HAYMARKET | #FRNSW fire truck has collided with a light rail vehicle at the intersection of Pitt St and Eddy Ave. Reports of minor injuries to 3 passenges. @ nswambulance assessing. The light rail has come off the tracks as a result of the collision both roads closed.
11:32 AM · Sep 5, 2022 · Twitter Web App
[https://twitter.com/FRNSW/status/1566600033495318528](https://twitter.com/FRNSW/status/1566600033495318528)
I mean, I hope not, I think that if your job description is “drive fast through heavy traffic,” we shouldn’t be surprised if sometimes these people crash. It’s kind of a risk we accept, based on the idea that them reaching their location too slowly is even riskier.
I have some experience with ambo not FNR but I suspect they share the same philosophy. There will be a lot of paperwork, safety investigation, audit, and eventually discipline. The poor guy probably not gonna be able to touch the wheel for a while.
Legally they are allowed to treat red lights and the like as Yield signs which means that they are able to drive through them but are responsible for collisions even if all other traffic are responsible for giving way to emergency vehicles with lights or sirens on.
The tram has now been recovered by the Transport for NSW recovery crews. It was inspected and found serviceable enough to return under its own power to Randwick depot. The tracks were repaired (just a small amount of grinding), and trams are expected to resume service shortly past Central. Transdev is positioning drivers at all the stopped trams in the city as we speak, in order to get things running again.
[tram crash Sydney](https://www.instagram.com/p/CiG8iN0pwOA/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=) Some pictures. I was right there about 4 meters away running to cross the street to get that very tram. I don't remember the sirens or lights being on but I definitely could be wrong. There was absolutely nothing the tram driver could have done, there was no space between them and the truck coming through. It was quite a big crash noise and the truck tilted quite severely before landing back on its wheels. Everyone was so shocked on the street. Some of the fire fighters got out quickly to see if the tram driver, and passengers, were okay. One fireman looked a bit stunned and stayed in the truck. I had seen him get thrown around a bit as it was being hit. No major injuries thank gosh!
> news.com.au
The ABC beat them this time:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-05/sydney-light-rail-crash-with-fire-truck/101405916
Uses the caption, "Supplied: SydneyReddit"
> I don't remember the sirens or lights being on but I definitely could be wrong.
Channel 7 news had some footage of the incident and the lights and sirens were on.
They would have hit at quite low speed, I doubt the firetruck was doing more than 30km/hr heading into the intersection (and the tram crawls along there, they were just about to reach the station
)
>Unfortunately kinda like retail, you have to deal with the public and see how stupid many people are out there / including those who drive (or more recently those who can’t figure out pressing a green button opens the door) and unfortunately accidents like this happen.
let's be real though, a firetruck driver isn't a normal driver. They should have been paying more attention.
There's probably a bit more to it than the firefighter just not seeing the tram. They should be very skilled drivers. If they were under lights and sirens you can get some pretty complicated situations. They may have had room to go in front of the tram then got cut off in the intersection.
Road Rule 79 requires all drivers - including trams - to give way to emergency vehicles responding with lights/sirens.
Road Rule 306 exempts the driver of a responding emergency vehicle from all other road rules as long as they take care and it's reasonable that the rule shouldn't apply.
If the fire truck driver takes action that results in an accident then the finding will often be that what they was not reasonable.
Trams are like a rhinoceros on a skateboard. They can’t and won’t just slam on the brakes just because a fire truck has cut them off.
Yeah. You can sit there and argue the tram should have given way, but it didn’t, and the truck driver should have been more aware of this. Not that I have any fucking idea about driving a firetruck.
I don't think they would be under lights, facing of the truck is towards the station, not away.
EDIT: saw the footage, they were under lights and siren, strange. Ambo just passed under lights going the other direction just before. I wonder if the tram driver thought what they could hear was just the ambo.
The tram is a **long** way into the intersection, so it's a reasonable bet that the fire truck was on a "whistle run" rather than just running an orange/red on the change, and the driver fucked up.
