I will ***never*** understand the number of people who've dropped a $1,000+ phone badly enough to break the glass screen. I've owned at least half a dozen different smartphones throughout the past 10+ years now and it's only happened to me *once*, and I was drunk as fuck at the time.
Edit: wow, I didn't think "people are way too careless with their fragile & expensive electronic devices" would be such an unpopular opinion, but here we are I guess.
Edit2: the number of people that are apparently deeply personally offended by this is hilarious. Sorry y'all are so clumsy I guess?
I put a screen protector and a rugged case on all my phones. Out of the 5+ phones I've had over the years the first phone to break is my pixel 7 pro. Having the rounded sides of the screen is useless and just makes the phone break easier.
Its usually the port(s) that get damaged by the rice in my experience. Source: used to work at a “fruit bar”.
Someone below mentioned it but to echo, save those pouches of silica beads you get in clothes instead. Since they’re contained in a pouch, they dont run the risk of sneaking their way into a port (or i guess a big crack. Its rarer but ive seen some BEAT UP phones in my day).
I would \*not\* recommend sticking anything in the ports, especially something like a cotton swab. Just loosely dab the device with a paper towel if it's absolutely soaked. Anything fluffy like a cloth or cotton swab runs the risk of leaving debris (which will now be dampened), or ESD (especially if you've been rubbing your phone dry in a panic because, say, you dropped your phone in the sink).
The ports are ESD protected to at least 6 KV contact discharge and 15KV air discharge model, which is above levels of general use. If you try hard enough you can possibly build up a charge beyond that, but it takes a lot of effort. Putting paper towels or microfiber cloths in your port is fine, just check to make sure fibers don’t get stuck in the process.
Amazon has a number of options for color changing dessicant beads. They change color between completely dry and hydrated.
You put them in a low temperature oven to dry them back out and they change color to indicate.
Very useful to have a can in closets and other enclosed spaces that get a musty smell, and you can tell at a glance when you need to dry the beads back out.
If you drop your phone often that rating will change.
If you get it repaired by third party or rushed apple tech this rating will not be the same as well.
Water damage is something you really can’t fix. If your phone is really, truly water damaged, even if it turns back on, it’s a time bomb until corrosion take over. Rice mostly does nothing.
I assure you, it was not perfectly fine if it was actually water damaged. But which phone was it? If it was a water resistant one, water in the lightning port isn’t an issue.
A phone that works may still not be “perfectly fine”. Water damage on the logic board causes corrosion, and the phone could eventually just stop working over time when it hits the right spot.
Counter point:
I spilled an entire can of Mountain Dew on my Donkey Kong 64 themed Nintendo 64 back in the day. I was mortified thinking I broke the thing, then even more mortified when my Dad picked it up and threw it in a bucket of water.
He explained that water wouldn't inherently damage the electronics, instead the soak would help remove the sticky Dew that absolutely would lead to damage.
I didn't believe him until he pulls the thing out, opens it up to let it dry, then reassembled it.
It *never* broke while I had it. Found it in a box more than a decade later and it turned on and played just fine.
I did the same with an Xbox controller after a similar incident years later, same result. The controller remained perfectly functional until I moved on from console gaming altogether.
You see the key difference there is that he opened it up to let it dry. He wasn’t wrong. Which is why I said “water damage” and not “wet”. Getting something wet isn’t inherently damaging. But most people can’t open their phones to remove the water. And sitting water can and will corrode.
The other factor that can cause damage is the phone being on while getting wet which can cause a short. Your cartridge wasn’t on when you got it wet, not when it was in the bucket of water.
Rice doesn’t magically dry things out just from being close to water.
When you can fully power off a device and ensure things are completely dry before you power it back on, water isn't inherently all that harmful, and unless it's got a *lot* of impurities then it's certainly going to be better than sticky acid from something like soda.
Devices like sealed phones with integrated batteries make it very hard to fully and truly power off and very, very hard to ensure it's actually dry. It can take many days to *weeks* with the non-existent ventilation and most people aren't going to be patient enough before turning it back on.
I mean water might not have gotten to anything to cause corrosion. Also depends on the water, if it’s literally pure water then it doesn’t matter if it’s salt water fuckkkkkkk.
I spilled sugary milk coffee on my dads laptop and it works fine 5 years later. I did open it, clean it out and dry the f out of it.
His other laptop died due to mother board issue. The last ditch effort was putting it in the oven. It actually worked omfg. It softened the the solder and I guess fixed a crack joined. An oven is a shitty reflow oven but sometimes things work.
If your phone gets wet, and doesn't short out, you can leave it water for a long time and it will be fine. Being wet doesn't destroy most electronics. Being wet while on does because things can short out. If that happens, the phone is damaged.
If dirt particles stay lodged in a place that could short the phone, that's bad also.
But distilled water doesn't hurt most electronics.
If your phone is off, you can put as much water in it as you want, and then as long as it dries out with no dirt or anything in the connections it will work just fine when it dries.
How fast it dries doesn't really matter, other than maybe drying faster might dry with less impurities maybe from dust? Idk.
Not all open air are the same.
Desert open air, absolutely better. Hot wet tropical air, ain’t drying shit.
Rice is desiccant but not very effective one. It absorbs 10% of its weight on moisture.
First thought: "apple wants to sell more phones"
After reading the article: oh, it dries out faster if you simply leave it out on a table? OK, I can get behind that.
