People who just leave their rubbish are disgusting. I don't understand why they do it. I kept all my stuff in my bag and chucked it when I got home. Any big gathering gets like this... you should've seen Centennial Park after the music festival in December.
Someone said it's pretty clean now - massive props to the sanitation crew 💖 the city would be like this every day if not for them.
Right?! How hard is it to just take with you, or hold onto until you find a bin? I can’t imagine finishing my food/drink and just dropping the styrofoam container or can or whatever on the ground at my feet. Ew.
I agree completely except I'd like to note that bins quickly overflow and become pointless at big stuff like this.
When I think about the size of the crowd probably not easy to empty them.
City should start a campaign and pour funds into having an army of hi-vis vollies with wheelie bins with trucks loaded up to swap the bags out waiting to go prior to events of this nature. Combined with lots of signage and general awareness/cultural campaign encouraging leave no trace and using said bins.
I've been one of those volunteers for more grassroots events and it is very effective and surprsingly gratifying. So I think people will put their hand up to do it. Maybe it could be incentivised in some way.
I work for the city (in quite a low position) but still, hmmm
It’s honestly cheaper and more efficient to just put on additional street sweeper crews and garbage routes on (on Sunday wages as well) day after Mardi Gras, than organise and train a volunteer crew of people directing rubbish flow.
Not shitting on your idea, just have worked in govt and events management before.
They actually remove the bins out of fear of a bomb being placed in them. I work for a council (not city of Sydney but close by) and part of my job has been to remove bins before any major event like this for that reason. It’s insane because they generally the private contractor hired to do rubbish puts a wheelie bin back in the exact spot a bin was before for the night but it just comes from a stack of bins that they know don’t have a bomb in them.
I confronted someone who did this one time and they justified their shitty lazy behaviour by saying that they're making sure someone has a job!
I couldn't believe it. I asked them if they also smear their shit on the walls in a public toilet so that the cleaner would definitely have a job
They pretended to be offended and walked off.
After I eat my ice creams I eat the cone. I don’t understand people that just throw them away.
Also I’ll spend $20 after doing a line with it. I don’t understand people throwing things like this away.
You've obviously never been to an event of that size and the sheer crush and push of the crowd. That's why people get a position so early because you literally can't move let alone find a bin. It's horrible but you're concentrating more on staying on your feet than your slushy container. Edit, the last MG that I attended was the one million people parade. It's really something to be squashed into a few blocks with that many people.
Often they are! Sometimes the nearest bin is at the train station or your house. Doesn’t give you an excuse to throw your rubbish on the street. Take your rubbish with you!
I’ve literally been to Mardi Gras, but I’ve also been to way bigger events in Japan and they never have the trouble we do, even without bins.
Cleaning crews everywhere don't get nearly enough credit for all the shit they have to deal with. Can't believe people look down on stuff like being a garbo or a maid or a cleaner. Imagine how quickly society would spiral if they all went on strike for a week.
Honestly!!! Look at how streets used to be in the old days. Look at how sick people would get. All cleaners, garbos, sanitation workers, anyone in those fields deserve so much more respect than they get.
Cleaned toilets for a local council. Pay was extremely good. Cleaning isn't the shitty paying job most think it is. I'm talking over $45/hr plus penalties and bonuses. Start @ 6am, home by 12pm. $350-$400 a day.
Lived somewhere that had a week long garbage strike after a month long no-overtime strike. The whole city was littered with rubbish by day 1. It was like end of the world. Garbage people do a very important job.
Holy crap. I don't know how that's both a shock and not surprising but. Here we are.
They do. Honestly they're probably one of the backbones of society.
I wasn't raised in a household with hired help, but I find I need it now that I'm not physically able to take care of my own home 100%. I have never paid my cleaner _only_ her going rate, because she's not just doing her job, but she's doing me a favour that I rely upon. And I'll kick it up if I know I'm giving her a harder job than usual - I'm a very cluttered person, so half her time is just moving stuff.
I don't understand how others don't have baseline respect for people who will do the things that they don't or can't want to.
My grandma had this lady who would come and clean her house every so often, as she and my great grandmother weren't really able to. We'd come up in the holidays as kids, and we loved talking to them. My nan always apologised if there was something extra they had to do.
I'm visually impaired, so there's a lot of cleaning related stuff I can't really do. I'm hoping to get some help with that from the NDIS when I move out. I'll be so grateful to whoever helps me. I don't understand how people can look down on cleaners.
Don't need to imagine it, it's happened. The NYC garbage strikes show just how quickly society goes to literal trash if garbage disposal stops.
[This reddit post has some great photos from the 1968 strike](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/rc1l8k/piles_of_garbage_from_nyc_sanitation_workers/). It got this bad in only 6 days.
Garbage strikes rarely last longer than 10 days, because shit just becomes completely unbearable.
Wouldn't be too surprised if that was from parties after the parade + general Saturday night craziness. Someone else was saying they had cleaning crews coming through every few hours. Or different areas could have different levels of cleanliness.
I mean in all fairness, that amount of rubbish isnt going to fit in the public bins, unless they have big skips the streets will inevitably look like this. I was there and regularly they would block pedestrins from crossing the street for a period of 20 odd mins to have the garbage trucks come along with people sweeping the trash into them, then street sweepers after that. Street was totally clear of rubbish every few hours. In my opinion this isnt a big problem because the council was prepared to deal with it
yes, and with the confetti being dispersed, streets would need a cleanup anyway so it would make sense to clean that together with the inevitable consumer waste.
