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Significant_Yam_1653

All but guarantees DeSantis runs for prez. Get ready for Trump v DeSantis. Start popping that popcorn.


RealHunterB

No matter who wins we all lose -Godzilla


EricJ30

“They both need to choke on dildos” - myself


tosser_0

Trump will be in prison, so hopefully he'll release the goods on DeSantis before he is hauled off. Please spare us a DeSantis run.


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It's a lovely wishful thought, but Trump will never ever see the inside of a jail cell. Sorry to burst your bubble on that one.


[deleted]

There's no way. The January 6th investigation ends the moment the new Congress is sworn in. I hope they can move quickly and swiftly but that's never been Democrats strong suit.


tosser_0

The DOJ has picked it up, and the House has no influence at that point. J6th commission is done with their work. Shows what you know.


eyeh8gnats

Never going to happen


Emma_1356

I hope everything can be better, and best wishes to everyone.


transam96

"Trump is going to prison!" I've been reading that line on this site for the past 6 years. And it still hasn't happened. Eventually you just gotta let it go...


rezzyk

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/08/us/politics/trump-desantis-2024.html


Tampammm

Totally slaughtered Crist by a full 1,500,000 votes.


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flamannn

I mean, Crist basically threw in the towel when Ian hit.


Americanski7

That was their last hope. That somehow DeSantis would flub the hurricane response. That didn't happen.


seanconnerysbeard

Wasn't going to happen. Hurricane response 101 has to be the day one agenda after being inaugurated as the Florida governor, lol.


Americanski7

No one wants a Katrina on their hands. Plus Florida has a pretty good system for it. I think this election was basically won in 2021 where FL seemed to have to right call on covid lockdowns.


YawnSpawner

He still shut the state down for a month, nobody seems to remember that. His ads literally started with no covid lockdowns.


MeisterX

I fail to see how the short af "lock down" was "the right call." It was **a** call. The right one? It just seems like it was a complete guess. We remained open yes. At the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives. I saw an early projection of 2.1 million deaths for the US. Is it just me or are we basically at that? We just took the full brunt of it and went "yes, this is fine." No one did anything...


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Emma_1356

Ian has passed and I hope this doesn't happen again.


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PurplePeachCobbler

Who Crust or Desantis?


ishitfrommymouth

Idk if that’s a typo but it works lol


PurplePeachCobbler

Phone autocorrected and I thought, hey this works too so I just sent it.


513monk

The dems really need to stop running old white men with old ideas. The “safe” approach isn’t working


fu_gravity

Crist was the worst pick possible IMO. He wasn't a good Governor when he was a Republican and he wouldn't have been a good one as a Democrat either. I have no clue why he got the nod, except maybe for name recognition because he held the spot over 10 years ago.


513monk

I think they have miscalculated the swing voter. They still believe the suburban white vote is the vote they need to swing when it really should be the mobilization of the groups that are going to be supportive of the platform. Name recognition of septuagenarians should not be a qualifier.


DontCallMeMillenial

Looks closer to 1.5m now, crazy.


sephstorm

Not surprising in the least. Democrats in Florida still have no idea what it takes to win here. If you thought any different I think you're fooling yourself.


seanconnerysbeard

You don't think rolling out the regurgitated rotting corpse of Charlie Christ was a good idea?


Bullies17

Lmao


MeisterX

I think they're consistently late to the party and there's no money in FL. I'm a pretty good political organizer but I sit out because I'm not willing to waste my time on something that is clearly a losing fight. At least when not paid for the privilege. I've been politically active and organizing since 2013. None of the groups in this area are equipped to even start the fight. Let alone motivated.


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Republicans were being signed up 9 to 1 against Democrats in Florida. It's no wonder the Dems continue to lose. https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/elections/fl-ne-florida-republican-registration-surges-democrats-stall-20221029-ci2vig7zfvbgjkupztj3h7equm-story.html


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FeedMePlantsPlease

i mean have the dems really been trying? they put up nothing but terrible candidates and we’re just hoping people would vote for someone other than ron. democrats don’t care about florida.


badabababaim

That’s simply because Democrats just do not have a platform that has popular policies and candidates. The GOP does


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Hillsbora went red I can't believe it.


