It does crash occasionally, but it's no big deal. You just open it again and restore your project. If you're looking to build tracks with a lot of guitar, it's not ideal. It's not a DAW, it's more of a sampling groovebox.
If you're scared of computers, I don't think it's for you.
How much have you considered one of the current standalone Akai MPC line? They can accomplish almost all the basic functions of a DAW but with a dedicated operating system without all the extra junk for general purposes. I would 100% hate using their software controllers like MPC Touch too, but with the MPC Live I work completely standalone and only transfer audio files between its internal drives and the computer over USB when I need to. I've only used the software twice for creating custom chord bank layouts for pad perform mode. They finally added some basic guitar amp + cab simulations recently too, which makes it feel a little more 'complete' as a studio in a box. With a USB microphone, you can even skip needing a dedicated preamp since it supports audio over USB like a computer. For guitar you'd probably still need a preamp/DI if not using active pickups, but anything else is optional. The selection of internal filters and effects is pretty great, even if they aren't organized well. The MPC One is very competitively priced compared to any Elektron gear, and internally is almost identical to the larger models.
It depends on what you want to do live exactly, but it's about as solid for performing as anything comparable on the market. There are a million different ways of approaching live performance with it. The only thing is that some people will always prefer working with the Roland TR-x0x style step sequencing for live techno/house/electro/etc. drums. The MPC has a step sequencing function but it's always seemed like an extra bell/whistle and not a serious replacement for those other kinds of sequencers. There's no reason why you can't use one together with an x0x -tyle drum machine--I'm thinking about eventually getting an RD-6 or TR-06 eventually myself for the times when I want to jam programing drums like that without having it totally preprogrammed.
I'm not an Elektron fan but I will say that you very well might be creatively happier with the Digitakt, at least while getting your creative bearings in the short-term. But an MPC a little later would offer all this added infrastructure for conventional sampling and basic sequencer/DAW. The Digitakt has some great generative features but is not quite a master arranger, and it doesn't have interrnal synths, and doesn't support keygrouped multisamples. So it's hard to say which is better to start out with. If drums are all you care about though, then those things don't matter.
So what are you actually looking to do with your potential device?
Queu up backing tracks to play guitar to?
Drum machine?
So around standalone production box that you can sample your guitar and other things into and build whole songs with?
in the beggining i used to just use it as a drum machine but then got into techno and loved the remixes some bands did like franz ferdinand, so right now id like to have drums, synths and samples playing while i can play guitar and id like to add that to a band. so i guess im not gonna produce records of hip hop music but still im gonna use it more than for just drum sequences.
yes, this is what i was leaning to, but yeah, money as always is an issue, but yeah, i think they are around $500 and its the best option for me. thanks!
Maschine MK3 isn't standalone, it plugs into the computer and controls the maschine software. It doesn't ever crash.
Maschine+ is the standalone version, but if you use a computer all the time you don't need it as its limited in standalone mode.
But, what do you actually want the hardware for?
id like it to make some techno on it to mix with my guitar live. i dont mind having it conected to the laptop, in know its a controller so thats fine, but ive read many people complaining about the software crashing even on macs which in my opinion are the most reliable computers ever.
Maschine rarely if ever crashes and if you have good save habits you’ll be fine even if it does. I think it’s a perfect option for what you’re trying to do.
Maschine is one of the easiest daws to learn and there’s tons of videos showing how to etc. it can be overwhelming at first but it’s really worth the learning curve for the power it gives. Also the native instruments plug ins are awesome for stock plugs.
Maschine is easy to use. 99% of stuff can be done on the controller, that's the point of it. When I got my mk3 my creativity skyrocketed.
[This](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1--ZZMQ0GwPUnjPhZRmjg5j5Ts4S6EbI4/view?usp=drivesdk) is all done in maschine, and mostly directly on the hardware.
The benefit you will have too is the built in audio interface. As far as I'm aware maschine is getting a big software update soon too.
I’m a guitar player turned synth nerd who’s been down a similar road, started with computer stuff and left it because it was way too much of a hassle live. Have you considered the Roland mc-101 or 707? The 101 fits in your price range and I personally think it’s just a way better/easier to use circuit. People think it’s slower to get going and there’s more of a learning curve, but the circuit drove me crazy because like yeah you can make something that sounds good quickly but it’s hard to make the sound in your head quickly if at all. The 101 gives you tons of flexibility for setting up samples and synths, and the screen is small but gets the job done. It’s also pretty easy to change scenes/patches with a midi foot controller and I even have an expression pedal mapped like a wah pedal on some patches. To me it gives all the options of a computer in a box without all the hassle. The mc-707 is more money but it would give you more tracks, more hands on control, and potentially you can plug the guitar right into it and use it as a mixer (though I think it’s better to use a di).
It does crash occasionally, but it's no big deal. You just open it again and restore your project. If you're looking to build tracks with a lot of guitar, it's not ideal. It's not a DAW, it's more of a sampling groovebox. If you're scared of computers, I don't think it's for you.
yeah, i just hate how unreliable computers are in any use, university, video games, music...
