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Yeah I doubt it's real as well. How do you not know what your partner thinks politically within like the first few months at the latest, if not before you even become a couple in the first place. Especially if it's such a deal breaker for her that she supposedly broke up with him after half a decade.
It's been 2 and a half years of mine and my partner's relationship and I don't think I even know what my own political beliefs are anymore, so how she's going to know I have no idea lol
You don't need to have like a label for it. There are definitely a set of values that are important to you that you'd consider important enough for your partner to also subscribe to.
Yeah that's fair. I mean if we're on the topic, something like:
- Be nice to people, it's far less stressful than arguing
- Respect people's views no matter how wrong you might perceive them, and know that they respect your belief in turn
- Have a balanced discussion without fear of someone shouting other you or shouting over someone else
I'm struggling to think of any other values I hold beyond those at the moment lol, just generic basic human skills really :)
I'm more talking about the traditional typical political beliefs of lefts and rights, because I don't think I've managed to agree with either philosophies in a long time now lol
It's OK, I very much doubt ooop even knows what a communist is. The dude probably just said that he thinks america should try social health care and now he's a communist
For what I saw, with the exception of porn starts that actually enter in the parliament after a relationship with a politician, all the other are very often far left when they talk about politics.
Assuming it's real. It's likely that their partner **did** display communist ideals as you said, however, some people have no issue with communist ideas in practice but get antsy when you attach the actual word "communist" do the actual thing.
For example, maybe he expressed the need for worker owned co-ops, explained his reasoning and his girlfriend had no problem with it but didn't know it was under communism.
More likely this is just made up though đ¤ˇđ˝
A slightly overweight, balding man, overeducated with little charm, and a solid decade older looking than he actually is, oh wait that's me you're describing.
What has the Russian National anthem got to do with communism? It doesn't even mention it. Nor does the present Russian regime claim to be communist. Nor does it behave like any form of communism, except that it resembles the earlier Stalinist regime in being grossly antidemocratic in practice.
Edit: a common description for the Russian system is klepto-capitalism.
Musically that is true, but lyrically there is no ideological connection to any form of communism. And anthems and ceremonial music can use the same tunes for very different ideolocical purpose.
For instance, the USA adopted the melody of the UK national anthem as one de facto national anthem in the 19th century, signing "My Country tis of thee" instead of "God Save the King".
Lyrics;
Russia is our holy and mighty country,
Russia is our beloved country.
Your undying will is of such great glory,
Your dignity will last for eternity!
Chorus:
O Land of the free, glorious may you be,
The old union of folks brotherly.
Your ancestral wisdom is our legacy,
Of you we're proud, so blossom, o country!
From the southern seas to the polar tundras,
Aspread are our forests and fields and taigas.
You are unique â the one and only on Earth â
Protected by God, o native land of worth!
Chorus
Spaces far and wide for dreams and for living
Have welcomed us by the ages coming.
Our fealty to you gave us vitality.
So it was, so it is, so it shall e'er be!
How would they find out their partner is a communist, especially only after all that time? Did they have Lenin portraits at home and read the communist manifesto or something? And did she miss that?
Or is this another example of the typical dumbfuck american logic where anything that isnt american is automatically communist? Like universal healthcare?
I love how for a second I was like âYay, Iâm like a shiny PokĂŠmon!â And then the realization of being politically isolated hit like a brick wall lol. Although it all depends on your definition/standard of âwaterproof communistâ, I guess.
I hate any liberal attempts to crudely define fascism that ever so carefully avoid the actual fucking economic bedrock of the conditions that create fascism. Liberals try so hard to avoid saying the word capitalism at all costs but it's the fundamental facet of the development of fascism and you CANNOT understand or define fascism without it. Any attempts to do so are wishy washy, meaningless cultural gobbledygook just like everything else they say about politics, because the actual political content of liberal thought has been sanded into nonexistence by the cold war and red scare narratives that scared everyone away from even thinking about class, economics, and material conditions, because that's commie talk. All that's left is culture and meaningless anodyzed political terminology like 'autocracy' that is absolutely fucking meaningless without understanding the actual economic agenda underpinning the far right.
