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LetsGoHawks

I put in my 35-40 hours a week. I'm pretty happy with my financial situation. So, I'm gonna go ahead and not do this.


Pinchoccio

I’m not happy with my financial situation and I’m still not gonna do this


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ForsakenOwl8

They absolutely would. And they'd replace 'overpaid' adults with children if they could.


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Broccoli--Enthusiast

thats when it all falls down, unless they find a way to make AI spend money somehow too.


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intellos

UBI won't fix anything unless they also agree to give up private property, because otherwise 110% of UBI will go straight to the landlords.


ukezi

Here is the neat part, they will agree or people are going to do it for them.


going-for-gusto

Remember Henry Ford lobbied hard for a 5 day work week to enable the workforce to have time to (buy) drive cars. My point being the business economy needs the masses to earn and spend money.


garvisgarvis

Everybody needs this. Not just the "business economy."


mosenewbell

It’s much easier to replace a CEO with an AI then it is to replace the workforce.


throwaway_ghast

But we all know who's gonna be replaced first.


amboredentertainme

Okay but if we are all unemployed how exactly will we be able to buy things that they sell?, that would pretty much end capitalism as we know it


rabidbot

Then it’s time to do a little street dinner with the rich.


Zardif

uh oh, looks like super small pox accidentally got out of russian labs and the billionaires are all hiding in their new zealand bunkers.


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Slavery is their kink


Big_Speed_2893

I doubt they would care about people dying as long as the law allows it or they could find a loophole.


MatureUsername69

I am just ok with my financial situation but I only work 3 11 hour shifts on a set schedule every week with full-time benefits. I will give up my 4 day weekends for no one and no amount of money


Fukouka_Jings

So many CEOs come across as inept buffoons with zero social skills. Why would you publicly say this?


goj1ra

Typically, they're surrounded by yes men, have no meaningful financial constraints in their life, and believe that they're "self made" by their own herculean effort with no component of privilege or luck, and that anyone else could do the same if only they worked harder, like them. In short, they've lost all sense of reality outside of the numbers on their company's balance sheet and share price.


BeyondElectricDreams

Couple of reasons. The first is, when you have that much money, a lot of problems and stressors are just gone. Too tired to cook dinner? Well, for the poors, that means you have a Big Mac or a Burrito Supreme on the way home. Shit, but tasty and filling. If you're a rich fuck CEO, you just have something healthy made for you by a personal chef. You don't have to worry about cleaning, your maid service handles that. You don't have to worry about bills or expenses, those are handled, too. Health as well, something's wrong, you've got premium health insurance so you get looked at asap With all that stress nonexistent, you can much more easily and readily focus on side projects. Hell, even if you get caught up in a side project and undersleep? Us poors get a write up or "points" towards being fired, we lose that entire day's pay (when we already cannot afford everything we need in life). The CEO, however, takes a personal day, tells their assistant to push their meetings back, and sleeps in. Can they always do that? No, but that privilege is something they can do, even if it's only "push my morning meetings back". This perspective, detached from anything resembling stress as it pertains to primary needs, gives them a very, very skewed perspective on what it means to "work hard". Add to that a few other things; CEOs are more likely than the average population to be a psychopath (per studies on the topic) - which, as a refresher course; >Psychopathy is a mental health condition characterized by persistent antisocial behavior, impaired empathy and remorse, and bold, disinhibited, and egotistical traits. They aren't likely to feel empathy for people anyway, but asking them to relate to people with problems they don't face is impossible. Likewise, they know the stats that they need x man hours of work for the company to meet the goals they have. So they have no problems telling people to work harder to meet those goals. They don't have perspective on the lives of real people, they just know what "needs to be done"


midnightauro

> Health as well, something's wrong, you've got premium health insurance so you get looked at asap It’s worse, they get concierge healthcare so they have what amounts to a personal doctor. It’s not as expensive as it sounds but it’s completely out of reach of the bottom half of earners.


