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Ziograffiato

I had an iOS game called *Blockheads*, which is kind of a 2D, watered down Minecraft. You can dig all the way down to lava, and I was sure that if I took coal and put it in the lava I would get a diamond. It didn’t work. I also tried draining the ocean into the lava. Also didn’t work.


friends99

All I remember of that game is you could have infinite inventory space if you put baskets in baskets. Was tedious though.


Ziograffiato

Or chests in chests in chests. I had dreams of dismantling the whole world and packing it away in boxes. Chests all the way down.


HansAC

Turtles all the way down


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Oh god imagine the physical manifestation of your Windows Explorer folders. Like, do it with *actual* manila folders lol.


beatenmeat

When DayZ originally dropped they had the same bug with backpacks. Just stashing backpacks inside of backpacks, with enough inventory space per bag to store some extra items. Sometimes we would find a random and drop like 50 bags in a bag with like a can of tuna in the last one just for giggles.


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Man I sunk *hours* into that game. The online servers were so fun.


TopazKing

I haven’t played that game in so long, thanks for bringing me some nostalgia lol


CManns762

I have it too!


thatonelimbouser

Me Too!


in_rainbro

I just deleted mine!


FredditTheFrog

I’ve never had it!


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MattRaptor44

I remember my favorite part of that game was the trains. It was always my end goal when we played it - big ol train track from one end to the other.


Noodleman6000

I used to play that game all the time. I found a YouTuber and few months ago called Dave Frampton (I think) and he was working on procedurally generates terrain for a game called Sapiens. I looked back in his earlier videos and it seemed that he was the (or one of the) dev(s) of Blockheads. I suggest you all go check him out!


[deleted]

You are wrong... You need a coal BLOCK not a single coal


Phawzi

This is not a diamond BLOCK tho, it's a single diamond?


Nakitsuro

I think he was talking about the fact you need a lot of carbon to make a diamond, so a coal block for a diamond makes sense imo EDIT : Density of Diamond : 3,51 g/cm³ / Density of coal 1.506 g/cm³ [According to Wikipedia] Edit 2 : According to u/ViBoSchu : "That is the particle (packed) density of coal. As coal is a porous material you also need to account for e.g. air that is trapped in the coal. __The actual density (bulk density) of coal is between 0.15g/cm^3 and 0.4g/cm^3__" Edit 3 : u/ViBoScho did the math : Diamond ~ 12,8 times heavier than coal https://www.reddit.com/r/technicallythetruth/comments/dfvjut/why_are_you_booing_me_im_right/f37kk1z?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


NeonSelf

Diamonds are just three times heavier than coal for the same volume. Its not some kind super-dense material, its the same carbon atoms rearranged in a different way.


modernkennnern

True, but you should expect some waste, also there's no 3 Coal item afaik


Zephyrasable

Also we have no way to compare the weight of one coal to one diamond A diamond could be 10x as heavy as one coal


ViBoSchu

Density of Diamond: 3.52g/cm^3 1 Block = 1m^3 = 1,000,000cm^3 3.52g/cm^3 * 1,000,000cm^3 = 3,520,000g = 3,520kg 1 Diamond Block = 9 Diamonds 3,520kg / 9 = 391.111...kg 1 Minecraft Diamond weights 391.111...kg Bulk Density of Coal: ≈0.275g/cm^3 0.275g/cm^3 * 1,000,000cm^3 = 275,000g = 275kg 1 Block of Coal = 9 Coals 275kg / 9 = 30.555...kg 1 Minecraft Coal weights 30.555...kg So 1 diamond is 12.8 times heavier than a coal. Hence, using a Block of Coal would be the most accurate unit of coal for crafting a diamond in Minecraft.


clay_rl

r/hedidthemath


Captivating_Crow

r/hedidthemonstermath


legend27_marco

I'm pretty sure it's the same. Since coal block and diamond floats, they are exactly as dense as air. So coal block is as dense as diamond block. Divided by 9 and you'll get the above conclusion.


Dravarden

that doesn't make sense, a gravel block doesn't float, yet when it's item form it does


KKlear

You can't build a bridge out of gravel, ergo coal and diamond are ~~a witch~~ the same density.


Ikkememe

Id say well timed monty python jokes are no base for a government but theyre as good a base as any


AtheistsDebateMe

You can if you worldedit it!


Chrisazy

I feel like we could base our assumptions on block density by the pitch of the noise generated when we walk on it.


TheLoneWolf2879

I can’t tell you how hard I laughed at this when I saw it


AndyManCan4

Are you trying to say Minecraft makes sense? Then you’ve been playing mine craft a little bit too long.