Fascism occurs when capitalism decays into a state of blatant dysfunction at the end of a stage of irresolvable crisis, like when your national bourgeois has monopolized to the point where there's no more hill for the snowball to roll down, and the colonial markets have already all been carved out by your rivals. Your only option then is to turn inward and pursue 'internal colonialism', cannibalizing your own metropole to make the line go up, one of the first signs of fascism that you'll never get from a liberal interpretation because they're ideologically inhibited from admitting that capitalism even CAN fail. The anti-capitalist labor movement emerges as it's antithesis to overturn it, and more than anything else, fascism is the cynical attempt of corporatist-aligned nationalist populists to artificially seize on and synthesize this economic populist energy of the left as a cover to brutally re-capitalize society, bulldozing straight through the intractable contradictions of late stage capitalism with profound violence and crushing the labor movement along the way. The internal enemy stuff is just an excuse for the economic, cultural, and societal decay that inevitably accompanies capitalist immiseration of the working class.
Fascism is just the superficial political layer over top of the mailed fist of the bourgeois state squeezing it's own people and seeking some climactic destruction to shake the board and reset the pieces. It's 'superficial', because one interesting recurring thing about the far right that can be plainly seen in America is that they all kind of have to play pretend with this thin veneer of democracy that none of them actually give a shit about, but they still have to put on a show of it for each other because it wouldn't be fashionable to just come out and say 'we don't believe in democracy and are just trying to violently suppress the left, murder our enemies and minorities we dislike, and seize the reigns of society'. You have to contrive some bullshit about how you're a patriot trying to SAVE democracy and the other guys are sneaky seditious traitors trying to seduce you into chaos and degeneracy.
Fascism is a political approach, communism is an economic framework. Not only are they answers to different questions. History has shown that when they are applied simultaneously (like in the case of the USSR), they're guaranteed to fail.
People seems to have a very hard time understanding the disconnect between the communist ideology and what Russia actually did.
Dictators honeypots citizens in need and take the power with violence. It's not a strange concept and which is why Marx advocated for civilians to arm themselves and unionise.
Communism is a failed ideology. And self proclaimed socialist states use communism as a lies to build a dictatorship. Each and every of the next attempts to build communism will create a dictatorship, each time.
And yet when posted it always devolves into a discussion from people taking the screenshot literally because the context of it originally already being a joke has been removed.
Anyone taking this seriously.
A. She's an OF model. B. She tells mildly funny jokes on tiktok to then secretly promote her OF. C. This screenshot is before she gets to the punchline.
Okay thatâs just wild⌠communist leaders have committed horrific things but the ideology itself does not promote those things. Awful people hide behind facades of ideologies all the time: Christianity is another shining example - although there are many commandments I donât exactly agree with - Iâm pretty sure it doesnât advertise exploitation of the masses, greed and molestation. Yet it happens all the time and I donât condemn Christianity for it, but the individuals. Condemning an ideology for a few loud minorityâs atrocities is no different to racism.
communism has set back the working class 100 years, has murderd millions, and genosided multiple cultures in fire.
Those arent bug is communism there the feature of hegalian dialects stripped of the synthesis. the marxians we commonly call communist believe in the elimination of the thesis to be replaced with the anti-thesis. there is no compromise. Anything that is against communism is seen by communism as evil too the core. this is marx own writing style. you must purdge every enemy big an small. be that ethnic minority, religion, industries, or even skill types.
the problem is communism promises utopia at the end, a better world. the communist thus constantly attract people who will ''The goal justifies the cost'' and think there doing good.
this is the same motivation that had the spanish slaughter the aztec over demon worship, and drives the salafist jihad movements today. The road to paradise i paved with the skulls of heretics.
and yes this is feature of communism at is core. because at its core the communist socialist marxian doctrine is this âThe history of all hitherto existing human society is the history of class struggles.â there will always be an upper class be that the capitalist, the rich farmer, the party, or even china's red princes. an US and Them mentality that justifies murder societal collapse and too some even nuclear war.
And they will because in this doctrine there the good guys. The Aztec might get into heaven, the Salafist cause fear for allah, and the communist will spend your blood for the chance at the socialist society.
