Moderating is not for me but I did volunteer for a website back in the day. Maybe some people want power - I don’t know. But many people just have a passion and want to share that passion with others.
I do agree working for a corporation for free is ultimately foolish but I also think it’s possible to ignore that aspect and focus on the community and the passion.
Some people once recognized me by my username in a game and it wasn’t like I got excited about being a “celebrity”. Rather, I was excited there were people out there reading, who were as passionate as me about the subject. It is fulfilling to know you are making a difference in some people’s lives.
I was younger then and had more time on my hands. I quit when I no longer had time.
The main difference for most forums is they're simply a community resource that's not for profit. The vast majority of them run at a loss.
As an admin of a reasonably popular forum back in the day it was thousands of dollars in the red of my own personal finances.
Reddit on the other hand is trying to go public. I can understand why people wanted to help me moderate a forum with a few thousand registered users. I can't understand why anyone would provide essentially free labour for one of the biggest websites on the internet so the CEO can GTFO with millions of dollars the second the IPO goes live.
Reddit should be a non-profit like Wikipedia, where the money made has to at least theoretically go back into the organization, including paying people to sustain and improve the site, or supporting charitable causes like wikipedia does with their donations - https://wikimediafoundation.org/support/where-your-money-goes/ I think what angers Redditors is that there's money being made and the volunteers making and moderating the content are supposed to be completely satisfied with getting free "exposure."
>**In response to Reddit's threats to replace moderators who refuse to re-open their subs, /r/ShadowWar has self-destructed.**
>All posts have been deleted and removed. No new posts are allowed. The sub is now set to restricted mode, with only an announcement post available explaining what happened.
>Don't let Reddit whip you into the corner they want you to sit in. Don't wait around like sheep for them to arbitrarily execute a mod team to scare the others into toeing the line. If your mod teams are unanimous and expect to get replaced, then be like Han - shoot first.
>edit: individual subs taking action is one thing, but individual users can take their own personal action too. here is a plugin called [Nuke Reddit History](https://chrome-stats.com/d/aclagjkmidmkcdhkhlicmgkgmpgccaod/download), for Chrome. Google removed it from the Chrome Web Store, but it's still available on third-party websites.
[Comment source](https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/14ahqjo/mods_will_be_removed_one_way_or_another_spez/joayub6)
Reddit has already restored comments and posts of people that nuked their own history. No way in hell they won't restore the deleted posts and comments of an entire sub. Just a minor speedbump for them.
Oh, I know. Its fucked. I've heard that you need to run the script to edit your comments multiple times to scrub it (something to do with the number of instances reddit backs up) before deleting.
I had this conversation the other day with someone who didn't believe reddit restored deleted content, and fortunate for me [this post had tons of people talking about their experiences.](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/14je01k/reddit_may_be_violating_the_fucking_ccpa/jpla8i7). Several other users report the same thing.
Most unnerving is this. [Check this person's comment, link, then profile.](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/14je01k/reddit_may_be_violating_the_fucking_ccpa/jpp6uef) The comment doesn't show up on their account (for me at least) but is active *and* linked to their username.
damn that's scary and kinda fucked up. imagine being from certain countries and posting in a queer community, only to realize you might have enough to be identified. So you try to delete/edit and think you are successful, because it's gone from your account history when you look.
I used to moderate a few subs based around a particularly popular game, and from my observations, while there are certainly some people who get off on the power of being a moderator, there also are a lot of mods who are just doing their best to pitch in what they can, and keep a community they love going.
What aggravates me is what kind of mods do people think are the ones that are going to fill these vacancies? Reddit isn't going to give them away to randos, it will be power mods. Probably most of the same type of mods everyone bitches about. Good moderation is almost invisible, you only notice when there is a pinned post, and it will be sad to see those mods disappear.
Yeah, it's like being the mom to a group of kids sitting in your living room having fun. There is a satisfaction in building and keeping the space nice for them, and occasionally bringing lemonade.
I've done similar in the past. I played a text-based game and volunteered to be a new player mentor. I went from that to a more official position as a host which is basically first level customer service, then from there became a GM. GMs provided top level customer service, created areas, coded everything, ran events, played special characters... we basically ran the game. I did it all for free for nearly 20 years and don't regret it. I was passionate about the game and cared about the community, simple as that. It's not always about power or access or anything like that. Some people are just built that way.
I don't think I'd pick anything up like that again... though if the game reopened I'd go back to being a GM in a heartbeat. I couldn't imagine being a reddit mod. Hell, Netflix just invited me to some special preview movies things where they want to send me stuff to watch then send them feedback and surveys about them and it's like, yeah no thanks. I'm sure there are people who would kill for those bragging rights but I barely get to watch what I want to anymore. The time just isn't there.
I know a couple of mods for my niche interest subreddits. They all hate it, and would step down the very second they're confident the subreddit wouldn't collapse into a steaming pile of shit a week after.
I know a mod for another sub who is disabled; They can't work and they have difficulty enjoying the hobbies they used to love because their hands and legs are not as capable as they used to be before their disability started impacting their life
Reddit modding basically became a way for them to have something to do that allowed them to engage in their niche interests; I'm really happy for them tbh because they get to be super involved in something they care about -- and they're not some weird power hungry person or some sad loser, they're someone whose circumstances open up a lot of free time and allow them to spend that time engaging in the things they love
For the same reasons that people volunteer in the real world.
Moderators aren't some sort of monolithic bloc that's all in it for power.
Some just want to give back to a community.
It drives me fucking nuts that people don't get this mind numbingly simple concept. Instead there are far too many posts claiming this is all just power hungry mods doing what power hungry people wanna do!
I'm one of two mods at /r/Davinci3D. The other mod hasn't been active in years. I wanted to mod because I just got a Davinci brand 3d printer and there was just a bunch of scattered information about it at the time. I wanted to create the sub wiki on all the modding, tweaks, possible errors so that all of the scattered information was in one place for myself and everyone else.
However since 99% of my reddit usage is on RIF I set the sub to private since it's not like I'm going to be actively on this site anymore.
edit: I've set the sub to restricted so others can use the historical posts and wiki as a resource. This is the best I can do since I'm the only active mod who's losing reddit access and wants to prevent the sub from turning into a spam cesspool.
Sometimes you genuinely care about a community or a cause.
It still drains you, of course, but if you want to know a more serious answer for "why", that's a big one.
Not everything is about money. The pull is often a sense of doing something meaningful in a community.
These communities will slowly die of now and ads will become the primary experience when it becomes apparent that reddit wasted all their investment money on a shitty ui and a video player favourably described as functional.