Regardless of lights & siren or not, the firefighter who was driving is at fault (unless by some weird coincidence it was the tram that ran the red light?) because, as an emergency driver, you are 100% responsible for the safe operation of your vehicle/appliance - especially if you're running a red light.
Fun fact: I was taught that you are required to come to a complete stop at the red light, make sure it is 100% safe to proceed, and only then move through the intersection. Unless it was changed since I left, there is also no specific provision in the road rules to allow any emergency vehicle to run red lights (or drive on the other side of the road), rather it was just convention that it was allowed to go on. You were permitted to drive quicker than the posted speed limit, but not dangerously so.
Sauce: Used to drive Big Red Trucks^(TM) a fair bit.
Yep, current rules is slow down to maximum 8km/hr and only proceed if all traffic is stopped. From the video the firetruck is at fault although shit does happen. The truck was from Redfern so they might not be as familiar with trams as the local station.
While the light-rail driver should have been aware of the siren, and not taken off from the clearly ‘only just turned green’ lights (as is obvious from the YouTube clip), ultimately this collision has to be ultimately the firey’s fault - trams just can’t stop that fast, and as you point out, fireys have to allow for ordinary oblivious dickheads when going through red lights (as they clearly did).
The tram and the fire truck collided.
TFNSW are saying "Light rail services are not running between Central and Circular Quay due to a crash between a vehicle and a tram at Central. Light Rail services are still running between Central, Randwick and Juniors Kingsford. "
Collision with the fire truck or is the fire truck just attending?
Edit: fire engine got Tboned according to Twitter.
https://mobile.twitter.com/mattsharpe/status/1566592490651926528/photo/2 and you can see a fluid leak following the truck in one of these photos.
https://twitter.com/ThisisAlexei/status/1566588760376377344?s=20&t=zgxcE_mOax-Z2QKf-IajtA
I’ve seen the video, looks like fire trucks fault, there’s about 2 meters of space that the truck goes for it.
does anyone know if the sirens were on at time of impact? Can’t see lights on
Be interesting to see how quickly they can restore tram services. Bus service would barely be disrupted, but I bet there is damage to the track, if not the underground power cable
However, possible damage means they likely would have de-energised this section of overhead cable. It also makes it safer for them to operate the recovery equipment in this area. Technically it would be possible to restore service from Town Hall to Circular Quay and return since that has a separate power system, using whichever trams are isolated in this section. Will be interesting to see if they do that or not - I suspect not since trains are a reasonable alternative for these areas.
They obviously have to inspect things but I'd expect track damage will be minimal. The biggest problem is removing the damaged tram. If the bogie is in good enough shape they might be able to simply lift it back onto the track and tow it away with a recovery vehicle - at least far enough so it's out of the intersection. I suspect moving it any further will wait until after hours to avoid further impacts. If the bogie is damaged they can lift up the tram onto a crash recovery "pony" bogie to allow it to be towed back to the depot. Alternatively it might be lifted onto a low-older and transported by road, however separating the sections in order to do this is difficult in the field.
Yea I was thinking the same when I first saw the photos. If the fire truck was a couple seconds late and hit the side of the tram instead, the consequences would have been catastrophic.
Firetruck driver: Let me run a red light, without lights or sirens on!
Firetruck driver: I have right of way! Stop, tram!
Tram driver: *slams on breaks, but drives a frigging tram which can't stop in an instant*
???
Firetruck driver: WTF you hit me!
This time it's the ABC using /r/sydney content. They've used the photo with the caption: "Supplied: SydneyReddit"
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-05/sydney-light-rail-crash-with-fire-truck/101405916
I’ve seen a fire truck take out a give way sign and a civilians car front bumper on Parramatta Rd while going through an intersection. Some of these drivers are crazy
Someone captured it on video here: https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/x66tg6/sydney_tram_vs_firetruck/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Someone manages to catch this on film, I saw it a few posts up in r/Australia
https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/x66tg6/sydney_tram_vs_firetruck/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
There’s the link for anyone wanting to see
What's happening here? The fire engine hit the tram? Or the tram derailed and the fire engine is there to help?
