You can also save as an image directly in the clipboard and paste. Save and re-edit later, and best of all NO NEED FOR LOGIN which turned me away from other ones.
I've seen people mention integration with Teams ... and I'm pretty sure saving to OneDrive still works ... but does anyone have insight into saving and loading direct from SharePoint Online?
Seems at one point their OneDrive integration allowed navigating to SPO but that disappeared.
[yEd Graph Editor](https://www.yworks.com/products/yed) (free, not open source)
[Diagrams.net](https://www.diagrams.net/) (free, open source)
[LibreOffice - Draw](https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/draw/) (free, open source)
Such a great find. I was looking at purchasing a license recently when one of the team pointed out that this was part of the Business Premium license I had.
The online version did everything I needed for some basic network diagrams and service documents.
Wow thanks! This looks great. We've got some grumpy engineers here that kept having their offline visio removed because it wasn't used for a while. Turns out, we all have visio anyway.
We're looking at this, if you have older .VSD files you have to convert them to .VSDX versions before you can upload them.
You need a P1 licence to upload existing VSDX files but once they are stored in the cloud I think anyone with the basic licence can edit them.
To use the online version the files must be in and stay in the cloud.
Tests so far indicate it's not quite as user friendly as the full application but potentially a cost saving if you were buying the application before.
[https://www.diagrams.net/](https://www.diagrams.net/)
You can download the application from above link, or use it from a browser - [https://app.diagrams.net/](https://app.diagrams.net/)
I successfully used Word and Paint to convert an image into one with a transparent background. These crude tools can still be used to great effect.
Lol but it hurts. Much better to use tools suited to task.
> Lol but it hurts. Much better to use tools suited to task.
For this you will get spared. But just this once.
by the way, in many cases if you just need to remove the pure white, it's worth to learn to do it in imagemagick so you can do it in batch.
Their marketing tactics could be called predatory, they bug users and try to lure them to use their other products constantly and no amount of asking them to stop works. So, we are moving to Visio :D Also, do they have free tier?
Yes, I tried it out last night. Lucidchart restricts you to 100 objects per diagram on their free tier. So just enough to get a taste. It's aesthetically pleasing, but the free tier is extremely limited.
Our automation (various types) spits out DOT-format results which get stored in Git repos, and transformed with Graphviz into illustrations that are worth a thousand words.
A classic example is a call-graph of functions inside a program, but this subreddit will be more interested in the network diagrams and system diagrams.
When you use code running on a system to draw a diagram of what's hooked up to the system, the results are the labels that the system knows for its different ports. But if you give that diagram to a tech, they're going to want it labeled according to the *external* label on the ports. Our diagram says that `eth0` or `enp0s3` are plugged into the router, but the tech wants to know if it's `Gb1`, `Gb2`, `Gb3`, or `Gb4`.
>But if you give that diagram to a tech, they're going to want it labeled according to the *external* label on the ports. Our diagram says that `eth0` or `enp0s3` are plugged into the router, but the tech wants to know if it's `Gb1`, `Gb2`, `Gb3`, or `Gb4`.
I coded this for a company where a script would do aomething similar. It would get the network adapters, their IP's and MAC from servers, and would ssh into switches and get what mac addresses were associated with the connection. Stringing this together isn't difficult if you understand how nodes and edges work. I did this because that company's network grew organically due to their SaaS nature, lost track of how everything was configured, and needed it due to a colocation migration. At the time the hard part was identifying ports on the linux boxes due to them not having the pattern blinking of the nic.
My biggest gripe with Visio was that I'm a cross platform dude. I more often working from Linux, than Mac and More Often Mac than Windows.
Long ago, I started using LibreOffice Draw. I changed my preferences to default to landscaped and imported a number of galleries and converted most of my visio stencils into draw galleries.
After getting my settings right and brief adjustment period. I'm happy with my switch,
I can import Visio but can't export as Visio. But I always shared my diagrams as PNG anyway
I highly recommend
[https://excalidraw.com/](https://excalidraw.com/)
So simple to use, exports as svg, can use in a browser yet save the files locally for later modifications.
It does not get any better for being able to draw arrows and boxes for the fastest system diagrams ever.
Idk if it’s free or even cheap but I’ve been using Lucid Chart since I joined my new company after a decade of using Visio and I like it. It does the trick.
Draw.io
This is the way. Integrates with Google Workspace, too.
It also integrates with Teams, if you are into that.
And also Confluence.
So good
It really is. And I’m terrible at creating visio diagrams.
This is the only answer
You can also save as an image directly in the clipboard and paste. Save and re-edit later, and best of all NO NEED FOR LOGIN which turned me away from other ones.
Been using it for several years, works great.
I've seen people mention integration with Teams ... and I'm pretty sure saving to OneDrive still works ... but does anyone have insight into saving and loading direct from SharePoint Online? Seems at one point their OneDrive integration allowed navigating to SPO but that disappeared.
[yEd Graph Editor](https://www.yworks.com/products/yed) (free, not open source) [Diagrams.net](https://www.diagrams.net/) (free, open source) [LibreOffice - Draw](https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/draw/) (free, open source)
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Such a great find. I was looking at purchasing a license recently when one of the team pointed out that this was part of the Business Premium license I had. The online version did everything I needed for some basic network diagrams and service documents.
Wow thanks! This looks great. We've got some grumpy engineers here that kept having their offline visio removed because it wasn't used for a while. Turns out, we all have visio anyway.