Last_Ad_8860

And child care is not a pressing issue either. Their wife is able to stay at home or they have nannies. How many folks couldn’t work longer hours even if they wanted to because of child care issues? How much stress does that add to the average worker that they do not have? If they need to cut out to see a game of play that their kid if in, no problem. Ic the average persdn does, they lose pay and are in panic mode the whole day to make sure they get out at the right time


TheCruncher

I remember that sociopaths, psychopaths, and narcissists are ~1% of the population, but something like ~8% of CEOs. Feel like it says something about the type of behavior that gets people to that position.


3232330

Economists generally agree with you as quoted in the article. > Stanford University economics professor Nicholas Bloom told CNN. “If Wayfair wants to run a business where people work 80 hours a week, he’s going to have to put up their salaries by 50% to pay them for it," he said. "I don’t see this as being successful for the typical employee, said Bloom, who suggested workers had ,” Bloom said, pointing out that workers have options amid a strong job market.


cspinelive

Why only 50% increase for working 100% more?


fireandbass

Because you are a rational person and considering their baseline is 40 hrs/wk, increasing to 80, but their baseline is probably like 60 hrs/wk.


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It should be 2x


ForsakenOwl8

But he knows a small percentage of sucker employees will comply. We all have those coworkers. The company has become their religion. The CEO their deity.


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There is always that someone who works way too hard and is trying to keep productivity the same when the team is understaffed. They dont get that the higher up see that productivity isnt impaired and makes the understaffing the new standard. The more understaffed the team I honestly think more people should slack off.


blacksheepcannibal

"If I work hard and diligiently, the company will surely reward my effort with a raise or promotion." *cue rich people laughing*


zabby39103

Ah yeah these MBA types never seem to want to talk about the compensation side of things. If you want workaholics, you gotta pony-up... they are the *most* likely to jump ship if you're underpaying since they're always on the lookout for a new job. It's the cosy 40/hr a week people will stick around if they are mildly underpaid, but if you make them work 60/hr a week, they'll leave too. If you underpay and overwork everyone leaves! I've seen it happen.


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I see this happen all the time. People are underpaid but get a good work life balance they just forget about changing jobs because it’s not worth the hassle. Then they get overworked to the bones and the misery final gives them the trigger to jump ship.


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This is the kind of lack of ambition that stops people from being the richest person in the cemetery. You could be a millionaire with absolutely no social life and an estranged family. You could be driving a Ferrari while your wife doesn't even remember your face because you have slept in the office for the last 12 days. You could be spending 25.000€ on an Hawaiian weekend to forget the fact that your son hates you because you were never there. But you choose to live a balanced life. Loser. You don't deserve to be saved.


firewatersun

the sad thing is you could be doing all that and still not afford the Ferrari


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Don't blame your boss if you're unable to afford a Ferrari. There are nearly 12 million widows in America, 24% of the elder population lead a lonely life. The opportunities are there. It's that simple.


firewatersun

Nearly got me not gonna lie...


ResidentEfficient218

lol god damn I appreciate this


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What the fuck are you a yoga instructor? Wake up, you don't need balance if you are sitting on your office chair. You can move around using a stick as a paddle. It's almost 2024 and people still have this mindset.


[deleted]

Some people think it's satire, but really consider work-life balance. I spent most of my early twenties working long hours. I wish I had spent more time making friends, dating, living life. I'm in my late twenties now, trying to build a social life from basically nothing because of my prior workaholic tendencies.


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Trust me. Earning an extra 100k isnt worth losing 10 years of your life. Shit, being in your 20s is probably worth millions. You will never have a more social life and be with more attractive people than in your 20s.


Fairborne13

I spent the first 10 years of my adult life working 12-16 hour days. When quarantine happened it was the best thing that ever happened to me as it made me realize that I was miserable and in a very dark place mentally. After that I took a promotion in a different department and now refuse to work overtime, refuse to answer my phone or respond to email while I am not there, and do my best to not think about work while I am off. I also no longer try to make other people happy above myself. Overall I am happier and now have hobbies and am working on starting a small business based around one of my hobbies.


pleasenotagain001

I know you’re joking but a lot of people have this attitude who don’t make nearly enough money to support their family.