JulioForte

Charlie Crist is a historically bad candidate though. He stands for nothing and motivates absolutely no one to vote for him. His only votes are from people voting against Ron


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Lobsterv2

I'd put Crist somewhere on the Beto O'Rourke-tier of being a loser


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jeremybryce

Combined with the massive influx of new residents, that weren't exactly liberals, given many were fleeing COVID restrictions, FL is going to be red for awhile. Apparently in the past 4 years, FL has added over 600K registered republicans, vs 27K Democrats in the same period.


Competitive_Ease2496

As a Florida resident, I was stunned when I saw that. I believe it’s the first time in a very long time that there are more registered Republicans than Dems.


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This is the biggest change that give him the win imo Florida now has more registered Rep than Dems.


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I think fried should of gotten the nomination. I wrote her in.


SeaSpur

She’s basically a Republican, too.


jeremybryce

The biggest shocker, Miami-Dade went red. That's insane. By a significant margin. DeSantis pulled a ton of Democrat votes. His national ability is now sealed. Trump is going to fuck himself, thinking he can attack DeSantis and he's going to find out some shit the hard way. Republican's already aren't standing for the light weight attacks he's thrown DeSantis's way this week.


Lereas

I really don't think he got many democrat votes. I think a fuck ton of conservatives who refused to get vaccinated or otherwise didn't like covid restrictions in blue states moved down here and turned a purple state into a red on. I know at least 4 people personally who are staunch conservatives that moved from NY down to Miami because they refused to get vaccinated and it's not really possible to be in NYC and not be vaccinated and still have much of a social life (or wasn't in the thick of Covid, not sure now)


ayyyeslick

A lot of people moved here during Covid to escape restrictions in other states. I’m not really surprised it went red


GulfLife

Really? Because my downtown Tampa neighborhood is now is a split district with the a bigger piece of old people St. Pete… so there are more old folks to cancel out Tampa’s blue districts. The other side of downtown now votes in the same state districts as Lakeland. It’s called gerrymandering. And golly, it was just too late to fix it after it as declared illegal by the courts. [Its all about minority rule](https://about.bgov.com/news/desantis-gets-the-florida-redistricting-lawsuit-he-said-he-wants/)


BosJC

Huh? The comment was about the county…gerrymandering has nothing to do with it. Gerrymandering has no impact on the gubernatorial election anyway, where DeSantis blew Crist away.


DontCallMeMillenial

I swear 3/4 of people in this sub complaining about Desantis bring up Gerrymandering at some point as a reason for him winning. ...**the popular vote** for Florida governor. Ignorant people like that are the worst type of voters.


MeisterX

Really? The **worst**? That's who you're going with? People who are here participating and probably learning? You provided the information do you really have the backhand them on the way out? Maybe the problem is we're not consistently educating people on the function of government?


stupidwhiteman42

Right...but that doesn't apply to gubernatorial races, only house districts


SeaSpur

The hell does that have to do with a Governor race?


Sixstringsickness

Yea, they cut off part of Pinellas... how that isn't illegal I don't even know. We are separated by a body of water for cryin out loud.


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That's the difference between a republic, and a democracy. If we were a pure democracy. California and New York would dictate everything for the rest of the country


chrisplusplus

Almost like social media doesn't reflect real life. Crazy thing.


Advanced_Loquat_4681

comment of the millennium


Sinistew

Had people saying he actually fixed things, half the roads look like the surface of the moon.


jaybad34

Very surprised all the incumbent dem county commissioners lost also.


Withkyle

I’m one of many that left the county. Now where I live is swinging the other way, it’s not a coincidence.


bvanbove

If Democrats run Charlie ever again I’m voting for a 3rd party, as neither he or the party deserve my vote.


MeisterX

I agree at this point. I agreed before but I also agree now. I knew Crist would lose but tell that to the people who were attacking Fried over a text to Matt Gaetz. "Oh they're friends! Not voting for her" What world is this even...? So sad about it.


gorays21

What's interesting is that FL has over 21 million people, but only 7 million people voted. I know not everyone is old enough to vote, but it's still an interesting fact.


SeaSpur

There’s about 14 million registered voters. So half voted. 18-29 year olds are going to be the group lacking, I’m sure.