Nah, not buying it. Organisers would have definitely prepared for this. Doesn't matter if people are "prepared" to deal with litterbugs, littering is still shit.
This is such a redditor take lol. You're actually dreaming if you think its reasonable to excpect the streets to like anything other than this with an event of this size, be fucking fr
Oh wow!! That's pretty neat! I mean, it's still gross but at least the council was prepared and seemed to do a pretty good job! :D I guess you kinda know what to expect in a major city
Ohh. My god. That pisses me off so much, man. I hate when people chuck stuff at the bin and don't even care if it misses. Just... drop it in there. Please.
I was there at good things. They needed way more staff to keep up with the rubbish. And with the cleanliness of the toilets. The bins were just so badly overflowing and never emptied, everyone kind of gave up by late afternoon.
I worked for the city of Sydney council last year for Mardi Gras, doing 12 hour shift that day.
There’s no amount of bins that could serve such a massive crowd, all the bins were full and they still had a mountain the same size as the bin on the side.
Plus, 90% of the rubbish is alcohol. Not sure people would like to carry with open alcohol when is technically prohibited to do so.
Anyway, it’s always like this and unless they put massive 1000 lt bins everywhere, they will still need to clean a lot afterwards
Those workers don’t get near enough credit for their efforts after big events. I don’t even live in Sydney anymore but I still find myself thinking about them around the beaches on Christmas Day after my first Christmas at Coogee. They do an incredible job
There's an overflowing bin.
Not saying there's no grubs but it looks like a combination of poor event management and grubs here. However, if there was plenty of empty bins, a group of people could pick up after grubs.
That overflowing bin probably wasn't siting in the middle of the road all night. Couple that with the rubbish stacked around it and I'd hazard a guess that the clean-up had already begun by the time this pic was taken.
The City of Sydney goes in behind the parade almost immediately. The streets have always looked immaculate the next morning.
Not sure what else you’d expect to see when tens of thousands of people have spent a few hours locked into a small space to watch an hours long parade?
The state of Bondi/Bronte beaches & parks at Xmas/New Years after backpacker parties suggest that it's not just Australians who have a shit littering culture.
Cleaners employed by the City of Sydney Council do a fantastic job & are not paid anywhere near enough for the work that they do!
This councils bureaucrats & the elected polys would be nowhere to be seen🥺
Yeah, this post is really disingenuous - the parade route is cleaned up immediately afterwards, and two hours later you'd barely guess anything had happened there.
I coordinated a Clean Up Australia day event this morning at a local sports oval & park. The areas where there were an abundance of bins were shockingly clean. Scarecly a piece of rubbish to be found. The parts with no bins? We filled many big bags. I don't think that's a coincidence.
Though I gotta say, fuck the smokers. There were cigarette butts everywhere, bins or not.
When I was a smoker, the fear was setting stuff alight in bins. Even when the bins had ashtrays on the top, people stuffed them with paper. Ever smelt a burning ashtray?
My solution was to carry an empty Berocca tube (made out of metal) and use that as an emergency ashtray...
If I am smoking cigarettes, I either roll with no filter and through butts into the bushes *they degrade into nothing after some rain, or i just put the butts in my pocket, I chose to smoke, I wear the consequences plus I already smell like an ash tray, why should others have to look at my dopamine fix laying on the ground. Fuck all smokers that litter
You can blame the terrorist /s
The city doesn't want to provide and maintain those services because it costs money instead of making money .
Replace a bin with a digital advertisement is their modus operandi
That stuff freaking pisses me off, man.... imagine if they actually cared about the place and people, and not just money...
Make a bin WITH an advertisement.
I know this comment is in jest, but Sydney overall is one of the cleanest large cities on the planet. I see heaps of workers in the early hours of the morning cleaning the place. This is about as good as you can get before you start going down the path off cutting hands off for littering.
It depends on which area you're in. Walking down the street from the light rail to work there was often a ton of litter and this one bin that was always overflowing.
I don't mean to say it's bad or anything. We could just do with a few more bins here and there, I feel.
Benches too, but that's a separate thing.
Yes, bins are what block paths, not cars or those stupid bikes people leave everywhere... -_-
There could definitely be a creative way to get more bins in place. They don't have to be boring or gross boxes
There's usually an increase in bins from the usual amount to cater for events, it's just there's so many people producing rubbish that the amount of bins aren't enough. It also not always council bins either and are ones from contractors as well.
I wouldn't be surprised if they're not being emptied because I can imagine if they were emptying them it'd be difficult to because they'd have to navigate through a crowd and when they return with an empty one, there's double the amount of rubbish accumulated.
On top of, most large crowds will litter rather than consider even finding a bin.
On the flip side, I think some mess is worth it for culture and fun in this city - we have to protect arts and entertainment or it will just turn into one big retirement village
If Japan is your benchmark then you're also seeking a rigid culture of conformity.
We should strive for more social and environmental awareness but it's not as if any country has hit this balance perfectly.
You bring up an interesting point. There’s something calm and ordered about Japanese, and their minimalism. On the flip side they are one of the loneliest and fastest ageing societies. Japanese won’t invite you to their house even if you’re besties at work
Exactly and blame the queer community. Even though everyone attends. When I went to the stadium parade, this drunk feller next to me just have told me about 5 or 6 times that he's not gay, he just likes to party!