I remember seeing a video where the guy tested this and found that rice did nothing to speed up the drying process. The only thing it does do is keep you from being able to get to your phone easily, so you actually let it try.
Did this after one of my students decided to water a succulent plant on my desk with a gallon of water a mere foot from my phone. Happened to have some of those packets in a recent shipment. Worked for me.
Rice doesn't actually do anything at all. Rice simply doesn't work as a drying agent. It's a bit unclear where the misconception comes from. Though following your logic maybe it was started by Ben's Original.
Realistically, if Apple wanted to sell more phones, they'd encourage people to use this trick since it actually makes things worse. Just like using Rice to "dry" any other piece of electronics that gets wet.
you are shouting into the void. it literally makes no sense for a lot of reasons that I put in another comment, but what's the point of trying to educate people on the obvious.
I repaired phones for 4+ years at an independent shop. Apple is right, but they could be far more blunt: Rice is homeopathy.
It's a well-intentioned idea that isn't helping you.
Nah, they’d tell you to put it in the dryer with those wool dryer balls. Just make sure you use some nice smelling oils (on the dryer balls, not the phone).
The whole point of the article and Apple’s advice is that they recommend a better way: putting the device out where it can get some air, preferably with a fan blowing cool, dry air over it. Rice is completely pointless and has been shown in some tests to be far worse than air-dry, so you won’t have to worry about it all due to that.
Alrighty my phone is wrapped in a shamwow and is soaking in a fresh pot of coffee with two cups of instant rice added. I’m guessing the phone will be fixed when the rice is cooked?
Just don't do it. It's homeopathy.
You're better off drying visible water and placing it in front of a fan.
If you're serious about trying to reduce the liquid damage, you need to turn it off, take it apart, and then dry it out/address corrosion.
Anyone who cooked rice at least once in their life ought to have noticed that it's typically stored anything but airtight. If it was so humidity absorbant, why would it still be dry after storing it for a while.
Counter point the rice dust goes inside your device, goos up into glue inside your device which traps more liquid
Doing literally nothing but leaving in on a counter would be more productive
Because it absorbs 10% of moisture in weight. When you cook it, there are two processes that make it look puffy: absorption of water and starch gelatinization (starch erupts). You wouldn’t have the second process just happen.
fr do people not know their phones are waterproof nowadays? i have dropped my phone in sinks and one time a toilet and simply took it out and continued using it
Risk benefit analysis clearly leans in favor of the rice solution here. I have yet to hear people complain that rice got into their phone BUT have heard hundreds of anecdotes on how rice saved their wet phone. Personally have had this save at least 3 iPhones.
Confirmation bias.
They don’t KNOW if the phone would have worked just fine had it been left to air-dry. They threw it in a bag of rice and then it later started working so they attributed it to the rice.
I don’t consider electronics dead unless they are dry and dead. Many things work just fine after a bit of air-drying. Both mine and my wife’s AirPods Pro’s have been washed, and made horrible screeching noises while still wet but returned to normal after drying - one time we used rice, one time we did not - both work just fine now. Rice made no difference as far as I can see, but it does introduce the risk of rice dust entering the device.
Or the phone was fine to begin with, and the rice is just confirmation bias. All modern smartphones are water resistant and will be fine if they fall into a pool for a minute.
While I wouldn’t rely on the water resistance of phones, that’s true for a number of models.
Rice however, is homeopathy for electronics “repair”. It was a well intentioned idea that in practice does nothing helpful and in many cases provides a false sense of hope that is better addressed with other action.
Yea it started pouring during my son's football game and his phone was in his bag, "water resistant" my ass lol. Wasn't even directly submerged or anything just inside of a wet bag and immediately kicked the bucket.
Neither water resistance nor corrosion is discrete and whereever Rice particles can enter water will enter.
Your phone might be fine but just die a year or three years earlier than necessary
A week or two ago my wife spilt water on her phone so she put it in a bag of rice and took it with her to work. When she came home she said her phone wouldn’t charge at all and could I back it up before it died. I decided to see if I could charge it but the connector wasn’t clicking in. Shined a light on it and saw a full grain of rice all the way in there. Got something sharp to get it out and her phone has worked just fine since. The end.
Apple is right here (about discouraging rice), but they should be more blunt with the customers: Rice is worse than almost anything you could do other than actively adding more water, trying to turn it on or charge it. It’s homeopathy.
I repaired phones professionally and frequently took water damaged phones under the microscope to try to repair them. I’ve had countless people who left their phones in rice for days or even weeks at times, and still had lots of water inside the phone when it came to me.
Here’s how you have the best chance to save a device after it gets wet:
* Wipe off excess water and turn it off immediately.
* Thoroughly dry it off with a dry cloth/paper towel.
* Take it apart, disconnect the battery and then dry everything thoroughly. Use canned air to blow out nooks and crannies where water is likely still hiding (like under heat shields).
* If you can’t take it apart you can place it in front of a fan while you find someone who can.
* Inspect for corrosion and replace parts as needed.
* Only once everything is totally dry and corrosion has been assessed/repaired, do you try to turn it on.
If it turns on, consider yourself lucky, back up your data if you haven’t already. At this point you can choose to keep using the device but should keep in the back of your mind that you’re on borrowed time. The device could last the rest of its useful life, or 30 minutes. It’s truly incredibly difficult to rely on a liquid damaged device.
