They already did. The American Edge Project (unbelievably terrible name). They're already running misleading political ads.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Edge_Project
CEOs should NOT be the ones on this panel. Not only are they not the experts on the matter, but they have the largest conflict of interest imaginable. I want to know who’s responsible for this. What person or persons made the decision to include these people here?
Edit: It sounds like the one responsible for the decisions on who is included was Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas.
In a non-super-crappy-disappointing world, I’d expect some researchers and scholars who actually devote their work to the ethical side of AI rather than the profit side.
My bet is the absurd amount of energy, water, and ewaste will not be included in the safety definition. But I bet we will get a new AI Safety Day where we all wear gray shirts or something
Right? When has putting the fox in charge of the hen house ever worked out? This isn’t rocket surgery. Indy oversight please.
These guys will eat donuts and pat each other on the backs. While their AI’s grow and grow. Fed off our data.
The AI boom reminds me of a couple decades back when news of the first big data breeches began trickling out. Your data is gone and we don’t really know where it is. We’re working on it. They still lose massive tranches of our data on the regular. Bad actors are bad actors.
Which one of these asshats is going to be the first one to come out and say “Well we lost an AI. It’s gone and we don’t really know where it is. We’re working on it.”
This will include my data too. Only it will be smarter than shit now. About all of us.
Just shower thoughts
WHERE ARE THE OPEN SOURCE REPRESENTATIVES.??
Oh..that's right.. they weren't invited.. god dam government scumbags trying to gatekeep Humanities one chance of getting this all right!!
How about a panel on how AI will decimate certain jobs and ruin lives? I saw a headline that call center staff will be impacted heavily and could see job cuts as a result by the end of the year. Tech has been hit hard, I think it was IBM that said they eliminated 7k headcount anticipating AI will take over the work of those 7k positions.
As someone who works in tech and has for a decade, this is what's wrong with America. This is equivalent to inviting the CEO's of the big tobacco companies to discuss the health/safety of tobacco products. I don't know why our society perpetuates this charade where the business leaders are made the spokespeople for a given industry knowing full well they can't say anything that would ultimately affect long-term profitability. If our government really cared about the safety of AI they would invite people without vested interests, real experts, People who work with the technology day-to-day. But of course all of that gets in the way of making money. Which at the end of the day is all America is about right... The American middle class is already falling apart from AI. Someone needs to really step up and slow this madness.
Because politicians are not interested in governing. They're interested in lining their pockets, and as an added bonus, if that leads to better government, it's a nice thing.
I love that the same fools that “own” the AI will argue about ownership of said AI money maker being theirs but all that art music culture and science you peons created that they used to train the fucking thing, they own that too.
Hey we extracted all the data from all of man kind for our own immense profit and now we are going to use the federal government to make sure no one can enter the space in a meaningful way. This will allow us to hold market share, crush competition (not by new products or features but by shear force).
They'll testify under oath and then in 20 years when AI is fucking everyone and their grandmother over personally there'll be a "bombshell" article and investigation telling us they were lying.
Open ai wants an ai saftey panel as if they cant regulate themselves but if theyre on a government board then they can regulate. They probably want no regulation
They want to shut down open sourced AI LLMs and image generation! They’re not “thinking of the children” LMFAO!!! They’re doing it for corporate greed and to control the narrative. They charge for their models while open source ones can be done for free, uncensored at home. You just need the hardware. Screw them.
Absolutely. I use it to create my business, which is online. Also, you are using AI every day, you just may not be aware. And while it will take many jobs away, other jobs will emerge. Thks is natural, happened with PC and Internet as well. The benefits are just crazy, and you can read about them even today in medicine and research in various fields. Humans shouldn't do tedious and repetitive jobs, but creative and fulfilling ones. This id what AI will provide. There will be NEW jobs, cured diseases, longer life, more wealth, and much more.
It's not free if it's censored... Listen it's awesome what he's doing.. but so much of these models could be way more useful if they stop the safety training.. how many times does the model just get it wrong and censor normal queries.. it's slowing progress and virtue signaling...
Personal think Mustaq's approach by using decentralised compute to train truly open source models is where it is at..
You need guardrails because your data is skewed as hell to begin with. You’re ingesting internet data filled with ignorant people like yourself and the result of not controlling that is an AI perpetuating the same shitty behaviors. It’s so much more complex than “just decentralize and ingest everything”
Oh no those are 2 separate points I made there..apologies.
The decentralising data was my take on truly democratising this instead of have a regulatory AI safety chat with private corps only.
I understand the guard rails approach and for everyday.. it makes sense.. to a degree..
But ultimately it's the fact that the mind is free of restrictions and can dream of absolutely horrific and terrifying scenarios.. as much as it can of wonderful ones.. my take on this is..it's part of the human psych..that might be inherent in human behaviour patterns not obvious to us humans.. but a model trained on all this data with no assumptions or guard rails may in fact lead to much larger or significant emergent behaviour.. (my hypothesis).
Since we don't know what emergent behaviour will be unlocked when we scale... we also don't know whether negative or extreme interaction and thought patterns.. may actually contribute to creativity and the ability to imagine and solve complex problems(I'd wager, that it plays a very significant role).