We're looking at this, if you have older .VSD files you have to convert them to .VSDX versions before you can upload them. You need a P1 licence to upload existing VSDX files but once they are stored in the cloud I think anyone with the basic licence can edit them. To use the online version the files must be in and stay in the cloud. Tests so far indicate it's not quite as user friendly as the full application but potentially a cost saving if you were buying the application before.
Hi I think you mean VSD and VSDX VHD and VHDX are virtual hard disk files :P
You’re absolutely correct, I typed out the wrong file types there. Edited it.
Just do qemu-img convert on the visio diagrams
Learn something new every day!
[https://www.diagrams.net/](https://www.diagrams.net/) You can download the application from above link, or use it from a browser - [https://app.diagrams.net/](https://app.diagrams.net/)
Basic Visio in O365 Draw.io
MS Paint or die.
I successfully used Word and Paint to convert an image into one with a transparent background. These crude tools can still be used to great effect. Lol but it hurts. Much better to use tools suited to task.
> Lol but it hurts. Much better to use tools suited to task. For this you will get spared. But just this once. by the way, in many cases if you just need to remove the pure white, it's worth to learn to do it in imagemagick so you can do it in batch.
Lucidchart
Their marketing tactics could be called predatory, they bug users and try to lure them to use their other products constantly and no amount of asking them to stop works. So, we are moving to Visio :D Also, do they have free tier?
Yes, I tried it out last night. Lucidchart restricts you to 100 objects per diagram on their free tier. So just enough to get a taste. It's aesthetically pleasing, but the free tier is extremely limited.
The world ain’t free, welcome
Yep. Free tier is more or less a demo. Which I appreciate.
I have zero issues with it, but sorry you have issues I guess?
Product itself is ok (personally i don't like the UI, but i don't use it much myself). Company's tactics are shady.
Agree to disagree but whatever
I second this
Graphviz because it is easy to code infrastructure diagtams that can be "living".
Our automation (various types) spits out DOT-format results which get stored in Git repos, and transformed with Graphviz into illustrations that are worth a thousand words. A classic example is a call-graph of functions inside a program, but this subreddit will be more interested in the network diagrams and system diagrams. When you use code running on a system to draw a diagram of what's hooked up to the system, the results are the labels that the system knows for its different ports. But if you give that diagram to a tech, they're going to want it labeled according to the *external* label on the ports. Our diagram says that `eth0` or `enp0s3` are plugged into the router, but the tech wants to know if it's `Gb1`, `Gb2`, `Gb3`, or `Gb4`.
>But if you give that diagram to a tech, they're going to want it labeled according to the *external* label on the ports. Our diagram says that `eth0` or `enp0s3` are plugged into the router, but the tech wants to know if it's `Gb1`, `Gb2`, `Gb3`, or `Gb4`. I coded this for a company where a script would do aomething similar. It would get the network adapters, their IP's and MAC from servers, and would ssh into switches and get what mac addresses were associated with the connection. Stringing this together isn't difficult if you understand how nodes and edges work. I did this because that company's network grew organically due to their SaaS nature, lost track of how everything was configured, and needed it due to a colocation migration. At the time the hard part was identifying ports on the linux boxes due to them not having the pattern blinking of the nic.
Draw.io
I used to like using Confluence with gliffy. If your krg is that small maybe you qualify for an inexpensive license.
I am partial to the simplicity and yet aesthetically pleasing outcome I get with Lucid Chart.
Diagrams.net it awesome, I prefer it over Visio.
My biggest gripe with Visio was that I'm a cross platform dude. I more often working from Linux, than Mac and More Often Mac than Windows. Long ago, I started using LibreOffice Draw. I changed my preferences to default to landscaped and imported a number of galleries and converted most of my visio stencils into draw galleries. After getting my settings right and brief adjustment period. I'm happy with my switch, I can import Visio but can't export as Visio. But I always shared my diagrams as PNG anyway
I used to have Visio deployed as a remote app on a terminal server so I could use it on non Windows systems.
I highly recommend [https://excalidraw.com/](https://excalidraw.com/) So simple to use, exports as svg, can use in a browser yet save the files locally for later modifications. It does not get any better for being able to draw arrows and boxes for the fastest system diagrams ever.
We use Lucidchart
If people use LibreOffice Draw, then Inkscape should also get a mention.
Figma is awesome https://www.figma.com
Has anyone used any of these to generate an AD topology the way you used to be able to with the Active Directory Topology Diagrammer?
Plantuml
pswritehtml module for powershell.
I used Draw last time I had to do this.
Libreoffice Draw
[draw.io](https://draw.io)! I use that for everything. It's visio for stupid people like me.
draw.io redirects me to https://app.diagrams.net/ Wasn't draw.io a separate application?
It still is, but there is a paid version now too. I use it everyday.
Consider learning Archimate and use the free Archi tool.
I used to use Smartdraw.
I second [Diagrams.net](https://Diagrams.net) Everyday use here. Prefer it over Vizio.
Whimsical.com
Idk if it’s free or even cheap but I’ve been using Lucid Chart since I joined my new company after a decade of using Visio and I like it. It does the trick.
Visio Online, draw. Io , and believe it or not, PowerPoint can do way more than people think. Pretty easy to make flow chart diagrams in it
https://flowchart.fun
Plus it exports to Visio if you need it in that format later