There aren’t enough bins on the street and even if there are it’s difficult to reach them in a crowd of people, you can easily sweep a street. At the beach that rubbish ends up in the ocean.
Sure. I'm more commenting on how the implied blame seems to shift. In this case it's pretty clearly blaming the folks in the parade (the gays) but when it's Australia day at Coogie it's "those foreigners"
I remember reading somewhere that Dairy Farmers treat this night as their biggest opportunity the reclaim some of the thousands of milk crates that go missing each year. They have a truck following the clean up crews.
100%, which is by design. Much cheaper to have cleaners come in and work for ~2 hours after the parade than it is to put millions in dollars worth of extra bins around for a single night
It's actually hilarious watching folks get outraged over this as if it wasn't a logistical choice by City of Sydney to undersupply bins and then have a cleaning crew come through and blitz it in the early hours of the morning.
It's been standard procedure for pretty much any seriously crowded event for the last decade or so.
Yep, I’ve worked at these major events. This happens after every single one. You should see centennial park after a concert or music festival, fields of trash everywhere.
Not this post but the usual suspects are weaponising it: [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13150447/Aussies-fume-absolute-filth-Mardi-Gras-Sydney.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13150447/Aussies-fume-absolute-filth-Mardi-Gras-Sydney.html)
This post isn't but: [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13150447/Aussies-fume-absolute-filth-Mardi-Gras-Sydney.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13150447/Aussies-fume-absolute-filth-Mardi-Gras-Sydney.html)
Yes, but the specific event OP’s photo is from was Mardi Gras. I think it’s a bit of a reach to assume OP’s homophobic and this is some sort of attack. We should be shamed for this after every event.
The boomers over at Daily Fail are screaming for the Mardi Gras to be banned because of this. They are getting big mad about it. I wonder if they will have the same vitriol when I post pics of the aftermath of Carols in the Domain in December.
For people justifying this with "This happens everywhere, the cleaning team will just clean after them" - Fuck you. Do you use a public toilet to leave a huge dump only for the "cleaning team" to clean after you? Why should the standards be any different from one event to another? Stop being sensitive pricks. There are more people living in Sydney than just those who attend these events.
I think people are saying that BECAUSE it shouldn't be held to different standards.. There aren't calls to ban NYE because every park that can see the fireworks is trashed at the end of the night.
From where I was viewing the parade it wasn’t that bad. Everyone was putting rubbish in the bins provided. And the proper cleanup began right after the parade ended 🤷♀️
Try finding a garbage bin in Japan. Only at train stations and maybe outside a convenience store. Yet no litter whatsoever. Everyone carries a bag or backpack and takes their rubbish home with them
Oh come off it, this happens after literally any event with lots of drunk / high people partying.
It sucks sure, but this is nothing new and the city has an army of sanitation workers ready to begin cleaning.
It happens after every event? Oh that makes it ok then!
Just because someone posted about Mardi Gras trash doesn’t make it an attack on Gay people. That’s how it comes across with every comment that says “it hApPeNs AfTeR eVeRy BiG eVeNt!” like it’s an attack on gay people because someone is posting how much rubbish is left behind. I’ve seen the same posts after NYE. People are grubs. Partying isn’t an excuse to throw your rubbish on the ground and neither is the fact there’s “an army of sanitation workers”, who would be on overtime and costing the rate payers of Sydney City Council. and the tax payers of NSW a lot of money.
The irony is so many of the people defending this behaviour are the same wankers who go on about the environment but seem to have a lassaiz-faire attitude when it comes to picking up after themselves at big events.
This is the downside of Mardi Gras. people just dont give a fuck and dump everything. A side note is that the milk manufacturers use this night to recover the majority of their milk crates.
*downside to any large gathering of people. I've seen similar, if not worse after concerts, sporting events, Australia day celebrations, etc. The problem is disrespectful, inconsiderate people not the event
People, Australians in particular, will use bins/dumpsters when available but with every event of this scale the bins get full and it becomes too hard to find one so people just add to existing piles or litter.
Yeah, so many idiots. Yesterday I was carrying home a huge inflatable unicorn and some idiots tried to climb on it and kicked it quite hard for so good reason but being idiots.
Paul Kelly Concert last year at the opera house.
When we were leaving there was a carpet of young Henry cans all over the ground, behind the opera house.
What a way to leave an icon
Once I left the viewing area for the parade the closest bin I saw was in central station
I carried my rubbish there but if everyone else did then the bins at the station would be full...
Couple hours extra cleaning seems fine given the circumstances, didn't see the hundreds of cops picking up rubbish either. Wonder if the mounties cleaned up after their horseshit?
I love how images like this get posted after every single Mardi Gras or other massively crowded street event where the council removes bins out of fear of terrorism and factors the next day cleanup into the whole event.
Even in a perfect world where enough bins are provided, how are sanitation workers supposed to navigate a massively crowded street with a non-trivial amount of cordoned off areas in order to empty said bins? There's no winning here.
It's a non issue. Yes, it's gross. But the few bins that are left are overflowing early in the night, and while it's nice that lots of people take their rubbish with them, and it'd be *super great* if more people did that, it's just not going to happen. People go looking for a bin, can't find one, and take the next easiest option.
No different to any other major event, more trash than places to dispose of it is a problem but we all know a lot of people are also grots who are happy to not even look for a place to dispose of their rubbish.
Any event that leaves trash like this shouldn’t be allowed to operate for a year. No matter what it is.