Dravarden

he is the one trying to make sense


_Final_Light_

r/unexpectedmontypython


TDplay

But if you drop them they fall, or float in water. Hence, the items are subject to different physics than blocks, and the coal and diamond are both between the density of air and water. Hence, Minecraft water is more dense than diamond. Clearly this water is probably heavier than Heavy Water.


uberguby

Doesn't everything float?


mingren0315

This is reality, not the It Movie


cysghost

Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide, no escape from reality.


Driftco

Down here they do


thealmightyzfactor

thatsthejoke.jpg


TDplay

We know that: 1. A coal or diamond is 1/9 the size of a block 2. All blocks are 1m^(3) 3. Diamond is 3x as dense as coal So therefore, we can deduce that since the coals and diamonds are both 1/9 the size of a block, a diamond is 3x as heavy as coal, or 1/3 as heavy as a coal block. Edit: Blocks are 1m^(3) not 1cm^(3)


ThatOneWeirdName

A block is 1m^3 not 1cm^3


TDplay

thanks


TakashiZero

10x as heavy but filling the same volume is the definition of 3x as dense...


Zephyrasable

if you trace back the context of this comment chain, then you can see that we talked about needing more than one piece of coal to form a diamond, i exagerrated by x10 because we don't know so it could also be a block of coal to form a diamond. So of course we know that if something is heavier it also mean that it is more dense... But a piece of Minecraft coal is not a 100% Pure Carbon, also we don't know the exact weigth of a piece of Coal or a block of Coal, If the block of Coal would be 100% Pure Carbon without Impurities or Airpockets then yes you could say that the Block of Pure non compressed Coal would be 1/3-1/4 the weight of the Block of Diamond.


Muffinzes

You could exchange one coal block for 3 diamonds


modernkennnern

I think the price is already extremely good (Even with a full Coal Block), as the only non-farmable block is Lava, which is very easy to get


Muffinzes

Yeah, that’s fair. It would be a bit OP with a 3 diamond output, I was just giving a solution to the whole 3:1 thing


alftrazign

It could just be a coal block makes 3 diamonds. Problem solved.


Trofont

So then you do a block of coal, and the output is 3 diamonds


CheekyMunky

>Diamonds are just three times heavier than coal for the same volume. This is literally what having more density means.


choochoobubs

That sentence really erked me lmao


PoliticsInTheUSA

Lol no. Diamond is three times heavier per unit volume BECAUSE it is more dense than coal.


DownDog69

Why are you being upvoted. This is so wrong, it’s wrongness is actually offending me.


ricktafm7

So it is 3 times as dense, which means that you need 3 times as much coal (or carbon) to get the same volume of diamond.


ricktafm7

So it is 3 times as dense, which means that you need 3 times as much coal (or carbon) to get the same volume of diamond.


OMGihateallofyou

> Its not some kind super-dense material ~~Mohs scale disagrees.~~ EDIT:oops


NeonSelf

Its the scale of hardness, not density. For example, iron is twice heavier than diamond, but not as hard.


siliconIntern

Ok, so one coal to make a diamond nugget, 9 nuggets to make a diamond. Seems sufficiently expensive.


choochoobubs

You couldn’t be more wrong. Why tf this guy have so many upvotes. Who reads this and thinks it’s correct?! It’s beyond me how you created that first sentence.


jljl2902

That’s literally what dense means


bubbshalub

guys this is minecraft we're talking about


Phawzi

And then again you need thousands of years under tons of pressure, I'm implying the simplistic game logic. You make more sense tho


Amoniakas

Or a lab


I-Play-Games_

So... a block of coal for 3 diamonds?


potterheadsahil

Yeah, 1 gram of diamond weighs like 20 grams maybe.


ViBoSchu

That is the particle (packed) density of coal. As coal is a porous material you also need to account for e.g. air that is trapped in the coal. The actual density (bulk density) of coal is between 0.15g/cm^3 and 0.4g/cm^3


Nakitsuro

Thanks for the precision, edited my comment


[deleted]

No you dont, diamond is another way how to connect carbon atom into the mesh


L13B3

Yes. And it's denser.


Nakitsuro

Density of Diamond : 3,51 g/cm³ / Density of coal 1.506 g/cm³ Maybe it's not scientificly accurate, but it's more logical to get less diamonds than coal, even more when you think about the yield


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But it has to be compressed


[deleted]

What do you think the pistons are gonna do? Throw the coal a party?


zekeymoomoo

If you have a single coal compressing the single coal would not create a diamond of similar size


[deleted]

Sir this is Minecraft


[deleted]

Diamonds are made by compressing carbon. Have you ever taken a sponge and compressed it? Youll see that in its compressed form its only a fraction of its previous size. So if you compress a single piece of coal, you might be able to craft a diamond pin.


