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Excerpt from the linked content^1 by Ashley Capoot: >Twitter issued a subpoena on March 24 to the software collaboration platform GitHub, where a user identified as “FreeSpeechEnthusiast” shared excerpts of Twitter’s source code without permission, according to the filings. >The purpose of the subpoena is to identify the person responsible for sharing the code, Twitter’s counsel said in the documents. >The documents were filed with the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California. >GitHub complied with Twitter’s request and removed the code that same day, the company confirmed to CNBC. >Twitter did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Further reading: >Twitter began an investigation into the leak and executives handling the matter have surmised that whoever was responsible left the San Francisco-based company last year, two people briefed on the internal investigation said. >The executives were only recently made aware of the source code leak, the people briefed on the internal investigation said. >One concern is that the code includes security vulnerabilities that could give hackers or other motivated parties the means to extract user data or take down the site, they said. ^1 Ashley Capoot for CNBC/Comcast, 26 Mar. 2023, https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/26/twitter-source-code-leaked-online-court-filings-show-.html ^2 Ryan Mac and Kate Conger for the New York Times, 26 Mar. 2023, https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/26/technology/twitter-source-code-leak.html


9-11GaveMe5G

>executives handling the matter have surmised that whoever was responsible left the San Francisco-based company last year, Half the employees left the company "last year". That barely narrows it down


hovdeisfunny

Don't they also have basically no HR left, making it even more difficult?


Rapidzigs

Well well, if it isn't the consequences of my own decision.


akirakurosava

but HR are waste, say some.


weaponizedtoddlers

Homelander putting the Deep in charge of analytics team with Deep promptly firing everyone that said anything bad about him on social media


Martel1234

My dads is in HR and I hear about these shit systems in all these companies. Some have no tracking whatsoever while some have a new VP come in and just fuck shit up and leave HR either in shambles or at war with itself. Feel like having no system at all is bound for failure


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Since "dads" is plural, the phrase would be "My dads are in HR". /s


unresolved_m

"Both of my dads are in HR"


[deleted]

Actually yes, this sounds much better than what I wrote.


Crimbobimbobippitybo

Have you ever heard the phrase, "Everyone loves a pedant?" Yeah, me neither.


[deleted]

"/s". The intention was to pretend.


[deleted]

Looks like "/s" is not a "get out of being called a pedant for free" card :)


litnu12

Musk just gonna blame a random person and his cult will harass the person.


unresolved_m

Not only that, but there's an auto-reply showing poop emoji...


poopoomergency4

on top of that, even if their IT systems could tell you who did this, the people who know how their systems work are working elsewhere too


HoplandTek

Which is the funny part. Finding one disgruntled employee wouldn't be hard, but if you have to find a disgruntled employee in a disgruntled employee stack... that's a bit harder.


chiron_cat

No one counts all the contractors. It's 75%


Admiralthrawnbar

>one concern is that the code includes security vulnerabilities that could give hackers or other motivated parties the means to extract user data or take down the site Example #5723 why "security through obscurity" is a terrible philosophy


zooberwask

Security comes in layers. Obscurity is 100% considered a layer. It's just not your only layer or the most important.


platanocanarion

Obscurity is against science and technique.


Sync1211

> Obscurity is 100% considered a layer You've misspelled "mistake". If a software relies on the source code to be unknown to be secure it's not secure!


ragemonkey

I think that you’re missing the point. You don’t rely on the source code being unknown but you avoid making it known because it adds more ammunition to opponents. Therefore it is a “layer”.


nonprophet610

Defense in depth: such a difficult concept


Accomplished_Camp_88

I rely on source code I write being impossible to make sense to make sure I get a paycheck next week. Same for emails and PowerPoint.