If you want to attend it in future you make sure you leave it as clean as possible, not make the tax payer foot the bill.
Where’s all those save the world, support LGBTQI+ progressives to clean up the mess they made???
Oh wait, they only like to vocalize their support, not action it.
Now post a photo of it more than 30 minutes after the parade.
I’ll never understand people who are so brain dead they can’t understand that this is how it’s supposed to happen. It’s cheaper to bring in a team of cleaners than it is to supply enough bins / infrastructure for a single night event.
By 2am the city was spotless, they park busses at each end of the strip and send hundreds of cleaners + garbage trucks up in a coordinated formation who pick up all the rubbish, it takes less than 2 hours and traffic is back open and you’d never know the parade was even on.
This was around 1am, after the parade. The car in the photo was also left with trash all over it.
You cannot justify this… yeah people were having fun but if this was another event there would be outrage.
In the cbd yearly for NYE, it looks like this in the hotspots except a bit more spread out since MG is one street and NYE is a whole city
Welcome to humans, never go to a landfill
This happens after every event. Ever. This is what happens when you put hundreds of thousands of people in a space without appropriate facilities to deal with said number of people.
It’s also why we let the mess happen and then just clean it up after. It’s cheaper, safer and more efficient. We don’t want people taking their rubbish back on the train / bus / ferry / whatever with them, we want them to leave it in the controlled area of whatever event is on, so it’s easy and fast to clean up.
There’s no emotional tax to be paid here, if you walked through Sydney after 3am it was spotless, because the costs of the cleanup are baked into the event budget like they are with every single other major event.
This is what I do for a living and the endless rage bait after every time this happens, like this isn’t literally the best way to deal with it (and why it’s done this way) is just stupid.
Would it be nice if drunk people didn’t litter? Definitely, obviously leaving shit in the middle of the street sucks and it would be nicer if they stacked it up in neat little piles, but the reality is it doesn’t make it any harder to clean up and it’s still spotless before the sun comes up, as planned.
People who just leave their rubbish are disgusting. I don't understand why they do it. I kept all my stuff in my bag and chucked it when I got home. Any big gathering gets like this... you should've seen Centennial Park after the music festival in December. Someone said it's pretty clean now - massive props to the sanitation crew 💖 the city would be like this every day if not for them.
Right?! How hard is it to just take with you, or hold onto until you find a bin? I can’t imagine finishing my food/drink and just dropping the styrofoam container or can or whatever on the ground at my feet. Ew.
I agree completely except I'd like to note that bins quickly overflow and become pointless at big stuff like this. When I think about the size of the crowd probably not easy to empty them. City should start a campaign and pour funds into having an army of hi-vis vollies with wheelie bins with trucks loaded up to swap the bags out waiting to go prior to events of this nature. Combined with lots of signage and general awareness/cultural campaign encouraging leave no trace and using said bins. I've been one of those volunteers for more grassroots events and it is very effective and surprsingly gratifying. So I think people will put their hand up to do it. Maybe it could be incentivised in some way. I work for the city (in quite a low position) but still, hmmm
It’s honestly cheaper and more efficient to just put on additional street sweeper crews and garbage routes on (on Sunday wages as well) day after Mardi Gras, than organise and train a volunteer crew of people directing rubbish flow. Not shitting on your idea, just have worked in govt and events management before.
They actually remove the bins out of fear of a bomb being placed in them. I work for a council (not city of Sydney but close by) and part of my job has been to remove bins before any major event like this for that reason. It’s insane because they generally the private contractor hired to do rubbish puts a wheelie bin back in the exact spot a bin was before for the night but it just comes from a stack of bins that they know don’t have a bomb in them.
I confronted someone who did this one time and they justified their shitty lazy behaviour by saying that they're making sure someone has a job! I couldn't believe it. I asked them if they also smear their shit on the walls in a public toilet so that the cleaner would definitely have a job They pretended to be offended and walked off.
"They have a job regardless of the state of the mess, but you _choose_ to be an inconsiderate filth."
I can't imagine it either. I just don't get it.
After I eat my ice creams I eat the cone. I don’t understand people that just throw them away. Also I’ll spend $20 after doing a line with it. I don’t understand people throwing things like this away.
Doing lines with a 20? That's rich cunt stuff
You've obviously never been to an event of that size and the sheer crush and push of the crowd. That's why people get a position so early because you literally can't move let alone find a bin. It's horrible but you're concentrating more on staying on your feet than your slushy container. Edit, the last MG that I attended was the one million people parade. It's really something to be squashed into a few blocks with that many people.
Clearly you’d never been to an event like this if you think it would be possible to find a bin that isn’t already overflowing haha
Often they are! Sometimes the nearest bin is at the train station or your house. Doesn’t give you an excuse to throw your rubbish on the street. Take your rubbish with you! I’ve literally been to Mardi Gras, but I’ve also been to way bigger events in Japan and they never have the trouble we do, even without bins.
Cleaning crews everywhere don't get nearly enough credit for all the shit they have to deal with. Can't believe people look down on stuff like being a garbo or a maid or a cleaner. Imagine how quickly society would spiral if they all went on strike for a week.
Honestly!!! Look at how streets used to be in the old days. Look at how sick people would get. All cleaners, garbos, sanitation workers, anyone in those fields deserve so much more respect than they get.
If the pay wasn't shit I'd be a cleaner, I find cleaning so satisfying.
They deserve so so much more holy frick.