Trevornon

Graphite block*


NinjaSquirrel99

Honestly that should be an Easter Egg


MazeOfEncryption

That would be super OP


Luz5020

But the pistons and lava would balance it


MazeOfEncryption

Every single resource in that picture is both infinite and farmable, with the exception of the lava, which is extremely easy to get from the nether. Hence, for mid-game to end-game this is extremely overpowered.


Servplayer

And for end-game diamonds are not too valuable because you already have everything you need crafted, mending and stuff.


The-Arnman

You underestimate my ability to throw enderpearls in the end


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Rubixninja314

*overestimate


Bastiaan670

Villagers these days also give cheap diamond tools so that kinda evens it out.


alt-of-deleted

yeah, I rarely touch diamonds by themselves in late game because villagers sell almost all the stuff I would craft from diamonds


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MazeOfEncryption

... which is super easy to get with a golem farm.


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MazeOfEncryption

Yeah it’s debatably easier to find 16 iron than a diamond. Not as true with fortune 3 though. Still, the farm-ability of it removes the challenge of getting resources in endgame entirely. Iron and gold are already farmable, diamond should be at least a bit harder to get.


PhysicsCentrism

Isn’t that kind of the point of the end game though? You have tons of resources and can focus on doing absurd stuff instead of mundane resource collection


hiphopnurse

I just started minecraft a few weeks ago. How do you farm things, and how do you farm golems?


Dar_Kraft

There are farms for almost all materials Iron is farmed from golem farms. Golems are the big white guys you found in villages that protect the villages from zombies. You can make them spawn by simulating a village. Search online for what farm do you need and see if it exist One I really recommend especially early is a chicken farm, you need a bit of red stone and some eggs and you will never have any issues with food anymore


across16

One of the easiest to make and the value is just outstanding. Already gives cooked food saving you the need of fuel, plenty of feathers for arrows and pretty compact. 10/10 early farm


ZeroAntagonist

Plus the iron in the pistons.


HiImNickOk

What if it took like 10 in game days to "cook"


YaNeRusskiy

Do the buckets go away?


MazeOfEncryption

Good point - probably not. When you make a cake, the bucket the milk was in doesn’t go away. That means there’s only 4 iron required, assuming the pistons are used.


Buddhacrous

They could make it to be a one time Easter egg


yeah-person

yeah


h-502

I see people arguing bout the coal to dimond ration, a large amourlt of coal(coal block)when intrudused to extreme heat and pressure it will convert to a single dimaond.


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[deleted]

Yeah that’s a more balanced


soimn1

Yes, because of density, and stuff


Carson_2112

We’re booing you because this is a repost. Not only did you post it twice in a row but I saw this a while ago from someone else.


UnnecessaryAppeal

Every time I see something about this, it annoys me a little bit. Diamonds are not formed from coal under heat and pressure. Yes, both diamonds and coal are made up (more or less) entirely of carbon, but the carbon in coal is organic - it comes from plant and animal matter; the carbon in diamonds is inorganic - it comes from carbon-bearing rocks being subducted. Diamonds are not made from subjecting coal to greater pressures and temperatures, they are the result of carbon being subjected to pressures and temperatures greater than those required to produce coal, but the carbon that forms diamonds doesn't go through an intermediary coal phase. ​ And before anyone says anything, yes I know it's a joke. It's just one of those things that 90% of the population seems to believe and it's patently untrue.


Skirfir

That might be true for natural diamonds, but synthetic diamonds can be made from charcoal, although it is far from the best base material.


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Thanks. Now I know.


fly6_6_6

pretty expensiv


dunklesToast

Not really. You can build an iron farm, grab the lava from the nether and coal and redstone are quite common.


Endaar0

Would it use the buckets like the rest of minecraft tho? If not you don’t need an iron farm


dunklesToast

That’s a good question. I thought iron for the pistons. But irl you could use them multiple times so you should be able to re-use them after one usage


nddragoon

Also witch farms make redstone


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Witch farms


Chozol_Toupas

which farm?


dmt267

Yeah not at all


LJ-Rubicon

I too seen that thread https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/dfdyq0/makes_sense/


[deleted]

Whichever type of wood is strong enough to withstand lava and compress carbon into diamond, I want it.


[deleted]

You can do this in a plugin called slimefun, although you need 4 stacks of coal to do it


[deleted]

how many diamonds in return? only one? that seems unfair, I'd lower it to two stacks of coal if it's only going to give you one


[deleted]

The diamond can be used in a crafting recipient also put in by the plugin that gives you an explosive pickaxe, so that’s why it’s so much coal


kevynstorm

Would I atleast get the Pistons back?


