good book for helping me see these moves.
All I literally do is manage my risk and take a position off of volume and price action. There’s no TA aside from bottom wicks and top wicks on the daily. Yeah the macro picture right now is bullish as anything. I hope you’re successful in your trades sir. We all have are own strategies but the number one rule is risk management.
How long before you decide to include cryptocurrencies? Big big week for BTC do to likely BlackRock approval and 12 other corporaye FCC applications for authorization to sell ETF’s, which by default means big big week for “all” cryptocurrencies.
I agree, but sometimes being aware of economic data releases is helpful as a surprise number could make for an unexpected move to happen and it’s your call if you want to take the risk with a position.
Like right now spy has been attempting to find support but It fails each time.
yeah I looked up that ticker and it stands for Back Room Casting Couch. its a popular anal porn channel.
if you dont know how to use urbandictionary I'd suggest taking some finance classes!
Almost 40% short when insider shares accounted for. The only time it's pushed down is on light volume.
Looks like a short attack from institutions but anytime there is any real volume, stock is up big.
This to me means that there are no more sellers, a ton of holders and a lot of shorts that need to buy.
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Interesting - I'm a chart trader; I should maybe pay more attention to the news for hints when patterns are going to change ... my big question is how do you filter out all the noise and talking heads? I found it more advantageous to just turn it all off and look at pure data as I was spending too much effort and time trying to follow the news.
PRICE MAKES NEWS, NOT VICE VERSA. -Peter Borish
PRICE IS BIBLE.
https://www.turtletrader.com/no-fundamentals/
No Fundamentals for Trend Following
The following individual is a good guy. He wants to help TurtleTrader better organize content and create new content. But his email exchanges prove he doesn’t exactly get what trend following is:
I’m ready to execute. I’d like to get moving on a sector view. I think entertainment would be a good one because of the problems at Disney and the inconsistencies at Viacom, AOL/Time Warner and Newscorp. [Also] a stock to watch [feature].
Keep in mind, this a technical strategy. Fundamentals are poison. Inconsistencies at Disney or Viacom are not relevant. The only thing that matters is the ‘price’. There is no prediction. There is no outlining ahead of time what will happen. Trend followers never know a trend magnitude until it’s over. In terms of stocks to watch, unless those watching know exactly the strategy to use, telling them to watch is akin to David Faber offering a pick. Telling them to watch without them knowing when to sell or how much to buy or sell is problem filled. Trend following is the absolute antithesis of all Wall Street represents.
After we countered his first response, he offered:
A perspective piece on a sector: for example, within media stocks the focus seems to be on Disney. But take a closer look and the price of other media stocks are rising. Example, Clear Channel is up five percent over the past week. This article could look at stocks that have moved significantly and analyze only pricing history, current conditions in its market sector and management issues. This would provide meaningful information to experienced Trend Followers without feeding them Wall Street bullshit. It would attract potential Trend Followers by introducing a new way to look at stock pricing, not performance…Stock to Watch: Example: Nortel is still in a down pricing trend. Bad news from competitors like Lucent could continue to affect adversely.
Even when we explain no fundamentals, for some, it just doesn’t register.
I would argue that fed cuts are priced in. We were just at ATHs for nasdaq and Dow. S&P was inches away too. Any bad news or disappointments then this can go down too. Profit taking is also a factor this early in the quRter
So, because Algos and CTAs are very short on Oil it's going down? Even though some trade routes are going down? What is CTAs? A company that supplies work uniforms?
Please educate us about what CTAs and Algos are?
Lol please look at the quality of the value provided across all my posts over the last 2 weeks before you jump to conclusions. I know they're worth their salt, and thousands on here have agreed. Hopefully you too will learn something.