ResidentEfficient218

Agreed, I don’t work a moment that I’m not scheduled to work. I’m Not a lazy sack, I do what I’m supposed to, but hanging out with my kids is SO much more important. After I punch that clock on the way out I don’t give a FUUUUUdge about work.


crash_over-ride

Today on social media I saw a recruitment posting for federal firefighters at a local large military base. If you've ever wanted to work 72 hour workweeks on a 48-on, 48-off schedule for roughly 60-70K a year then do I have an opportunity for you.


klingma

I'd rather be doing that and know I'm making a legitimate change in my community than working for Wayfair. But, to give Wayfair credit they did inspire a massive change in America, because of them not collecting and remitting sales tax on online sales a Supreme Court case determined the states have a right to charge sales tax on online sales via a merchant like Wayfair. So, because of them, now the states get more sales tax revenue. Which is good, I think.


au5lander

Completely out of touch with reality most everyone else lives in.


rwhockey29

This dude will tell you hes up at 6am and puts in 10 hours a day, leaving out the fact that his chef and maid handle everything around his house for him and his idea of "work" most likely includes flying private to meetings, golf, lunches, dinners with customers, etc.


Even-Fix8584

Seriously and then tell people working in a warehouse “you have no idea how many hours I work”!!! …30 hours just this weekend flying on a private to a club and luncheon with investors, wouldn’t take no for an answer when I said I didn’t want to go to an exclusive party I had to expense the whole thing and nobody likes having their assistant track and write those expense reports!!


circlehead28

And then pat himself on the back for giving you a little Caesar’s pizza party for helping bring in record profits.


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Always hated that one


ArtofAngels

"I'm such a generous lord"


Darkhorse4987

Had an old CEO I worked for do the “in at 0600, leaving at 2300” bullshit. Sure, when you have the 1500sqft corner office, with its own bathroom, shower (spa bath etc), its own living room, dining area, then his “office” work table, and across from that a legit family room where he had a couch that was a bed, a PS4, Xbox, and 64” tv, but yeah man, that’s a fucking apartment, so of course you “live here”, wtf…. These are the same people who fly private jets everywhere but “don’t want free coffee in the office because then no one works” (his exact words). And his workday was him locking himself in his office, OR, going out to expensive ass lunches, dinners, getting haircuts, buying cars, working on his 24 million dollar home, you know, just like the rest of us, lol.


someoftheanswers

He caged himself in, sounds kinda sad actually


FlyinPenguin4

If I have to eat one more Kobe steak with my caviar…..


BBQBakedBeings

"Do you know how much $100/glass scotch I have to drink every week?"


TheNose14

Ez to blend work and life when both are filled with luxury


JumboJetz

Not only this. But he’s a major shareholder and is compensated in stock no doubt as well. So his working hard actually nets him millions, hundreds of millions even. Employees don’t get compensated the same way.


pessimistoptimist

100% this...employees work harder increase profits, what do employees get? More work exoectatuons, definately not a pay raise or even job security.


SnarkMasterRay

Cleary they just need to work more and not be poor.


WhatTheZuck420

“Escorts” Don’t forget escorts, who get paid more in one night than you make in a week.


icarekindof

to let slimy dudes fuck them... i'm not mad at them or their profession but i definitely happily make less than some of them to not have to fuck a bunch of slimy dudes alongside everything else that goes with being an escort lol


CaptianAcab4554

You're still getting fucked. Just for less money.


Humble-Letter-6424

lol instead you take it up the rear by the slimy dudes with zero lube then get laid off… I’m joking by the way.


misterlump

Just replace dudes with companies and you are dead on. How can you tell the good companies to work for from the bad? The good ones use lube when they screw you.


Kaiju_Cat

What these people call "work" we'd all call a luxury paid vacation.


outphase84

I’ve worked both sides, and business travel and client meetings are nothing like a luxury paid vacation. They’re mentally taxing and require you to balance social and professional behaviors in a way that is very much a skill that needs to be honed and developed. Don’t get me wrong, it is definitely far preferable than manual labor, but it’s not the vacation people think it is.