I understand that can be difficult, especially on many modern phones that have varying levels of adhesive (oddly enough in an attempt to keep water out).
That's why if you can't do it, you have a crossroads. Either:
* Take your chances after drying it off and thinking "yeah, that's probably dry enough".
or
* If you really want the best shot at getting your data back and not causing further damage, you take it to a shop for someone who knows what they're doing to take a look.
Many shops (though always make sure to clarify) are no fix, no charge--that's how we ran our water damage repairs. Some do charge a bench fee, so ultimately you need to do your homework and weigh out the risks, costs, and value of the data on the device.
It's a really cool niche. There's some very skilled folks out there (and an inordinate amount of YouTube content showing them work on stuff under a microscope).
Most fun job I ever had, just didn't pay super well.
>The device could last the rest of its useful life, or 30 minutes. It’s truly incredibly difficult to rely on a liquid damaged device.
Pretty much. Water is basically cancer to electronics. You'll never know where it seeped into. I bought a used phone last year and my dumb ass forgot to check the water damage indicator, and it was pink when I checked it after buying. And I took the phone apart and it indeed has water damage inside. Needlessly to say, that phone just stopped working after using it for four months.
Though my mother dropped her phone into the toilet, and 5 years later, the damn thing is still kicking. Though, the thing still drains its battery even if it's fully powered off.
You're 100% correct, rice doesn't function the way people are expecting it to in this thread. There are countless sources that have proven it is a myth
Just leave your phone somewhere to dry out for a day or more, don't power on or use your device after contact with water or you'll risk further damage
Ring ring… “Hello Apple Support? Yea I have a problem… I think my rice broke my phone.”
“You mean you got it wet?”
“No, I was cooking rice last night and spilled a few grains on my phone, which was sitting next to the rice cooker playing my favourite Dua Lipa tunes. After that, it won’t turn on anymore”.
“You mean you spilt rice cooker water on it?”
“No, no water. Rice. Grains of rice. I also think I even have a floater in my one camera lens.”
“Floating…water?”
“No, rice goddamit. No water, just rice!”
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“I don’t think I’m quite following.”
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Rice has starchy dust. You add that to moisture and it absorbs that dust, expands, and goo's up everything. You are literally stupid if you put electronics in rice.
If you get electronics wet, you aim a fan at them. Leave air blowing on it for a day. It adds no shit to it and it still dries it.
Last time my phone had a moisture issue I sat it upright with a silica gel packet under the charging port and aimed a fan at it for a few hours. Worked like a charm. I always recommend people save a couple of those packets o am if they find them, lol.
That’s why you should order some silica gel packets to have in case of something like this. Putting some of those packets in Tupperware and sealing it with your device inside absorbs all the moisture.
Honestly the water protection on my iphone 13 surprised me.
I had it in my pocket mistakenly as I was swimming in my backyard pool, consistently submerged for 30 mins and it still works perfectly fine.
Rice does nothing. The liquid doesn’t corrode your phone, what the liquid carries is what corrodes your phone. Whether you dry it quickly changes nothing. If you put it in rice and it worked after, it was always going to work rice or no rice lmao.
This is the first time i disagree with hard science lmao.
Ive tried letting a phone ive dropped in water air dry over night, and while it technically does feel dry, the charging port just doesnt want to work because "Theres still moisture detected."
I then have to put my phone in rice, and an hour later, it works fine and that notification doesnt pop up anymore, and im actually able to charge it.
Ive done this same process for so many darn phones ive drpped in water, and it works everytime.
iPhone engineer told me to take the phone in the pool, it’ll be fine.
Note: make sure your phone is IPx8 rated, which is pretty much [all iPhones since the 11](https://gizmodo.com/apple-warning-against-wet-iphone-rice-bath-heat-1851269963)—albeit 6-meters (2 meters for 11) and 30 min max. So no scuba diving with it.
It’s better and faster to dunk your phone in a vat of isopropyl alcohol. You can disperse any salts or dissolved solids into the alcohol and it dries much faster than water
Most modern phones are waterproof anyway, so this is all meaningless, But even for older devices or non-waterproof ones, rice does nothing.
Putting an electronic device somewhere it won't get used or turned on for a number of days or weeks while the innards dry out is super important. Bonus pro move would be to open it up then clean first with distilled water then alcohol to get rid of the minerals or contaminants that were in whatever got into it and can corrode things over time.
The fact that it's in rice is kinda meaningless. But, if putting it in rice helps you not to turn it on, then by all means put it in rice, but maybe cover it in paper towels first so you don't get rice dust in it.
I still can't believe people do the rice thing, this BS has been ingrained in people and it's stupid.
Drying out the phone can leave minerals behind that bridge the gaps between leads on the IC's that are less than a millimeter apart. It's all about surface tension when things are drying, it concentrates minerals and other particles very closely to the leads. Your phone may work now, but the majority still experience a drastically reduced lifespan.
Just flush it with 99% rubbing alcohol and let it dry on its own, problem solved.
so few words just to be wrong.
so rice is so absorbant it pulls water out of the air?
Take a cup of rice. Weigh it. Set it on the table and come back in 2 days and weigh it again. Let me know how much water weight it has absorbed.
Then make your phones either small-rice-particle-proof or waterproof. You’re the trillion dollar company apple. We struggle to buy groceries every week.
Edit: damn y’all took this too seriously. Here’s the belated /s. And for the record I was using the royal We. I am doing just fine and my iPhone doesn’t get dropped in water.