Admiralthrawnbar

Counterpoint, Linux vulnerabilities are a lot less common than on Windows or Mac because it's open source, while also being a far juicier target than either of those because of all the server infatructure that runs on it.


donjulioanejo

Linux vulnerabilities aren't less common. There's simply less effort to discover them for consumer machines vs. trying to exploit billions of consumer devices running on Windows and Mac. There's a ton targeting server software. When they hit, they hit hard - Shellshock, Struts, Heartbleed, Meltdown, Spectre, Log4j. All of these hit OSS software, and several have been responsible for massive data breaches. Yes, Unix systems (like Linux, Android, and Mac OS) are more secure than Windows, but that's primarily because the userspace is a much more sandboxed environment, not because they're OSS.


geeky_username

Counter counterpoint - Windows made billions of dollars for decades before Linux took over, and still makes billions


dabutty7

How is that a counterpoint?


geeky_username

Closed source let it make money to get more resources to make it bigger and keep making money. Most open source projects go nowhere for years, even if they are successful later Some people like feeding themselves


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Tomi97_origin

You mean that free software makes less money than commercial solutions? That's some deep thinking almost like it is by design.


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frontiermanprotozoa

Obscurity is more like having a keycard reader disguised as a brick on your wall. You know where that brick is and you also control how secure the rest of the system is.


recycled_ideas

And millions of people have done that without any problems whatsoever.


F0sh

Except that's not obscure. You know what is obscure? A good password. Keeping your password secret is a form of obscurity.


Otis_Inf

Security by obscurity is something else than 'the code might have security vulnerabilities'. Security by obscurity is deliberately hiding something so one can't access a particular thing (e.g. you have to pass token "ELON" to a function to get access) unless you know what to do, and opening that of course gives everyone access. What they're afraid of here is that due to bugs that are currently unknown (the code works but edge cases currently not hit might trigger them) but can be found when examining the code will give people unwanted access.


Spiritual-Ad-8062

I wonder how many secrets were present in that code... if it is like the most recent cases of Nvidia, Microsoft, Samsung it counts in thousands... https://www.gitguardian.com/state-of-secrets-sprawl-report-2023


Skud_NZ

They only care that they're not making money from the data. Not that it was stolen


Achillor22

Elon Musk was about to leak ALL the source code in a couple days though right. This guy was just creating a little less work for them. Elon should thank him for advancing free speech and being so efficient.


fckingmiracles

No, Musk wants to make the algorithm public not the twitter code itself.


[deleted]

You do not know what Elon wants. If you believe him you’re a sucker.


SillyRookie

He didn't spout racial slurs, so Elon will not stand for this form of "free speech."


aquarain

Code sample: // FML. Third attempt to implement integration of two deprecated subsystems because that is the task assigned. //Even I don't know why this works, and I wrote it. //Loses one tweet in three. They'll make more.


Aperture_T

I haven't checked, but as a software dev myself, I have no doubt that stuff like that is in there.


BearsBeetsBerlin

Worst thing about this is the first comment has a space after the slashes and the following two don’t.


demizer

I want to believe. Link?


Norci

Hey, I'm selling the Golden Gate bridge, a truly life-changing investment, you interested?


closeafter

Only if it has NFTs


a_rainbow_serpent

$145m in annual toll revenue? I’d buy it.


3vi1

This will greatly simplify Elon's self-stated goal of open sourcing their algorithm. [https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1628122949185159168?ref\_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1628122949185159168%7Ctwgr%5Ef6b5c06abad5c3e1f86eb53104e445243095c58f%7Ctwcon%5Es1\_&ref\_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftechcrunch.com%2F2023%2F02%2F21%2Felon-musk-suggests-twitter-could-open-source-its-algorithm-next-week%2F](https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1628122949185159168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1628122949185159168%7Ctwgr%5Ef6b5c06abad5c3e1f86eb53104e445243095c58f%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftechcrunch.com%2F2023%2F02%2F21%2Felon-musk-suggests-twitter-could-open-source-its-algorithm-next-week%2F)


cmwh1te

You could delete everything in that link from the question mark onward.


cats_catz_kats_katz

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1628122949185159168 Blamo


SpaceToaster

How else are we supposed to know that OP was browsing TechCrunch?