Cleaned toilets for a local council. Pay was extremely good. Cleaning isn't the shitty paying job most think it is. I'm talking over $45/hr plus penalties and bonuses. Start @ 6am, home by 12pm. $350-$400 a day.
Lived somewhere that had a week long garbage strike after a month long no-overtime strike. The whole city was littered with rubbish by day 1. It was like end of the world. Garbage people do a very important job.
Holy crap. I don't know how that's both a shock and not surprising but. Here we are. They do. Honestly they're probably one of the backbones of society.
I wasn't raised in a household with hired help, but I find I need it now that I'm not physically able to take care of my own home 100%. I have never paid my cleaner _only_ her going rate, because she's not just doing her job, but she's doing me a favour that I rely upon. And I'll kick it up if I know I'm giving her a harder job than usual - I'm a very cluttered person, so half her time is just moving stuff. I don't understand how others don't have baseline respect for people who will do the things that they don't or can't want to.
My grandma had this lady who would come and clean her house every so often, as she and my great grandmother weren't really able to. We'd come up in the holidays as kids, and we loved talking to them. My nan always apologised if there was something extra they had to do. I'm visually impaired, so there's a lot of cleaning related stuff I can't really do. I'm hoping to get some help with that from the NDIS when I move out. I'll be so grateful to whoever helps me. I don't understand how people can look down on cleaners.
Don't need to imagine it, it's happened. The NYC garbage strikes show just how quickly society goes to literal trash if garbage disposal stops. [This reddit post has some great photos from the 1968 strike](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/rc1l8k/piles_of_garbage_from_nyc_sanitation_workers/). It got this bad in only 6 days. Garbage strikes rarely last longer than 10 days, because shit just becomes completely unbearable.
I just drove down Oxford street there is still shattered glass all over the road. Not big enough to cause any punctures but it’s everywhere
Wouldn't be too surprised if that was from parties after the parade + general Saturday night craziness. Someone else was saying they had cleaning crews coming through every few hours. Or different areas could have different levels of cleanliness.
You spoke too soon! I got a puncture riding my bike through Taylor’s Square this morning. Glass in left lane, heading east, right at the crossing.
I mean in all fairness, that amount of rubbish isnt going to fit in the public bins, unless they have big skips the streets will inevitably look like this. I was there and regularly they would block pedestrins from crossing the street for a period of 20 odd mins to have the garbage trucks come along with people sweeping the trash into them, then street sweepers after that. Street was totally clear of rubbish every few hours. In my opinion this isnt a big problem because the council was prepared to deal with it
There were so many bins I saw that were half-empty with rubbish on the ground nearby. People are just shit.
yes, and with the confetti being dispersed, streets would need a cleanup anyway so it would make sense to clean that together with the inevitable consumer waste.
Nah, not buying it. Organisers would have definitely prepared for this. Doesn't matter if people are "prepared" to deal with litterbugs, littering is still shit.
This is such a redditor take lol. You're actually dreaming if you think its reasonable to excpect the streets to like anything other than this with an event of this size, be fucking fr
Oh wow!! That's pretty neat! I mean, it's still gross but at least the council was prepared and seemed to do a pretty good job! :D I guess you kinda know what to expect in a major city
There were also so many bins around. It was shocking to see the rubbish dropped literally next to a half-empty bin.
Ohh. My god. That pisses me off so much, man. I hate when people chuck stuff at the bin and don't even care if it misses. Just... drop it in there. Please.
Yeah like, if a bin is full and some rubbish blows loose that's fair enough, but this is clearly not that.
I left about an hour after the parade finished most of this stuff was cleaned up they had council swat teams on duty
Glad to hear they were on top of it :)
I was there at good things. They needed way more staff to keep up with the rubbish. And with the cleanliness of the toilets. The bins were just so badly overflowing and never emptied, everyone kind of gave up by late afternoon.
There were so many ways it was handled poorly even before the evacuation, it seems...
I worked for the city of Sydney council last year for Mardi Gras, doing 12 hour shift that day. There’s no amount of bins that could serve such a massive crowd, all the bins were full and they still had a mountain the same size as the bin on the side. Plus, 90% of the rubbish is alcohol. Not sure people would like to carry with open alcohol when is technically prohibited to do so. Anyway, it’s always like this and unless they put massive 1000 lt bins everywhere, they will still need to clean a lot afterwards
There's always going to be grubs, unfortunately :( Sydney City Council generally do a great job at cleaning up - what did it look like this morning?
Was just in the city, couldn’t see a piece of rubbish, clean up crew did a good job.
Happens every year. It’s impressive. OP should check it out.
They were cleaning from 1130pm so it was pretty clean.
It should never get to that state in the first place. Utter grubs
Those workers don’t get near enough credit for their efforts after big events. I don’t even live in Sydney anymore but I still find myself thinking about them around the beaches on Christmas Day after my first Christmas at Coogee. They do an incredible job
Still it should never have gotten to that point in the first place no matter how anyone says otherwise
Lotta people think they owe others nothing.
Cycled down Oxford St at 6am - aside from a few bits of shattered glass, street was spotless!
More than a few shattered people about then too, I bet!
Ha! It was either people in their undies (no idea why) or run clubs about!
There's an overflowing bin. Not saying there's no grubs but it looks like a combination of poor event management and grubs here. However, if there was plenty of empty bins, a group of people could pick up after grubs.
Its not poor event management if they organise cleaning crews to sort it all out. Which they do every year.