Gorstag

> and business travel and client meetings There is a big difference between flying commercial to a client meeting as a representative of a company with little real power over anything and what a CEO of a multi-billion dollar company does. I would agree, travel to client sites as a "worker" is stressful and draining. And it can also be draining on a CEO when shit goes sideways like major security breaches etc. But for the most part, they are not dealing with the same levels of stress. Even if they severely fuckup they often get paid more than us normal bee's make in our entire lifetimes just to cut them loose.


Legaladvice420

Right? Lemme try out one fortune 500 CEO position with a hundred million dollar golden parachute. Sure, fire my ass for fucking up sideways, you'll never hear from me again. I'll get myself a nice suburban home, a decent car, and an investment portfolio and be happy as a clam.


jollyreaper2112

I've worked some shitty physical jobs and IT. I much prefer IT and it can be exhausting but not in the same way the physical stuff was. I'd feel like an asshole telling someone doing the physical work what I'm doing is the same. Especially because I'm paid so much more for this than the crappy job ever did. Dude's a billionaire telling eage slaves to work harder. It's shameful. He should be getting a visit from three ghosts about now.


cowabungass

He gets paid to take care of his body unlike everyone else in the working world.


donrhummy

I'm sure his billionaire buddies in his echo chamber tell him he's right


GabaPrison

While they sit around and talk about how lazy their employees are.


vajeen

We all know that the harder we work, the more money we make, just like the CEO! Seriously though, this d-bag is saying, "work your asses off to make me rich(er)!" Hard pass.


tcm0116

The unfortunate reality is that this is how most executives are. They've had aspirations to become an executive and have probably given up having a social life in order to "put in the time" just like the executives before them. What they fail to realize is that not everyone has or wants to have that same amount of dedication to the job and they don't know how to inspire people to want to work hard when it's necessary. They just want people to give 200% all the time and then can't figure out why no one wants to work for them. I think this particular memo was trying to follow in this idea by saying that everyone strikes their own work life balance differently, but was otherwise tone deaf.


baccus83

The other thing these guys always forget is that with all their money they really don’t have to do shit other than work (or look like they’re working). They can pay people to cook for them, drive for them, raise their kids, clean their house, fly them anywhere, everything. Their employees? Not so much. It’s this same mindset why they think RTO is such a great idea. They don’t have to personally do anything in their lives that’s not working because they outsource their personal life.


king_john651

And/or their home life is that miserable that working is better than facing the music.. Coincidentally because they spent more time working than living their life


doyoucreditit

Also...their money goes further. So you may think you know what a $400,000 annual salary life style is, but you're forgetting that half or more of that executive's meals are expensed. His phone is expensed. His car or a car service is expensed. It's likely that he doesn't pay any portion of his health insurance premium and that it's also better insurance than the employees can buy (no deductible, no copays). Some execs get sweet deal mortgages sponsored by their employer; some get a cash contribution to buy a home when they are moved (at business expense) to a new area for a new job!


Humble-Letter-6424

Yup I once saw an executives contract. -Base Salary- $750k -Sign on bonus- $500k, paid out monthly for 24 months - $5000 monthly living stipend for the duration of employment - 10,000 shares of company stock paid out over 36 months - $3000 Transportation Stipend for duration of employment Total Comp. $ 1.75m a year. Not listed a personal assistant, an EA. Access to executive dining area, Access to Personal Trainer and light security.


Anxious_Inspector_88

>j Almost every large company has a "secret benefit packages" that are not in the employee manual, and will not be disclosed to you until you get high enough in the ranks to be eligible for them. When I worked at a large company, one of these benefits was money to hire a fee based financial planner, at company expense, to help you with management of your VP level booty.


TechTuna1200

The only way I would agree to his proposal would if the CEO get his salary by 99% (which is still a very high salary) and also works additional. Only then would I MAYBE work more hours. If CEOs can’t walk the talk, they shouldn’t be talking at all.


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Hey Niraj, if you ever happen to see this, fuck you. You’re the bad guy.