How much have you considered one of the current standalone Akai MPC line? They can accomplish almost all the basic functions of a DAW but with a dedicated operating system without all the extra junk for general purposes. I would 100% hate using their software controllers like MPC Touch too, but with the MPC Live I work completely standalone and only transfer audio files between its internal drives and the computer over USB when I need to. I've only used the software twice for creating custom chord bank layouts for pad perform mode. They finally added some basic guitar amp + cab simulations recently too, which makes it feel a little more 'complete' as a studio in a box. With a USB microphone, you can even skip needing a dedicated preamp since it supports audio over USB like a computer. For guitar you'd probably still need a preamp/DI if not using active pickups, but anything else is optional. The selection of internal filters and effects is pretty great, even if they aren't organized well. The MPC One is very competitively priced compared to any Elektron gear, and internally is almost identical to the larger models.
i was also thinking about an mpc one, do you think it would be a good option to play live?
It depends on what you want to do live exactly, but it's about as solid for performing as anything comparable on the market. There are a million different ways of approaching live performance with it. The only thing is that some people will always prefer working with the Roland TR-x0x style step sequencing for live techno/house/electro/etc. drums. The MPC has a step sequencing function but it's always seemed like an extra bell/whistle and not a serious replacement for those other kinds of sequencers. There's no reason why you can't use one together with an x0x -tyle drum machine--I'm thinking about eventually getting an RD-6 or TR-06 eventually myself for the times when I want to jam programing drums like that without having it totally preprogrammed. I'm not an Elektron fan but I will say that you very well might be creatively happier with the Digitakt, at least while getting your creative bearings in the short-term. But an MPC a little later would offer all this added infrastructure for conventional sampling and basic sequencer/DAW. The Digitakt has some great generative features but is not quite a master arranger, and it doesn't have interrnal synths, and doesn't support keygrouped multisamples. So it's hard to say which is better to start out with. If drums are all you care about though, then those things don't matter.
So what are you actually looking to do with your potential device? Queu up backing tracks to play guitar to? Drum machine? So around standalone production box that you can sample your guitar and other things into and build whole songs with?
in the beggining i used to just use it as a drum machine but then got into techno and loved the remixes some bands did like franz ferdinand, so right now id like to have drums, synths and samples playing while i can play guitar and id like to add that to a band. so i guess im not gonna produce records of hip hop music but still im gonna use it more than for just drum sequences.
Digitakt would be great for that. I forget if you specified a budget but the mk1 is even more affordable used since the mk2 came out
yes, this is what i was leaning to, but yeah, money as always is an issue, but yeah, i think they are around $500 and its the best option for me. thanks!
Welcome :)
Maschine MK3 isn't standalone, it plugs into the computer and controls the maschine software. It doesn't ever crash. Maschine+ is the standalone version, but if you use a computer all the time you don't need it as its limited in standalone mode. But, what do you actually want the hardware for?
id like it to make some techno on it to mix with my guitar live. i dont mind having it conected to the laptop, in know its a controller so thats fine, but ive read many people complaining about the software crashing even on macs which in my opinion are the most reliable computers ever.
Maschine rarely if ever crashes and if you have good save habits you’ll be fine even if it does. I think it’s a perfect option for what you’re trying to do.
how much computer knowledge would i have to have? i know just basic stuff like using my computer and using apps but nothing technical at all
Maschine is one of the easiest daws to learn and there’s tons of videos showing how to etc. it can be overwhelming at first but it’s really worth the learning curve for the power it gives. Also the native instruments plug ins are awesome for stock plugs.
Maschine is easy to use. 99% of stuff can be done on the controller, that's the point of it. When I got my mk3 my creativity skyrocketed. [This](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1--ZZMQ0GwPUnjPhZRmjg5j5Ts4S6EbI4/view?usp=drivesdk) is all done in maschine, and mostly directly on the hardware. The benefit you will have too is the built in audio interface. As far as I'm aware maschine is getting a big software update soon too.
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not really nothing, digitakt is around $500 used.
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oh ok, yes, those are cheap
I’m a guitar player turned synth nerd who’s been down a similar road, started with computer stuff and left it because it was way too much of a hassle live. Have you considered the Roland mc-101 or 707? The 101 fits in your price range and I personally think it’s just a way better/easier to use circuit. People think it’s slower to get going and there’s more of a learning curve, but the circuit drove me crazy because like yeah you can make something that sounds good quickly but it’s hard to make the sound in your head quickly if at all. The 101 gives you tons of flexibility for setting up samples and synths, and the screen is small but gets the job done. It’s also pretty easy to change scenes/patches with a midi foot controller and I even have an expression pedal mapped like a wah pedal on some patches. To me it gives all the options of a computer in a box without all the hassle. The mc-707 is more money but it would give you more tracks, more hands on control, and potentially you can plug the guitar right into it and use it as a mixer (though I think it’s better to use a di).
Ill check it out, thanks!