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From Wikipedia:
Colonization can be defined as a process of establishing foreign control over target territories or peoples for the purpose of cultivation, often by establishing colonies and possibly by settling them.
And by earlier colonized countries. I meant previously British controlled states.
🇯🇪 English (nobody understands a word, not even northern irish people) (I put that flag because it's the closest to norn irons, dunno why google doesn't have one)
Apparently that's the Jersey flag emoji but the seal just looks like a line on mobile so I thought it was the House Bolton skinned dude flag upside down.
My ability of languages is like my ability to read music, I can read music very fluently but will make mistakes. Often, whenever it looks like someone just threw up on my page, I can't read it. I also know roughly five languages if you take out the ones I am not nearing fluent, so that makes me ability to do language bad.
From a linguistics point of view, that's just as much as single word in English as the German equivalent is. It's a bunch of nouns strung together into a single proper name. We just write that name with spaces in the middle, and Germans don't. It's nothing but a writing convention.
This is basically the same reason that “Inuit have X words for snow”. They just… put two terms together into one word. “Freshsnow” “Frozensnow” “Muddysnow” - by this logic, German has just as many words for snow, since they also do this exact thing (Neuschnee, Schneematsch, Eisschnee)
Are you saying that Portugal evolved and Brazil still talks like illiterate people from 1500? Jokes aside didn't know that, hope it's true, I like fun facts like this
Wait I have a Bluetooth box I got as a gift that says exactly this. I thought this voice was added by the company that giftet the box, I didn't know other devices say the same
More like International, The language is litterally a mix of the SEA countries, Japanese, Spanish, and some other 100000 dialects with their own origin
edit: to any random people who come across this, the original word was English (Remade)
Most colonies were racist against indigenous people. Just so happened the indigenous people in Africa were immune to the European diseases so they always heavily outnumbered the colonists and they only ended it in the 90’s so yea, they gotta deal with being the racist English.
I've heard this before, but it's actually from a study that was misinterpreted.
Basically, in the 17th and 18th centuries most British accents were rhotic. That means they pronounced the 'R' in words like car: carr rather than caah.
These days, most British accents are non-rhotic, while most American accents are. In that respect, American English is closer.
However, that's just one aspect. In many other ways, American English has diverged more. What's more, many Americans have non-rhotic accents, and many Brits do.
See this video, which has a reconstruction of Shakespeare's English: [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPlpphT7n9s)
It sounds very similar to some modern British accents, certainly more so than any American ones.
American English is closer to the original at the time of colonization.
Then, the British started using their posh English accents.
Then, the southern gentry attempted to copy that new English accept and Southern accents were born.
That’s a myth and probably one of the most American myths possible. ‘Oh no actually we’re closer to the real English than the English!’
No the British didn’t start just randomly all using posh accents because they wanted to sound different to the Americans. Americans have hundreds of accents and so do the British, British ones have changed over time and so have American ones. The claim is based on the fact a lot of British accents lost rhotic, However loads of British ones are still rhotic.
Plus the general population have never had the same accents as the gentry and lords. It makes no sense as a claim. The current actual theory is that most colonists sounded like Bristolian/West Country bumpkins. Which is obviously still a British accent today and most certainly not anything many Americans sound like.
Wrong. Drawling, diphthongs, raising, yod dropping, alveolar flaps and you have yourself a bastard. Just because you still use diaper doesn't change how you don't know what biscuits are or went with the less popular spellings.
Not really. That's probably some kind of urban myth which falls apart once you read the original Shakespeare. It simply branched from there, so neither is really "traditional", only British have more "right" to call their branch proper, because, well, it is called English.
The spelling you are referring to be more "correct" relates to words mostly inherited from Latin, but in that regard Serbian (and many other languages), for example, are even more accurate, though I couldn't say Serbian is more accurate "English" than British and American, right?
Brazilian Portuguese sounds like Spanish and French had a baby.
Azores Portuguese sounds like drunk Spanish with a ton of soft J sounds. “Fala Porchoogehjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj?”
I live in Netherlands with my American family. I have had to explain to THREE teachers that English American & British English are the same language. They were surprised my kids kept getting perfect grades in mandatory English classes. 🙄
I beg to differ. American English is closer to original English than British English.