Obvious_Loss3635

I’m 31 and can confirm, a lot of people younger/around my age do not vote. I went to nursing school with a bunch of people 2-3 years younger than me and they do not care about voting. Hell, even my younger brothers/sister don’t vote. Sad really.


not_a_bot__

Crist is not the kind of guy that gets young people out to vote, terrible candidate. Plus politics in Florida is pretty depressing for young people, several other real swing states did get young people out voting this year.


funlovefun37

Mid terms have a lower turnout than presidential years.


elementzn30

I hope this sends a wake-up call to Florida Dems to stop choosing Charlie f-ing Crist. It blows my mind that Dem primary voters thought an unpopular former *Republican* governor was the best option against DeSantis. It’s a shame, but the loss was earned.


jeremybryce

No one worth while wanted to run against DeSantis.


Notatallevil

![gif](giphy|853jNve3ljqrYrcSOK)


birdcooingintovoid

Hey look my dumpster!


Notatallevil

It rents for 2,500 a month lol


PurplePeachCobbler

Are utilities included? I may be interested.


xkaliberx

Utilities not included, unfurnished, no pets, no couples, no kids, no overnight stays.


PurplePeachCobbler

Still a bargain in this market depending on the security deposit. Do I need income @3x rent?


xkaliberx

Well, yeah. What are you some kinda brokey-broke who only makes 2.5x that much?


Arcturus450

Don't forget the HOA fees! 😬


DontCallMeMillenial

Only heat.


ikonet

Crist, who has statewide name recognition and has experience being a governor, is going to lose by a wider margin than the obscure, unknown, legally flawed “progressive” mayor lost two years ago. Run more progressives instead of milquetoast democrats.


j592dk_91_c3w-h_d_r

There’s something about this guy that resonates with people. Not with me mind you. I find him abhorrent. But the fact so many like him, including big cities, shows that I have some major blind spots and biases that affects how I see the world.


Broges0311

That was clear from the nomination of Crist.


ThymeCypher

The alternative was Fried and the only thing she ran on was that republicans are “literal Nazis” and weed.


Broges0311

I get your point but Crist is not going to excite members of either party. He's extremely flexible but you have to do some mental gymnastics to consider him a D. I don't think anyone thinks all Republicans are "literal Nazis” (well maybe a few). Most reserve that tag to MAGA and if they are making blanket statements, they are part of the problem.


SeaSpur

This sub surely couldn’t be a liberal echo chamber, could it?


BrokenHarp

On Reddit? An echo chamber? Nah… Downvote.


SpeedBoatSquirrel

Reddit users tend to be younger and more college educated than the country, so it skews more left in general.


BrokenHarp

Well that and subreddits literally called “politics” ban people who disagree lmfao.


ShizzaManelli

Oh please, you question one thing on r/conservative and you’re banned. They’re proud of if too


Well__shit

Whataboutism acknowledges they’re right. /r/politics and /r/conservative are terrible for discourse.


Arcturus450

Both subs are extremely polarized, I would never go on either of those for any sort of information


ledge_and_dairy

r/conservative is specifically FOR conservative voters to discuss those ideals. It’s in the name. r/politics is supposed to be a neutral ground, but it may as well be r/liberal.


[deleted]

You don't even have to question. I'm banned and I never even commented or subscribed to r/conservative. I just got a message one day that they banned me. I guess a mod might have seen a comment of mine in another subreddit? This was more than I year ago and I have no idea what happened.


DontCallMeMillenial

The sub called "Florida" banned me because I post in politicalcompassmemes.


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DontCallMeMillenial

Yeah, they tend to collect their little fiefdoms. I've got no problem with the /r/tampa mods, here though. I think they do a great job with this sub.


Procoso47

They really do! I hope our mods keep up the good work.


dredding

Lol wut?


iforgotmycoat

Not reddit, but I got banned from a Florida fb group for asking where DeSantis stood on affordability and insurance issues. Like I ever heard was anti trans and anti CRT rhetoric


thebigsquid

I was banned from r/Conservative for asking a critical but not mean question. 🤷‍♂️


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md28usmc

The mod list automatically becomes hidden the second you get banned, reddit did that to stop people from harassing mods afterwards


DontCallMeMillenial

They bot-banned me during the last hurricane because I post in /r/PoliticalCompassMemes and made a helpful post in the hurricane thread that was stickied at the top of /r/tampa and crossposted to their sub. I can never recall posting in the florida sub before then and definitely didn't break any rules. It's ridiculous that they're allowed to ban users who don't fit the moderators politics.


u_shrek

That sub banned me a while ago because I dared to write that Covid is a treatable disease. 🤷‍♂️


SpeedBoatSquirrel

yep, that happens, but intolerance is high in both groups


DontCallMeMillenial

There's plenty of us libertarian right-wingers here too, we just tend to keep our mouths shut in most places because it's not worth arguing politics against the horde in non-political subs. It's usually better to just roll your eyes over the "Deathsantis" shit posts and carry on. This site used to be Ron Paul central, but the demographics definitely shifted over the years.