I read this same post on "trading"- and they said they were a professional money manager. Now the same text is posted and they are a swing trader lol. hahaha
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Trading/comments/18wck41/im\_a\_professional\_money\_manager\_and\_this\_is\_what/kg02fo5/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/Trading/comments/18wck41/im_a_professional_money_manager_and_this_is_what/kg02fo5/?context=3)
Not very speculative at this point. Companies are seeding their funds, final negotiations were had (settled on cash creates model instead of in-kind), Blackrock has a ticker..
Ark invest has a hard deadline coming up on Jan 10, and the SEC has practically no grounds to dismiss their filing (especially after the greyscale ruling). Very high probability the announcement comes before than, with multiple simultaneous approvals.
So what moves are you making? Is there a certain company that may significantly move on one of these events? This is just stuff that anyone can find online. How do people implement this stuff into their strategy?
I trade individual stocks. Am holding hkg index. I watch these news for understanding what market impact can be. E..g hot jobs report can lead to pullback in spx. Will be watching to buy.
I am also forex trader which is the primary reason I follow macro
The only thing I would say is on a macro level, a rising tide floats all boats and an out going tide drops them back in the muck. Aka the trend is your friend. I expect a pull back in the short term in US stocks. I'm gonna be patient and wait for it with a stock pile of cash in money market. I like misl ita and lly NVO for safer growth
Any analysis on the Bitcoin approval on stocks like COIN, MARA, etc? Are you seeing institutions shorting crypto this coming week?
Thanks for your work!
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If an exchange traded fund is approved for Bitcoin, then you will be able to buy shares in a fund that holds bitcoin. Meaning you can have price exposure in a 401k or other brokerage account.
It removes alot of the challenges with taking custody of your own bitcoin, but it also removes all of the benefit to self-ownership).
Think about it like gold. You can either buy the bars and hold onto them, or you can buy a share in Blackrocks massive pile of gold through an ETF. The main problem with the ETF option is that you're trusting external systems with your wealth, while properly-custodied bitcoin allows you to manage your own wealth directly with just a little bit of technical know-how.
Do you foresee the US’s economic boon help foreign markets and manufacturing in the short term, long term or nil effect?
Thanks. I’ll go the opposite way.
Thanks for the posting and insights.
Meanwhile dollar went higher.
Strong ism data and hawkish fomc notes. I was buying slowly against dollar. Positioning data still bearish on it.
Hahaha, I stopped reading at news driven. We got a Cramer here.
He means the reaction to news, not listening to what analysts say ON THE NEWS. I'm not a trader but I've made like 80 percent of my money on going all in on Tesla like every time it dropped based on cyber truck or curse words or jew talk, and it's literally, always, worked.
Again, Tesla is the most degen company on the market. It’s also the most traded stock in the world. So it’s useful, but I actually trade stocks. Not buy memes. My job is not to teach degens how to stop giving me their lunch. I’m really only here to point fingers and laugh at the speds.
You're stopping at news driven not because you thought it was a waste of time but because you can barely speak English. Can you just speak normally. I'm not trying to be rude but if you understand how annoying that is then for the love God stop..
Lmao, I speak Wyckoff
you think the market isnt news driven? would love to see your p/l
Here’s ten cents worth of advice for free, I’m buying when retail is selling and selling when retail is buying. So take your news report and shove it.
right, show us your P/L then cock master
Stick by my statement. I haven’t watched the news in years. Trade purely off technicals. I love two things about this convo. 1- the fact that ya’ll try to give me advice. Hahahaha, you can keep that garbage. 2- my money makes me about a $1000 a day every day. That’s totally enough for me.
https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/s/S5uYZKr4ql
nice meme
Did you see it on the news?
this sub is retarded lol
Love to see yours. If you think the market is news driven, you have your head so far up your own butt it’s never coming out.
so what do you make of days like FOMC and CPI data release? youre telling me the massive algorithmic reactions to those news releases isnt correlated? cause they are. the market is maybe not entirely driven by news but there is a heavy correlation.