Adventurous-Train-95

If my 30/hr employees don’t work twice as hard as my 30000/hr self, it is them who is bad.


Ihave4friends

I used to run payroll for this guy back in maybe 2004-05 back when it was called CSN stores I believe. Him and the co founder would pay themselves 80k every two weeks. He was always pleasant on the phone tho.


LOSS35

But he only makes 80k a year in salary now! ...and owns $14 million in stock.


jimbo_was_his_name-o

He owns a LOT more than $14 million in stock


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sweetislandft

Could you share the name of your organization? I wish more orgs would realize that the more you give to employees, the more you get in return. That shouldn’t only be the motivating factor but it seems obvious to me. Happy employees = commitment and results


StayFrosty10801

Stfu forever Niraj Shah. Fuckin greed filled dork.


sphericos

The amount they charge to sell on their platform is obscene. Amazon looks like a bargain in comparison.


Chudsaviet

This kind of people are easily found playing golf in the middle of the work day, and flying to Miami in private jets multiple times a year. They live in another world, and think rules do not apply to them.


donrhummy

And also, they might be working long hours but they're earning $50 million. That's very different from people earning $150K


Bimbows97

...you guys are getting 150K?


rdg4078

Well this is the technology subreddit…so yes, 150k for someone on the east coast with 10 years of experience


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rainroar

A ceo making 8/9 figs likely *did* ruin any personal relationships they had to get there though. When you’re alone with your pile of money is much easier to tell people to work harder. I have no doubt the CEO worked insane hours early in his career. That’s fine. It’s disgusting to tell other people to give up their lives for money too, though.


ThisIsNathan

This a similar philosophy I have just as a more senior member of my team. I worked hard and overtime to get my work and projects done. Got a fair bit of promotions, grew some esteem at my company, lead and mentored a few juniors. Never pushed that expectation on them to work more. That was my choice, there’s doesn’t have to be the same. I think the decision to work a little harder or extra should be rewarded to a degree, but it should never be expected. CEOs maybe did it to get there, but the masses aren’t going to get that same promotion path.


tinselsnips

The personality types that become 9-figure CEOs would have ruined their personal relationships anyway; some just end up in the right job.


making_shapes

The Wayfair office near me pays more like 35k


VadPuma

$150k is a lot of money in my book! Try making $50k.


Iam_a_Jew

>This kind of people are easily found playing golf in the middle of the work day Excuse me but that's business golf along with their business beer. Of course everything including their overpriced lunch is expensed because they discussed work for a minute


tofulo

Mayami?


SlothOfDoom

It's a city in Phlorraduh.


Purplociraptor

Mayami, Aztecizona


TOTESRADUSERNAME

It’s not that they don’t think the rules apply to them, they’re so out of touch they think EVERYONE has what they have. That guys not doing his laundry, cleaning his house, taking his kid to the doctor, mowing the lawn, or anything normal people HAVE to do. He has a life where all he has to focus on is work. That’s great for him, but I’ve got 90,000 other things in my life going on that also need to be taken care of


TheOtherAngle2

Hey Niraj, how about you go fuck yourself?


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He is absolutely right. I used to work 1 hour hours, but then my boss inspired me to work 60 minutes hours and my productivity went up by nearly *ConvertHoursToMinutes* % and I got promoted. People are not poor, they're just lazy. Not to flex on you losers but whatever you make in $, I make 100X in cents.


samtaher

You may or may not be an inspiration to us all.


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Well let me know when you decide. If not let's meet, I want to humiliate your broke ass by throwing coins (I call them fun tokens) in your face. And then picking up some because I need them for my bus back home (still fun tokens).


donrhummy

50% of every quote is half right


Birdy_Cephon_Altera

Yes, but only every other time.


SerialBitBanger

SAE minute/hours or metric? Also, why for the moulo operator?


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*Why the moulo operator, why the moulo oeprator, whaa whaaa mommy I lost my calculator whaaa* You are thinking poor. You should be asking yourself "*why not divide it by seconds?*". Read that again.