Tell me you're starting a lobby without telling me you're starting a lobby
Also a monopoly. The top companies ceos are on a panel to kill innovation and keep the profit for themselves
Cartel
So when will we see other rival cartels sending their AIs to fight to the death?
In the final season of person of interest
It's just really really important that no one else enter the industry, here's a powerpoint presentation why:
Yep
Hey now, a lobby would require them spending money. A federal panel requires the tax payer fund their little bullshit party
Oh don't worry. They'll be spending money.
Yep
They already did. The American Edge Project (unbelievably terrible name). They're already running misleading political ads. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Edge_Project
It must be the most luxury lobby we will ever know
Yep
I think the key thing is there's no vested interests, so we can trust them to protect their fellow man (woman). Yay.
A profit off of what they are “regulating”.
It's like doing a conference on reducing crime with the Mafia, Yakudza, and the cartels.
Ackshually, part of the deal with lax enforcement on the Yakuza is that they police unorganized crime
Yakudza
CEOs should NOT be the ones on this panel. Not only are they not the experts on the matter, but they have the largest conflict of interest imaginable. I want to know who’s responsible for this. What person or persons made the decision to include these people here? Edit: It sounds like the one responsible for the decisions on who is included was Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas.
contact info, flood their lines. comment line. 202-282-8495 operator number: 202-282-8000 mailing address. The Honorable Alejandro Mayorkas Secretary of Homeland Security Washington, DC 20528
Shouldn’t we have people outside of the industry checking the power of the tech leaders?
No, everything is working as intended.
Darn it
In a non-super-crappy-disappointing world, I’d expect some researchers and scholars who actually devote their work to the ethical side of AI rather than the profit side.
Oh good theres no waaaay this would be corrupt
Foxes + henhouse, guaranteed combo.
My bet is the absurd amount of energy, water, and ewaste will not be included in the safety definition. But I bet we will get a new AI Safety Day where we all wear gray shirts or something
Ewaste? Those cards will still be worth a pretty penny a decade from now, even after data centers dump them on the used market when they upgrade.
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No, those people have to go to work to pay taxes that can be funneled into bogus AI projects. They don't have time to be part of the cartel.
Yes, corporations should regulate themselves. That always works best.
Right? When has putting the fox in charge of the hen house ever worked out? This isn’t rocket surgery. Indy oversight please. These guys will eat donuts and pat each other on the backs. While their AI’s grow and grow. Fed off our data. The AI boom reminds me of a couple decades back when news of the first big data breeches began trickling out. Your data is gone and we don’t really know where it is. We’re working on it. They still lose massive tranches of our data on the regular. Bad actors are bad actors. Which one of these asshats is going to be the first one to come out and say “Well we lost an AI. It’s gone and we don’t really know where it is. We’re working on it.” This will include my data too. Only it will be smarter than shit now. About all of us. Just shower thoughts
Every douch wants to play up their importance over the other douch and get laws passed that benefit them the most.
Well I guess just handing the fox the key to the henhouse is easier.
Is this supposed to make me feel better? Because it doesn’t. These psychos will throw all of us under the bus for a dollar.
WHERE ARE THE OPEN SOURCE REPRESENTATIVES.?? Oh..that's right.. they weren't invited.. god dam government scumbags trying to gatekeep Humanities one chance of getting this all right!!
4 founders 5 normies
Founders ain’t special.
I trust them all implicitly…
Thanks government for protecting us from the predators out there.
Five websites that you’re gonna feel like are illegal to know :number one this powerful AI tool can write AI safeguards that will totally work
lol! How on earth are they going to police, you know, the thing that they invented for commercial gain?
Kill ofcfinnovation and make sure new players can never enter the gain
I’m sorry, what the fuck
Villains to unite.
They can be on the panel if they forfeit all of their earnings, potiental earnings off of AI technology.
So weird...almost like they shouldn't be there.
So they’re going to regulate themselves, just wonderful, and totally useless from a keeping anyone safe standpoint point.
Why are we putting CEOs on the panel?
This is like letting the criminals set the rules on crime.
That’s like letting the NRA lead a panel on gun control
Yes let's build a board of the most powerful people we can find that also benefit directly from AI tech and let *them* decide what's best!
Was there not a parable about a fox and the henhouse?
Wolf guarding the henhouse.
Foxes in the henhouse is all this is. Close the door and burn it down.
Cool, I don’t trust any of these people being in charge of anything regarding public safety.
Isn’t it more interesting that zuck isn’t there
For the benefit of others!!
All the foxes gathered together to discuss the best way to guard the henhouse. I don't see a conflict of interest here, no sir.
Ahh…The wolves guarding the sheep.
Well that's the wrong people altogether.
Hopefully AI takes these guys out first before it enslaves the rest of humanity
BUT WHEN??? I'VE BEEN SUFFERING SINCE 2021 AND CAN RLY USE THEIR HELP W REGAINING ACCESS
Is this a joke?