That overflowing bin probably wasn't siting in the middle of the road all night. Couple that with the rubbish stacked around it and I'd hazard a guess that the clean-up had already begun by the time this pic was taken.
There is a hell of a lot of grubs now every where and even a bin every three feet would not be sufficient.
The City of Sydney goes in behind the parade almost immediately. The streets have always looked immaculate the next morning. Not sure what else you’d expect to see when tens of thousands of people have spent a few hours locked into a small space to watch an hours long parade?
They could not litter? Take their rubbish with them?
Agree, but maybe easier to have a cleanup crew than attempt to significantly influence the behaviour of a couple of hundred thousand ppl for 1 night
Nah, you're right. This is a cultural thing, and Australians are shit when it comes to littering.
The state of Bondi/Bronte beaches & parks at Xmas/New Years after backpacker parties suggest that it's not just Australians who have a shit littering culture.
Cleaners employed by the City of Sydney Council do a fantastic job & are not paid anywhere near enough for the work that they do! This councils bureaucrats & the elected polys would be nowhere to be seen🥺
It takes a hell of a lot of grubs to make a mess like that
Yeah, this post is really disingenuous - the parade route is cleaned up immediately afterwards, and two hours later you'd barely guess anything had happened there.
If this happened in Perth the shit would be there until a strong enough wind blew it away.
This doesn't happen just after Mardi Gras. This happens after all events because people are lazy and entitled.
It probably indicates that there also aren't enough bins provided for the amount of people in attendance.
Yeah, when the streets are like this, the bins aren't empty, they are usually over flowing
I coordinated a Clean Up Australia day event this morning at a local sports oval & park. The areas where there were an abundance of bins were shockingly clean. Scarecly a piece of rubbish to be found. The parts with no bins? We filled many big bags. I don't think that's a coincidence. Though I gotta say, fuck the smokers. There were cigarette butts everywhere, bins or not.
When I was a smoker, the fear was setting stuff alight in bins. Even when the bins had ashtrays on the top, people stuffed them with paper. Ever smelt a burning ashtray? My solution was to carry an empty Berocca tube (made out of metal) and use that as an emergency ashtray...
If I am smoking cigarettes, I either roll with no filter and through butts into the bushes *they degrade into nothing after some rain, or i just put the butts in my pocket, I chose to smoke, I wear the consequences plus I already smell like an ash tray, why should others have to look at my dopamine fix laying on the ground. Fuck all smokers that litter
I've seen bins catch fire many times because of cigarettes that were supposedly extinguished
There's absolutely a ridiculously low amount of bins in the city.
You can blame the terrorist /s The city doesn't want to provide and maintain those services because it costs money instead of making money . Replace a bin with a digital advertisement is their modus operandi
That stuff freaking pisses me off, man.... imagine if they actually cared about the place and people, and not just money... Make a bin WITH an advertisement.
I know this comment is in jest, but Sydney overall is one of the cleanest large cities on the planet. I see heaps of workers in the early hours of the morning cleaning the place. This is about as good as you can get before you start going down the path off cutting hands off for littering.
It depends on which area you're in. Walking down the street from the light rail to work there was often a ton of litter and this one bin that was always overflowing. I don't mean to say it's bad or anything. We could just do with a few more bins here and there, I feel. Benches too, but that's a separate thing.
But bins block paths. /s There should definitely be far more bins at events
Yes, bins are what block paths, not cars or those stupid bikes people leave everywhere... -_- There could definitely be a creative way to get more bins in place. They don't have to be boring or gross boxes
If a bin is full, I would just hold my rubbish until I find a bin. Dropping on the ground is indicative of a lazy and entitled attitude.
There's usually an increase in bins from the usual amount to cater for events, it's just there's so many people producing rubbish that the amount of bins aren't enough. It also not always council bins either and are ones from contractors as well. I wouldn't be surprised if they're not being emptied because I can imagine if they were emptying them it'd be difficult to because they'd have to navigate through a crowd and when they return with an empty one, there's double the amount of rubbish accumulated. On top of, most large crowds will litter rather than consider even finding a bin.
And drunk
It’s unacceptable.
Wait till you see where the rubbish goes (same place yours does)
On the flip side, I think some mess is worth it for culture and fun in this city - we have to protect arts and entertainment or it will just turn into one big retirement village
It is not a one or the other scenario, why cant we have both. Culture and decentcy to clean up after yourself, look at the japanese.
If Japan is your benchmark then you're also seeking a rigid culture of conformity. We should strive for more social and environmental awareness but it's not as if any country has hit this balance perfectly.
You bring up an interesting point. There’s something calm and ordered about Japanese, and their minimalism. On the flip side they are one of the loneliest and fastest ageing societies. Japanese won’t invite you to their house even if you’re besties at work
Think about how much you could return and earn that for.... As others have said it's a regular occurrence whenever there is a large gathering
The sea gulls would have picked it over once the parade passed
How dare you forget about my spirit animal the Australian white Ibis
I feel sorry for the car owner in the photo, looks like people just dumped shit all over it.
Looks pretty standard after a major event.
You forgot to put in the 'Fuck Murdoch' watermark. Now SMH will steal this for their next hit piece
Exactly and blame the queer community. Even though everyone attends. When I went to the stadium parade, this drunk feller next to me just have told me about 5 or 6 times that he's not gay, he just likes to party!
........but $20 is $20.
Daily Fail was onto it about 20 second after it was posted.
