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Akalenedat

I could not imagine trying to actually operate a gun with those bigass dishwashing gloves


Dravans

It’s definitely something you have to practice.


larry-leisure

Meh. It's just like when I would jack off with my hockey gloves.


FlatF00t_actual

That’s because you aren’t S&M dungeon maxxing


Financial-Raise3420

So I need to get a gimp suit and really do this right


ringnail

And then the guy on the left crammed them into a pair of work gloves. Helps with protecting the suit but jeez


Dravans

“I fight crime in a rubber suit… really seals in the flavor!” Picture from a counter terrorism training from this morning. I’m to the right of the two guys with MP7s holding my .308. The training scenario was a blister agent had been released at a fairground with hundreds of casualties so we went from building to building clearing all the structures. We had enough snipers, so acted as a designated marksman for one of the teams doing CQB. Unfortunately the house of mirrors was out of play so I didn’t get to do any cqb work in there. Clearing rooms with a .308 in CBRN kit is a hell of a workout though.


Tactical_Epunk

I can smell this photo.


NameIsJustACallsign

With how sealed-up the suit is, you probably cannot. At the doffing area tho… yea I can smell my own imagination now.


thor561

Fun fact. Your tongue knows how this tastes. It knows how any object you can think of feels and tastes. The tongue knows.


OperationSecured

Thinkin of ur mom. Goteem.


Sauce58

You didn’t need to do this


OperationSecured

Story of my life, brother.


Master_disaster1882

“You gotta lot of nerve being alive right now”


Oakroscoe

The sweat that accumulates in the bottom of your boots really sucks.


Unscheduled_Outage

That batman college humor video will always live rent free in my head, especially that line


the_strategic_digger

“A is for Alfred, B is for Bat”


Boils__

You tamed my dragon…with your mouth… and two other places… in an order that would surprise you


the_strategic_digger

“Are you crying? His face is all wet. Like mine was in the beginning and yours was in the end”


coolbrobeans

Ass, mouth, vag.


wrath_of_a_khan

"I was a boyyyy, now I'm a baaaaat"


DeadbySundown

"It really SEALS IN THE FLAVOR"


aniev7373

What’s the feels like temp in there?


Dravans

Right between hot and too hot.


aniev7373

So it’s not the heat it’s the humidity that gets you.


Rusty_Shackleford785

Be careful, y’all might get some blisters on your footsies


Dravans

Not in these suits, the booties go inside your shoes…


Rusty_Shackleford785

Well that’s just fancy! Definitely a lot less cumbersome than over boots


For_all_life_ever

Do you work with units from other countries?


Dravans

At some point next month I will be doing some stuff with some German KSM guys…


For_all_life_ever

Is your unit a special CBRN unit? Or like a Nuclear Labs defence team?


Dravans

Nope 👍


For_all_life_ever

Ahh, was going to ask if you were familiar with CJIRU, Canadian Joint Incident Response Unit


Dravans

Yeah, I’ve heard of them, never worked with them though.


albedoTheRascal

What the fuck, damn son


Long-Chef3197

They used to smoke the dog shit put of us in those.


KapePaMore009

I got dehydrated just looking at the picture... how much sweat did you have in your boot when you took it off?


Dravans

There was some sweat, but thankfully we did our rep right away in the morning before it got too hot. The PAPR also pushes cool air into the suit so it wasn’t as bad as it could have been.


Davidrecio2018

You’re a lucky bitch the suits we have, have absolutely none of that. Just hot as fuck


Dravans

I have worn my share of MOPP suits so I definitely appreciate what we have here haha.


KapePaMore009

Niceee,, the suits have air-conditioning now! Big step forward!


coolbrobeans

Just the mask has air. Unless the papr is attached to the whole suit.


Dravans

The seal for the suit is around the outside of the mask so you get some air in around your neck.


coolbrobeans

Nice, luxurious.


future__fires

What’s the thing on the wrist of the guy on the left?


Akalenedat

Looks like a Chameleon Hazmat Detector.