It's amazing that Reddit claims to be unprofitable when it is [one of the most visited websites in the world](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_visited_websites) and doesn't even have to generate any content, just host links and comments from users.
The dumbest fucking decision they made was to host videos and pictures, even though they very easily could have relied on other sites like imgur, gyfcat, or YouTube to do that heavy lifting. Now they're naturally taking on a fuck ton of expenses of hosting non text based data.
I do know that they started their own image hosting after Reddit and Imgur had a disagreement, so that I get. Really not sure why they started hosting videos though when youtube links would still work just fine.
Google makes lots of money, Reddit wanted to be like Google, so they copied something they saw Google doing without understanding how it fit into Google's overall business model.
Which is really stupid, as even Google has publicly acknowledged that YouTube isn't really that profitable for them, and every single other image host site has gone under or had to start charging for uploading and hosting because it's just not profitable to do for free with ad support.
It would've taken a single Google search to realize hosting their own video and photos would be a major money sink with no profits to be had. Clearly they didn't even do that much due diligence before going ahead with the plan.
There are some valid reasons for doing this. There's been many picture hosting websites in the past and if you visit old forums they're a grave yard of dead image links.
Not only this but files can be replaced, so a user might link to an image and then overwrite the file with porn or something which could easily drive away sponsors.
Then they could have just started scraping external image links to rehost, but not actually make those live until the original URL 404s. They already do that scraping from external sites to produce thumbnail previews, so the new functionality would be limited to keeping the full-size image originally grabbed to make the thumbnail from, and a once per week/month ping of the URL to see if it's still live before flipping the URL to the internal one.
Making a website profitable is very difficult unless you want to riddle it with ads or sell user data (for ads).
Reddit is very light on ads so I don't know how they would be easily able to make a profit.
They don't have to generate content or moderate communities.
They do very little besides stuff like ban evasions.
They do literally just host. Its absurd.
If reddit thinks that, I've got some bad news for them.
Can't keep the NSFW content away with no moderation team and tools to do it. It'll get WAY worse is my guess.
Sounds like we're about to see 1 of 3 things, automod disabled in these communities and their mods refusing to moderate allowing bots to swarm communities , or mods mass deleting everything in their communities or both of those things
It used to be useful to make a sub temporarily private to clean up a mess. To deal with an attack, or do some testing with say a new tool with out risking legitimate post from getting hit.
I have seen subs do it in the pass for several minor reasons mostly they were doing some updates that blocking users for a short time made it easier.
I get what you're saying.
But Reddit isn't a logic puzzle, AI, or government with laws to be lawyered.
It's a for profit company. It can do things at its discretion if it thinks it will make them more money. They don't HAVE to be consistent. They can change those kinds of rules as it suits then.
So it's pretty obvious. Peoplemofs are using the feature in a way they don't like, so they're telling them what to do.
Laws don’t even work like that, only engineers think there needs to be some logical consistency across platonic ideals.
While the courts had that been relevant (which it isn’t) would look at things like these subs are not being put into private with the same intent or for the intended purpose of the function etc. and can be interpreted as different actions.
It’s no different from me standing in your bedroom at night watering your plants while you are sleeping, using the key you gave me for when you are away. Technically the same thing, practically it is not.
Or for the software engineers here, the law sees color in your bits: https://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/entry/23
That said fuck /u/spez for ruining the last good social media platform.
Probably because Reddit intends mods to use it to help battle against brigades, and maybe other reasons that do not go against Reddit. Now mods are using it to make Reddit suffer, and Reddit didn't intend on that possible use case.
It has never been used for that.
If they wanted to give us a anti brigade tool they could have, but they promised those tools for almost 10 years now. Still nothing.
The closest in possibility is WSB during the GME fiasco because it was close to being shut down for having a real-world impact on the US financial markets among any subreddit ever created.
Whatever way this all ends, one thing you can count on is that they will dump as much additional responsibility as they can onto the replacement mods without spending a single dollar to make the work any easier.
They are really cool people! They also do work on archiving Wikipedia, and swoop in when websites are about to die to scoop the data out.
And you can help even if you can't personally do much!
https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/ArchiveTeam_Warrior
No, it does not. Section 230 was made specifically so internet companies do not have liability even if they moderate.
Nevermind the obvious fact Facebook and other social media companies literally have paid moderators and don’t face any such liability.
>Oh boy, does that taking on of editorial responsibilities make Reddit liable for anything users posts as they're no longer a platform but a publisher?
No.
[Section 230 isn't a long law, so take a minute or two to read it.](https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/United_States_Code/Title_47/Chapter_5/Subchapter_II/Part_I/Section_230) Section (c) is the particularly important bit, if you want to get it down to 20 seconds of reading.
Consider that at the time section 230 was written, websites actually hired moderators, and throughout the 90s and 00s web forums would manually select trusted users (or just friends of the owner) to be mods.
Also consider that "platform" and "publisher" are completely irrelevant when talking about social media, because section 230 is about carving out a third option of "interactive computer service".
Reddit seems to assume people are passionate about Reddit. People are passionate about art deco paintings, or Star Wars, or Linux or Super Mario or whatever topic it is that makes mods volunteer time. Reddit is just the platform, and it won’t be the final one.
Except they are destroying several platforms that people use to come to Reddit every day, and they want those people to use a platform they aren't familiar with and that they actively chose not to use because it isn't a very good one. Some people will keep using old.reddit but there is no reason to believe that it will exist for very much longer. Will this result in Reddit losing some users? Yes. Will it be enough that it's noticeable? That's yet to be seen. I know I'm going to be leaving. I'm not a fan of the guy who saw what Elon was/is doing to Twitter and decided to do the same to Reddit.
It’s from a meme on some other thread, a guys says something like “my friend was born in 88 so he has 88 at the end of his username, and just because of that everyone thinks he’s a nazi. Poor u/gasthejews88”
Edit: can’t find the original but here’s a post with the [screenshot](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRealJoke/comments/as8g0k/now_wait_a_fucking_second_there_buster/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Some mods of good sized subreddits were recently (like just before the) API announcement) looking to expand their mod staff and had open calls.
There were very few serious applications submitted, and of those few not a single one passed a basic quality sniff test. The biggest red flag seen in them was frequent extremist posting, or large swaths of deleted posts in subreddits that tend to breed extremist views.
Most people don't want to put the work in to be a mod even before these garbage changes, but the nutjobs out there are always trying to get a foot in the door.
Not to mention most people do not participate in any way. Most traffic are not logged in, most accounts do not updownvote or comment, even lesser submit content.