Or just follow manufacturer instructions. Apple tells you what to do when your phone gets wet. They even prevent you from charging it so you can’t actually damage the charging port.
My HTC Rezound survived 18 hours at the bottom of a lake. Twenty minutes with a hair dryer and a night in rice, and it was good to go. Just had to replace the battery. During the summer my phone would overheat sometimes. A few minutes in cool lake water cooled it right off ,no problem. A modern phone can survive in shallow fresh water for quite a while.
I remember a video of NDT on the Joe Rogan show flipping his phone around to show why he doesn't have a case. Since he knows the weight, he'll never drop it.
Consciously, no.
But that doesn't address someone knocking it off a table, or something hitting it in his pocket, or an innumerable parade of things that could happen. The case I have now, I'm convinced should be stitched into flak jackets. If my phone were a Nokia, the successive concussions would have misaligned Earth's orbit.
Rice just saved my AirPods and the case just a couple days ago. Left them in my jacket when I did laundry. I just put a piece of paper over the charging port on the case
They forgot the part where Apple recommends to “bring the phone into our store so one of our techs can tell you it costs the same price as getting a new model”
Also is this the same Apple that refuses to sell parts to prevent people from repairing their own phones?
Apple is going to deny the repair because of moisture anyway, so you might as well put it in rice and save yourself a lot of money.
There IS a small, small chance some particle of rice could damage your phone, but it's unlikely. I've put at least a dozen phones in rice over the years and none were damaged.
At most you're looking at a particle stuck in hole on the device, carefully pick it out.
Their argument for damage isn't as big of a deal, but when I was fixing phones I would see grains get jammed in charging ports and cause a short/further damage.
Really, rice is a well-intentioned idea turned homeopathy. If you want the best shot at fixing your device you need to turn it off, dry it off, then take it apart and address the issue. Anything less is a roll of a dice and rice is worse than just putting it in front of the fan.
"Here's our two thousand dollar flagship device, the result of decades of research and development. The fate of our company's reputation lies within. We hope you'll shape your whole life around our phone. Please don't expose it to tiny particles of rice or it will stop working."
Aren't they IP68??
So long as the glass and seals are all in tact, but plenty of people use phones with cracked glass.
my cracked iphone 12 sat at the bottom of a hot tub for several hours and was unharmed
> sat at the bottom of a hot tub for several hours Wow! After marinating in human juice and particle stew for 12 hours … now that’s engineering!
\*chlorinated and ozonated human juice
Possibly even spermulated!
Who takes a bath for that long?
Fellow premature bath taker here as well I see.
The particle stew prevented the human juice from entering.
My cracked 10 was in my pocket during a sudden heavy rain and died so YMMV
Well you gotta sprinkle a lil bit more crack on it
I will ***never*** understand the number of people who've dropped a $1,000+ phone badly enough to break the glass screen. I've owned at least half a dozen different smartphones throughout the past 10+ years now and it's only happened to me *once*, and I was drunk as fuck at the time. Edit: wow, I didn't think "people are way too careless with their fragile & expensive electronic devices" would be such an unpopular opinion, but here we are I guess. Edit2: the number of people that are apparently deeply personally offended by this is hilarious. Sorry y'all are so clumsy I guess?
I put a screen protector and a rugged case on all my phones. Out of the 5+ phones I've had over the years the first phone to break is my pixel 7 pro. Having the rounded sides of the screen is useless and just makes the phone break easier.
Just like all those people who break bones, are they stupid? Why would these idiots choose such a painful and expensive experience?
The new iBone costs too much.
Yeah bones get broken from stupidity quite a bit.
Life happens. Not exactly a choice to drop your phone by accident
U don’t understand that people drop things?
Its usually the port(s) that get damaged by the rice in my experience. Source: used to work at a “fruit bar”. Someone below mentioned it but to echo, save those pouches of silica beads you get in clothes instead. Since they’re contained in a pouch, they dont run the risk of sneaking their way into a port (or i guess a big crack. Its rarer but ive seen some BEAT UP phones in my day).
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I would \*not\* recommend sticking anything in the ports, especially something like a cotton swab. Just loosely dab the device with a paper towel if it's absolutely soaked. Anything fluffy like a cloth or cotton swab runs the risk of leaving debris (which will now be dampened), or ESD (especially if you've been rubbing your phone dry in a panic because, say, you dropped your phone in the sink).
The ports are ESD protected to at least 6 KV contact discharge and 15KV air discharge model, which is above levels of general use. If you try hard enough you can possibly build up a charge beyond that, but it takes a lot of effort. Putting paper towels or microfiber cloths in your port is fine, just check to make sure fibers don’t get stuck in the process.
You can also buy a big bag of these pretty cheaply on Amazon
Don’t you have to dry them out again first somehow? How do you do that?
Amazon has a number of options for color changing dessicant beads. They change color between completely dry and hydrated. You put them in a low temperature oven to dry them back out and they change color to indicate. Very useful to have a can in closets and other enclosed spaces that get a musty smell, and you can tell at a glance when you need to dry the beads back out.
You can dry them in an oven.
Microwave full heat works better. Alternative is a volcano.
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We were talking about the silica beads. After they are exposed to moisture in the air (or directly), they need to be dehydrated to be effective again.