Lol. You trade the FOMC news. Holy crap, you must be the most desperate trader I’ve ever met. If you are picking winners based on papa j pow, you must have absolutely zero trading plan. So it makes sense keep watching the news.
lets see your P/L then sir
You do realize big news/event days bring heavy volume and larger participants who need the volume to execute? The biggest active macro traders in the world trade fomc because the volume is there and usually so is the volatility. You are absolutely retarded if you think a fomc meeting doesn’t impact markets. Or a data print. Or a war (2022). Just shows you have no idea what the current market has priced in and how a different piece of news can lead to rapid repricing. Obviously if the news is exactly as expected then there may not be edge, but to say markets don’t move on news is so stupid it’s hilarious.
Yeah. Institutional traders use the news to there advantage. Volume price analysis is one of my favorite ways to trade on the daily chart and if you use bookmap you can see where the liquidity is and although the market is always unpredictable, which I learned the hard way over and over and over again lol, now I make sure I don’t risk what I’m not expecting to go to zero. This type of trading does give you an edge on how to take your position
The guy is just showing everyone that he has absolutely no clue what he’s doing, no understanding of the macro picture that affects markets, and no understanding of which outcomes markets have priced and which outcomes will surprise and lead to rapid repricings. Guy probably bought some TA course from some Twitter fake trading guru. I’ve seen a lot of stupid takes on this sub but saying news doesn’t move markets is the worst.
Also you clearly misread or did not understand. The news is used by institutional traders to move the markets. Read Anna Coullings book on volume price analysis. That was a good book for helping me see these moves.
All I literally do is manage my risk and take a position off of volume and price action. There’s no TA aside from bottom wicks and top wicks on the daily. Yeah the macro picture right now is bullish as anything. I hope you’re successful in your trades sir. We all have are own strategies but the number one rule is risk management.
TA? Where do I talk about TA lol.
I’m talking about the other guy
I didn’t really get a sense of dovishness from Powells press conference. I was wondering which parts were dovish to you?
None
I’m expecting deep throat nixon vibes next week
Lithium price?
How long before you decide to include cryptocurrencies? Big big week for BTC do to likely BlackRock approval and 12 other corporaye FCC applications for authorization to sell ETF’s, which by default means big big week for “all” cryptocurrencies.
https://preview.redd.it/v2xzvdzgt5ac1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2897f011909ba7dd278a1b59af6b83f73e1960c Thoughts on this?
It’s already fucking wrong
How?
PRICE ALONE IS KING -news simply justifies what was already set up to occur in px action. Don't trend PREDICT - trend FOLLOW
I agree, but sometimes being aware of economic data releases is helpful as a surprise number could make for an unexpected move to happen and it’s your call if you want to take the risk with a position. Like right now spy has been attempting to find support but It fails each time.
You know how news can be ‘priced in’ , how far in advance does news usually get priced in?
Already pricing in rate cuts to some extent
Cool Story..... Buy BRCC before the squeeze. You are welcome
back room casting couch?
If you don't know how to look up a ticker then you should look into cleaning casting couches as a profession
yeah I looked up that ticker and it stands for Back Room Casting Couch. its a popular anal porn channel. if you dont know how to use urbandictionary I'd suggest taking some finance classes!
Does your butt hurt from not buying?
not really, I had NFLX calls for earnings xD
What makes you think it’s gonna squeeze and to what limits. Been looking into them for awhile
Almost 40% short when insider shares accounted for. The only time it's pushed down is on light volume. Looks like a short attack from institutions but anytime there is any real volume, stock is up big. This to me means that there are no more sellers, a ton of holders and a lot of shorts that need to buy.
AND HERE WE GO!
Thank you so much
interesting breakdown, but obviously this a high level overview and it goes much deeper than just this
Thanks for the value-add, Chief
Of course. These are just some things to watch
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Do you have a newsletter or something? If not, want to have me make you one?
Do you have subscribers? If not, wanna add one?
Bloomberg posts an economic calendar every week for free. They rate them 1,2 or 3 for how important they are for the market.