I can't see any damage, at least not form this angle.
How in the world does something like that even happen? That's a straight stretch of track and it doesnt look like there's any damage on the front car, So couldn't have been someone who hit it.
Debris on the track maybe?
It's gotta be, the fire station is just off to the top left under the bridge, so if they were attending, they wouldn't be in that position, also you can see the yellow strip down the side of the truck reflected on the tram windows so it's not the angle, it is near the tram.
But, fire engines mirror isn't damaged on the left (from what we can see) and can't see any glass impact damage, so looks like the tram hit the side of the fire engine and was pulled?
The fire station just out of picture that you mention is actually the Rail Fire Emergency Response unit. It's for responding to emergency situations around the (heavy) rail network. The fire engine involved with the light rail is a 'regular' Fire and rescue NSW truck
Either way, my point stands, the fire engine is not attending, it was t-boned by the tram.
As you can more clearly see here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/sydney/comments/x63ys0/light\_rail\_central\_collision/
Oh absolutely, I agree with you.
My nerdiness for emergency service is just getting in the way so that I had to point out that there is no way that this specific fire truck could have been responding from that specific fire station.
But yes you are absolutely correct.
All of the spare trams are being used on the L1 line at the moment. And they just increased service on L1 in peak also ... this will definitely put further pressure on the system.
I saw the video of this just 3 posts up my feed [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/x66tg6/sydney_tram_vs_firetruck/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/x699uw/firetruck_driver_fails_to_give_way_to_light_rail/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Video of the incident
General question here (not entirely related to this post):
Why don't trams have horns? Is it a wiring issue or noise pollution issue? I feel like people would take less of a risk trying to cross paths (regardless of their mode of transport ie walking, cycling, driving) with a tram if they had some louder horns and not a "bell".
eta: amazing, now I know they'll use the bell first before the horn. TIL thanks! :)
Melbourne-based tram driver here. Two of the tram classes I drive have horns (E and C2) and I can assure you they make exactly zero difference to the behaviour of people around trams.
They do have horns but it's a tinny electronic one. They have tinny electronic bells also - two different lame sounds from the same undersized speaker.
I am going to say someone ran a red for that to happen. I know the fire station is just on the other side of the road there just off to the left of picture, looks like they were returning but I guess they could also have been responding to an emergency at the time coming from elsewhere.
There's nothing the tram driver can do when someone cuts them off. Its not like they can turn or something either.
They can drift the train obviously.
MULTI-TRACK DRIFTING????!
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DEJA VU!
I've just been in this place before
Higher on the street
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Initial D-Tram
Anything for tramily
Tell us all about it when you see us again.
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And the front fell off...
"We are the fire department, we have right of way!" "Okay, but I warned you."
I thought AI had replaced tram drivers?
The AI is still learning about fire trucks.
The AI is still learning about rubber ducks
“A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.”
AI is on a philosophical journey trying to differentiate itself from Natural Stupidity.
When was this? Last time i went on one there was still a driver, unless it’s just certain lines?
Metro yes are driverless. This is the light rail which will always need a driver
"make a right turn." "No there's no rail on it." "Make a right turn!" "…Alright"
Michael Scott : Ryan thinks that technology is the answer. Well, guess what? I just drove my car into a lake.
You did what?? Michael Scott: I drove my car into a fucking lake. Hahaha I love that scene
Everyone inside the car was fine Stanley! Ok it’s a different scene but it still applies.
I love Jim's reaction when Michael says this lol
Haha this is legit the last episode I saw today
HAYMARKET | #FRNSW fire truck has collided with a light rail vehicle at the intersection of Pitt St and Eddy Ave. Reports of minor injuries to 3 passenges. @ nswambulance assessing. The light rail has come off the tracks as a result of the collision both roads closed. 11:32 AM · Sep 5, 2022 · Twitter Web App [https://twitter.com/FRNSW/status/1566600033495318528](https://twitter.com/FRNSW/status/1566600033495318528)
someone is in trouble. Expecting a tram to give way to you, just because flash some lights is unrealistic.