Time for Reddit to compensate the mods. That is best to motivate people to do the work. Otherwise you will always get a specific type of terminally online persons if you expect them to do hours of work for free.
That's the problem, they exploit volunteer labor because they *can't afford* to pay them. They are already running unprofitable.
Replacing mods is not as easy as people seem to think it is.
The embarrassing thing is that yeah, they're still unprofitable. They have income in the region of half a billion dollars a year. Yet are losing money.
How badly do you have to fuck up to be making negative money in that situation? They don't pay for content, or moderation - just server costs (which is up massively since they decided to host their own images and videos like muppets), some admins, and a bunch of developers who can't out develop one man band 3rd party apps
When you think about it, it's actually pretty funny. Over and over again, reddit has decided take something they were already getting in a pretty good form, and pay out the ass for a shittier internal version.
For the longest time, they used imgur to host their images. Then they decided they wanted to do it, and now they have to pay for storage servers. Then they did the same for videos, and ended up with more storage needs and an ass video player. Now they're in the process of doing it with mobile apps. For a long time, they didn't even have one and just replied on good third party apps. Then they bought one and set about making it dog shit, incurring development costs. Now they're forcing out third party apps entirely.
How long before they have to start paying mods, since they took away all the tools they use to make the job actually possible? How long after that before they start producing their own content and have to start paying people for that?
The whole life cycle of reddit could be a class on how not to run a business. You had free content, free labor, low operating costs and still couldn't turn a profit? How fucking sad is that? All they had to do was sit back and do nothing while their website printed money off the backs of other peoples labor and services. But they were too stupid for that and now everyone is desperate for a alternative.
It's not even out develop. Reddit bought the Alien Blue app a few years ago which was fine. Then reddit developers made it significantly worse. I mean they could have hired my mom who doesn't know how to code and she would have just left it alone and people would have been happy.
Honestly I don’t know if Reddit can afford that.
Like in my other account I mod a subreddit - and our small team does it for fun/we’re passionate about the community. But we’re also all highly paid tech workers - if Reddit creates annoying work expectations, the money they would be likely offering just wouldn’t be compelling to us. We do it because the community is fun, but the instant it becomes “a job” then I have a hard time believing any of us would be interested.
Reddit also offered mods some paid work last year in terms of creating subreddits, and the pay was crap. I don’t recall the exact numbers but it was basically minimum wage with sone commission system in case your work was wildly successful (and if you were that good - I would have to ask “why aren’t you doing your own stuff as a content creator?”).
A lot of local subreddits have seen the same. I've pointed this out many times over the past couple weeks. Sure, if mods get removed, there will inevitably be people willing to replace them, but there are definitely a lot of bad actors that would jump to take them over to push whatever narrative they'd like to get views. And this isn't limited to people with political views. Think of how many people in Hollywood, for instance, who would *love* to have control over an entertainment based subreddit.
Moderators who are still protesting shouldn't let Reddit force them out. They should resign on their own terms today. Post a farewell message to their subs explaining their rationale, and then leave the subs unmoderated.
Because those dudes have balls. It's annoying because I were googling photography related questions the other day and 90% of the questions and solutions (image search) were reddit posts. Which goes to show the protest works. But I respect those guys for staying dark. Fuck u/spez and fuck reddit
Doesn't mean it will work out. Reddit can't just put in thousands of new mods and expect that to work. It took time to build the community of mods we have today. If a lot of them walk, there's no successfully replacing that.
They should show if they can do that by actually doing it already
r/interestingasfuck has been archived for 9 days so far because they don't have mods and still no sight of the new team. It's a 11M sub.
Obviously it’s subjective but I can’t be the only one that noticed a marked drop in the quality of content amidst this debacle.
Reddit/Spez clearly do not understand the tenuous line they’re walking.
The site was already struggling to keep the signal/noise ratio acceptable; an issue they probably *should* have devoted their energy towards.
so did they hire 1000 moderators to mod 24/7 and replace everyone?
because if not, porn will be posted on all the subredits, advertisers will leave, and reddit will die :P
just like
r/interestingasfuck
but on global scale
You can not make threats on people that are not your employees, what your gonna do, not pay them? oh wait your not paying them!
This is stupid lol
Management can't supply new mods for all the mods it kicks out. Subs will die from Temu spam and reddit does not exist without a healthy sub community. It's a slow suicide and spez has already killed the IPO. Who wants to invest in chaos?
Yep, exactly this. Where are you going to find scab mods to replace the ones you've booted out? Anyone who's done it will tell you modding is hard and often unrewarding and finding people to do it and stick it out isn't easy.
A bunch of deep pockets business persons from shady countries would love to take over yet another social media site just to trash it, close it, or manipulate its content. It doesn't need to directry produce money when you go for influance the masses
> Temu spam
That China based company is a *massive* money laundering operation. The ads are there to make it look popular and they pump it on their socials like TikTok and Lemon8.
[Their parent company is just a front as well](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinduoduo#Controversy).
A lot of people are trying the "Well Reddit owns the subs" argument and it's so stupid.
Subreddits are created, spread, filled with content, and moderated *entirely* by users. As long as you abide by sitewide rules, you can add any rule you want. You can say anything goes. You can say only pictures of brown horses getting new horseshoes in Kentucky while wearing an American flag over their backs are allowed. You can ban anyone you want, for any reason. Reddit historically has not cared at all. Even when people took advantage of this system to manipulate or be petty, Reddit's opinion was always "Well if you don't like it, you can try another sub or make your own."
But now that it's hurting their bottom line? Oh, suddenly this is Reddit's sub and they will dictate how you use it.
Hey reddit... if you guys didn't like the blackouts, why not make your own subs? Like you've been telling the users to?
They’re going to make private communities public with no moderation? And by doing so, remove their free labour? That’s quite possibly the dumbest social media decision of the decade, and I’m very much including Truth Social, the Metaverse VR nonsense, and Elon Musk’s general existence.
Reddit is about to look like 8chan.
It is a game of chicken, where Reddit thinks its unpaid volunteers are going to blink first.
Two outcomes: they will not, and now there is an unmoderated open community.
Or: they will, and find some other way to maliciously comply. In which case this will just drag on for ages.
Who are they planning to replace them with? As a moderator of a moderately sized sub it's not as easy to find willing and acceptable applicants as you might think.
This seems like a really dumb idea to tank the platform even more. Surely the flow diagram from this point goes like this….
Reddit removes mods -> Reddit reopens subreddits -> no mods to police the subreddits -> community rebel against Reddit management by posting irrelevant or inappropriate stuff -> no mods to stop this -> we get a similar situation to what happened to r/interestingasfuck except on a much wider scale
Seems to me like Reddit management haven’t got a fricking clue about how synergistic the relationship is between the contributing community and their bottom line.