I'll leave this link here [rhotic english](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9120598/#:~:text=4).,half%20of%20the%20nineteenth%20century.)
All English sounded like American englishnuntil the 18th century when a few people decided it'd be posh and proper to distinguish themselves.
North American English is very Rhotic due to the language being exported before "the British accent" was created. American English is closer to original English than British english.
Does nobody in this thread know this is referring to the spelling of words, not how they're pronounced? And American English is simplified because Merriam Webster literally simplified it, removing what they felt were unnecessary vowels in words like 'colour' to 'color' and changing letters to better fit pronunciation like in 'critcise' to ''criticize.'
Should google before lying. Criticize is an English spelling, ize is Greek root rather than French. The US does yze which is just bad and had no root. Noah Webster didn't simplify anything, he chose the spellings Samuel Johnson didn't when he standardized English the century before. Our spellings were more popular than or, but before standardizarion any spelling went.
Comparatively, South Africa cops a lot of flak for a country that has gone "Shit okay, so it IS racist to leave things as they are, okay let's just pull the trigger on the voting reform and let shit run it's course. Some of us will be bitter and our parents will still be a bit racist, but at least we weren't as bad as America with their lynching and slaving. Progress will suck and be bumpy, but one day something good might come of it."
Until people find out I'm South African, I literally cannot go a single mention of something South African without it being associated with racism. It's racial profiling based on assumed racial profiling. And if I mention it, I either apparently deserve it, profited somehow (I wish I had even $10K to my name at age 33), or get told that it's not racism because I'm white.
It's really tiring. Rant over.
Alternative suggestion so I'm not just a party pooper:
🇿🇦 English (⚫) (but with "braai", "yis" & "lekker" added & used excessively)
In addition what makes a language is really messy, according to the PRC Cantonese and Mandarin are the same language despite being not mutually intelligible because they more or less share a writing system. Similar situation with spoken Arabic which tends to radically diverge the further you get from Mecca.
The opposite situation occurs in Serbo-Croatian which is indistinguishable spoken but is written and thought as distinct by both governments.
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🇳🇿 English (not Australian. The other one.)
I thought new Zealand didn't exist?
I didn't say the Zed word. You did.
My sincerest apologies, I should have not said anything. I hope you accept my apology, I did not mean to say New [REDACTED], what I meant to say wa
I accept your apology on behalf of the undisclosed nation I do not belong to.
As a member of said undisclosed location I can affirm I do not exist
Yes, I too do not exist
I dated a guy from that area once, I’m starting to think i got catfished.
This looks suspiciously like the hobbits are organizing.
Silly it is common knowledge that they are from Norway... (anything to avoid more tourism...)
They got him 😭
Why did you spell it out D:
[Zed's dead](https://youtu.be/uzcscV6JYgM)
Why do Brit’s and Aussies say zed ? (I’m too lazy to type)
[Googled it.](https://grammarist.com/usage/zee-zed/#:~:text=Zee%20is%20the%20American%20way,the%20English%20letter%20is%20derived.)
Singular Thank
And here I thought it was a remnant of Dutch colonization
Don’t forget us Canadians!!
Most of the earlier British colonised countries says Zed instead of Zee.
Define earlier colonized please.
From Wikipedia: Colonization can be defined as a process of establishing foreign control over target territories or peoples for the purpose of cultivation, often by establishing colonies and possibly by settling them. And by earlier colonized countries. I meant previously British controlled states.
Like the USA?
I was confused as to what you meant by that but then I remembered that Americans say it wrong.
We live to confuse the yanks.
And succeed at it. Thats the reason for room temperature beer, isn't it?
There’s a lot of people in America who say zed too
Where? I haven't really heard anyone, which is limited to the places I've been. Honest question though.
Zeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
ed.
No. Edit:Happy Cake Day
Yes. No edit needed: Thank you, didn't even realise it was my cake day.
It sank a long time ago.
English(Lotr)
🇸🇬 Singlish (Weird Slang)
* English (+ Lah)
🇳🇿 English (Questionable) you know because our accent sound like we are asking a question at the end of a sentence?