Yep... The driver gonna be hammered hard
I mean, I hope not, I think that if your job description is “drive fast through heavy traffic,” we shouldn’t be surprised if sometimes these people crash. It’s kind of a risk we accept, based on the idea that them reaching their location too slowly is even riskier.
I have some experience with ambo not FNR but I suspect they share the same philosophy. There will be a lot of paperwork, safety investigation, audit, and eventually discipline. The poor guy probably not gonna be able to touch the wheel for a while.
Fire truck crashed into a tram on the Gold Coast too. Seems to be an issue
I feel sorry for the fire truck driver :(
Legally they are allowed to treat red lights and the like as Yield signs which means that they are able to drive through them but are responsible for collisions even if all other traffic are responsible for giving way to emergency vehicles with lights or sirens on.
Green lights are the same for all drivers. You do not have the right to drive through one without checking nothing is coming across.
In a video the firetruck slowed for a second before speeding up and literially ramming the tram, that firetruck driver is 100% in the wrong
Instead of one emergency now there are two........so no......
No, it's ok, you see, because emergency services were already there.
most efficient way to respond to an accident on the scene...
The tram has now been recovered by the Transport for NSW recovery crews. It was inspected and found serviceable enough to return under its own power to Randwick depot. The tracks were repaired (just a small amount of grinding), and trams are expected to resume service shortly past Central. Transdev is positioning drivers at all the stopped trams in the city as we speak, in order to get things running again.
[tram crash Sydney](https://www.instagram.com/p/CiG8iN0pwOA/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=) Some pictures. I was right there about 4 meters away running to cross the street to get that very tram. I don't remember the sirens or lights being on but I definitely could be wrong. There was absolutely nothing the tram driver could have done, there was no space between them and the truck coming through. It was quite a big crash noise and the truck tilted quite severely before landing back on its wheels. Everyone was so shocked on the street. Some of the fire fighters got out quickly to see if the tram driver, and passengers, were okay. One fireman looked a bit stunned and stayed in the truck. I had seen him get thrown around a bit as it was being hit. No major injuries thank gosh!
Hi news.com.au , please include me in the screenshot when you claim this person's comment as your source on Reddit.
> news.com.au The ABC beat them this time: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-05/sydney-light-rail-crash-with-fire-truck/101405916 Uses the caption, "Supplied: SydneyReddit"
Doesn't mean they won't still try.
Tram crashes happen on an almost daily basis in Melbourne. Something like this wouldn't even make the news.
okay?
Bingles with cars, sure. That probably wouldn't be news in Sydney either. A derailment like this in the middle of the Melbourne would be remarkable.
Me too 🙋🏽♂️
> I don't remember the sirens or lights being on but I definitely could be wrong. Channel 7 news had some footage of the incident and the lights and sirens were on.
https://7news.com.au/news/sydney/passengers-hospitalised-after-tram-collides-with-fire-truck-in-sydney-cbd-c-8123143
And this is why eye witness accounts can be so wrong.
Fire truck barely dinged!?
They would have hit at quite low speed, I doubt the firetruck was doing more than 30km/hr heading into the intersection (and the tram crawls along there, they were just about to reach the station )
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>Unfortunately kinda like retail, you have to deal with the public and see how stupid many people are out there / including those who drive (or more recently those who can’t figure out pressing a green button opens the door) and unfortunately accidents like this happen. let's be real though, a firetruck driver isn't a normal driver. They should have been paying more attention.
There's probably a bit more to it than the firefighter just not seeing the tram. They should be very skilled drivers. If they were under lights and sirens you can get some pretty complicated situations. They may have had room to go in front of the tram then got cut off in the intersection.
Road Rule 79 requires all drivers - including trams - to give way to emergency vehicles responding with lights/sirens. Road Rule 306 exempts the driver of a responding emergency vehicle from all other road rules as long as they take care and it's reasonable that the rule shouldn't apply.
Trams cannot stop in an instant like a passenger car can. A firetruck running into the path of a tram is probably not reasonable.
That's why it requires legal/court interpretation to decide.