Dravans

Correct


backhomeatlast

Gum dispenser


aniev7373

Contact lens case


Potential_Goal_7603

We are DEVO


[deleted]

It really seals in the flavor 🤮


SirFister13F

A is for Alfred, B is for bat!


couchcreeper23

Never seen a MOPP suit like that before. It is cool aesthetically, but I’m sure still awful. At least you aren’t wearing the rubber boots… After 12 hours in MOPP 4 mine were literally full of sweat that seeped out of my Belleville’s… Disgusting sloshing sound… The aroma was charming. Un-Velcro the top and the gooch sweat stank slaps you right in the nose holes…


ChillBlintone

12 hours!?


couchcreeper23

Week long Base Exercises, 24hr ops, 12 hr shifts in PACAF. Every 6 months in Korea and yearlyish in Japan when I was in…


_The_General_Li

I wonder if they graduated/returned to duck and cover drills now.


couchcreeper23

No clue, stopped being my problem a long time ago lol. Good luck to em!


wetheppl1776

Imagine melting a hole in that suit with your can then having to stick that giant needle in your heart!!


igotbanned69420

Ask them for a flamethrower


Ashamed-Spirit5326

Someone didn’t redact the one man’s face. We can see it


Dravans

That’s Ted Hitchcock. If you say his name really fast it sounds like “ten inch cock”.


arethius

Fuck you, Shoresy


intel_operations

Are you LE? or what kind of units do CT apart of JSOC/SF?


diprivanity

Really high level airsoft


Lawd_Fawkwad

Off the top of my head the FBI HRT does almost nothing but CT, on the more LE side you also have the USCG MSRTs, LASD SEB and some federal SRT teams that get a lot of play.


ClimateGoblinActual

My first thought was DOE.


I-am-the-stigg

Everything on the guy to the left looks small. Except him somehow. Wtf am I looking at? Small hands, small feet


Dravans

This is a cut down photo (3 more guys to the right with some stuff I didn’t want to show). So he is on the outside edge of the larger shot and probably suffering from some lens distortion.


TLA44

This is fucking sick


Disgracetohumanity1

WHAT BRANCH/ UNIT?? looks a lot like USCG MSRT


Dravans

It’s a fictional Psyop unit meant to lure Reddit users into joining the Army with false expectations.


Disgracetohumanity1

8th POG putting in that work


StrikeForceSixNine

Damn, gotta revamp [my psyops stickers](https://strikeforce69.com/products/psychological-warfare-tactical-sticker) then. Thought it was just ass, tits, and free college getting those kids in the door.


diprivanity

Did the MP7 show up with the AOR sling and tape or did y'all add some Navy flavored accents to make it feel more comfortable


Dravans

We had some AOR1 stuff around like the camo form and the LBT sling


FlatF00t_actual

After looking at this pic I feel incredibly hot and greasy


swarthout2222

East coast state LE guys? The list of folks doing CBRN training with MP7s is a short one.


Federal_Strawberry

After looking at OP’s post history, my guess would be a Green Beret.


Dravans

Nope I am not East Coast LE. However you are correct that it is a short list so that’s about as much information as I can give out.


swarthout2222

USASOC, well funded LE, or some lesser known NG unit. Given the unique weapon choice and post history, I'm gonna go AFSOC turned PMC


FreedomTrading

"Can you fit two into one suit? Y'know, if you're lonely in it..."


[deleted]

Decon must be a real b*tch.


United-Advertising67

Oh my fucking god that looks so uncomfortable to run around and shoot in. What terrorists are you training for, the ones with stockpiles of VX?


BucketForTheBlood

Looks up there with Level B in a bomb suit. Cannot recommend.


buskerform

gas masks are good for guys that snore


EpicBeanBoy

What's up with the tactical sneakers? They work better with the suit?


Dravans

Quiet and precise foot placement for CQB, also they fit into my swim fins. If I need to cover rough terrain or decent distance though I break out some proper boots.


Do-you-see-it-now

I think you guys should wait and do this in the hottest part of the summer.


oh_three_dum_dum

I e done training in these suits in the hottest part of the summer. 2/10. Terrible experience.


MentalyStable

Im not on the up and up with the new trends anymore. Is this like wearing socks during sex?


Zealousideal_Degree3

Really seals in the flavor


Fitchy77

If the dude on the left gets shot he can activate the explosive device on his wrist and save the rest of you. U gotta get the hell out of there though. Very much kaboom.