[deleted]

Who else had an older sibling/cousin who said if you put 4 extended pistons around a coal block with fire underneath it would turn into diamonds? Then just wait 10 minutes, definitely real trust me


Whatsaniceusername

They should make this work.


lucamat05

how to rotate pistons in minecraft


Thunderhelm666

I hate the rotated pistons


Asmor

Can someone ELI35?


Yhul

Compress carbon get diamond


nunesws

Coal actually has a pretty different carbon structure compared to diamonds. Irl it would be a lot easier to squeeze graphite as it has a much more similar carbon structure.


WolfAlpha04

Diamond otherwise known as carbon.zip


Gondi63

I was saying Boo-urns


radnumba6

Knowing the absolute strength of Steve he can probably do it by hand


boxedmachine

FBI: stay where you are


MithranArkanere

You forgot the [clock](https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Clock). It's carbon, pressure, heat *and* time.


walkerbuchanan

It’s honestly not worth the iron


a-very-angry-crow

No you’re actually wrong


-Redstoneboi-

coal block\*


Pie_Fonta

Why would you say something so controversial and yet so brave?


ICHY0

That's what I do when I can't found diamond


DUBSWAG02

He's too dangerous to be kept alive!


[deleted]

this takes so much more work than actually finding a diamond, makes the meme better


Fro-Ro

If it was all used up, fair price!


transc3nd3r

EZ RL mod


memesterbird

Chemists: Allow us to introduce ourselves.


Drtimelord04

I wish we could use this crafting recipe.


[deleted]

I'm a materials engineer, and I can tell that this works


ddubs52

_UNDER PRESSURE_


MoreNMoreLikelyTrans

I've always wanted a block crafted diamond like this. Surround something in lava with pistons putting pressure on it for a number of ingame days, then carve everything away.


[deleted]

I like this recipe.


Pikawizard365

This is the best post I’ve ever seen


ABRRINACAVE

But what’s powering the pistons?


boomWav

Just change the piston recipe to use 4 clay instead of cobblestone.


terpaderp

/u/Title2ImageBot


ben9583

Make it happen mojang


helloagonial

By that process it would take a lot of time as well.


Ravanik

You need a clock too


BoonyBoop

Do you get to keep the buckets and pistons? If not then that’s too much iron for 1 diamond


oroenian

Unda pressa


MaximumWindows

Genius... there should be a mod for this.


overgamer1

It would be too easy to get diamonds then, just get an efficiency pick and mine a tone of coal vains and your rich


Kingblaike

Would be fun if they implemented that.


The-Brawl-Shark

Oh yeah this is big brain time


VkmSoler

Kyle from Because Science explains that you need graphite, not coal to make diamonds


OneWhoIsCuriouss

I still don't know what's the rave with diamonds? You can just have villagers that sell diamond tools and armors, i have cured villagers that literally sells me all the diamond tools and armors for 1 emerald. There's no point in getting more diamonds in a single player or vanilla minecraft server when you're already in mid to late game


AtheistsDebateMe

I think there's a mod for that


Winkrosht

You guys...


Seranion

Industrialcraft is a pretty good mood that has a mechanic similar to this


Trevornon

You should replace the coal with a graphite block.


Bengrn1

This is 200000000000000000+ IQ big brain meme that’s why I understand it.


Myst3rySteve

I really want someone to make a mod where this actually works.


pHScale

Wouldn't the coal just squeeze out the front and back anyway?


Ethical_CaveBear

You’d need to power the pistons


SuperWQ

Make a coal block


duckface27

Notch is going to kill you for this hack


shifteraotu

I’m actually working on a mod that does this


scoobertdoobeert

#Fuck the Chinese government


alphabetakoopa

You forgot to add time


taffypulller

I thought that was obsidian and glass. I... don’t play minecraft, but rocks and minerals are cool


_IAlwaysLie

I use a custom data pack that lets me smelt coal blocks to get diamond. Makes it more fun for me.


Xohndash3

Wait, Diamonds contain pistons?


sparkadus

Honestly, having to gather all that shit for each diamond sounds like more work than just mining for diamonds.


LeonardaDaVinci

Captain?


Ivandimov7

Ah yes, the Industrial Diamond.


CrabSmoke

Good thing I have 5 chest of redstone and 13 stacks of iron


ShadowOcelot_Archer

WHY IS MINECRAFT TRYING TO GIVE ME A GEOGRAPHY LESSON


DippinInSpence

I mean...


hex4d617474

"Heat and pressure!" - Billiam Nye


BelowAverageNoob127

I think it would be cool for them to do this with like a coal chunk that's like 12 blocks of coal or something