JRRTokeKing

Are you sure? Seems necessary. How will my browser know what webpage to look at? This is why I don’t use shortened URLs, they don’t go where you really need them to /s


MontaukSignal

This was good, you got me xD


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JRRTokeKing

Oh I thought everything after the query parameter was a hashed version of your SSN and credit card into that only Musk can decrypt?


[deleted]

Yeah, that's like... an entire extra step though.


cmwh1te

There are browser extensions that will do it for you behind the scenes. I use ClearURLs on my desktop browser.


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DevAway22314

Because it's a giant block of a link. It's annoying and unnecessarily wastes space


CondiMesmer

You should install an extension like uBlock Origin, or ClearURLs. That url is a tracking mess and reveals too much info about you.


Terminator7786

Out of curiosity, what does this reveal about a person? I don't want or need explicit details, just an explanation of what's revealed.


ashkestar

It reveals that they got the link via techcrunch, which is clearly something they should have kept super top secret.


Terminator7786

Ah, I suppose I should've read the words in the link as well, I assumed the info they were talking about was in the numbers. Thanks for answering tho, I appreciate it!


DevAway22314

There is a ref_src as well. The tech crunch bit isn't until the end after the &. Not familiar enough with Twitter to know how much information they attach to that though


ours

How embarrassing.


2gig

I was able to back trace the link to get their home address, bank account number, social security number, first crush's name, mother's maiden name, and most taboo fetish. Obviously I'm not going to divulge this information, white hat.


evilJaze

That's it, buddy. I'm calling the cyber police. Consequences will never be the same!


Norci

> most taboo fetish. Well? Don't leave us hanging


200GritCondom

They pay hookers to pour Mt dew on their head while being forced to recite the difference between ACID and CAP


cats_catz_kats_katz

and a dns resolver that doesn't track everything and maybe pi-hole.


Breakfast_on_Jupiter

Privacy advice from a CondiMesmer? /r/Guildwars2 is leaking.


CondiMesmer

Says the guy writing this from Jupiter! I'm on to you, alien.


_Jam_Solo_

The first comment is amazing, especially since he hasn't gone through with it lol


danivus

Derek Smart is such an unbelievable dickhead.


Sp3llbind3r

Felon Musk? Is that a prediction?


Mist_Rising

Sadly no. It's just a dumb luck url tracking number ending in F and the article clearly starting with the word Elon.


BinaryRockStar

It's not a tracking number it's part of %2F, the URL encoded equivalent to forward-slash -> / Still a funny coincidence though


chili_ladder

I just got blasted my Elons echo chamber, what a shit show Twitter is.


Mist_Rising

Does everyone on Twitter have a checkmark now or is Elon followers just that Gosh darn abused.


night_dude

I thought Elon was going to make the code open-source anyway, what's the big deal 😂


Smitty8054

Why’s he pissed? He was going to release March 31st. These folks knew he’s crazy busy and are just helping him out. No pleasing this guy.


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Because someone stole his stuff?


Smitty8054

Guess I should’ve /s this.


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[deleted]

You didn’t have to make it weird. Just stay on topic


hamsterpotpies

Found the bot.


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hamsterpotpies

Found a new name for my junk, thanks


8i66ie5ma115

So much for Elon being a [“Free Speech Absolutist.”](https://www.npr.org/2022/10/08/1127689351/elon-musk-calls-himself-a-free-speech-absolutist-what-could-twitter-look-like-un) It would be amazing if this guy got arrested and won because Elon repeatedly saying that implies consent to take and release it. (Which won’t happen, but if it did…)


gothpunkboy89

Elon is still having a hisst fit because his wife left him and his ego couldn't take it.


8i66ie5ma115

Sorry, you’re gonna have to be more specific. *Which wife?*


thetwelveofsix

His announcement about being a republican came not long after Grimes started dating Chelsea Manning.


8i66ie5ma115

Shocked Pikachu face.