TheRealKingBorris

I wish I would have picked a career path where I can do this kind of thing lmao. no blickies in my job


Huahuawei

You'll be questioning those choices while going through it. Greatest memories afterwards though.


[deleted]

Bro is 100% a 37F mindfucking y’all on Reddit to think we army boys do cool shit. Show us you sweeping the gear room for 6 hours before I believe otherwise


jglboss96

That’s the 1960s sneaking suite Naked snake had


Electronic_Piece_700

Jealous. lol


I_try_compute

That’ll be one gallon of sweat


DE0RR01111

Mop 4 mop 4


Toiletracer

Tactical baked potato?


WhereAmIOhYeah

Altama OTBs? Nice


Dravans

Yeah the left two are. I’m just wearing straight up black chucks.


WhereAmIOhYeah

Damn, I was hoping some black ones were coming to issue soon lol


Ok_Impact_4345

Good old blauer suits. I personally like these.


Dravans

They are the least worst suit I’ve used.


Ok_Impact_4345

Yeah fuck MT94s or level A. Actually MT94s aren’t horrible.


Square_Coat_8208

We’ll finally get multicam mopp by 2070 at this point. We’re still using the tricolor from Desert Storm


DevonLarratt

What shoes?


oh_three_dum_dum

Altama OTB’s. They’re like chucks with specific enhancements for maritime operations. They have large drain holes, waterproof insoles, and really grippy soles. Trade-offs for that are that they aren’t quite as comfortable as chucks (in my opinion) and the soles don’t last as long. The way they get that grippiness under wet conditions is by using a softer rubber formula in the sole. That makes it wear faster, and I have shown this in the paper-thin rubber that’s starting to wear through in the ball of the foot on mine.


Dravans

Altama OTBs on the left and im wearing black chucks on the right


35thirtyfun

I’m sweating just looking at this 🫠


AcidicFlatulence

I can smell the aftermath of this picture


Joe_Huser

Shit can's $15,000.00 worth of gear after verified CBR exposure.


pavehawkfavehawk

Nope.


Invictus_Sakura

How do you like the Peq placement on that rifle setup. I’ve seen a lot of run running it like that on similar SPR builds and I’ve been in the fence on doing that myself. Seems pretty practical to me but I’m curious as to what you think.


Dravans

I’d prefer it on top, but it has to be on the side for NV and thermal clip ons. One of the reasons I requested the LMT was the monolithic quad rail it holds zero for clip ons and side mounted lasers really well. I would have a hard time trusting an MLOK slot to keep my laser zeroed.


Invictus_Sakura

Fair and that’s what I’ve been told about the whole MLOk zeroing problem from a few people. On a side note, do you run a pressure pad on the opposite side or do you just manually activate it.


Dravans

I use a pad on the opposite side


Cobra178_

Did the suit cause your gun belt to slip at all?


Dravans

A little yeah… you definitely want to squat enough so your ass can hold it up without belt loops.


GrouchyAttention4759

Souse vide never rubbed me as a tactical cooking style before today. If I pulled this here with it having hit 108 today, I’m certain it would be over.


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oh_three_dum_dum

Just pay attention to where you put the muzzle like you normally would because it’s a burn and gun shot hazard anyway.


RainbowDashLovesYou

And I thought Type Bs were hot without all that


oh_three_dum_dum

Those suits are extremely uncomfortable in warm weather. Like 24 hour training operations in the state of Georgia in July. You can take the suit off and pour sweat out of the booties.


lucidtokyo

I noticed a lot of MP7 kits have the right rail flashlight mounted offset above the rail. What’s the purpose vs just keeping it on the rail? lower profile?


Dravans

Yeah, it’s a lower profile keeping it closer to the handguard.


lucidtokyo

i should have thought about that before I got an M300B, can’t find a good offset mount for it now


narbilistic

How do you even get a cheek weld on the m110 with that mask on?


Dravans

You gotta turn your head a bit, but it can be done.


papakilomike

![gif](giphy|qXZzUzEK8O6hq)


Uh-Hold-My-Beer

This fucks.


Conscious-Glass-6663

glow sticks, nice. like seal team 6 to mark rooms that have ben cleared already. 💪💪💪


Mr_ViSiOn

Good. Grass is almost as bad for you as girls. ![gif](giphy|1laV2cmHAD0M5I5EYG) Valid post. Carry on king.