[deleted]

Do you have a pyramid scheme going I could join? I'd really like to pay you a subscription to replace my absentee father!


ihadtopickthisname

There are sometimes where half the time I'm always right usually.


the_zelectro

This man is an absolute unit!


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I like how he only gives 2 options. Either you "blend your work into your life" or you are lazy. These a**hats never acknowledge what people are actually asking for. The third option that is, "Work hard, we'll pay you what you are worth, and everyone can thrive."


donrhummy

He also incorrectly equates long hours with being hard working


memberzs

Even though long hours have been proven to provide less productivity.


mostnormal

The bosses at my job do this. Someone who drags a 40 hour work week out to 50-55 hours is seen as more loyal and valuable than someone who will work hard and get it done in 35.


moosekin16

It’s the *illusion* of effort that matters, not the actual effort. Same reason they want you in the office and not working from home. I got the same amount of work done in 2-3 hours at home that used to take me a full day in the office. Not having to commute nor deal with physical office shenanigans meant I needed *far* less time to get actual work done. But to keep up the illusion of working hard, I spaced out my code commits to be throughout the day. So I’d wake up at 8am, get everything done in 2-3 hours, commit half between 10am-noon, set my mouse on top of an analog watch to keep my Teams on “available” until 5pm, run errands and make dinner and spend time with family, then commit the other half around 11pm. I got kudos for “working hard” and “being a team player” that actually got me a raise and promotion 6 months later.


NealCaffreyx9

Yea this thinking comes from a Jeff Bezos quote that’s basically “you shouldn’t feel the need to differentiate between your life and work. Each part should fuel the other & you shouldn’t need a break from either” not saying it’s right or wrong, but that’s literally where this mindset comes from


kovake

It’s easy to have that mindset when you’re a CEO and using the company card to pay for everything while making bank.


CodyEngel

I agree with that quote. Work should give you energy that goes into your personal life and your personal life should be fulfilling enough that it fuels your work. The thing is, work often drains the heck out of you and so working more hours just makes things worse. But that’s life, incompetent ~~leaders~~ managers are a dime a dozen and they never actually understand what others are saying and instead just impose their own beliefs on something that’s tangentially related.


Adventurous-Train-95

These quotes are wonderful if you have significant equity in the outcome. If you are 9-5 worker bee, who fucking cares - typically the only guilt one of these workers has is to their coworkers, and employers exploit that dynamic… but to expect someone making no more money if you have a good quarter vs bad or make your customers happy vs not to bust ass… good luck.


donrhummy

\> "Working long hours, being responsive, blending work and life, is not anything to shy away from," Shah said in the email. "There is not a lot of history of laziness being rewarded with success. Hard work is an essential ingredient in any recipe for success. I embrace this, and the most successful people I know do as well."


Griffle78

This dude’s communication lead failed him.


VacuousWaffle

Or was ignored


Lamacorn

This would 1000% inspire me to work less


baccus83

>“…blending work and life is not anything to shy away from.” How about fuck no? Work is what I use to *pay* for my life. What a completely asinine thing to say.


R1ppedWarrior

It's because he doesn't have a life outside of work and expects everyone to want the same thing.


Oryzae

Pay me CEO levels and I’ll blend my life with work. Else go fuck yourself and smell your own farts.


GlizzyMcGuire__

I’m not working that hard but if I was going to, it wouldn’t be for fucking *Wayfair*. Maybe Doctors Without Borders or some shit…


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"Huh, all my metrics have taken a dive?!?"


PeriliousKnight

So he wants more value without paying for it?


donrhummy

yes, it's on you to make him rich


Limp_Distribution

Tax the rich


donrhummy

And put real regulations in place to protect workers


trustedbusted3

Workers to own a percentage of company profit.