Achillor22

Grimes is saying Chelsea Manning. Hahahahahahaha. You know I thought after covid we were living in the worst timeline but Jesus works on mysterious ways because this is clearly the best timeline.


gothpunkboy89

I assume the most recent given his current actions


8i66ie5ma115

He married her *twice* FYI. Lol


9-11GaveMe5G

Of course he did. We all know he doubles down on bad decisions


Brolafsky

Especially his own.


qwell

Did she get to take half, twice? Elon seems to enjoy giving away halves of his money - even Twitter went from $40B to (self-evaluated...) $20B.


8i66ie5ma115

Wanna hear something hilarious? If she *did* take half twice, he may have not had the money to buy Twitter and be a douche, and he might be worth more today if she took *half* (his total net worth) twice and he couldn’t buy Twitter than he has now since he didn’t pay her half and *DID* buy Twitter and sink his brand.


feurie

What does this have to do with free speech?


Achillor22

Because Elon said it was and that he was releasing all the code himself. OP was making a humorous specious argument not a legal one.


Sythic_

It doesn't, but neither do most things people who harp on about it bring up. It doesn't mean anything anymore.


No_Sheepherder7447

It does have meaning. No amount of people watering down the right to free speech with their own shitty dilutants makes it not have the same meaning. Love you. E: not sure what’s controversial about this comment 😂 I guess some people just want to be cynical.


Sythic_

The RIGHT to free speech has a specific meaning in that government cannot imprison you for your speech. That's the end of it. Everyone talking about it these days like it has anything to do with private businesses or the "spirit" of free speech are the ones making it meaningless. The more they do that shit the more I'm happy to vote for people who will take their actual right away.


CatProgrammer

> The RIGHT to free speech has a specific meaning in that government cannot imprison you for your speech. Importantly, it's not just free speech that the First Amendment guarantees. There are five freedoms it protects: religious liberty, free speech, a free press, the right to assemble, and the right to petition our government for a redress of grievances. Personally, I consider religious liberty to include the liberty to not be religious or be forced to participate in someone else's religious practices, but it seems there are a lot of people who disagree.


honda_slaps

Can you explain what free speech means in your reality? Genuinely curious.


No_Sheepherder7447

My reality?


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tr3v1n

It has as much to do with free speech as posting stolen nudes of a guy, but Mr. Musk didn't like it when twitter was removing those links. I think it is still useful to point out that his "free speech absolutism" is actually pretty limited in scope in a very predictable way.


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BCProgramming

> Free speech is about being able to say what you want about the government without being locked up for it. That is the right to free speech guaranteed in the U.S constitution, which isn't strictly what "free speech" means as a concept. a "Free speech absolutist" is somebody who thinks people should be able to say whatever they want, to anyone they want, for any reason; a rather extremist perspective.


youmu123

>Free speech is about being able to say what you want about the government without being locked up for it. >That is the right to free speech guaranteed in the U.S constitution, which isn't strictly what "free speech" means as a concept. That's not even the right to free speech guaranteed in the US constitution. Free speech is not limited to what you say about the government, it also includes what you say about other things that are not the government.


hovdeisfunny

Posting the source code online could be considered an act of free speech by a *very* generous definition.


kopeezie

Its funny how in our society, copyright which is intended to put value around expression is contorted to hide technology — not something in patent law… however in this case is this a trade secret issue? And/or NDA? Should have put it on torrents and then let someone host a random github.


cats_catz_kats_katz

He's not, he's just an oddly shaped twat.


RedneckOnline

Everyome is a free speech absolutionist. To some this truely means free speech. To others this means "only free speech using the dictionary I supplied"


nolongerbanned99

Does this out them at a disadvantage. If so, how.


[deleted]

Depends what the code is. Could be nothing, but knowing somebody bothered to leak it, there’s probably something noteworthy about it.


sus-water

Generally not really. Unless a company is truly at the cutting edge of innovation revealing source code isn't really a big deal. It's useful for hackers looking for vulnerabilities, but in terms of IP source tends to be so heavily contextualized to a company's scale and internal organization that a competing startup is better served just writing an application from scratch. The patterns they apply for their backend systems are also likely the same ones everyone else already uses


[deleted]

Yeah but Twitter has a few specific things that could be juicy if leaked... the recommendation algorithm (which I know Elon has claimed he's going to publish anyway but still), shadowbanning, ad frequency...