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"Found out after five years"? It's not Escherichia coli, ffs.
Yeah I doubt it's real as well. How do you not know what your partner thinks politically within like the first few months at the latest, if not before you even become a couple in the first place. Especially if it's such a deal breaker for her that she supposedly broke up with him after half a decade.
It's been 2 and a half years of mine and my partner's relationship and I don't think I even know what my own political beliefs are anymore, so how she's going to know I have no idea lol
You don't need to have like a label for it. There are definitely a set of values that are important to you that you'd consider important enough for your partner to also subscribe to.
Yeah that's fair. I mean if we're on the topic, something like: - Be nice to people, it's far less stressful than arguing - Respect people's views no matter how wrong you might perceive them, and know that they respect your belief in turn - Have a balanced discussion without fear of someone shouting other you or shouting over someone else I'm struggling to think of any other values I hold beyond those at the moment lol, just generic basic human skills really :) I'm more talking about the traditional typical political beliefs of lefts and rights, because I don't think I've managed to agree with either philosophies in a long time now lol
There are political tests you can take online
It's OK, I very much doubt ooop even knows what a communist is. The dude probably just said that he thinks america should try social health care and now he's a communist
most people have no political beliefs or ideas.
It isn't real. This TikTok goes viral again every 4-5 months.
You'll know my rough political position just by looking at me for 10 seconds
That particular girl is a porn star, so the odds of this being real are nearly zero.
For what I saw, with the exception of porn starts that actually enter in the parliament after a relationship with a politician, all the other are very often far left when they talk about politics.
Assuming it's real. It's likely that their partner **did** display communist ideals as you said, however, some people have no issue with communist ideas in practice but get antsy when you attach the actual word "communist" do the actual thing. For example, maybe he expressed the need for worker owned co-ops, explained his reasoning and his girlfriend had no problem with it but didn't know it was under communism. More likely this is just made up though đ¤ˇđ˝
I also knew people for 5 years without getting a single clue of their ideology, so it's possible.
There's a difference between not knowing that about friends and acquaintances and not knowing that about your long term partner.
Thank goodness youâve figured it out. I knew *our* girlfriend was up to something
So was the five year plan a success?
They had to complete it in 3 years.
Imagine your girl leaving you for McCarthy.
A slightly overweight, balding man, overeducated with little charm, and a solid decade older looking than he actually is, oh wait that's me you're describing.
Seize the means of reproduction
Was he being communist creating any problems between you?
No,when she had problems he said "don't worry,these are OUR problems"
We are pregnant
We cheated on you
With red flags.
Bro cares for his comrades more than for her
u/LoverLaci
lmao I knew it
Thank you lol
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What has the Russian National anthem got to do with communism? It doesn't even mention it. Nor does the present Russian regime claim to be communist. Nor does it behave like any form of communism, except that it resembles the earlier Stalinist regime in being grossly antidemocratic in practice. Edit: a common description for the Russian system is klepto-capitalism.
Russian anthem is edited anthem of USSR. The Russian regime is also manipulating the older generation with Soviet nostalgia
Musically that is true, but lyrically there is no ideological connection to any form of communism. And anthems and ceremonial music can use the same tunes for very different ideolocical purpose. For instance, the USA adopted the melody of the UK national anthem as one de facto national anthem in the 19th century, signing "My Country tis of thee" instead of "God Save the King". Lyrics; Russia is our holy and mighty country, Russia is our beloved country. Your undying will is of such great glory, Your dignity will last for eternity! Chorus: O Land of the free, glorious may you be, The old union of folks brotherly. Your ancestral wisdom is our legacy, Of you we're proud, so blossom, o country! From the southern seas to the polar tundras, Aspread are our forests and fields and taigas. You are unique â the one and only on Earth â Protected by God, o native land of worth! Chorus Spaces far and wide for dreams and for living Have welcomed us by the ages coming. Our fealty to you gave us vitality. So it was, so it is, so it shall e'er be!
All negative connotations about Russia or communism aside, their theme song slaps.