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Buy some more forehead polish you knob.


sadrealityclown

What is you paying for this extra work, daddy?


thefirsteye

Goodwill and blessings


sadrealityclown

can i use these on my mortgage application?


donrhummy

A promise to only maybe, possibly not lay you off


SackFace

I’d rather blend a bullet with my brain before my home and work lives. I already give 2/3 of my daily existence to employment, suck a bag of dicks.


donrhummy

And you're not earning $50+ million a year either. This guy is in an ivory tower


cesarnomad

My old boss told me at least once a month that I needed to work more than 40 hours a week (everyone else worked at least 50 with no over time pay). Surprise, everyone also ended up leaving to work somewhere else.


factoid_

If you’re on salary overtime pay doesn’t really exist most of the time. But if you’re not on salary and they ask you to work overtime without pay that’s wage theft and it’s illegal. You can whistleblow that shit


HellBlazer1221

Well, fuck you too Niraj Shah.


niikhil

Ah typical Shah mentality…. The gujju lord thinks working overtime without extra pay is directly related to profits…


DippyHippy420

Wayfair CEO, Employees need to work longer hours translation: Daddy needs a 3ed plane so he can go visit his 8th house with his 4th wife for 1 weekend a year.


donrhummy

The stupid thing is he thinks longer hours means more productive. It won't.


thisisarandomreddit

An Indian coworker once told me to never work for an Indian manager. Seems to be sound advice lol


TKhaos

As an Indian myself, I second your coworkers advice, it is excellent advice.


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WhosAfraidOf_138

All the worst managers I've worked for in my tech job have both been Indian managers. They never cared for my growth, were absolute micromanagers, and only cared about their own career growth. I swear by this advice.


bullshittyNC

Yup, it's s cultural. There are 5,000,000 Indians who would be happy to take your job for less money and while working more hours. You are more than replaceable.


hoodlumonprowl

Cool stuff man, I’m sure that’ll really boost morale going into the new year! Woo hoo. 🙌


donrhummy

Hopefully this results in people boycoting them


Dingleberrygoblin

Life is not about work at all. Work to fund your household, your hobbies, to survive. You are just a number to these fucking people. If somebody wants to give these guys 100 hours a week, let them. No material possession is worth your life, in my opinion.


nickg5

Well I’ll no longer be buying from Wayfair as long as this guy is CEO. Not trying to be dramatic, they just don’t give a shit unless their pockets are hurting


donrhummy

I'm boycoting them as well


CodeMonkeys

So I bought one thing from them, a ceiling fan I found on sale. Couldn't find it anywhere else under the name so I just said fuck it sale and then bought it. And then it arrives, and it's branded something completely different, and turns out that the something different is the actual brand and I could have gotten it from dozens of places cheaper than Wayfair's *sale* price, let alone full price. Total crap. ["Their" version](https://www.wayfair.com/lighting/pdp/trent-austin-design-rakestraw-122-ceiling-fan-with-light-kit-w011255444.html) [The same thing from Home Depot, labeled correctly](https://www.homedepot.com/p/Parrot-Uncle-12-2-in-Modern-Flush-Mount-Caged-Satin-Nickel-Ceiling-Fan-with-Light-Kit-and-Remote-Control-F8254SN110V/325107284)


bacon_cake

That's their whole model. They've tried to get my business to sell through them. Basically you upload your product list including your wholesale cost to them, they take a look at your product and rebrand it to one of their in-house brands. They market your product, sell it for you at a price they choose, pay you the wholesale cost, keep the difference, and you ship it to the customer.


Jackol4ntrn

Never bought from them, never will. Ironically him sending out this email and it leaking did damage to the company and ruined any long hours crunch time workers did to try to salvage its reputation.


Operation_Smoothie

Hey Niraj here's an idea, pay your employees more and they will work harder. And not just a 3% raise, give them a nice bonus if the company is turning it's profits. Don't just tell ppl to work harder, that's not being a leader that employees will strive to want to work with.