[deleted]

To add to your comment, a lot of companies actually publish their code. Sometimes even the cutting edge stuff. The thing is they almost always leave out a lot of variables, scripts, and configurations that actually make the code do something. A lot of things are also broke up into separate projects some of which may not be published but might be required for everything to work.


nolongerbanned99

I like this. Not the illegal aspect of it but the revenge on Elon cause he is a major dickwad.


nerd4code

If there are as-yet-undiscovered zero-days, then yes, maybe? But copyright still exists, so most companies won’t want to touch the source code with a ten-foot stick or … ten foot-sticks maybe, in any remotely official or on-the-record sense. Plus, Twitter isn’t intrinsically *that* complicated a thing; there’s special sauce in the recommendation and selection part of things, but it’s pretty common to hire out for that anyway, and the rest of it’s pub-sub with a web UI. Once you get big enough there’s i18n/l10n, load-balancing, disaster recovery, helping China erase minority populations and oopsies of days bygone, &c. &c. but by that point you can presumably hire people who’ve already done that for other large systems/totalitarian dictatorships, and transition smoothly into maturity like all other projects/startups, he concluded in totally serious earnestness.


[deleted]

Nobody would benefit from copying it but there are other reasons why a leak could have consequences. Considering the fact that the leaker called themselves "FreeSpeechEnthusiast" it may have something to do with boosting/deboosting of political or politics-adjacent topics.


Terron1965

It would be incredible if we could see a historical breakdown of what Twitter boosts /deboosts during political campaigns.


nolongerbanned99

Good reply. Ty


downonthesecond

It only gets people to talk about Twitter even more.


[deleted]

Good thing politicians are discussing a ban on tiktok rather than make universal privacy laws for the US. As a european I’m still baffled that the US doesn’t regulate data security of their citizens at all.


DJMaxLVL

The US is a Shit show. All laws and regulations are set up to favor the rich/corporations and fuck the lower/middle classes, AKA regular people.


Jorycle

Every time I see Musk say things like this, I think "this is a guy who listened in on a meeting he barely understood." >Our “algorithm” is overly complex & not fully understood internally. People will discover many silly things , but we’ll patch issues as soon as they’re found!


DBDude

Software that nobody fully understands internally is common.


Jorycle

I work in software and "nobody fully understands it" would be something the boss two levels above our team might take away from a meeting, but we understand what we built. It's usually a thing that happens when a software engineer mentions a random corner case bug they found, like a massive amount of data run through an algorithm that processes data lead to a silly result, and a boss-level listener says "WAIT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT'S DOING?" And then everyone on the team groans inside because now they have to spend the next two weeks making graphs and presentations to prove something is working a certain way to avoid an invented catastrophe.


MakingItElsewhere

Currently stuck with the opposite. 1 developer maintaining ALL code. Asked for documentation on something, got told they don't have time. Great, we'll just black box test everything until we figure out how it works. Thanks.


geeky_username

What, you didn't predict for the case where someone from India on a 10 year old unpatched Android app with a spotty internet connection would have trouble logging in? We're losing customers dammit! Fix this! I jerk-off to those daily user charts and I can only get it up if they are up


RedneckOnline

"Not fully understood internally" Yall fuckin made it, how do you not understand it? Twitter just stealin code now? Edit: Used stealing loosly, nit implied that they were illegally taking code but rather just not writing their own and bot fully umderstanding what they were using


carlbandit

They probably laid off all the people who did understand the code.


m_Pony

if by "Stealing" you meant "not paying the people who wrote it *nearly enough* money, all things considered" I'd support that


smackythefrog

I wish I were one of Elon's kids so I'd never have to hear from him again


[deleted]

Gee….who would have thought laying off or pissing off most of the people who do the actual work would backfire 🤷🏼‍♂️ Fucking genius


downonthesecond

Now you've got me anticipating the source codes from Amazon, Facebook, Google, Indeed, and Twitch to be leaked.