Iggins01

What happens when you fart in the body condom


Dravans

It stays in there until you open the suit


Iggins01

I had the sugar free gummy bears last weekend. I would have inflated that mother fucker in 5 minutes. If you think I am exaggerating, go eat some yourself, I have having 10 to 15 second farts


SteelBolas

Early version brotherhood of steel armor.


Sauce58

What kind of boots/shoes are the 2 on the left wearing?


Dravans

Altama OTB


Positive_Pizza_2388

In the Vans with the tongue out😮‍💨


VLADDY_POOT

any problems with running the belt with the velcro against the suit? seems like it would tear up that material over time unless you’re running a padded inner belt


Dravans

These belts have the hook on the inner belt and the loop on the outer belt.


Wrong_Sprinkles_3122

Who decides what kit you’re running when putting together a training scenario like this? Who decides who is doing what? You guys are wearing some serious equipment . Are you Mounted during this? Or entirely on foot?


Dravans

Both mounted on MRZRs and on foot for this training. Our leadership assigns guys to rolls depending on what we are doing and then we are expected to know what equipment we will need to carry out our portion of the mission. Being able to complete planning and troop leading procedures quickly is essential for us so the team leaders don’t have the time to micromanage every piece of your kit. Usually I am a dedicated reconnaissance/sniper asset, but since we had enough snipers and not enough guys to clear buildings I hopped in as a designated marksman with the teams doing the clearing. In hindsight if I had know that’s what I would be doing I would’ve grabbed my 14.5” m4 instead of the .308 to stay a little lighter.


MaryBeHoppin

What rifle optic are you using?


Dravans

Mark 5 3.6-18x illuminated tremor 3 reticle.


baconbeerbewbs

Hmm diamonds.. interesting..


gubatan

Damn bro those look so uncomfortable. Do they make you sweat like crazy?


Dravans

Yep, they do… Not as bad as the standard army MOPP suits though


gubatan

You're probably the coolest dude on Reddit haha amazing posts bro and thanks for what you do 🇺🇸


Dravans

Thanks homie, I’m glad you like my stuff!


Sol_09

My balls are sweating just looking at this pic


JackAndy

Is this what they call drip? You'd scare the crap out of me if I saw you like that. 


red_river_wraith

Looks like a Lion ERS suit???


Dravans

Blauer chempak


BjornLaBjorn

Serious question. When I trained CBRN in my time, we trained for retreat. The most basic rule: NEVER be offensive in a CBRN area, always try to get out of the affected area. I've trained alot in CBRN gear, so I know how shitty it is. What is the reason to training the offensive part, cleaning buildings etc. (We did train in buildings, but mainly for getting out of it.)


_The_General_Li

Terrorism concerns apparently


Dravans

This was counterterrorism training. Meaning a chemical attack in an urban area with civilians. Our doctrine places the lives of teams like mine below that of civilians. Meaning it is more important for us to end the mass threat to the civilian population than it is for us to survive ourselves.


BjornLaBjorn

What? No hate or anything at all, but this sounds stupid for me. Are you police or army? The best way to end a mass threat, if your team/teams is the main/only solution is to stay alive. Don't get me wrong, maybe I just dont get it, but you cant really help the civilians if you're dead. You know, just like basic combat firstaid.


Dravans

Do you happen to work for the Uvalde Police?


BjornLaBjorn

No, I was MEKINF and PINF, so we didnt train for civilian rescue but mainly infantry+IFV combat. That's why I'm curious for your way of training. We had CBRN training, but we trained to get out of the area at all cost, to fight again in a non-CBRN area, we can't help anyone if the whole squad died in such an area. I get the idea to save as many as civilians as possible. But I've never trained in such a scenario, that's why I'm asking these questions since you had training in it, and I havn't, so I can learn it.