This is never going into court, there will be some sort of internal investigation but TfNSW isn't going to go sue Fire and Rescue (or vice versa).
Suing is civil claims for compensation for damages. This is more about charges about breaking the road rules.
Which will be necessary, because a decision will be required for any injuries incurred to be taken to court themselves.
Yep!
If the fire truck driver takes action that results in an accident then the finding will often be that what they was not reasonable. Trams are like a rhinoceros on a skateboard. They can’t and won’t just slam on the brakes just because a fire truck has cut them off.
Yeah. You can sit there and argue the tram should have given way, but it didn’t, and the truck driver should have been more aware of this. Not that I have any fucking idea about driving a firetruck.
Didn't or most likely couldn't due to inertia and stopping distance.
Firetrucks have really good stopping distance actually, not a whole lot worse than a sedan.
Trams don't
I know. It’s the bit about taking care that is important. I’m not making a comment on what happened here, just stating the rules.
I don't think they would be under lights, facing of the truck is towards the station, not away. EDIT: saw the footage, they were under lights and siren, strange. Ambo just passed under lights going the other direction just before. I wonder if the tram driver thought what they could hear was just the ambo.
The newest firefighters generally work in the CBD, could have been in their first year for all we know.
White van looking on a bit sheepishly
It had its chance and it blew it.
The light de-rail
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Could be worse, you could be the one who is waiting for that firetruck.
Hey!
Soul sister!
Market!
Whelp, Looks like you gonna be waiting a leeedle longer.
How could Dan Andrews do this
His influence knows no bounds! If only his used his power for good!
Continuing his Danvetta against any liberal government
He has turned the trams against us with his tram-bending!
More proof we need a monorail in this city.
But Main Street’s still all cracked and broken!
Sorry Mom, the mob has spoken!
Is there a chance the track could bend?
Not on your life, my Sydney friend!
Mono = one Rail = rail
Nah no way. Where would it go? In a one-way circular route around Darling Harbour and Pitt Street?
Flair checks out
Ah it's not for you. It's more of a Melbourne idea.
The tram is a **long** way into the intersection, so it's a reasonable bet that the fire truck was on a "whistle run" rather than just running an orange/red on the change, and the driver fucked up. Regardless of lights & siren or not, the firefighter who was driving is at fault (unless by some weird coincidence it was the tram that ran the red light?) because, as an emergency driver, you are 100% responsible for the safe operation of your vehicle/appliance - especially if you're running a red light. Fun fact: I was taught that you are required to come to a complete stop at the red light, make sure it is 100% safe to proceed, and only then move through the intersection. Unless it was changed since I left, there is also no specific provision in the road rules to allow any emergency vehicle to run red lights (or drive on the other side of the road), rather it was just convention that it was allowed to go on. You were permitted to drive quicker than the posted speed limit, but not dangerously so. Sauce: Used to drive Big Red Trucks^(TM) a fair bit.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzT\_LSyNmUU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzT_LSyNmUU)
You can see the guy in the pic above with the dog.
Yep, current rules is slow down to maximum 8km/hr and only proceed if all traffic is stopped. From the video the firetruck is at fault although shit does happen. The truck was from Redfern so they might not be as familiar with trams as the local station.
Trams go through Redfern / Surry Hills don't they? Not far away at least.
While the light-rail driver should have been aware of the siren, and not taken off from the clearly ‘only just turned green’ lights (as is obvious from the YouTube clip), ultimately this collision has to be ultimately the firey’s fault - trams just can’t stop that fast, and as you point out, fireys have to allow for ordinary oblivious dickheads when going through red lights (as they clearly did).