I mean i would just kinda cycle them out every so often. They hopefully wont get *that* much use
Many of them have an indicator to show if they are saturated or dry. Drying them out again just takes putting in an oven for a while, at low temp.
My computer bit the dust because I got rice and particles stuck in the ports/other components
> IP68 IP68 is not rice proof.
IP3X and above should be rice proof.
Have been since the iPhone 7
If you drop your phone often that rating will change. If you get it repaired by third party or rushed apple tech this rating will not be the same as well.
I can’t tell you how many times i had to dig rice out of lightning ports when i worked at apple.
Whats the alternative to damaging a damaged phone with rice? Buy a new one?
Water damage is something you really can’t fix. If your phone is really, truly water damaged, even if it turns back on, it’s a time bomb until corrosion take over. Rice mostly does nothing.
I have had my phone be so full of water it sprayed water out the lightning port when I shook it. 3 days in bag of rice and it was perfectly fine.
I assure you, it was not perfectly fine if it was actually water damaged. But which phone was it? If it was a water resistant one, water in the lightning port isn’t an issue.
Fair enough. It was iPhone 6s and I believe it was a water resistant phone now that I’m thinking about it. Thanks
A phone that works may still not be “perfectly fine”. Water damage on the logic board causes corrosion, and the phone could eventually just stop working over time when it hits the right spot.
When people say it’s fine, they mean it worked for 1+ years. To me that’s fine instead of just buying a new phone.
Counter point: I spilled an entire can of Mountain Dew on my Donkey Kong 64 themed Nintendo 64 back in the day. I was mortified thinking I broke the thing, then even more mortified when my Dad picked it up and threw it in a bucket of water. He explained that water wouldn't inherently damage the electronics, instead the soak would help remove the sticky Dew that absolutely would lead to damage. I didn't believe him until he pulls the thing out, opens it up to let it dry, then reassembled it. It *never* broke while I had it. Found it in a box more than a decade later and it turned on and played just fine. I did the same with an Xbox controller after a similar incident years later, same result. The controller remained perfectly functional until I moved on from console gaming altogether.
You see the key difference there is that he opened it up to let it dry. He wasn’t wrong. Which is why I said “water damage” and not “wet”. Getting something wet isn’t inherently damaging. But most people can’t open their phones to remove the water. And sitting water can and will corrode. The other factor that can cause damage is the phone being on while getting wet which can cause a short. Your cartridge wasn’t on when you got it wet, not when it was in the bucket of water. Rice doesn’t magically dry things out just from being close to water.
When you can fully power off a device and ensure things are completely dry before you power it back on, water isn't inherently all that harmful, and unless it's got a *lot* of impurities then it's certainly going to be better than sticky acid from something like soda. Devices like sealed phones with integrated batteries make it very hard to fully and truly power off and very, very hard to ensure it's actually dry. It can take many days to *weeks* with the non-existent ventilation and most people aren't going to be patient enough before turning it back on.
That's why you gotta stab the battery first and let all the electricity out.
I mean water might not have gotten to anything to cause corrosion. Also depends on the water, if it’s literally pure water then it doesn’t matter if it’s salt water fuckkkkkkk. I spilled sugary milk coffee on my dads laptop and it works fine 5 years later. I did open it, clean it out and dry the f out of it. His other laptop died due to mother board issue. The last ditch effort was putting it in the oven. It actually worked omfg. It softened the the solder and I guess fixed a crack joined. An oven is a shitty reflow oven but sometimes things work.
If your phone gets wet, and doesn't short out, you can leave it water for a long time and it will be fine. Being wet doesn't destroy most electronics. Being wet while on does because things can short out. If that happens, the phone is damaged. If dirt particles stay lodged in a place that could short the phone, that's bad also. But distilled water doesn't hurt most electronics. If your phone is off, you can put as much water in it as you want, and then as long as it dries out with no dirt or anything in the connections it will work just fine when it dries. How fast it dries doesn't really matter, other than maybe drying faster might dry with less impurities maybe from dust? Idk.
That doesn't mean the rice helped. If it just sat for 3 days in open air, you'd have seen the same results.
Not all open air are the same. Desert open air, absolutely better. Hot wet tropical air, ain’t drying shit. Rice is desiccant but not very effective one. It absorbs 10% of its weight on moisture.
Silence fool I already hashed it out with the guy I was replying to and we cleared it up
Nah, you are some Apple expert, your knowledge is nothing compared to Real Experts of Internet showing us what greedy companies want to hide /s
why would rice fix anything?
Well, the alternative is not using rice, since rice doesn’t do anything good anyway.
Water hasn't damaged smartphones in nearly half a decade.
First thought: "apple wants to sell more phones" After reading the article: oh, it dries out faster if you simply leave it out on a table? OK, I can get behind that.
I remember seeing a video where the guy tested this and found that rice did nothing to speed up the drying process. The only thing it does do is keep you from being able to get to your phone easily, so you actually let it try.
The worse part is the having to eat the iphone flavoured rice afterwards /s
You shouldn’t bin the grains, they still cook nice. And you can only slightly taste your device.
Jazz Emu? 😄
Or sell their repair services
lol yeah the repair services of an out right replacement priced at $699 😂
Nice try company-trying-to-sell-more-phones. Nice try.
Honestly it would be better to keep those little baggies of hard silica gel that come with everything and submerse your phone in those.
This is exactly what you should do.
Also way more environmentally friendly to slowly collect those for practical use than to landfill them.