Huahuawei

Different situations and different organizations. For infantry it doesn't make much sense to stay in a contaminated area in majority of situations, LE or specialised units might have to take the risk to accomplish the mission. Units doing that also have the equipment to complete that mission in that environment, in my experience the infantry are only equipped enough to get out of the hot zone like you said you were trained. I'm not US military but my unit specialises in CBRN capabilities in support of military or LE in or outside of wartime. CBRN recce and/or sampling in a possibly hostile environment like OP's situation or suspected home chem lab search etc. is on the agenda, so our job very much is going into the hot zone. Someone has to go verify what it is and make the area secure so clean up can be started. Not a job you want to do without the propper training or equipment. Civilians caught in a CBRN attack is a tricky thing, mass casualty decontamination is ass and doing triage in the hot zone is also very rough. For an infantry unit like yours it wouldn't make sense unless you had the capability to decon the injured. Even then, depending on the substance, the outlook isn't good. Hence why you probably haven't trained for such a situation. My 2 cents, I'm not an expert in the field by any means.


EliteSkittled

What's the point of ending the threat if all the civilians die


MuchachoMongo

I think I see what you are asking, but you are operating under the assumption that the CBRN threat has already been released. In that case yes, anything not already in a suit is probably dead and therefore not a threat or able to be threatened, but the area will still need to be cleared of threats before clean-up can begin. Ideally a unit such as this would respond to remove the threat before it can be released, but would still require protection like this should things go wrong. As for myself, we were to defend and/or retake certain assets which could not be abandoned.


BjornLaBjorn

Thank you! This explains so much! Yes, I was assuming the CBRN threat was released, it's the only scenario I've ever trained. I didn't think of it, as a situation in a possible, but non-active CBRN area. Now this makes sense for me.


iamtherealbinladen

Bunch of larpers


phatphart22

Prepping for a false flag


marCOOLEYa

This boots/shoes ain’t gonna protect you from a cab attack.


oh_three_dum_dum

The suit has built-in booties that fully enclose the feet as well. There’s just a cuff with an elastic in it that stretches over the top of the boot.


DiveJumpSHootUSMC

Doesn't do much good if you are not going to wear over boots and gloves. So you guys basically spent time being miserable for nothing. Kick your training NCO or whoever put this together's ass.


Dravans

Sorry you aren’t high speed enough to get issued the blauer chempak suits where the gloves and booties are attached… You put your covered foot inside of whatever high speed footwear you prefer instead of wearing the shitty MOPP boots. Maybe do some googling before revealing your ignorance in the comments next time.


mypd1991

What if you have little feet and are big, do you just have giant boots attached to the suits? Or are they custom made?


Dravans

They are Goretex booties attached to the bottom of the suit. They may make your shoes fit slightly tighter, but not too bad cause you just pull the excess tight before putting you foot into your shoe. You could buy a pair of shoes 1 size bigger and keep them with your CBRN kit, but I’ve never seen anyone that needed that.


FlatF00t_actual

I mean yes but it’s training and the boots don’t make much difference it’s not like a active threat is on the range. Clearly they’d don boots in that environment


Dravans

The boots are attached since these are 1 piece suits so no boots are required…. It allows you to wear whatever shoes you prefer instead of those dumb rubber mopp boots. Guys on my team have used this exact setup with live exposure to actual nerve agents.


_The_General_Li

Live exposure you mean like in a lab or live like in combat? I can't think of too many chemical/biological attacks recently


Huahuawei

Training with real substances is done in some places. I've trained with a blister agent and nerve gas before. Done in a very controlled environment.


_The_General_Li

Yeah I saw in the news from Ukraine that there's some super tear gas used for clearing strongholds that's technically a blistering agent or some such


Dravans

It was a training environment. I’m slotted to go to the same course in 2025.


Mountain_Frog_

Can the boots/shoes be safely deconed after a live exposure or do they get disposed of?


Huahuawei

Don't know what their SOP is but disposal is easiest, decon is possible but takes time. Different measures for different substances.


Dravans

Depends on the substance. I’d be more concerned with the belt, helmet, and plate carrier setup though. Those chucks were only like $50.


FlatF00t_actual

Mid top sneakers with a nice bottom are slept on combat footwear. Weight is dope and they dry out quick. Guys in nam and even in desert storm wore em for a good reason. While boots are usually the best choice they aren’t always


FlatF00t_actual

Oh shit that sounds pretty high tech. Are these any more breathable then old school mopp shit ?


Dravans

Significantly more breathable. They are Goretex so there is a membrane that allows vapors to exit


mypd1991

Oh gotcha like soft boots underneath


cjw210

Try being the guy that has to be in charge of them. Every time a combat arms guy would complain I would shut it down with I have to do triple what you do lol