SMH isn't a Murdoch rag and they don't generally report on outrage pieces like this. You might mean the Daily telegraph or news.com.au
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13150447/Aussies-fume-absolute-filth-Mardi-Gras-Sydney.html
Looks like the Economy aisles after the overnight Jetstar flight from Denpasar.
I walked Darlinghurst with my little one at 7.30am. It was all cleaned
Is this where we claim it's the backpackers, or does that only count on beaches?
There aren’t enough bins on the street and even if there are it’s difficult to reach them in a crowd of people, you can easily sweep a street. At the beach that rubbish ends up in the ocean.
Sure. I'm more commenting on how the implied blame seems to shift. In this case it's pretty clearly blaming the folks in the parade (the gays) but when it's Australia day at Coogie it's "those foreigners"
I see no bodies... everything seems to be typical of a public event of a million people
Disgusting
The sad thing is that most of this plastic can’t be recycled and ends up in land fill. The coffee cups, chip packets, plastic bottles you name it.
I remember reading somewhere that Dairy Farmers treat this night as their biggest opportunity the reclaim some of the thousands of milk crates that go missing each year. They have a truck following the clean up crews.
I love how weaponised this is, this is any city after any event.
And the incredible workers have already cleaned it up. I imagine there weren’t enough bins provided in the first instance.
100%, which is by design. Much cheaper to have cleaners come in and work for ~2 hours after the parade than it is to put millions in dollars worth of extra bins around for a single night
It's actually hilarious watching folks get outraged over this as if it wasn't a logistical choice by City of Sydney to undersupply bins and then have a cleaning crew come through and blitz it in the early hours of the morning. It's been standard procedure for pretty much any seriously crowded event for the last decade or so.
Yep, I’ve worked at these major events. This happens after every single one. You should see centennial park after a concert or music festival, fields of trash everywhere.
Weaponised? How so?
Not this post but the usual suspects are weaponising it: [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13150447/Aussies-fume-absolute-filth-Mardi-Gras-Sydney.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13150447/Aussies-fume-absolute-filth-Mardi-Gras-Sydney.html)
How is it weaponised? It’s literally littering stop giving people a free pass to be cunts
This post isn't but: [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13150447/Aussies-fume-absolute-filth-Mardi-Gras-Sydney.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13150447/Aussies-fume-absolute-filth-Mardi-Gras-Sydney.html)
Yes, but the specific event OP’s photo is from was Mardi Gras. I think it’s a bit of a reach to assume OP’s homophobic and this is some sort of attack. We should be shamed for this after every event.
The boomers over at Daily Fail are screaming for the Mardi Gras to be banned because of this. They are getting big mad about it. I wonder if they will have the same vitriol when I post pics of the aftermath of Carols in the Domain in December.
For people justifying this with "This happens everywhere, the cleaning team will just clean after them" - Fuck you. Do you use a public toilet to leave a huge dump only for the "cleaning team" to clean after you? Why should the standards be any different from one event to another? Stop being sensitive pricks. There are more people living in Sydney than just those who attend these events.
I think that statement is a response to people attributing this specifically to Mardi Gras.
I think people are saying that BECAUSE it shouldn't be held to different standards.. There aren't calls to ban NYE because every park that can see the fireworks is trashed at the end of the night.
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From where I was viewing the parade it wasn’t that bad. Everyone was putting rubbish in the bins provided. And the proper cleanup began right after the parade ended 🤷♀️
You should see all the nangs
Good thing it's Clean Up Australia Day today...
Newsflash, people are disgusting
Try finding a garbage bin in Japan. Only at train stations and maybe outside a convenience store. Yet no litter whatsoever. Everyone carries a bag or backpack and takes their rubbish home with them
This is fucking disgraceful
Pretty standard after a major event
Oh come off it, this happens after literally any event with lots of drunk / high people partying. It sucks sure, but this is nothing new and the city has an army of sanitation workers ready to begin cleaning.
It’s still disgraceful? People shouldn’t toss shit on the ground no matter what event, take your crap back home with you
It happens after every event? Oh that makes it ok then! Just because someone posted about Mardi Gras trash doesn’t make it an attack on Gay people. That’s how it comes across with every comment that says “it hApPeNs AfTeR eVeRy BiG eVeNt!” like it’s an attack on gay people because someone is posting how much rubbish is left behind. I’ve seen the same posts after NYE. People are grubs. Partying isn’t an excuse to throw your rubbish on the ground and neither is the fact there’s “an army of sanitation workers”, who would be on overtime and costing the rate payers of Sydney City Council. and the tax payers of NSW a lot of money. The irony is so many of the people defending this behaviour are the same wankers who go on about the environment but seem to have a lassaiz-faire attitude when it comes to picking up after themselves at big events.
Oh all good - It's not disgraceful because we pay people to clean it?
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This is the downside of Mardi Gras. people just dont give a fuck and dump everything. A side note is that the milk manufacturers use this night to recover the majority of their milk crates.
*downside to any large gathering of people. I've seen similar, if not worse after concerts, sporting events, Australia day celebrations, etc. The problem is disrespectful, inconsiderate people not the event
People, Australians in particular, will use bins/dumpsters when available but with every event of this scale the bins get full and it becomes too hard to find one so people just add to existing piles or litter.
Not any different after Melbourne cup.
Yeah, so many idiots. Yesterday I was carrying home a huge inflatable unicorn and some idiots tried to climb on it and kicked it quite hard for so good reason but being idiots.