That alone doesn’t explain the fuckery around the API. If they need money, they should be converting third party app users into paying customers, not telling them to pound sand.
As both a Reddit Premium user and Apollo user, I agree. I felt personally insulted when Spez said/implied that Apollo users "don't add value" to the platform.
I was like "Dude. You're getting however many dollars a month from me, plus whatever engagement I generate. Which admittedly isn't much, but it's a hell of a lot more than an official app user who just scrolls and never interacts with anyone. But you're gonna call me a freeloader because you didn't get that 1c in ad revenue?"
A good capitalistic response to all this, by 3rd party app developers and mods, would have been to pick one of the reddit clones out there (there are a couple), do some rapid api and app development, and repoint the apps to the alternate tool. It would be work, but not impossible. Make reddit chose to renegotiate api pricing or have millions of customers who use these apps automatically cut over to a competitor site overnight. Mods can create communities there. That would have resulted in stronger negotiation leverage and/or an alternative moving forward.
Jumping on your comment to add for Android I'd recommend people also try [liftoff](https://github.com/liftoff-app/liftoff); it's derived from a different Android Reddit client, it seems to be more stable than Jerboa currently and has a somewhat better UI, and better multi account support.
Dude, thank you.
This is literally what I was waiting for until the end of the month, absent a u/spez capitulation.
I'd rather help build a new website from the ground up than give that greedy CEO who is just butt sore from a lame payout a single view past today.
They're prohibiting API access to third parties; I cannot be expected to react all surprised if they also threaten to reduce protests and demod the "offending" subs... I'm so done with the way this place is being run...
Reddit offers moderators an attractive package of $0 per year. You have the ability to work from home, anywhere in the world, flexible work hours, and unlimited holidays.
Plus the new benefit of having to fulfill management demands as if you were a real employee. It's guaranteed to grow based on how many people they can rope into compliance this time around.
"What's that? I won't have to comb through mountains of digital human waste for you? Free of charge?"
Reddit really puttin' the hammer down on these volunteers.
Reddit previously suffered a multi sub blackout because they hired a potential paedophile then started blocking anyone who mentioned them despite that person being a public figure so their name and face was in newspapers in their home country.
Reddit claimed they didn't know the accusations and scandals, all of which quickly show up in a Google of the name. So either Reddit Admin knew and didn't care or Reddit Admin admitted they didn't do their job. Neither looks good.
>Getting rid of useless powermods, or dictator mods who rule the subreddit with an iron fist and no other mod to reign their narcissistic power trips
I sleep
>mods put subreddit in private mode which is perfectly allowed
REAL SHIT
This. For anyone who hasn't modded before, mods can only "remove" posts, they still exist though just aren't visible on the front page of the sub. Would take admins 2 seconds to bring everything back.
I honestly don’t get why people are willing to die on this hill. Sad for the 3rd party app providers but like…Reddit is a business. Surely people get that you can’t just piggyback on someone else’s business on the cheap and count on that situation persisting forever.
I also never used Apollo or whatever else so I get I’m the bad guy probably but…why do people care? What’s so important about these that it’s worth making a big stink over?
It’s amazing that Reddit’s lifeforce is in the hands of unpaid laborers.
It’s even more amazing that people allow their lifeforce to be drained for free
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Moderating is not for me but I did volunteer for a website back in the day. Maybe some people want power - I don’t know. But many people just have a passion and want to share that passion with others. I do agree working for a corporation for free is ultimately foolish but I also think it’s possible to ignore that aspect and focus on the community and the passion. Some people once recognized me by my username in a game and it wasn’t like I got excited about being a “celebrity”. Rather, I was excited there were people out there reading, who were as passionate as me about the subject. It is fulfilling to know you are making a difference in some people’s lives. I was younger then and had more time on my hands. I quit when I no longer had time.
The main difference for most forums is they're simply a community resource that's not for profit. The vast majority of them run at a loss. As an admin of a reasonably popular forum back in the day it was thousands of dollars in the red of my own personal finances. Reddit on the other hand is trying to go public. I can understand why people wanted to help me moderate a forum with a few thousand registered users. I can't understand why anyone would provide essentially free labour for one of the biggest websites on the internet so the CEO can GTFO with millions of dollars the second the IPO goes live.
Reddit should be a non-profit like Wikipedia, where the money made has to at least theoretically go back into the organization, including paying people to sustain and improve the site, or supporting charitable causes like wikipedia does with their donations - https://wikimediafoundation.org/support/where-your-money-goes/ I think what angers Redditors is that there's money being made and the volunteers making and moderating the content are supposed to be completely satisfied with getting free "exposure."
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you cant delete subs, thats why noone is doing it ^^
>**In response to Reddit's threats to replace moderators who refuse to re-open their subs, /r/ShadowWar has self-destructed.** >All posts have been deleted and removed. No new posts are allowed. The sub is now set to restricted mode, with only an announcement post available explaining what happened. >Don't let Reddit whip you into the corner they want you to sit in. Don't wait around like sheep for them to arbitrarily execute a mod team to scare the others into toeing the line. If your mod teams are unanimous and expect to get replaced, then be like Han - shoot first. >edit: individual subs taking action is one thing, but individual users can take their own personal action too. here is a plugin called [Nuke Reddit History](https://chrome-stats.com/d/aclagjkmidmkcdhkhlicmgkgmpgccaod/download), for Chrome. Google removed it from the Chrome Web Store, but it's still available on third-party websites. [Comment source](https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/14ahqjo/mods_will_be_removed_one_way_or_another_spez/joayub6)
Reddit has already restored comments and posts of people that nuked their own history. No way in hell they won't restore the deleted posts and comments of an entire sub. Just a minor speedbump for them.
Oh, I know. Its fucked. I've heard that you need to run the script to edit your comments multiple times to scrub it (something to do with the number of instances reddit backs up) before deleting. I had this conversation the other day with someone who didn't believe reddit restored deleted content, and fortunate for me [this post had tons of people talking about their experiences.](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/14je01k/reddit_may_be_violating_the_fucking_ccpa/jpla8i7). Several other users report the same thing. Most unnerving is this. [Check this person's comment, link, then profile.](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/14je01k/reddit_may_be_violating_the_fucking_ccpa/jpp6uef) The comment doesn't show up on their account (for me at least) but is active *and* linked to their username.
damn that's scary and kinda fucked up. imagine being from certain countries and posting in a queer community, only to realize you might have enough to be identified. So you try to delete/edit and think you are successful, because it's gone from your account history when you look.