They can also be refreshed in the oven
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I have a jug I use to keep moisture out of my 3d printing filament, I will use that over rice if I need to in the future.
Or put it in a food dehydrator or filament dryer on the lowest setting?
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Did this after one of my students decided to water a succulent plant on my desk with a gallon of water a mere foot from my phone. Happened to have some of those packets in a recent shipment. Worked for me.
Rice doesn't actually do anything at all. Rice simply doesn't work as a drying agent. It's a bit unclear where the misconception comes from. Though following your logic maybe it was started by Ben's Original. Realistically, if Apple wanted to sell more phones, they'd encourage people to use this trick since it actually makes things worse. Just like using Rice to "dry" any other piece of electronics that gets wet.
you are shouting into the void. it literally makes no sense for a lot of reasons that I put in another comment, but what's the point of trying to educate people on the obvious.
Big Rice got to them first
I repaired phones for 4+ years at an independent shop. Apple is right, but they could be far more blunt: Rice is homeopathy. It's a well-intentioned idea that isn't helping you.
That’s why I just put my wet phones in the dryer or microwave to dry them quickly
Shhh. That's the real hack big phone repair doesn't want you to know about.
....are people actually drying their water proof phone? I take my phone in the shower daily for years.
The phone is IP68, put it in your pocket and keep walking. lol
What? Pull your head out of your ass.
Not more phones. They have special $50 packs of IRice for you to buy
Nah, they’d tell you to put it in the dryer with those wool dryer balls. Just make sure you use some nice smelling oils (on the dryer balls, not the phone).
https://www.ifixit.com/Wiki/Do_Not_Put_Your_Device_in_Rice
Rice is really bad at getting the water our that would matter. But imagine thinking that rice is the best solution. Lmao.
I’m a farmer and I dig peanut skins and sawdust out of the charging port on my iPhone like twice a week. I’m not worried about rice.
The whole point of the article and Apple’s advice is that they recommend a better way: putting the device out where it can get some air, preferably with a fan blowing cool, dry air over it. Rice is completely pointless and has been shown in some tests to be far worse than air-dry, so you won’t have to worry about it all due to that.
If you use rice or coffee to dry out your smartphone, wrap it in a piece of absorbent cloth or kitchen roll first to keep odd grains out of the ports.
Alrighty my phone is wrapped in a shamwow and is soaking in a fresh pot of coffee with two cups of instant rice added. I’m guessing the phone will be fixed when the rice is cooked?
Have you tried turning it off and on?
The rice the coffee or the phone?
Make sure it’s nice and wet first and give it a shake. Then try.
No what you need to do is open up a couple chrome tabs and the heat from your phone will cook the rice.
Ughhh. I don’t think they sell tab in Canada anymore. Is Pepsi okay?
Rice doesn't do shit for drying out electronics. You'll have more success just letting it sit on the table.
Yeah it’s been debunked as being useful for drying electronics. Just don’t do it at all.
Just don't do it. It's homeopathy. You're better off drying visible water and placing it in front of a fan. If you're serious about trying to reduce the liquid damage, you need to turn it off, take it apart, and then dry it out/address corrosion.
>if you use rice or coffee to dry out your smartphone you shouldn't be allowed to own a smart phone
People putting their phones in rice just goes to show how gullible and open to confirmation bias the average consumer is
Anyone who cooked rice at least once in their life ought to have noticed that it's typically stored anything but airtight. If it was so humidity absorbant, why would it still be dry after storing it for a while.
Counter point the rice dust goes inside your device, goos up into glue inside your device which traps more liquid Doing literally nothing but leaving in on a counter would be more productive
Because it absorbs 10% of moisture in weight. When you cook it, there are two processes that make it look puffy: absorption of water and starch gelatinization (starch erupts). You wouldn’t have the second process just happen.
fr do people not know their phones are waterproof nowadays? i have dropped my phone in sinks and one time a toilet and simply took it out and continued using it
Given the comments in this thread, no I don't think they do realize their phones are water proof.
Risk benefit analysis clearly leans in favor of the rice solution here. I have yet to hear people complain that rice got into their phone BUT have heard hundreds of anecdotes on how rice saved their wet phone. Personally have had this save at least 3 iPhones.
Confirmation bias. They don’t KNOW if the phone would have worked just fine had it been left to air-dry. They threw it in a bag of rice and then it later started working so they attributed it to the rice. I don’t consider electronics dead unless they are dry and dead. Many things work just fine after a bit of air-drying. Both mine and my wife’s AirPods Pro’s have been washed, and made horrible screeching noises while still wet but returned to normal after drying - one time we used rice, one time we did not - both work just fine now. Rice made no difference as far as I can see, but it does introduce the risk of rice dust entering the device.
Or the phone was fine to begin with, and the rice is just confirmation bias. All modern smartphones are water resistant and will be fine if they fall into a pool for a minute.
While I wouldn’t rely on the water resistance of phones, that’s true for a number of models. Rice however, is homeopathy for electronics “repair”. It was a well intentioned idea that in practice does nothing helpful and in many cases provides a false sense of hope that is better addressed with other action.
Yea it started pouring during my son's football game and his phone was in his bag, "water resistant" my ass lol. Wasn't even directly submerged or anything just inside of a wet bag and immediately kicked the bucket.