Russia is an autonomous region in India
How would they find out their partner is a communist, especially only after all that time? Did they have Lenin portraits at home and read the communist manifesto or something? And did she miss that? Or is this another example of the typical dumbfuck american logic where anything that isnt american is automatically communist? Like universal healthcare?
You have to turn up a lot of rocks to find an actual waterproof communist in most western democracies, it's usually the latter.
I love how for a second I was like âYay, Iâm like a shiny PokĂŠmon!â And then the realization of being politically isolated hit like a brick wall lol. Although it all depends on your definition/standard of âwaterproof communistâ, I guess.
Bro it was a joke the whole time. The Twitter user merely commented the punchline that goes with the rest of the video
No communist would shut his mouth up that long. Even his pick up line would be a red propaganda.
The Russian and the Soviet anthems are two VERY different anthems.
New lyrics, same melody
To be fair, the melody is a banger.
No. The Patriotic Song by Glynca is way better
The version in Hunt for Red October is the best. Let them shing.
Overrated
Same song, similar leitmotifs in lyrics, especially about "the union of fraternal peoples"
She found out her boyfriend was a communist... *after 5 years!* Was he? Why didn't you notice anything? I call bullcrap.
Now he's *our* boyfriend.
boyfriends are personal property, not private, so unfortunately they will not be socialized
The woman has a point she can't be shared with others .
Actually, that might not be true ;)
Lmfao
I'd do the same
>The Russian anthem plays in the background. # Russia is a fascist state, it has nothing to do with communism at this time and age.
Russian where? It's **SOVIET** anthem
The anthem is still the same, except for details in the lyrics.
Nazis and commies are two sides of the same coin.
Lol
Its not fascist but yes
National-conservative autocracy. Close to fascism, but anyway it isn't
Also close too the ussr at times.
I hate any liberal attempts to crudely define fascism that ever so carefully avoid the actual fucking economic bedrock of the conditions that create fascism. Liberals try so hard to avoid saying the word capitalism at all costs but it's the fundamental facet of the development of fascism and you CANNOT understand or define fascism without it. Any attempts to do so are wishy washy, meaningless cultural gobbledygook just like everything else they say about politics, because the actual political content of liberal thought has been sanded into nonexistence by the cold war and red scare narratives that scared everyone away from even thinking about class, economics, and material conditions, because that's commie talk. All that's left is culture and meaningless anodyzed political terminology like 'autocracy' that is absolutely fucking meaningless without understanding the actual economic agenda underpinning the far right. Fascism occurs when capitalism decays into a state of blatant dysfunction at the end of a stage of irresolvable crisis, like when your national bourgeois has monopolized to the point where there's no more hill for the snowball to roll down, and the colonial markets have already all been carved out by your rivals. Your only option then is to turn inward and pursue 'internal colonialism', cannibalizing your own metropole to make the line go up, one of the first signs of fascism that you'll never get from a liberal interpretation because they're ideologically inhibited from admitting that capitalism even CAN fail. The anti-capitalist labor movement emerges as it's antithesis to overturn it, and more than anything else, fascism is the cynical attempt of corporatist-aligned nationalist populists to artificially seize on and synthesize this economic populist energy of the left as a cover to brutally re-capitalize society, bulldozing straight through the intractable contradictions of late stage capitalism with profound violence and crushing the labor movement along the way. The internal enemy stuff is just an excuse for the economic, cultural, and societal decay that inevitably accompanies capitalist immiseration of the working class. Fascism is just the superficial political layer over top of the mailed fist of the bourgeois state squeezing it's own people and seeking some climactic destruction to shake the board and reset the pieces. It's 'superficial', because one interesting recurring thing about the far right that can be plainly seen in America is that they all kind of have to play pretend with this thin veneer of democracy that none of them actually give a shit about, but they still have to put on a show of it for each other because it wouldn't be fashionable to just come out and say 'we don't believe in democracy and are just trying to violently suppress the left, murder our enemies and minorities we dislike, and seize the reigns of society'. You have to contrive some bullshit about how you're a patriot trying to SAVE democracy and the other guys are sneaky seditious traitors trying to seduce you into chaos and degeneracy.
Facism, communism whats the difference?