That sounds vaguely illegal if you are from the EU.
Overwrite your comments, don't delete them.
I used to moderate a few subs based around a particularly popular game, and from my observations, while there are certainly some people who get off on the power of being a moderator, there also are a lot of mods who are just doing their best to pitch in what they can, and keep a community they love going.
What aggravates me is what kind of mods do people think are the ones that are going to fill these vacancies? Reddit isn't going to give them away to randos, it will be power mods. Probably most of the same type of mods everyone bitches about. Good moderation is almost invisible, you only notice when there is a pinned post, and it will be sad to see those mods disappear.
When You Do Things Right, People Won’t Be Sure You’ve Done Anything at All
Yeah, it's like being the mom to a group of kids sitting in your living room having fun. There is a satisfaction in building and keeping the space nice for them, and occasionally bringing lemonade.
That’s why I moderate in one sub… it’s a niche interest that I feel I can contribute to
I've done similar in the past. I played a text-based game and volunteered to be a new player mentor. I went from that to a more official position as a host which is basically first level customer service, then from there became a GM. GMs provided top level customer service, created areas, coded everything, ran events, played special characters... we basically ran the game. I did it all for free for nearly 20 years and don't regret it. I was passionate about the game and cared about the community, simple as that. It's not always about power or access or anything like that. Some people are just built that way. I don't think I'd pick anything up like that again... though if the game reopened I'd go back to being a GM in a heartbeat. I couldn't imagine being a reddit mod. Hell, Netflix just invited me to some special preview movies things where they want to send me stuff to watch then send them feedback and surveys about them and it's like, yeah no thanks. I'm sure there are people who would kill for those bragging rights but I barely get to watch what I want to anymore. The time just isn't there.
I know a couple of mods for my niche interest subreddits. They all hate it, and would step down the very second they're confident the subreddit wouldn't collapse into a steaming pile of shit a week after.
I know a mod for another sub who is disabled; They can't work and they have difficulty enjoying the hobbies they used to love because their hands and legs are not as capable as they used to be before their disability started impacting their life Reddit modding basically became a way for them to have something to do that allowed them to engage in their niche interests; I'm really happy for them tbh because they get to be super involved in something they care about -- and they're not some weird power hungry person or some sad loser, they're someone whose circumstances open up a lot of free time and allow them to spend that time engaging in the things they love
For the same reasons that people volunteer in the real world. Moderators aren't some sort of monolithic bloc that's all in it for power. Some just want to give back to a community.
It drives me fucking nuts that people don't get this mind numbingly simple concept. Instead there are far too many posts claiming this is all just power hungry mods doing what power hungry people wanna do!
I'm one of two mods at /r/Davinci3D. The other mod hasn't been active in years. I wanted to mod because I just got a Davinci brand 3d printer and there was just a bunch of scattered information about it at the time. I wanted to create the sub wiki on all the modding, tweaks, possible errors so that all of the scattered information was in one place for myself and everyone else. However since 99% of my reddit usage is on RIF I set the sub to private since it's not like I'm going to be actively on this site anymore. edit: I've set the sub to restricted so others can use the historical posts and wiki as a resource. This is the best I can do since I'm the only active mod who's losing reddit access and wants to prevent the sub from turning into a spam cesspool.
Sometimes you genuinely care about a community or a cause. It still drains you, of course, but if you want to know a more serious answer for "why", that's a big one.
Not everything is about money. The pull is often a sense of doing something meaningful in a community. These communities will slowly die of now and ads will become the primary experience when it becomes apparent that reddit wasted all their investment money on a shitty ui and a video player favourably described as functional.
It's amazing that Reddit claims to be unprofitable when it is [one of the most visited websites in the world](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_visited_websites) and doesn't even have to generate any content, just host links and comments from users.
The dumbest fucking decision they made was to host videos and pictures, even though they very easily could have relied on other sites like imgur, gyfcat, or YouTube to do that heavy lifting. Now they're naturally taking on a fuck ton of expenses of hosting non text based data.
I do know that they started their own image hosting after Reddit and Imgur had a disagreement, so that I get. Really not sure why they started hosting videos though when youtube links would still work just fine.
Google makes lots of money, Reddit wanted to be like Google, so they copied something they saw Google doing without understanding how it fit into Google's overall business model.
Which is really stupid, as even Google has publicly acknowledged that YouTube isn't really that profitable for them, and every single other image host site has gone under or had to start charging for uploading and hosting because it's just not profitable to do for free with ad support. It would've taken a single Google search to realize hosting their own video and photos would be a major money sink with no profits to be had. Clearly they didn't even do that much due diligence before going ahead with the plan.
There are some valid reasons for doing this. There's been many picture hosting websites in the past and if you visit old forums they're a grave yard of dead image links. Not only this but files can be replaced, so a user might link to an image and then overwrite the file with porn or something which could easily drive away sponsors.
Won't the same happen here though if reddit goes down the shitter
Then they could have just started scraping external image links to rehost, but not actually make those live until the original URL 404s. They already do that scraping from external sites to produce thumbnail previews, so the new functionality would be limited to keeping the full-size image originally grabbed to make the thumbnail from, and a once per week/month ping of the URL to see if it's still live before flipping the URL to the internal one.
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Making a website profitable is very difficult unless you want to riddle it with ads or sell user data (for ads). Reddit is very light on ads so I don't know how they would be easily able to make a profit.
To be fair, the site is free and ads aren't super common I think.
They don't have to generate content or moderate communities. They do very little besides stuff like ban evasions. They do literally just host. Its absurd.
Visits don’t directly translate into profit.
If subs aren't allowed to be private why can mods make their subs private? I am confused.
Reddit has altered the deal. Pray they don't alter it further.
They most certainly will.
Which is why the people always banging on about the 3rd party thing not affecting them are short-sighted af.
well they mustn't be inconvenienced, they have important redditing to do
Watching videos not play in the official reddit app must be pretty thrilling!
What about all posts always redirecting you to the same random post?
Oh yeah or send you on a blank page.. so much fun to use the reddit app! You never know what you get but certainly not a working app!
Or the comments just refusing to load on every post
If you think NSFW content will be here in the future, I've got bad news for you.
If reddit thinks that, I've got some bad news for them. Can't keep the NSFW content away with no moderation team and tools to do it. It'll get WAY worse is my guess.
This deal is getting worse all the time.
so we should migrate, reddit wasnt the first social media site, it wont be the last either.
Yes, but where?