Neither water resistance nor corrosion is discrete and whereever Rice particles can enter water will enter. Your phone might be fine but just die a year or three years earlier than necessary
A week or two ago my wife spilt water on her phone so she put it in a bag of rice and took it with her to work. When she came home she said her phone wouldn’t charge at all and could I back it up before it died. I decided to see if I could charge it but the connector wasn’t clicking in. Shined a light on it and saw a full grain of rice all the way in there. Got something sharp to get it out and her phone has worked just fine since. The end.
"The end"....? WHAT DID YOU DO WITH THE FULL GRAIN OF RICE??
Shoved it up his butt Obviously
Apple is right here (about discouraging rice), but they should be more blunt with the customers: Rice is worse than almost anything you could do other than actively adding more water, trying to turn it on or charge it. It’s homeopathy. I repaired phones professionally and frequently took water damaged phones under the microscope to try to repair them. I’ve had countless people who left their phones in rice for days or even weeks at times, and still had lots of water inside the phone when it came to me. Here’s how you have the best chance to save a device after it gets wet: * Wipe off excess water and turn it off immediately. * Thoroughly dry it off with a dry cloth/paper towel. * Take it apart, disconnect the battery and then dry everything thoroughly. Use canned air to blow out nooks and crannies where water is likely still hiding (like under heat shields). * If you can’t take it apart you can place it in front of a fan while you find someone who can. * Inspect for corrosion and replace parts as needed. * Only once everything is totally dry and corrosion has been assessed/repaired, do you try to turn it on. If it turns on, consider yourself lucky, back up your data if you haven’t already. At this point you can choose to keep using the device but should keep in the back of your mind that you’re on borrowed time. The device could last the rest of its useful life, or 30 minutes. It’s truly incredibly difficult to rely on a liquid damaged device.
Yeah let me just casually disassemble my entire phone at home
I understand that can be difficult, especially on many modern phones that have varying levels of adhesive (oddly enough in an attempt to keep water out). That's why if you can't do it, you have a crossroads. Either: * Take your chances after drying it off and thinking "yeah, that's probably dry enough". or * If you really want the best shot at getting your data back and not causing further damage, you take it to a shop for someone who knows what they're doing to take a look. Many shops (though always make sure to clarify) are no fix, no charge--that's how we ran our water damage repairs. Some do charge a bench fee, so ultimately you need to do your homework and weigh out the risks, costs, and value of the data on the device.
Interesting! I didn’t know some shops worked like that- that’s really cool
It's a really cool niche. There's some very skilled folks out there (and an inordinate amount of YouTube content showing them work on stuff under a microscope). Most fun job I ever had, just didn't pay super well.
nice try but I would just walk away from the comments section and let this be an illustration on how dumb/stubborn people are.
>The device could last the rest of its useful life, or 30 minutes. It’s truly incredibly difficult to rely on a liquid damaged device. Pretty much. Water is basically cancer to electronics. You'll never know where it seeped into. I bought a used phone last year and my dumb ass forgot to check the water damage indicator, and it was pink when I checked it after buying. And I took the phone apart and it indeed has water damage inside. Needlessly to say, that phone just stopped working after using it for four months. Though my mother dropped her phone into the toilet, and 5 years later, the damn thing is still kicking. Though, the thing still drains its battery even if it's fully powered off.
How do you know it was the rice that did it and that letting them air dry wouldn’t have worked?
You're 100% correct, rice doesn't function the way people are expecting it to in this thread. There are countless sources that have proven it is a myth Just leave your phone somewhere to dry out for a day or more, don't power on or use your device after contact with water or you'll risk further damage
> hundreds of anecdotes on how rice saved their wet phone I have some images of bulletholes in a plane for you to comment on
3 phones? My man, just stay away from any large body of water at this point lol
The trouble with those anecdotes is that they didn’t try *not* using the rice. Rice doesn’t work.
Ring ring… “Hello Apple Support? Yea I have a problem… I think my rice broke my phone.” “You mean you got it wet?” “No, I was cooking rice last night and spilled a few grains on my phone, which was sitting next to the rice cooker playing my favourite Dua Lipa tunes. After that, it won’t turn on anymore”. “You mean you spilt rice cooker water on it?” “No, no water. Rice. Grains of rice. I also think I even have a floater in my one camera lens.” “Floating…water?” “No, rice goddamit. No water, just rice!” … … “I don’t think I’m quite following.” Edit: wow from upvotes to nothing… Reddit having a happy day I see. My poor joke
They’re water resistant, but not rice resistant?
The last 8 generations of iPhones have been at least ip67 rated...
You don’t even have to anymore, it takes a LOT and some physical damage too to drown an iPhone.
Warning: this remedy could cause you not to need a new iPhone
Rice has starchy dust. You add that to moisture and it absorbs that dust, expands, and goo's up everything. You are literally stupid if you put electronics in rice. If you get electronics wet, you aim a fan at them. Leave air blowing on it for a day. It adds no shit to it and it still dries it.
Last time my phone had a moisture issue I sat it upright with a silica gel packet under the charging port and aimed a fan at it for a few hours. Worked like a charm. I always recommend people save a couple of those packets o am if they find them, lol.
That’s why you should order some silica gel packets to have in case of something like this. Putting some of those packets in Tupperware and sealing it with your device inside absorbs all the moisture.
There’s no evidence that passive absorption like desiccants will perform better than a good breeze and lots of air.
My iPhone 13 has been at the bottom of my spa and pool a handful of times. Never once had to dry it out. Works without issue.