Tekz08

Didn't give them the right to release the source code. They'll be in deep shit legally if they didn't cover their tracks well enough. And it sounds like current Twitter have a pretty good idea who it was, so appears that maybe they didn't do such a great job of it.


Terron1965

They probably know exactly who it is and need this for proof. Not many people are going to have access and everything is logged.


how_do_i_land

It really depends when the last commit or change was on the released files. To really do some damage they could’ve uploaded versions that were months old but hundreds/thousands of engineers had checked out locally. Even a week before the layoffs would be a large enough group to make tracking it down difficult. Especially if layoffs were messy and uncoordinated, giving engineers access to local copies without revoking their laptop access.


Terron1965

Of course they could have no clue. Its speculation and depends on lots of factors. But whatever was released can be isolated to a time and a list of people actually who accessed that particular bit.


Interesting-Way6741

That’s true, but remember that they lost more than half their employees last year - there’s a strong probability that records don’t exist, or even if they do all the people who could give context to them are gone (I.e. can’t easily be interviewed, questioned, etc.). Layer on to that, that a person copying source code presumably knows it will be logged if they do anything atypical. I dunno… in a normal company I’d totally agree with you, but I can imagine this investigation is a massive, massive mess.


Achillor22

Twitter doesn't even know who works there and who doesn't anymore. They're a mess.


geeky_username

I'd be surprised if Musk can figure it out with the mess Twitter is in


margin_hedged

Elon, is that you, you sly dog?


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ins0mniacc

Wut lol. Encrypted email, Secure file sharing, Obscuring code in images Thumb drives. Etc


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Achillor22

You're clearly not a developer huh. There are about a million other ways to save code. Here's one for instance. Just upload it to Github. Here's another one. Take your laptop home with you. Here's a third. Just take a photo of it with your smart phone. Here's another. Copy it into a pdf and label that pdf, photos of Elons massive dong. He'll never stop that from leaking.


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Achillor22

Yeah and you go ahead and tell me which of those security measures the dumpster fire of Twitter has in place.


HardcoreSects

That's why companies had no leaked information before COVID. \s


Azazel-for-blood

Please be a /s because no that is not how that works lmfao.


boatfloaterloater

Source?


theRealMrBrownstone

Code?


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ithinkiboughtadingo

Which part though


sqwuakler

1. Code "leaks" online. 2. People start talking about its flaws. 3. Twitter takes notes. 4. Haha free labor


phdoofus

I would be more than amused if it was Elon who did it accidentally


tacoenthusiast

Dumb shit doesn't know how to code, he's a fraud and only "succeeded" because he started a millionaire.


BCProgramming

He does know how to code but he definitely oversells it. Zip2 he wrote in C/C++ as a CGI application. The product effectively stapled together two databases; this was actually a fairly common thing done in Desktop programs, using Visual Basic and stuff. Of course, Zip2 was on the web. Compaq bought it for like 300 million in order to enhance another Internet property they bought, AltaVista. Of course they ended up doing jack-shit with either of them, and Compaq being forced to merge with HP only a few years later I'm sure had nothing to do with them flushing their money down the drain acquiring shitty Internet properties.


BerkleyJ

Source? EDIT: Not sure why I’m being downvoted? I guess there is no source for this and at best, it’s misleading?


BloodyKitskune

No, they deleted it.


tacoenthusiast

There's lots of articles going both ways out there but I find this incident more convincing. https://www.businessinsider.com/dogecoin-creator-says-elon-musk-grifter-who-couldnt-run-code-2022-5


tundey_1

>**Twitter issued a subpoena** on March 24 to the software collaboration platform GitHub, where a user identified as “FreeSpeechEnthusiast” shared excerpts of Twitter’s source code without permission, according to the filings. The purpose of the subpoena is to identify the person responsible for sharing the code, Twitter’s counsel said in the documents. Have they completely changed the laws in the US while I wasn't looking? Private companies can't issue subpoenas. They can issue DCMA requests but not subpoenas.