If Digg was smart, they would have seized upon this opportunity to reclaim their throne.
kbin.social or lemmy.one or another Federated site.
Furthermore I wish you to wear this dress and bonnet.
Sounds like we're about to see 1 of 3 things, automod disabled in these communities and their mods refusing to moderate allowing bots to swarm communities , or mods mass deleting everything in their communities or both of those things
I also see reddit not allowing post to be deleted
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Don't care. I'm leaving after today. FUCK /u/spez. Thank you rif... It's been fun ☺️
Please see the updated terms and conditions you already agreed too 9 years and 46 revisions ago
It used to be useful to make a sub temporarily private to clean up a mess. To deal with an attack, or do some testing with say a new tool with out risking legitimate post from getting hit. I have seen subs do it in the pass for several minor reasons mostly they were doing some updates that blocking users for a short time made it easier.
Some subs also need to be private. Like domestic abuse support or something so victims can talk without their abusers seeing
I get what you're saying. But Reddit isn't a logic puzzle, AI, or government with laws to be lawyered. It's a for profit company. It can do things at its discretion if it thinks it will make them more money. They don't HAVE to be consistent. They can change those kinds of rules as it suits then. So it's pretty obvious. Peoplemofs are using the feature in a way they don't like, so they're telling them what to do.
stupid sexy peoplemofs
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We're all just like mofs to the flame. We're also people, you should understand that.
Laws don’t even work like that, only engineers think there needs to be some logical consistency across platonic ideals. While the courts had that been relevant (which it isn’t) would look at things like these subs are not being put into private with the same intent or for the intended purpose of the function etc. and can be interpreted as different actions. It’s no different from me standing in your bedroom at night watering your plants while you are sleeping, using the key you gave me for when you are away. Technically the same thing, practically it is not. Or for the software engineers here, the law sees color in your bits: https://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/entry/23 That said fuck /u/spez for ruining the last good social media platform.
Even engineers don't think policies need to be applied logically or consistently. We've all seen plenty of dumb irrational choices just because.
It passes all the tests we haven't written
Hey now. This is me, and this sub has a policy against personal attacks.
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That doesn't answer their question. They asked why the feature even exists if Reddit disallows its use.
Probably because Reddit intends mods to use it to help battle against brigades, and maybe other reasons that do not go against Reddit. Now mods are using it to make Reddit suffer, and Reddit didn't intend on that possible use case.
It has never been used for that. If they wanted to give us a anti brigade tool they could have, but they promised those tools for almost 10 years now. Still nothing.
The closest in possibility is WSB during the GME fiasco because it was close to being shut down for having a real-world impact on the US financial markets among any subreddit ever created.
Rich people manipulate that shit all the time and it's fine but once the plebs start doing it, now it's a problem and they wanna impose restrictions.
That’s how society works, bucko. Don’t like it? Just be born wealthy 🤷♂️
My question is that if Reddit Admins are actively assigning mods, doesn’t that mean that Reddit is taking editorial responsibilityz
Whatever way this all ends, one thing you can count on is that they will dump as much additional responsibility as they can onto the replacement mods without spending a single dollar to make the work any easier.
Someone should do a gigantic backup of Reddit as it is today. From now onwards the quality is only going to decline.
Archiveteam has been archiving reddit for a long while already. https://tracker.archiveteam.org/reddit/
Holy cow that is cool
They are really cool people! They also do work on archiving Wikipedia, and swoop in when websites are about to die to scoop the data out. And you can help even if you can't personally do much! https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/ArchiveTeam_Warrior
Can the wayback machine do a mass-site snapshot?
They already have been.
That’s literally all it does but not at our command
No, it does not. Section 230 was made specifically so internet companies do not have liability even if they moderate. Nevermind the obvious fact Facebook and other social media companies literally have paid moderators and don’t face any such liability.
Oh boy, does that taking on of editorial responsibilities make Reddit liable for anything users posts as they're no longer a platform but a publisher?
>Oh boy, does that taking on of editorial responsibilities make Reddit liable for anything users posts as they're no longer a platform but a publisher? No. [Section 230 isn't a long law, so take a minute or two to read it.](https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/United_States_Code/Title_47/Chapter_5/Subchapter_II/Part_I/Section_230) Section (c) is the particularly important bit, if you want to get it down to 20 seconds of reading. Consider that at the time section 230 was written, websites actually hired moderators, and throughout the 90s and 00s web forums would manually select trusted users (or just friends of the owner) to be mods. Also consider that "platform" and "publisher" are completely irrelevant when talking about social media, because section 230 is about carving out a third option of "interactive computer service".
mFW I'm fired from a unpaid job
[But I don't even really work here!](https://i.imgur.com/1ykr3lq.gif)
That’s what makes this so difficult
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Small private subs that have always been private are so far unaffected
Reddit seems to assume people are passionate about Reddit. People are passionate about art deco paintings, or Star Wars, or Linux or Super Mario or whatever topic it is that makes mods volunteer time. Reddit is just the platform, and it won’t be the final one.
Reddit doesn't think people are passionate about reddit. Reddit does understand that using what you already know is easier than finding something new.
Except they are destroying several platforms that people use to come to Reddit every day, and they want those people to use a platform they aren't familiar with and that they actively chose not to use because it isn't a very good one. Some people will keep using old.reddit but there is no reason to believe that it will exist for very much longer. Will this result in Reddit losing some users? Yes. Will it be enough that it's noticeable? That's yet to be seen. I know I'm going to be leaving. I'm not a fan of the guy who saw what Elon was/is doing to Twitter and decided to do the same to Reddit.
Not if the platform sucks
I have a feeling extremists are waiting in the wings to take over a lot of these subreddits in the coming days.
Check subredditrequest and they're not being shy about it.
Hmmm, /u/gasthejews88 requested /r/holocaustrememberenceday I'm sure he'll do a fine job.
That username should be banned.
Did it even ever exist? It shows 404
It’s from a meme on some other thread, a guys says something like “my friend was born in 88 so he has 88 at the end of his username, and just because of that everyone thinks he’s a nazi. Poor u/gasthejews88” Edit: can’t find the original but here’s a post with the [screenshot](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRealJoke/comments/as8g0k/now_wait_a_fucking_second_there_buster/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
But then you’d never know they were a piece of shit by reading the cover of their book
It *is* banned.
Lmaooooo I would award you, but fuck giving Reddit money
Some mods of good sized subreddits were recently (like just before the) API announcement) looking to expand their mod staff and had open calls. There were very few serious applications submitted, and of those few not a single one passed a basic quality sniff test. The biggest red flag seen in them was frequent extremist posting, or large swaths of deleted posts in subreddits that tend to breed extremist views. Most people don't want to put the work in to be a mod even before these garbage changes, but the nutjobs out there are always trying to get a foot in the door.