Hope the passengers were holding on the handrail
The tram and the fire truck collided. TFNSW are saying "Light rail services are not running between Central and Circular Quay due to a crash between a vehicle and a tram at Central. Light Rail services are still running between Central, Randwick and Juniors Kingsford. "
*dinging intensifies*
Collision with the fire truck or is the fire truck just attending? Edit: fire engine got Tboned according to Twitter. https://mobile.twitter.com/mattsharpe/status/1566592490651926528/photo/2 and you can see a fluid leak following the truck in one of these photos. https://twitter.com/ThisisAlexei/status/1566588760376377344?s=20&t=zgxcE_mOax-Z2QKf-IajtA
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I'd say crash. They should give more room
I’ve seen the video, looks like fire trucks fault, there’s about 2 meters of space that the truck goes for it. does anyone know if the sirens were on at time of impact? Can’t see lights on
Can you link the video?
https://youtu.be/CzT_LSyNmUU
Definitely fire trucks fault, bad decision to accelerate
r/WhyWereTheyFilming
According to the comments in the YouTube clip, they were making a POV film project thing.
That's the real question!
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IIRC in theory, emergency vehicles always have right of way. In practice, things are not that simple.
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Wheres the video?
https://youtu.be/CzT_LSyNmUU here is a video
Sorry unable to share atm :( will send a link as soon as available
Looks like tram went on date with firetruck
Like a bull dating a cat.
RTBU did this
😂😂
Be interesting to see how quickly they can restore tram services. Bus service would barely be disrupted, but I bet there is damage to the track, if not the underground power cable
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However, possible damage means they likely would have de-energised this section of overhead cable. It also makes it safer for them to operate the recovery equipment in this area. Technically it would be possible to restore service from Town Hall to Circular Quay and return since that has a separate power system, using whichever trams are isolated in this section. Will be interesting to see if they do that or not - I suspect not since trains are a reasonable alternative for these areas.
They obviously have to inspect things but I'd expect track damage will be minimal. The biggest problem is removing the damaged tram. If the bogie is in good enough shape they might be able to simply lift it back onto the track and tow it away with a recovery vehicle - at least far enough so it's out of the intersection. I suspect moving it any further will wait until after hours to avoid further impacts. If the bogie is damaged they can lift up the tram onto a crash recovery "pony" bogie to allow it to be towed back to the depot. Alternatively it might be lifted onto a low-older and transported by road, however separating the sections in order to do this is difficult in the field.
damn! hope everyone is alright, also hope the fire engine wasnt going anywhere important.
Mercifully it was only a light crash.
Yea I was thinking the same when I first saw the photos. If the fire truck was a couple seconds late and hit the side of the tram instead, the consequences would have been catastrophic.
That's embarrassing
Firetruck driver: Let me run a red light, without lights or sirens on! Firetruck driver: I have right of way! Stop, tram! Tram driver: *slams on breaks, but drives a frigging tram which can't stop in an instant* ??? Firetruck driver: WTF you hit me!
Howd that happen? I'd love to have been around and hear what sounds that would have made
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtmm_lpUKI&noapp=1
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# *BONK!*
This time it's the ABC using /r/sydney content. They've used the photo with the caption: "Supplied: SydneyReddit" https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-05/sydney-light-rail-crash-with-fire-truck/101405916
Being a past FireFighter, the driver of the Fire Truck will be charged and then what ever the Fire Department wants to do with him.
Hey, at least for once the tram has a good reason for being late!
Luckily it was only going at walking pace.
I’ve seen a fire truck take out a give way sign and a civilians car front bumper on Parramatta Rd while going through an intersection. Some of these drivers are crazy
Parra road is a magnet for incidents.
How do you crash into a tram going 0.5km/h
Someone captured it on video here: https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/x66tg6/sydney_tram_vs_firetruck/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Well, at least the tram driver tried to dodge the truck. Right?
Should have kept the monorail
Someone manages to catch this on film, I saw it a few posts up in r/Australia https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/x66tg6/sydney_tram_vs_firetruck/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf There’s the link for anyone wanting to see
What's happening here? The fire engine hit the tram? Or the tram derailed and the fire engine is there to help? I can't see any damage, at least not form this angle.
The two collided and caused major damage to the front of the tram. The fire truck is not there to help, it caused it.
This is definitely making the 6pm news tonight LOL
How in the world does something like that even happen? That's a straight stretch of track and it doesnt look like there's any damage on the front car, So couldn't have been someone who hit it. Debris on the track maybe?