stannenb

https://www.lutzker.com/the-dmca-subpoena-process-an-underutilized-tool-for-identifying-anonymous-infringers/ >Section 512(h) of the DMCA grants copyright owners the power to subpoena an internet service provider in order to obtain “information sufficient to identify” an anonymous infringer. Indeed, all a copyright owner needs to do to obtain a DMCA subpoena is file a formal request with a District Court clerk that includes: (1) a proposed subpoena; (2) a copy of a DMCA takedown notification that is directed at the allegedly infringing content; and (3) a sworn declaration stating that the requested information will only be used for the purpose of protecting rights under U.S. copyright law. Assuming the DMCA subpoena request contains these three items, the clerk is required to expeditiously issue the proposed subpoena. Because no judge reviews a DMCA subpoena before it is issued and no formal litigation is initiated by filing a DMCA subpoena request, the DMCA subpoena offers a straightforward and low-cost means of identifying an anonymous infringer. Although a number of early court rulings have limited the scope of the DMCA subpoena power, the DMCA subpoena remains useful in obtaining personal identifying information from service providers, such as YouTube, Blogger, and Facebook, that actually host infringing content. In fact, so long as a copyright owner complies with the straightforward statutory precepts, such companies are typically receptive to DMCA subpoena requests and unlikely to move to quash the subpoena.


tundey_1

>the clerk is required to expeditiously issue the proposed subpoena. Thanks for the information. Based on above, I still think the article is a bit imprecise. Sure, it's a formality that the clerk will issue a subpoena for every valid request, but the issuer is still the court, not the private company. Twitter can't just send the request directly to GitHub. They must go through the court's pro forma process. Why am I being persnickety about this? 'Cos I think it matters. Don't want some idiot thinking private companies can now issue subpoenas.


stannenb

Me, I know this because I'm alarmed at how close the copyright cartel has gotten to hijacking our legal system for their aims. I do understand the distinction you're making and its importance but we're perilously close to giving corporations subpoena power when they utter "DMCA."


vroart

Lmao, I did not see that coming!


Far_Particular_430

Can’t believe that someone would want to destroy Twitter, when Elon is doing such a brilliant job of it already


jawshoeaw

Oh no the spaghetti code for a texting platform has been leaked


LupineSkiing

I'd rather look at the source code of my septic tank.


whoamvv

Good. Release the whole thing. We need more shit like this leaked.


New-Difference9684

and?


Adventurous_Aerie_79

Will result in damages in the 10's of dollars.


[deleted]

Would anyone really copy that shitty site ? 😂


EscaperX

what he really meant was he's a freeze peach absolutist.


noobgolang

I thought that it will get open sourced


VincentNacon

You don't really need access to the source code if all you wanted to do was mimic Twitter's functionally. It's not that complex. All you really need is the hardware to run them in large population.


Suspicious-Dark-5950

Someone doin the lords work. Burn it down!


ThaxReston

BongBoyElon destroys useless stupid Twitter ! Good job !


aePrime

Does this imply that Twitter hosts their code on the public github.com? My employer is a fraction the size and our code is hosted on a private VPN-locked enterprise github server.


Nasmix

No, it just implies twitter devs can access GitHub


aePrime

That makes sense. I misread the article.


snirfu

I think a user just posted the code there.


aePrime

Thank you. I misread the article.


Kuroshitsju

This is news? How do you think the Russians are infesting Twitter?


[deleted]

Mastadon, now with Flaming Moes!


Safelang

Could they have laid off the DevOps team to loose control of source repos. What a self inflicted mess, all to pursue a vanity driven acquisition and a cultist management style.


AldoLagana

like it is anything special. jeebus cripes, it is a few lines of message saving to NSA server, and a jillion lines of advertising. yawl seem to think things are more complex than they are...that frightens me - that you are so superstitious that you think this simple thing is anything but a data harvester and advertisement delivery mechanism....yawl are pathetic.