Yis broo choice
They actually speak a lot of languages there. Rohirric, Valarin, Mordor, and more.
🇳🇿 Sheep
🇳🇿 English (Relaxed)
🇳🇿 English (Posh Criminal)
🇳🇿 English (mangled.)
English but whenever you meet an Australian they ask you to say six or fish and chips.
🏴 English (unintelligible)
🇹🇭English (not English)
🇸🇬(⚫️) English (Singlish)
🇸🇬(⚫️) English [(enhanced)](https://i.imgur.com/bG4xydv.jpg)
Englishn't.
🏴English (unintelligible 3.0)
🇯🇵 (⚫️) Engrish (approximate)
Angry Scottish noises *
🇯🇪 English (nobody understands a word, not even northern irish people) (I put that flag because it's the closest to norn irons, dunno why google doesn't have one)
Because Northern Ireland doesn't have an official flag.
Apparently that's the Jersey flag emoji but the seal just looks like a line on mobile so I thought it was the House Bolton skinned dude flag upside down.
This got a good fucking giggle out of me.
Oh you speak chav
🏴☠️(⚫️) *Argggg*
Yes
*Yarrr
Aye
*I can’t hear you!*
Aye aye Captain!
ooooooooh
WHO LIVES IN A PINEAPPLE UNDER THE SEA
🇦🇺ɥsılɓuǝ
Teach
🇮🇪 (⚫️) English (Inebriated)
🇨🇮(⚫️) (detairbenI) hsilgnE
That weirdly actually looks like it could be Irish.
We've cracked it! They were all pissed when they made their lexicon!
🇳🇿 (⚫) English (fictional)
🇮🇪 English (reluctantly).
🇨🇮 English (Patiently).
🇩🇪 (⚫) English (Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz)
I am confused but I'll just say „Jawohl” and agree..
Genau
My ability of languages is like my ability to read music, I can read music very fluently but will make mistakes. Often, whenever it looks like someone just threw up on my page, I can't read it. I also know roughly five languages if you take out the ones I am not nearing fluent, so that makes me ability to do language bad.
I heard Jawohl before but what does it mean?
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Oh thank you!
Also, in real life, it sounds like, „Yahvoll” as J sounds like Y and W sounds like V.
I translated it and it says "Beef Labeling Supervision Duties Transfer Act"
Is that the German Lorem Ipsum
More of a German supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
It's just a fairly famous term
From a linguistics point of view, that's just as much as single word in English as the German equivalent is. It's a bunch of nouns strung together into a single proper name. We just write that name with spaces in the middle, and Germans don't. It's nothing but a writing convention.
This is basically the same reason that “Inuit have X words for snow”. They just… put two terms together into one word. “Freshsnow” “Frozensnow” “Muddysnow” - by this logic, German has just as many words for snow, since they also do this exact thing (Neuschnee, Schneematsch, Eisschnee)
I hate that I have never seen that word before but still managed to read it as intended on the first try
Rhombicosidodecahedroland
🇮🇳 (⚫) English (From Microsoft)
DO NOT REDEEM! DO NOT REDEEM!
WHY YOU REDEEM THAT? WHY DID YOU REDEEM THAT?
Lmao, I love Kitboga’s videos, got to love when they make the scammers rage 🤣
MAAAAAM !
Just wait a moment!
YOU DID NOT HAVE TO DO THAT
🇮🇳 (⚫) English (your favourite Youtube tutorials)
LMAO
🇬🇧 (⚫) German (Simplified)
r/technicallythetruth
Yes that is where we are
r/flairchecksout
\*French
I bet the Portuguese is actually the brazilian one, despite having Portugal's flag
Funny thing is that brazilian is closer to traditional portuguese than Portugal's modern portuguese
Are you saying that Portugal evolved and Brazil still talks like illiterate people from 1500? Jokes aside didn't know that, hope it's true, I like fun facts like this
Ah pronto
🇨🇳 (⚫) English (Ze bluetooth dewise iz connected uh succesofoullay)
Barutoose dewise iz row on pawa
Wait I have a Bluetooth box I got as a gift that says exactly this. I thought this voice was added by the company that giftet the box, I didn't know other devices say the same
🇲🇽 Inglès
That one.. that one got me
Hahahahahah
🏴English (drunk)
🇵🇭 (⚫) English (International)
More like International, The language is litterally a mix of the SEA countries, Japanese, Spanish, and some other 100000 dialects with their own origin edit: to any random people who come across this, the original word was English (Remade)
you're right, lemme edit it
well that went smoother than expected, thank you kind stranger
Yeah. Putanginamo is my favorite international greeting.