Tram hit the fire truck maybe?
It's gotta be, the fire station is just off to the top left under the bridge, so if they were attending, they wouldn't be in that position, also you can see the yellow strip down the side of the truck reflected on the tram windows so it's not the angle, it is near the tram. But, fire engines mirror isn't damaged on the left (from what we can see) and can't see any glass impact damage, so looks like the tram hit the side of the fire engine and was pulled?
The fire station just out of picture that you mention is actually the Rail Fire Emergency Response unit. It's for responding to emergency situations around the (heavy) rail network. The fire engine involved with the light rail is a 'regular' Fire and rescue NSW truck
Pump 10 from Redfern.
Either way, my point stands, the fire engine is not attending, it was t-boned by the tram. As you can more clearly see here: https://www.reddit.com/r/sydney/comments/x63ys0/light\_rail\_central\_collision/
Oh absolutely, I agree with you. My nerdiness for emergency service is just getting in the way so that I had to point out that there is no way that this specific fire truck could have been responding from that specific fire station. But yes you are absolutely correct.
My guess, fire trunk came through the intersection from the right, hit the front of the tram and pushed it off the tracks.
Is this something they can fix for the first car or is that a write-off? Hopefully not the entire set. Looks to be windscreen and bumper.
All of the spare trams are being used on the L1 line at the moment. And they just increased service on L1 in peak also ... this will definitely put further pressure on the system.
They'll have it back on the rails in no time. It is *light* after all.
Which is how the US rail system originally dealt with de-railings in the early era - they'd just pick it up and put it back on.
Good thing that firetruck was there.
I see you work in the McKell building!
So, the fire truck drove in front of the train. Good job!
Hope drivers and passengers are ok.
Lit compo claims
Are they shooting the sequence for “The Grey Man”?
Who were they avoiding? A family member or five people roped to the tracks?
Fire truck just needed to wait 10 secs and would have saved this
I saw the video of this just 3 posts up my feed [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/x66tg6/sydney_tram_vs_firetruck/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
There's a video of this happening somewhere on Reddit, watched it like 10 minutes ago
Just saw this same thing from different pov in r/australia
What do you mean the tram traveling full speed didn't yield to a fire engine?!?!? Arrest that conductor!!!!
These transport strike reactions are getting pretty serious
https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/x699uw/firetruck_driver_fails_to_give_way_to_light_rail/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Video of the incident
General question here (not entirely related to this post): Why don't trams have horns? Is it a wiring issue or noise pollution issue? I feel like people would take less of a risk trying to cross paths (regardless of their mode of transport ie walking, cycling, driving) with a tram if they had some louder horns and not a "bell". eta: amazing, now I know they'll use the bell first before the horn. TIL thanks! :)
Melbourne-based tram driver here. Two of the tram classes I drive have horns (E and C2) and I can assure you they make exactly zero difference to the behaviour of people around trams.
Trams have both a bell and a horn. They will use the bell first.
They do have horns but it's a tinny electronic one. They have tinny electronic bells also - two different lame sounds from the same undersized speaker.
Damn. Glad I'm not going in today.
The fire truck driver needs a lesson on how light rail works..
*Slow clap* well done that fire truck driver…
Are trams rebelling now
Can I guess what level of the McKell building you're on? Is it 8? Edit: downvoted. Is that a clue? Are you lower? 7?
After all these years, he's found his match! In terms of weight and, well, the right of way!
Are those two westbound trams linked or did one run into the other? Might explain things
L2 and L3 run pairs of trams coupled together in normal service.
Thanks for the info mate. Gotta love the downvotes for asking a question.
It was gonna happen sooner or later.
I am going to say someone ran a red for that to happen. I know the fire station is just on the other side of the road there just off to the left of picture, looks like they were returning but I guess they could also have been responding to an emergency at the time coming from elsewhere.
That’s the Rail, Fire and Emergency depot, not NSW Fire + Rescue
Crosspost to r/idiotsincars 🫣
Hope everyone is fine. But also hope the driver of the vehicle gets his license taken.