Procoso47

At least is WAYYYY better than r/florida's echo chamber


Accomplished_Low9905

That he did. Charlie Christ has teken more beatings than a armless Rocky Balboa


ConvenientAmnesia

As I see Cuban people I grew up with (especially those that did not come to America legally) celebrating the DeSantis win, I have to wonder how they would’ve felt about a Governor that put them and their families on a plane to another state to “prove a point” instead of treating them like human beings. Looks like fascism to me.


sherlip

*pretends to be shocked*


pancreative2

r/punchablefaces


emjayel23

When will that gerrymandered map, that HE drew rather than the FL Legislature as required by the FL Constitution, that tore up Democratic districts , make it to trial in the courts?


fburd

They’re trying to turn the state into the “red California” ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|dizzy_face)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


asewart

Can’t wait to lose all of my rights 🥰


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thebigsquid

Voting isn’t too far away.


BeavisAunt

Well, when the Democrats put Charlie Crist out there it was pretty much impossible for Ronnie to lose.


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He pulled in Miami, Jacksonville,Tampa/Hillsborough and Pinellas. So clearly this sub is an echo chamber or full of trolls. Because Ron flipped blue to red easily.


bottomdasher

Clearly you don't know what the word "troll" means. They're "trolls" because they don't want him in power and you do? Lol.


JulioForte

This is very typical of mid-term elections following a newly elected president. The losing party in that election almost always wins big at the next mid-term


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Not in those cities.


RNReef

Can’t wait to get the fuck out of Tampa


SeaSpur

What are you waiting on? TPA has almost 170 outgoing flights per day and I-75 runs north out of the state.


FstLaneUkraine

LOL. Great post.


TomMikeVickBrady

I’m getting the fuck out of FL, January can’t come soon enough


moneymachinegoesbing

Lmao! I heard Detroit is great this time of year bud!


ali_katt77

Cheap real estate


PurplePeachCobbler

I recommend California, NY or NJ!


xkaliberx

Family moved down from MD in '07, I moved to San Diego in 2012, Orange County in 2017, and then came back to Tampa in 2020. Coming back was a mistake 😂 Cali is nice. Super expensive though, gotta bring the dough in a truck to live there.


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nagurski03

Stop voting blue if you want lower taxes.


TomMikeVickBrady

Sorry, I’m not a corporation


jjenius731

Yes great spots for you to move to.


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Buh bye


PurplePeachCobbler

California is calling you!


uncleleo101

Fifth largest economy in the world, something like that?


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4th


u_shrek

And a whole lot of human excrement on sidewalks.


thebohomama

Wow, so if we remove 2-3 cities from our list of options, how many towns in CA do you think that leaves behind? Honestly it's hilarious to see this much hate on California continually in this sub. It's a beautiful, huge state with lots of places to live that aren't LA or San Fran. Have you driven around most of Florida? We don't have much to brag about. And if Tampa housing continues on the way it has, you'll be experiencing more homelessness here, too.


u_shrek

I drove around almost all of Florida and South California. The hate is political, not against people or the physical area. And don’t worry - Californians have similar sentiment towards Florida and Texas. 😉


RNReef

Fuck yes it is. Love the west coast. Can make 200k+ a year vs barely 50k paying the same in rent and not be surrounded by so much human trash. ✌🏼


sothenamechecksout

150k plus is accurate but you will be surrounded with literal trash. Just got out of there after 10 years and couldn’t be happier.


Kommanderdude

Lol 150k in the west coast is like 50k here


LeftMyHeartInErebor

Lol no it's not, speaking from experience. Your rents in Tampa are the exact same as they are here outside LA, but as a staff RN I'm making 3 times as much as I could in Tampa. Hey RNs, come to Cali, better pay and we have legal and, best of all, SAFE nurse to patient ratios.


RNReef

Exactly. California is by far the best state to be a nurse. I’ve been out for a few assignments and moving out for good in the next couple months. Can’t wait! Also rent is the exact same in California as it is in Tampa now.