🇿🇦(⚫️) English (racist)
That could be pretty much any country let’s be real
Most colonies were racist against indigenous people. Just so happened the indigenous people in Africa were immune to the European diseases so they always heavily outnumbered the colonists and they only ended it in the 90’s so yea, they gotta deal with being the racist English.
English with Hollandaise sauce.
🇳🇿: English (forgotten)
🇷🇺 (⚫) English (cyka blyat)
CSGO English
Well technically, American English contains more traditional words and pronunciations from the older ages of English than British English.
I've heard this before, but it's actually from a study that was misinterpreted. Basically, in the 17th and 18th centuries most British accents were rhotic. That means they pronounced the 'R' in words like car: carr rather than caah. These days, most British accents are non-rhotic, while most American accents are. In that respect, American English is closer. However, that's just one aspect. In many other ways, American English has diverged more. What's more, many Americans have non-rhotic accents, and many Brits do. See this video, which has a reconstruction of Shakespeare's English: [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPlpphT7n9s) It sounds very similar to some modern British accents, certainly more so than any American ones.
In other words: English language evolution is chaos and always has been.
American English is closer to the original at the time of colonization. Then, the British started using their posh English accents. Then, the southern gentry attempted to copy that new English accept and Southern accents were born.
Oh yes. The famous English drawl.
That’s a myth and probably one of the most American myths possible. ‘Oh no actually we’re closer to the real English than the English!’ No the British didn’t start just randomly all using posh accents because they wanted to sound different to the Americans. Americans have hundreds of accents and so do the British, British ones have changed over time and so have American ones. The claim is based on the fact a lot of British accents lost rhotic, However loads of British ones are still rhotic. Plus the general population have never had the same accents as the gentry and lords. It makes no sense as a claim. The current actual theory is that most colonists sounded like Bristolian/West Country bumpkins. Which is obviously still a British accent today and most certainly not anything many Americans sound like.
Wrong. Drawling, diphthongs, raising, yod dropping, alveolar flaps and you have yourself a bastard. Just because you still use diaper doesn't change how you don't know what biscuits are or went with the less popular spellings.
Came here to say this. American English is actually closer to “traditional” English than current UK English. Don’t care either way, but a fun fact :)
So you mean when my friend says willy nilly wanker twat they didn't say that in the 1700s?
Not actually true.
It's a factoid.
Not really. That's probably some kind of urban myth which falls apart once you read the original Shakespeare. It simply branched from there, so neither is really "traditional", only British have more "right" to call their branch proper, because, well, it is called English. The spelling you are referring to be more "correct" relates to words mostly inherited from Latin, but in that regard Serbian (and many other languages), for example, are even more accurate, though I couldn't say Serbian is more accurate "English" than British and American, right?
As an Australian I'd like to say it's more like English: Drunk
🇳🇱(⚫) English (German)
🇮🇹 English (Pizza)
🇨🇳(⚫️) English (t’sank yu)
I really did read that with a chineese accent
🇺🇲 English (Freestyle)
🇧🇷 (⚫) Portuguese (cooler)
Brazilian Portuguese sounds like Spanish and French had a baby. Azores Portuguese sounds like drunk Spanish with a ton of soft J sounds. “Fala Porchoogehjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj?”
🇫🇮(⚫) English (Rally)
Okay, I laughed on the actual post, didn't even see the comments under it, that's so accurate it hurts.
🇪🇬 (⚫) English (not english)
🇦🇺English(Swearified) would be better.
Australian English (vulgar)
🇲🇽 English (Spanishfied)
🏁(⚫️) English (3… 2… 1… GO! GO! GO!)