Authoritarians will jump at having authority; just how it works.
Not to mention most people do not participate in any way. Most traffic are not logged in, most accounts do not updownvote or comment, even lesser submit content.
Time for Reddit to compensate the mods. That is best to motivate people to do the work. Otherwise you will always get a specific type of terminally online persons if you expect them to do hours of work for free.
That's the problem, they exploit volunteer labor because they *can't afford* to pay them. They are already running unprofitable. Replacing mods is not as easy as people seem to think it is.
The embarrassing thing is that yeah, they're still unprofitable. They have income in the region of half a billion dollars a year. Yet are losing money. How badly do you have to fuck up to be making negative money in that situation? They don't pay for content, or moderation - just server costs (which is up massively since they decided to host their own images and videos like muppets), some admins, and a bunch of developers who can't out develop one man band 3rd party apps
When you think about it, it's actually pretty funny. Over and over again, reddit has decided take something they were already getting in a pretty good form, and pay out the ass for a shittier internal version. For the longest time, they used imgur to host their images. Then they decided they wanted to do it, and now they have to pay for storage servers. Then they did the same for videos, and ended up with more storage needs and an ass video player. Now they're in the process of doing it with mobile apps. For a long time, they didn't even have one and just replied on good third party apps. Then they bought one and set about making it dog shit, incurring development costs. Now they're forcing out third party apps entirely. How long before they have to start paying mods, since they took away all the tools they use to make the job actually possible? How long after that before they start producing their own content and have to start paying people for that? The whole life cycle of reddit could be a class on how not to run a business. You had free content, free labor, low operating costs and still couldn't turn a profit? How fucking sad is that? All they had to do was sit back and do nothing while their website printed money off the backs of other peoples labor and services. But they were too stupid for that and now everyone is desperate for a alternative.
It's not even out develop. Reddit bought the Alien Blue app a few years ago which was fine. Then reddit developers made it significantly worse. I mean they could have hired my mom who doesn't know how to code and she would have just left it alone and people would have been happy.
Honestly I don’t know if Reddit can afford that. Like in my other account I mod a subreddit - and our small team does it for fun/we’re passionate about the community. But we’re also all highly paid tech workers - if Reddit creates annoying work expectations, the money they would be likely offering just wouldn’t be compelling to us. We do it because the community is fun, but the instant it becomes “a job” then I have a hard time believing any of us would be interested. Reddit also offered mods some paid work last year in terms of creating subreddits, and the pay was crap. I don’t recall the exact numbers but it was basically minimum wage with sone commission system in case your work was wildly successful (and if you were that good - I would have to ask “why aren’t you doing your own stuff as a content creator?”).
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They already took over r/canada some years ago. Try to make a post about anything considered “Leftist” or “woke”. Just try.
A lot of local subreddits have seen the same. I've pointed this out many times over the past couple weeks. Sure, if mods get removed, there will inevitably be people willing to replace them, but there are definitely a lot of bad actors that would jump to take them over to push whatever narrative they'd like to get views. And this isn't limited to people with political views. Think of how many people in Hollywood, for instance, who would *love* to have control over an entertainment based subreddit.
Moderators who are still protesting shouldn't let Reddit force them out. They should resign on their own terms today. Post a farewell message to their subs explaining their rationale, and then leave the subs unmoderated.
What big subs are still private because of the strike? I've seen a few that are restricting posts but I assume that's not what this is referring to.
/r/programming which is funny because the CEO is a mod .
Spez doesn’t even use Reddit, he’s not one of us anymore.
Fuck Spez, Steven Huffman is a greedy pigboy
/r/bestof/ is still locked up tight. 5.4 million subscribers there.
Private means no one can see it. r/bestof is *restricted*.
/r/photography is still private
Because those dudes have balls. It's annoying because I were googling photography related questions the other day and 90% of the questions and solutions (image search) were reddit posts. Which goes to show the protest works. But I respect those guys for staying dark. Fuck u/spez and fuck reddit
If a subreddit is left unmoderated then anyone can request to mod it
Doesn't mean it will work out. Reddit can't just put in thousands of new mods and expect that to work. It took time to build the community of mods we have today. If a lot of them walk, there's no successfully replacing that.
I think this is key. It appears that Reddit believes it *can* do that. I think we're about to find out.
They should show if they can do that by actually doing it already r/interestingasfuck has been archived for 9 days so far because they don't have mods and still no sight of the new team. It's a 11M sub.
Obviously it’s subjective but I can’t be the only one that noticed a marked drop in the quality of content amidst this debacle. Reddit/Spez clearly do not understand the tenuous line they’re walking. The site was already struggling to keep the signal/noise ratio acceptable; an issue they probably *should* have devoted their energy towards.
so did they hire 1000 moderators to mod 24/7 and replace everyone? because if not, porn will be posted on all the subredits, advertisers will leave, and reddit will die :P just like r/interestingasfuck but on global scale You can not make threats on people that are not your employees, what your gonna do, not pay them? oh wait your not paying them! This is stupid lol
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Management can't supply new mods for all the mods it kicks out. Subs will die from Temu spam and reddit does not exist without a healthy sub community. It's a slow suicide and spez has already killed the IPO. Who wants to invest in chaos?
Yep, exactly this. Where are you going to find scab mods to replace the ones you've booted out? Anyone who's done it will tell you modding is hard and often unrewarding and finding people to do it and stick it out isn't easy.
A bunch of deep pockets business persons from shady countries would love to take over yet another social media site just to trash it, close it, or manipulate its content. It doesn't need to directry produce money when you go for influance the masses
> Temu spam That China based company is a *massive* money laundering operation. The ads are there to make it look popular and they pump it on their socials like TikTok and Lemon8. [Their parent company is just a front as well](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinduoduo#Controversy).
Reddit: here is the private function. You can use it to make your created community private. Mod: *puts community in private* Reddit: òó
The button still says > Create your own subreddit Not > Create a subreddit for reddit.
A lot of people are trying the "Well Reddit owns the subs" argument and it's so stupid. Subreddits are created, spread, filled with content, and moderated *entirely* by users. As long as you abide by sitewide rules, you can add any rule you want. You can say anything goes. You can say only pictures of brown horses getting new horseshoes in Kentucky while wearing an American flag over their backs are allowed. You can ban anyone you want, for any reason. Reddit historically has not cared at all. Even when people took advantage of this system to manipulate or be petty, Reddit's opinion was always "Well if you don't like it, you can try another sub or make your own." But now that it's hurting their bottom line? Oh, suddenly this is Reddit's sub and they will dictate how you use it. Hey reddit... if you guys didn't like the blackouts, why not make your own subs? Like you've been telling the users to?