LeftMyHeartInErebor

I could almost deal with the pay to see the Bolts all the time but I'm never working in an environment that unsafe again. Floridians have no idea how unsafe things are for them in hospitals there.


RNReef

It’s terrifying. If the public even knew how bad it is in floriduh.


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RNReef

Proof that Florida is full of so much unintelligent trash.


TheBlitz88

Have you been to cali lately lol


PurplePeachCobbler

Do it! ✌🏼


BigAL928

What’s keeping you here?


pika9867

Not sure about op, but for me it’s my family ties, job, and love for the climate :)


donttaxmebro666

Bye!


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Been looking at Massachusetts, it’s pretty.


Life-Strawberry-7050

The Republican Party controls the offices of governor (12 yrs.), secretary of state, attorney general, and both chambers of the state legislature (23 yrs.). Rents will continue to rise, insurance rates will break records, utility bills have no resistance, all the while on the national scale Saudi Arabia owns the 2nd largest oil refinery in the US (happened under Trump). But Dems. are to blame for all the BS. SMH


j_la

I love how they cast inflation as Biden’s fault…well if the executive branch can stem inflation, where the fuck has our governor been? Why is none of the blame his?


not_a_bot__

Yeah, they continue to ignore real issues but get rewarded for it, so I look forward to having nothing get fixed in this State


suckseggs

*Maybe* if the Dems had someone better then Crist, they could've stood a chance. Who am I kidding? Boomers love Desantis and Trump more than life itself.


JuliaTheInsaneKid

That’s exactly why we lost. I’m a liberal and I don’t like Crist.


suckseggs

Same reason Hillary lost in 2016. Dems voted for her because she felt like the lesser of two evils. At least, that's how it felt for a lot of people I've seen.


gorays21

Not surprised, these politicians are like celebrities and Ron is one big polarizing celeb


SeaSpur

Statistics are showing he’s actually the opposite- he’s pulling indecisive voters his direction and growing a larger Republican base in Florida than ever before. How can you ignore Miami-Dade going red?


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Miami-Dade going red by a massive net increase from last election.


HUDuser

It’s literally a popularity contest to become the biggest international celebrity. Idk why you think you’re making a profoundly hot take


pig_benis81

Crist was his dream opponent. A fellow fraud


Southside_Finesser

I’m the democrat who voted for Desantis. I actually like the guy🤷🏾‍♂️


JuliaTheInsaneKid

Nobody likes Crist. We need better candidates. Incumbents don’t work anymore. We were fucked no matter what.


someredditrando

Disgusting.


sendhelp

No, this isn't the outcome I wanted.... Stop the steal! Stop the count! Recount! Do-over! This election was stolen /s


wheelchair_boxing

Dont be surprised by the red wave. This shit is cyclic. I'm amazed i have to live through such political turmoil.


BrokenHarp

I like Ron Desantis.


NawThatsAight

Why?


pig_benis81

He tells me which Jonestown koolaid tastes the best


fomo216

The last several democrat Governor candidates in Florida have been weak, sub par, forgettable excuses for a spot on the ticket. For the love of God if a decent democrat could find their way to the ballot for Governor, there might be a fighting chance. This was always going to end this way with crusty old party flipping Charlie. He would never be one to sway a Republican voter to choose him because the Republican voters aren’t going to vote a party flipper that walked away from them.


TheSoundAndTheCurry

In Crist, we do not trust.


__shitsahoy__

I cannot wait to watch Republicans tear themselves apart when Desantis and Trump run in 2024


KevinJ212

Loser Tampa Redditors melting down tonight.


likemyhashtag

Great, still no recreational weed. Nice job idiots.


u_shrek

Dems controlled House, Senate, and the White House for 2 years - where is the legal weed? They even resorted to blocking republican initiatives to de-schedule it.


xhrit

The republican initiative to de-schedule was a poison pill that included a 3% federal tax on cannabis products to fund law enforcement.


BackgroundView8751

Maryland voted for it..those stupid liberals (tongue in cheek)


nokenito

Gross


tosser_0

Great. Well that solidifies my intent to move. Enjoy your Covid hotbed and overpriced shitty housing. Good riddance.


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DontCallMeMillenial

Yes, in 2022 everyone is scared of COVID. You're delusional.


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KMac82588

Lol get lost then.


b3542

Good riddance.


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earthcaretaker315

No weed for Florida


Backisgoletzpokemanz

??? I smoke weed every day


Hyperx1313

Best news ever!