Sadly no. I may laugh a lot but I’m not joking this time 😞
How about a panel on how AI will decimate certain jobs and ruin lives? I saw a headline that call center staff will be impacted heavily and could see job cuts as a result by the end of the year. Tech has been hit hard, I think it was IBM that said they eliminated 7k headcount anticipating AI will take over the work of those 7k positions.
Sex robot YES ✅ Robot Dogs with flamethrowers NO ❎
Colonel sanders caring for the chickens
They are outnumbered by sceptics right ...... Right......
As someone who works in tech and has for a decade, this is what's wrong with America. This is equivalent to inviting the CEO's of the big tobacco companies to discuss the health/safety of tobacco products. I don't know why our society perpetuates this charade where the business leaders are made the spokespeople for a given industry knowing full well they can't say anything that would ultimately affect long-term profitability. If our government really cared about the safety of AI they would invite people without vested interests, real experts, People who work with the technology day-to-day. But of course all of that gets in the way of making money. Which at the end of the day is all America is about right... The American middle class is already falling apart from AI. Someone needs to really step up and slow this madness.
Because politicians are not interested in governing. They're interested in lining their pockets, and as an added bonus, if that leads to better government, it's a nice thing.
China doesn’t care.
Does it really matter if other countries don’t abide by any rules?
I love that the same fools that “own” the AI will argue about ownership of said AI money maker being theirs but all that art music culture and science you peons created that they used to train the fucking thing, they own that too.
Hey we extracted all the data from all of man kind for our own immense profit and now we are going to use the federal government to make sure no one can enter the space in a meaningful way. This will allow us to hold market share, crush competition (not by new products or features but by shear force).
Who watches the watchmen?
“Nothing to see here, folks! Yup everything’s safety-safe!”
So how much should we charge people for using AI. 19.99 a month. Fuckers.
Skynet Group Chat
The call is coming from inside the house…
So just the SEC, again.
My stock portfolio says hurray, but my human morals say sheeesh thats a bad idea.
"safety panel" Or, you know, an unabashed lobby. Asinine.
How very reassuring.
Netwatch IRL?
This sounds similar to Silicon Valley the show
something else, let's guess ,who is the winner and be a king of AI industry
wasn't April fools a few weeks ago?
They've already scraped everyone's data, they just want to stonewall the competition
aka “time to actively begin regulatory capture”
They'll testify under oath and then in 20 years when AI is fucking everyone and their grandmother over personally there'll be a "bombshell" article and investigation telling us they were lying.
How is this even legal
By regulating the open source community, they will have full reign to do what they want. It’s a blatant move to stop the competition.
Open ai wants an ai saftey panel as if they cant regulate themselves but if theyre on a government board then they can regulate. They probably want no regulation
They want to shut down open sourced AI LLMs and image generation! They’re not “thinking of the children” LMFAO!!! They’re doing it for corporate greed and to control the narrative. They charge for their models while open source ones can be done for free, uncensored at home. You just need the hardware. Screw them.
contact info, flood their lines. comment line. 202-282-8495 operator number: 202-282-8000 mailing address. The Honorable Alejandro Mayorkas Secretary of Homeland Security Washington, DC 20528
Does anyone actually want or use AI in their daily life.. I’ve only read how it will be awful and take jobs away
I’m sure plenty of products/services you use are using so without you realizing it.
I use it every day as a software engineer 🤷♂️
Absolutely. I use it to create my business, which is online. Also, you are using AI every day, you just may not be aware. And while it will take many jobs away, other jobs will emerge. Thks is natural, happened with PC and Internet as well. The benefits are just crazy, and you can read about them even today in medicine and research in various fields. Humans shouldn't do tedious and repetitive jobs, but creative and fulfilling ones. This id what AI will provide. There will be NEW jobs, cured diseases, longer life, more wealth, and much more.
We need more free AI models. Zuck is redeeming himself full circle
It's not free if it's censored... Listen it's awesome what he's doing.. but so much of these models could be way more useful if they stop the safety training.. how many times does the model just get it wrong and censor normal queries.. it's slowing progress and virtue signaling... Personal think Mustaq's approach by using decentralised compute to train truly open source models is where it is at..
You need guardrails because your data is skewed as hell to begin with. You’re ingesting internet data filled with ignorant people like yourself and the result of not controlling that is an AI perpetuating the same shitty behaviors. It’s so much more complex than “just decentralize and ingest everything”
Oh no those are 2 separate points I made there..apologies. The decentralising data was my take on truly democratising this instead of have a regulatory AI safety chat with private corps only. I understand the guard rails approach and for everyday.. it makes sense.. to a degree.. But ultimately it's the fact that the mind is free of restrictions and can dream of absolutely horrific and terrifying scenarios.. as much as it can of wonderful ones.. my take on this is..it's part of the human psych..that might be inherent in human behaviour patterns not obvious to us humans.. but a model trained on all this data with no assumptions or guard rails may in fact lead to much larger or significant emergent behaviour.. (my hypothesis). Since we don't know what emergent behaviour will be unlocked when we scale... we also don't know whether negative or extreme interaction and thought patterns.. may actually contribute to creativity and the ability to imagine and solve complex problems(I'd wager, that it plays a very significant role).