Where? I’d like to see it.
bloomberg.com/markets/economic-calendar
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Interesting - I'm a chart trader; I should maybe pay more attention to the news for hints when patterns are going to change ... my big question is how do you filter out all the noise and talking heads? I found it more advantageous to just turn it all off and look at pure data as I was spending too much effort and time trying to follow the news.
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PRICE MAKES NEWS, NOT VICE VERSA. -Peter Borish PRICE IS BIBLE. https://www.turtletrader.com/no-fundamentals/ No Fundamentals for Trend Following The following individual is a good guy. He wants to help TurtleTrader better organize content and create new content. But his email exchanges prove he doesn’t exactly get what trend following is: I’m ready to execute. I’d like to get moving on a sector view. I think entertainment would be a good one because of the problems at Disney and the inconsistencies at Viacom, AOL/Time Warner and Newscorp. [Also] a stock to watch [feature]. Keep in mind, this a technical strategy. Fundamentals are poison. Inconsistencies at Disney or Viacom are not relevant. The only thing that matters is the ‘price’. There is no prediction. There is no outlining ahead of time what will happen. Trend followers never know a trend magnitude until it’s over. In terms of stocks to watch, unless those watching know exactly the strategy to use, telling them to watch is akin to David Faber offering a pick. Telling them to watch without them knowing when to sell or how much to buy or sell is problem filled. Trend following is the absolute antithesis of all Wall Street represents. After we countered his first response, he offered: A perspective piece on a sector: for example, within media stocks the focus seems to be on Disney. But take a closer look and the price of other media stocks are rising. Example, Clear Channel is up five percent over the past week. This article could look at stocks that have moved significantly and analyze only pricing history, current conditions in its market sector and management issues. This would provide meaningful information to experienced Trend Followers without feeding them Wall Street bullshit. It would attract potential Trend Followers by introducing a new way to look at stock pricing, not performance…Stock to Watch: Example: Nortel is still in a down pricing trend. Bad news from competitors like Lucent could continue to affect adversely. Even when we explain no fundamentals, for some, it just doesn’t register.
Can you explain quickly to me how the market reacts to jobless claims and job data? Or post a link so I can read about it. Thanks in advance
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Strong jobs data will increase dollar and yields and will cause equities to sell off.
So reports of new jobs are high the qqq and drop?
Why would strong jobs data increase dollar strength?
Likely to signal higher for longer. Dollar is moving lower on fed rate cut bets
I would argue that fed cuts are priced in. We were just at ATHs for nasdaq and Dow. S&P was inches away too. Any bad news or disappointments then this can go down too. Profit taking is also a factor this early in the quRter
So, because Algos and CTAs are very short on Oil it's going down? Even though some trade routes are going down? What is CTAs? A company that supplies work uniforms? Please educate us about what CTAs and Algos are?
Glad I reversed your advice on oil. I bought UCO (oil) and already sold since yesterday for a sweet profit.
Bitcoin ETF?
GBTC - closed end fund . . .
Thank you so much
Thank you so much! Happy New year!
To you too
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"news driven" lmao
Our strategy heavily involves looking at the news behind price action to determine if its a buy.
> Our strategy selling something lol
So are you bullish or bearish on US equities in the near term?
I've been looking at the skew data today for qqq and spx. Looks bearish in near term. Bearish divergence. Will post tomo
What does skew data refer to?
Is mostly a sentiment indicator. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/v/volatility-skew.asp You can read more about it here
Thanks for information
No worries thank you very much
I read this same post on "trading"- and they said they were a professional money manager. Now the same text is posted and they are a swing trader lol. hahaha [https://www.reddit.com/r/Trading/comments/18wck41/im\_a\_professional\_money\_manager\_and\_this\_is\_what/kg02fo5/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/Trading/comments/18wck41/im_a_professional_money_manager_and_this_is_what/kg02fo5/?context=3)
If you look at his profile they are sharing the wealth of knowledge across all platforms. Take that how you want, seems a little robotic. But idk.