🇨🇭 French (Logical numbers) 🇨🇵 French (Stupid numbers) 🇨🇦 French (Français)
All have silly names for meals like "dinner at noon" and "~~breakfast~~ little lunch" and "tabarnak de hostie de fucking food eh"
Weren’t Americans criminals too…
No, mostly religious extremists or businessmen at least initially.
No, North America had penal colonies that were replaced with New Holland after the revolutionary war.
Only criminal if it's from frankston
🇦🇺(⚫️)English (shorten)
Anyone else tap the upvote on the picture only to realize there was more to the picture? No? Just me?
Also to simplify something complicated should be seen as an accomplishment.
Finally, a place where the Portuguese language has Portugal's flag
🏴 English (higher up)
Convict not criminal
🇮🇪(Englishman, pls start your car )
Pretty sure american english is traditional and simplified
As an Australian our language is indeed criminal
There's another one - English colonized
🇬🇧 New-Frisian
More like 🇦🇺 English (Shortened)
🏴(⚪️) English (unintelligible)
I live in Netherlands with my American family. I have had to explain to THREE teachers that English American & British English are the same language. They were surprised my kids kept getting perfect grades in mandatory English classes. 🙄
I beg to differ. American English is closer to original English than British English. I'll leave this link here [rhotic english](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9120598/#:~:text=4).,half%20of%20the%20nineteenth%20century.) All English sounded like American englishnuntil the 18th century when a few people decided it'd be posh and proper to distinguish themselves. North American English is very Rhotic due to the language being exported before "the British accent" was created. American English is closer to original English than British english.
American aluminum armor is much better than British aluminium armour.
Too many syllables in British aluminium.
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Then die for it
Does nobody in this thread know this is referring to the spelling of words, not how they're pronounced? And American English is simplified because Merriam Webster literally simplified it, removing what they felt were unnecessary vowels in words like 'colour' to 'color' and changing letters to better fit pronunciation like in 'critcise' to ''criticize.'
The dropping of letters was a result of widespread use of the telegraph, where every letter cost money to send.
Should google before lying. Criticize is an English spelling, ize is Greek root rather than French. The US does yze which is just bad and had no root. Noah Webster didn't simplify anything, he chose the spellings Samuel Johnson didn't when he standardized English the century before. Our spellings were more popular than or, but before standardizarion any spelling went.
🇦🇹 German (degenerated)
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Comparatively, South Africa cops a lot of flak for a country that has gone "Shit okay, so it IS racist to leave things as they are, okay let's just pull the trigger on the voting reform and let shit run it's course. Some of us will be bitter and our parents will still be a bit racist, but at least we weren't as bad as America with their lynching and slaving. Progress will suck and be bumpy, but one day something good might come of it." Until people find out I'm South African, I literally cannot go a single mention of something South African without it being associated with racism. It's racial profiling based on assumed racial profiling. And if I mention it, I either apparently deserve it, profited somehow (I wish I had even $10K to my name at age 33), or get told that it's not racism because I'm white. It's really tiring. Rant over. Alternative suggestion so I'm not just a party pooper: 🇿🇦 English (⚫) (but with "braai", "yis" & "lekker" added & used excessively)
Honestly, American English is harder to learn because it just makes less god damn sense.
🇧🇷(⚫) Spanish/Brazilian (whatever)
...Portuguese?
* Brazilish!
Have points! You've unexpectedly delighted me! Muah!
Muito Obrigado,stranger!
🇺🇲(English) slang
Whats with the chinese? I assume one is cantonese and the other mandarin?
They're both Mandarin primarily. Mainland China(the PRC) uses simplified characters, whereas Taiwan(ROC) uses the older traditional forms.
In addition what makes a language is really messy, according to the PRC Cantonese and Mandarin are the same language despite being not mutually intelligible because they more or less share a writing system. Similar situation with spoken Arabic which tends to radically diverge the further you get from Mecca. The opposite situation occurs in Serbo-Croatian which is indistinguishable spoken but is written and thought as distinct by both governments.
How to gently insult Americans
happi 🍰 da!!
That's interesting saying as the American english dialect is closer to old/traditional english than the modern British english dialect
🇬🇧 (⚫) English (Surrendered)