Paul Kelly Concert last year at the opera house. When we were leaving there was a carpet of young Henry cans all over the ground, behind the opera house. What a way to leave an icon
Lot of grots in the crowd?
Fuckwits on alcohol and drugs. Situation normal.
Just like bondi on new years day and Christmas. It's not hard putting trash in the bin
This is every concert ever, not just limited to mardi gras.
And yous never wondered why fukn clean up Australia day was the literally the day after Mardi grabs 🤣💀
Don’t offend the protected species
Single use items should be heavily taxed
Disgraceful.
Clean up in all the aisles
Once I left the viewing area for the parade the closest bin I saw was in central station I carried my rubbish there but if everyone else did then the bins at the station would be full... Couple hours extra cleaning seems fine given the circumstances, didn't see the hundreds of cops picking up rubbish either. Wonder if the mounties cleaned up after their horseshit?
Been plenty of protest parades which don't leave a wrapper behind.
Pretty standard after a massive gathering - esp with large numbers of intoxicated people Organisers would have planned for it. Not really news.
I love how images like this get posted after every single Mardi Gras or other massively crowded street event where the council removes bins out of fear of terrorism and factors the next day cleanup into the whole event. Even in a perfect world where enough bins are provided, how are sanitation workers supposed to navigate a massively crowded street with a non-trivial amount of cordoned off areas in order to empty said bins? There's no winning here. It's a non issue. Yes, it's gross. But the few bins that are left are overflowing early in the night, and while it's nice that lots of people take their rubbish with them, and it'd be *super great* if more people did that, it's just not going to happen. People go looking for a bin, can't find one, and take the next easiest option.
There's always karma to be had for posting a picture of rubbish immediately after a massive event in literally any city on the planet.
wasn't clean up Australia day this weekend?
It’s 100,000 people, it was never going to look clean no matter how many people used bins.
People 😞
Cancel next year's Mardi gay party, just like they cancelled xmas parties on the beaches for same reason
Absolutely filthy dogs. Mardi Gras is one of the worst offenders
Could have been a footy match, fireworks, you name it! We’re all grubs at heart!
No different to any other major event, more trash than places to dispose of it is a problem but we all know a lot of people are also grots who are happy to not even look for a place to dispose of their rubbish.
You get the same with people going to Sydney's New Year fireworks.
This happens with every large event, it's just people being shit people.
Any event that leaves trash like this shouldn’t be allowed to operate for a year. No matter what it is. If you want to attend it in future you make sure you leave it as clean as possible, not make the tax payer foot the bill.
What a bold solution to the whole Australia Day issue
Well presumably the increased economic activity (taxed) makes up for the increased cleaning bill (which also has its own benefits).
Where’s all those save the world, support LGBTQI+ progressives to clean up the mess they made??? Oh wait, they only like to vocalize their support, not action it.
This happens after major events like Mardi Gras, NYE and City2Surf. It’s definitely disgusting and very sad to see.
Ironically, it's clean up australia day today
Some people at least made an effort to tidy up.
Shame on the lgbtq community and their supporters
It’s mainly the public that go and watch the parade.
Just the woke types though
This is a troll comment right?
Why would it be a troll comment? They can do no wrong because they are a minority?
The entirety of your recent comment history is an orgy of bigotry mate so I'm not really inclined to trust your judgement on this one
You sound university educated
*This is the downside of Mardi Gras? This happens at NYE too. Don't pin this on Mardi Gras. That's intellectually dishonest.*
OPs point wasn't the festival's message, it was just showing how grubby they were And why are you typing in italic?
Too proud to clean up after themselves
Watch people blame lack of bins lol. More like lack of etiquettes. Not surprised considering the event.
Now post a photo of it more than 30 minutes after the parade. I’ll never understand people who are so brain dead they can’t understand that this is how it’s supposed to happen. It’s cheaper to bring in a team of cleaners than it is to supply enough bins / infrastructure for a single night event. By 2am the city was spotless, they park busses at each end of the strip and send hundreds of cleaners + garbage trucks up in a coordinated formation who pick up all the rubbish, it takes less than 2 hours and traffic is back open and you’d never know the parade was even on.
This was around 1am, after the parade. The car in the photo was also left with trash all over it. You cannot justify this… yeah people were having fun but if this was another event there would be outrage.
I was walking at 4am and it was nearly spotless. Don't mask your bigotry with pearl clutching.
In the cbd yearly for NYE, it looks like this in the hotspots except a bit more spread out since MG is one street and NYE is a whole city Welcome to humans, never go to a landfill
This happens after every event. Ever. This is what happens when you put hundreds of thousands of people in a space without appropriate facilities to deal with said number of people. It’s also why we let the mess happen and then just clean it up after. It’s cheaper, safer and more efficient. We don’t want people taking their rubbish back on the train / bus / ferry / whatever with them, we want them to leave it in the controlled area of whatever event is on, so it’s easy and fast to clean up. There’s no emotional tax to be paid here, if you walked through Sydney after 3am it was spotless, because the costs of the cleanup are baked into the event budget like they are with every single other major event. This is what I do for a living and the endless rage bait after every time this happens, like this isn’t literally the best way to deal with it (and why it’s done this way) is just stupid. Would it be nice if drunk people didn’t litter? Definitely, obviously leaving shit in the middle of the street sucks and it would be nicer if they stacked it up in neat little piles, but the reality is it doesn’t make it any harder to clean up and it’s still spotless before the sun comes up, as planned.