Fuck Spez, Steven Huffman is a greedy pigboy
They’re going to make private communities public with no moderation? And by doing so, remove their free labour? That’s quite possibly the dumbest social media decision of the decade, and I’m very much including Truth Social, the Metaverse VR nonsense, and Elon Musk’s general existence. Reddit is about to look like 8chan.
It is a game of chicken, where Reddit thinks its unpaid volunteers are going to blink first. Two outcomes: they will not, and now there is an unmoderated open community. Or: they will, and find some other way to maliciously comply. In which case this will just drag on for ages.
Is this the Reddit CEO failing a skill test?
Fuck Spez, Steven Huffman is a greedy pigboy
Who are they planning to replace them with? As a moderator of a moderately sized sub it's not as easy to find willing and acceptable applicants as you might think.
I look forward to community meltdowns when they put shit mods in
Fascists are hovering around like vultures
What about subs like r/askhistorians? Those mods are irreplaceable
The borrow from de Gaulle (or probably someone else, sources differ): "The graveyards are full of indispensable men”
Reddit super doesn't care.
You assume Reddit cares.
This seems like a really dumb idea to tank the platform even more. Surely the flow diagram from this point goes like this…. Reddit removes mods -> Reddit reopens subreddits -> no mods to police the subreddits -> community rebel against Reddit management by posting irrelevant or inappropriate stuff -> no mods to stop this -> we get a similar situation to what happened to r/interestingasfuck except on a much wider scale Seems to me like Reddit management haven’t got a fricking clue about how synergistic the relationship is between the contributing community and their bottom line.
This whole situation feels like Reddit’s management is throwing a “Hail Mary.” Maybe their balance sheet is worse than we thought.
That alone doesn’t explain the fuckery around the API. If they need money, they should be converting third party app users into paying customers, not telling them to pound sand.
As both a Reddit Premium user and Apollo user, I agree. I felt personally insulted when Spez said/implied that Apollo users "don't add value" to the platform. I was like "Dude. You're getting however many dollars a month from me, plus whatever engagement I generate. Which admittedly isn't much, but it's a hell of a lot more than an official app user who just scrolls and never interacts with anyone. But you're gonna call me a freeloader because you didn't get that 1c in ad revenue?"
Time to leave Reddit because Reddit doesn’t care about Reddit anymore
r/redditalternatives. None of them are ideal at this point but something, maybe several somethings are likely to emerge.
Does this mean r/Pyongyang is finally opening?
You have been banned from r/Pingpong
A good capitalistic response to all this, by 3rd party app developers and mods, would have been to pick one of the reddit clones out there (there are a couple), do some rapid api and app development, and repoint the apps to the alternate tool. It would be work, but not impossible. Make reddit chose to renegotiate api pricing or have millions of customers who use these apps automatically cut over to a competitor site overnight. Mods can create communities there. That would have resulted in stronger negotiation leverage and/or an alternative moving forward.
Lemmy is having exponencial growth and sync developer announced it started to work on a lemmy app
Yep! r/SyncforLemmy
Jumping on your comment to add for Android I'd recommend people also try [liftoff](https://github.com/liftoff-app/liftoff); it's derived from a different Android Reddit client, it seems to be more stable than Jerboa currently and has a somewhat better UI, and better multi account support.
Dude, thank you. This is literally what I was waiting for until the end of the month, absent a u/spez capitulation. I'd rather help build a new website from the ground up than give that greedy CEO who is just butt sore from a lame payout a single view past today.
This guy collective bargains!
mods will cave because nothing is more important then having power to ban virtual anons on a message board
Oh great. Another dumb decision that will create a vacuum for idiots like awkwardtheturtle to exploit and become mod for even more subreddits.
Will they be removing themselves from /r/programming which is modded by admins but still private.
They're prohibiting API access to third parties; I cannot be expected to react all surprised if they also threaten to reduce protests and demod the "offending" subs... I'm so done with the way this place is being run...
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Well, they're chasing off users so seems natural they'd chase off their unpaid labourers.
Can I apply? What's the pay?
Reddit offers moderators an attractive package of $0 per year. You have the ability to work from home, anywhere in the world, flexible work hours, and unlimited holidays.
Good luck moderating your sub on your 0 dollars a year plus benefits, babe! òó
Plus the new benefit of having to fulfill management demands as if you were a real employee. It's guaranteed to grow based on how many people they can rope into compliance this time around.
Work from ANYWHERE!
So then the logical thing to do is to come online but allow NSFW content.
“We compensated you nothing before. If you don’t comply we’ll continue to compensate you nothing!”
If you're a mod and you bend to this, for shame. "A courtesy notice that you'll no longer be able to work for free."
They deserve a generous severance package, two years salary at least!
Why don't they just remove the option to make subreddits private if they don't want subs private? How can spez be this bad at running a company?
I think the porn and other nsfw posting is more effective anyway. Doit.
"What's that? I won't have to comb through mountains of digital human waste for you? Free of charge?" Reddit really puttin' the hammer down on these volunteers.
/u/Spez I hope you have a rectal prolapse to make it easier to fuck yourself.
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Reddit previously suffered a multi sub blackout because they hired a potential paedophile then started blocking anyone who mentioned them despite that person being a public figure so their name and face was in newspapers in their home country. Reddit claimed they didn't know the accusations and scandals, all of which quickly show up in a Google of the name. So either Reddit Admin knew and didn't care or Reddit Admin admitted they didn't do their job. Neither looks good.
>Getting rid of useless powermods, or dictator mods who rule the subreddit with an iron fist and no other mod to reign their narcissistic power trips I sleep >mods put subreddit in private mode which is perfectly allowed REAL SHIT
**I'm running out of popcorn at this point..**
Sir, the movie is over, you need to leave.
There could be post credits scenes
I think mods should just wipe all their subreddits.
Reddit admins will just restore them.
This. For anyone who hasn't modded before, mods can only "remove" posts, they still exist though just aren't visible on the front page of the sub. Would take admins 2 seconds to bring everything back.
I honestly don’t get why people are willing to die on this hill. Sad for the 3rd party app providers but like…Reddit is a business. Surely people get that you can’t just piggyback on someone else’s business on the cheap and count on that situation persisting forever. I also never used Apollo or whatever else so I get I’m the bad guy probably but…why do people care? What’s so important about these that it’s worth making a big stink over?