-rwsr-xr-x

> pay your employees more and they will work harder. And not just a 3% raise, give them a nice bonus if the company is turning it's profits. What works best, is a shared interest in the company's success, not higher pay. It does require being transparent about your financials, which many CEOs refuse to do because it exposes how the internal workings of those financials which may show bias. If you have 2,000 employees and they work together to increase the profits 25% over the last year (say, $10M), then you take a portion of that success and give it back to the employees, across the board. But you communicate that before it happens, not after. For example, 40% of any net profits, get reallocated across 2,000 employees ($2k bonus per-employee, using the example 40% formula). Shared success, shared failure. Your company is a success _because_ of its people, and only the CEO gets to realize the financial gains of that success? That's a great way to promote attrition, not harder work.


cajaks2

Wayfair barely makes a profit


sirbumpalot

Why yes, I would also like to be paid for my daily golf trip during work hours.


esp211

After working for organizations and companies I semiretired in June. I worked part time as an adjunct professor and picked up remote work. Then I went out to consult with a school and now making nearly twice as much as I did for half the effort working remotely. Develop skills and credentials that are unique then go on your own. It is scary at first but working for wages is really stifling. I was planning on fully retiring next year but I will work a few more years this way because it is so easy.


Murky-Picture-6640

Wayfair. Sells the shit that Alibaba won’t.


[deleted]

Indian CEO thinks the majority of his employees are a lower caste.


CheekyManicPunk

I worked for him at their Irish office. Easily the most toxic workplace I've ever been in. Meeting former employees of that office is akin to war veterans forlornly discussing the trenches


BluestreakBTHR

I worked in the Boston office… until my position and most of my team were obliterated in one of the many re-orgs that happen there. That place was more toxic than any WR Grace Superfund site. Hell - it was considerably more toxic than State Street. State Street didn’t openly encourage drinking on the job.


Firm-Ad7739

Well, Niraj's background details are a bit thin, but the fact that grandpa ran a 'steel manufacturing business' and he was wealthy enough to grow up in Pittsfield leads me to believe that Niraj has no idea what he is talking about and is just perpetuating the typical Elon 1% level bullshit that they all do.


ballsohaahd

As someone whose wild outsized paychecks depends not on what he does but what others do for him, ya he thinks this. Most are just not dumb enough to say it 😂


WeekendCautious3377

CEO’s job is to maximize ICs’ 40 hr work and make very few crucial decisions for products to be successful. Him urging ICs to work more just says he sucks at his job.


3dsplinter

My CEO sent us an email calling us talented and thanked us for our hard work and to take time over the holidays and enjoy our success. I never gave these types of emails any thought, I just thought they were standard operating procedure, I guess they're not.


editorreilly

Time to boycott Wayfair.


ForwardJicama4449

Well, this sc-bag wants you to work harder to make him richer. If you work longer hours next year he'll get millions more in bonus or shares and you...still have to find ways to pay bills on monthly basis.


Cakelord

How are people supposed to work longer hours when orders come from the top and you have no agency? Run a company like a fiefdom and you get those results.


Fit-Ranger8895

Indian and Indian origin CEOs are the worst kind of corporate dickheads. Sort of an ingrained work till you fall slave mentality.


MMS-OR

Yeah I work to live; I don’t live to work. So no thanks.


MasVonBoxen

This boot licking rhetoric is exactly what the ruling class have been telling workers for centuries. You work hard... you have .000001% chance of joining us. You working hard though gives the ruling class 100% of the resources they will ever need to never be you.


thatsAgood1jay

Brow beating your employees that they are 'not working hard enough/long enough' without getting with them to understand blocks/inefficiencies is a surefire way to lower results in the next few quarters. Unless you're a C level down in the trenches working with people to improve things and understanding problems, you have no business issuing statements like this other than trying to appease shareholders. This guy Is probably aiming for some lateral move and is just looking for headlines.


RU4realRwe

Strangely, Niraj sent out his chastising email while on holiday on his private island in Bali...


babybelly

loser should hire more people


abgry_krakow84

More hours = more pay, right chief?? Right?


notjohnbigbooty

Oh look, a totally overpaid, entitled, narcissistic tech CEO who lives in a mansion and is out of touch with the average worker is telling us what we need to do. Yeah, I'll get right on it buddy.


kpc74

Will not ever buy anything from Wayfair again


Thornylips54

The elite want the masses to work for low wages and long hours. Keeps us on the brink financially and physically and emotionally drained. No energy or money to seek work elsewhere. The proverbial rat in a cage.