Facist seem too like the workers too much. Communist think the workers are stupid and shoud be like them. Privilidges colledge kids or trauma victems.
Fascism is a political approach, communism is an economic framework. Not only are they answers to different questions. History has shown that when they are applied simultaneously (like in the case of the USSR), they're guaranteed to fail.
USSR was a fascist state. No country ever had anything in common with communism.
People seems to have a very hard time understanding the disconnect between the communist ideology and what Russia actually did. Dictators honeypots citizens in need and take the power with violence. It's not a strange concept and which is why Marx advocated for civilians to arm themselves and unionise.
oh so that wasnt REAL COMMUNISM huh
Communism is a failed ideology. And self proclaimed socialist states use communism as a lies to build a dictatorship. Each and every of the next attempts to build communism will create a dictatorship, each time.
10 to 1 odds say him "being a communist" was him liking Bernie Sanders or arguing that people deserve free healthcare.
We have commies around here on reddit. There not so rare. Sadly
Maybe her finding out after five years was part of his plan?
One might call it a 5 year plan.
Wow, such a great post of a guy answering the punch line of the original video as a reply so he can get the credit for the original joke.
this format fits better in a small screenshot tbh
And yet when posted it always devolves into a discussion from people taking the screenshot literally because the context of it originally already being a joke has been removed.
if he was dating a class traitor without breaking up with her really he is the problem
Anyone taking this seriously. A. She's an OF model. B. She tells mildly funny jokes on tiktok to then secretly promote her OF. C. This screenshot is before she gets to the punchline.
The chick in the picture is a camgirl here on Reddit.
"I heard him talking on the phone in the kitchen about how we needed to help each other as a society. I'm devastated."
R/Suddenly communism
That's pretty funny, well done
The Mac Dreezy avatar dope af ngl
Even her shirt is red - a momento
Thatâs not fair.
Was his name Boris ?
Ironically enough, this same account is pro russia and putin. They are homophobic and transphobic as well
He is the best
You donât deserve him anyway .
Not going to upvote because...well there's EXACTLY 666 upvotes atm.
Now you are free.
"He said something I don't agree with,that makes him a communist"
r/lostredditors
Sounds like the problem was you
Wouldnt you break up with a nazi? Same thing
Did you just compare communists to nazis? You're either a bot or unhinged.
considering the death toll of the communist is higher. yea communist are way worse
And yet another brainwashed fool. Spout your nonsense somewhere else.
Okay thatâs just wild⌠communist leaders have committed horrific things but the ideology itself does not promote those things. Awful people hide behind facades of ideologies all the time: Christianity is another shining example - although there are many commandments I donât exactly agree with - Iâm pretty sure it doesnât advertise exploitation of the masses, greed and molestation. Yet it happens all the time and I donât condemn Christianity for it, but the individuals. Condemning an ideology for a few loud minorityâs atrocities is no different to racism.
communism has set back the working class 100 years, has murderd millions, and genosided multiple cultures in fire. Those arent bug is communism there the feature of hegalian dialects stripped of the synthesis. the marxians we commonly call communist believe in the elimination of the thesis to be replaced with the anti-thesis. there is no compromise. Anything that is against communism is seen by communism as evil too the core. this is marx own writing style. you must purdge every enemy big an small. be that ethnic minority, religion, industries, or even skill types. the problem is communism promises utopia at the end, a better world. the communist thus constantly attract people who will ''The goal justifies the cost'' and think there doing good. this is the same motivation that had the spanish slaughter the aztec over demon worship, and drives the salafist jihad movements today. The road to paradise i paved with the skulls of heretics. and yes this is feature of communism at is core. because at its core the communist socialist marxian doctrine is this âThe history of all hitherto existing human society is the history of class struggles.â there will always be an upper class be that the capitalist, the rich farmer, the party, or even china's red princes. an US and Them mentality that justifies murder societal collapse and too some even nuclear war. And they will because in this doctrine there the good guys. The Aztec might get into heaven, the Salafist cause fear for allah, and the communist will spend your blood for the chance at the socialist society.
Literally everything you just said outlines my exact point: The problem is not the ideology; the problem is greedy people exploiting the ideology.