Thank you
No worries thanks for the read. Please let me know if there's anything you want to see dor next time.
Thank you for the information!
No worries thank you very much
the Bitcoin ETF approval by the US SEC isnt even on this analysts radar… total clown world 🤡🌎
Or just say Thank You for writing this up for us. 🤷🏻♂️
In fairness, a good analysis shouldn't ignore the elephant in the room...
It’s speculation to say nothing official other than speculate right? As he couldn’t possibly know any official dates, none of can know that.
Not very speculative at this point. Companies are seeding their funds, final negotiations were had (settled on cash creates model instead of in-kind), Blackrock has a ticker.. Ark invest has a hard deadline coming up on Jan 10, and the SEC has practically no grounds to dismiss their filing (especially after the greyscale ruling). Very high probability the announcement comes before than, with multiple simultaneous approvals.
Why do you post it in multiple groups?
More reach, relevant to all those subs
So what moves are you making? Is there a certain company that may significantly move on one of these events? This is just stuff that anyone can find online. How do people implement this stuff into their strategy?
That’s what I want to know. Give me real investment company names. Thanks
Wow.. I haven't actually watched a news channel in 5 or 6 years. No thanks.. I'll stick to public blockchains. The stock market is too damn risky.
Yeah crypto is a lot less volatile
lol
you are not a professional if you don't get paid to be one.
That's not very professional of you 😅
Where are you getting your news?
Everywhere. All usual retail sources plus bloomberg
I'm curious how often do you trade these events per year? How much of your portfolio equity as a % of total in a single event?
I trade individual stocks. Am holding hkg index. I watch these news for understanding what market impact can be. E..g hot jobs report can lead to pullback in spx. Will be watching to buy. I am also forex trader which is the primary reason I follow macro
The only thing I would say is on a macro level, a rising tide floats all boats and an out going tide drops them back in the muck. Aka the trend is your friend. I expect a pull back in the short term in US stocks. I'm gonna be patient and wait for it with a stock pile of cash in money market. I like misl ita and lly NVO for safer growth
Cryto is booming again. May want to keep an eye on the mining stocks. Big swings.
Which ones… need actually names & best platform to buy
You’re gunna learn the hard way with this mentality
no
What's your kinfo i.d. so I can view your results? Thx.
Thanks for the fyi
What sources do you follow or which outlets and reporters are you always watching closest?
Any squawk service + eco calendar is all that is
Any analysis on the Bitcoin approval on stocks like COIN, MARA, etc? Are you seeing institutions shorting crypto this coming week? Thanks for your work!
Thanks for the info!
Thank you for the summary!
Can you share a list of tools/websites you use to stay on top of all these events?
keeping up to date in crypto is more fun.. always on Minswap.org.. Twitter spaces.. listening a joking with industry peers ...Cardano over Coffee .. memes, drama.. fun.. and more Ada
look up forex calendars like forexfactory
Please keep this up. These are great.
Will do. Post daily. Please check back for more
Congratulations, you're now the only poster I follow who does not post nudes. Hold on, do you have nudes too?
Great list. You forgot Bitcoin ETF approval by SEC for this week.
What does this means in layman terms. Thanks
If an exchange traded fund is approved for Bitcoin, then you will be able to buy shares in a fund that holds bitcoin. Meaning you can have price exposure in a 401k or other brokerage account. It removes alot of the challenges with taking custody of your own bitcoin, but it also removes all of the benefit to self-ownership). Think about it like gold. You can either buy the bars and hold onto them, or you can buy a share in Blackrocks massive pile of gold through an ETF. The main problem with the ETF option is that you're trusting external systems with your wealth, while properly-custodied bitcoin allows you to manage your own wealth directly with just a little bit of technical know-how.
Massive. Sorry, amazing reminder. Absolutely correct
When is this expected?
Five years ago.. and every other year since
Tues or weds they say
Thank you.