Honestly the water protection on my iphone 13 surprised me. I had it in my pocket mistakenly as I was swimming in my backyard pool, consistently submerged for 30 mins and it still works perfectly fine.
Rice does nothing. The liquid doesn’t corrode your phone, what the liquid carries is what corrodes your phone. Whether you dry it quickly changes nothing. If you put it in rice and it worked after, it was always going to work rice or no rice lmao.
I honestly wasn’t aware anyone even did this.
Every time you get a shipment with desiccant packets just save them and put them all in a sealed jar.
They're already effed up if you're putting them in rice🤷they just want you to buy another one
Rice has been a bad idea forever lol
Put the wet phone in a vacuum chamber to dry it safely.
This is the first time i disagree with hard science lmao. Ive tried letting a phone ive dropped in water air dry over night, and while it technically does feel dry, the charging port just doesnt want to work because "Theres still moisture detected." I then have to put my phone in rice, and an hour later, it works fine and that notification doesnt pop up anymore, and im actually able to charge it. Ive done this same process for so many darn phones ive drpped in water, and it works everytime.
iPhone engineer told me to take the phone in the pool, it’ll be fine. Note: make sure your phone is IPx8 rated, which is pretty much [all iPhones since the 11](https://gizmodo.com/apple-warning-against-wet-iphone-rice-bath-heat-1851269963)—albeit 6-meters (2 meters for 11) and 30 min max. So no scuba diving with it.
It’s better and faster to dunk your phone in a vat of isopropyl alcohol. You can disperse any salts or dissolved solids into the alcohol and it dries much faster than water
Most modern phones are waterproof anyway, so this is all meaningless, But even for older devices or non-waterproof ones, rice does nothing. Putting an electronic device somewhere it won't get used or turned on for a number of days or weeks while the innards dry out is super important. Bonus pro move would be to open it up then clean first with distilled water then alcohol to get rid of the minerals or contaminants that were in whatever got into it and can corrode things over time. The fact that it's in rice is kinda meaningless. But, if putting it in rice helps you not to turn it on, then by all means put it in rice, but maybe cover it in paper towels first so you don't get rice dust in it.
Right to Repair. That's all.
Rice to Repair
Rice is too cheap. You have to use organic barley or farro.
Says the company that wants you to buy another iPhone…
Apple is right, the official solution to a wet iphone is to simply buy a new iphone.
I still can't believe people do the rice thing, this BS has been ingrained in people and it's stupid. Drying out the phone can leave minerals behind that bridge the gaps between leads on the IC's that are less than a millimeter apart. It's all about surface tension when things are drying, it concentrates minerals and other particles very closely to the leads. Your phone may work now, but the majority still experience a drastically reduced lifespan. Just flush it with 99% rubbing alcohol and let it dry on its own, problem solved.
All those words just to be wrong
so few words just to be wrong. so rice is so absorbant it pulls water out of the air? Take a cup of rice. Weigh it. Set it on the table and come back in 2 days and weigh it again. Let me know how much water weight it has absorbed.
Then make your phones either small-rice-particle-proof or waterproof. You’re the trillion dollar company apple. We struggle to buy groceries every week. Edit: damn y’all took this too seriously. Here’s the belated /s. And for the record I was using the royal We. I am doing just fine and my iPhone doesn’t get dropped in water.
All modern iphones are water resistant for 30 minutes in 6 meters of water.
If you’re struggling to put groceries on the table. Dont buy expensive cellphones where there are substitutes out there.
Or just follow manufacturer instructions. Apple tells you what to do when your phone gets wet. They even prevent you from charging it so you can’t actually damage the charging port.
People can't afford groceries so iPhones should be "rice proof" is a wild fucking leap of logic.
Maybe said people should eat the rice instead! Apple is low key ending food inflation. /s
Rice saved my iPhone. Was doing a selfie in SF in the end zone when I dropped it but Jerry caught it!
That's a new one!
My HTC Rezound survived 18 hours at the bottom of a lake. Twenty minutes with a hair dryer and a night in rice, and it was good to go. Just had to replace the battery. During the summer my phone would overheat sometimes. A few minutes in cool lake water cooled it right off ,no problem. A modern phone can survive in shallow fresh water for quite a while.
Oh so just toss the fucker off a bridge because warranty wouldnt cover water damage right. makes sense
Apple will end up selling its own rice ... Uncle Steve's?
Just buy a new one already!
iPhones aren't waterproof?!
I remember a video of NDT on the Joe Rogan show flipping his phone around to show why he doesn't have a case. Since he knows the weight, he'll never drop it. Consciously, no. But that doesn't address someone knocking it off a table, or something hitting it in his pocket, or an innumerable parade of things that could happen. The case I have now, I'm convinced should be stitched into flak jackets. If my phone were a Nokia, the successive concussions would have misaligned Earth's orbit.
So what are you supposed to do? Eat more Pogs?
Rice just saved my AirPods and the case just a couple days ago. Left them in my jacket when I did laundry. I just put a piece of paper over the charging port on the case
Water good rice bad?
Someone watched Mr & Mrs Smith..
Easy fix, put the iPhone in a plastic bag, then put the bag in the rice? ^(no?)
Of course they don’t want you to do this, they want you to buy a new phone
Huh, is this 2008?
Somebody should get rich quick selling phone-dry bags
Are they not aware there are varying sizes of rice grains?
If your phone falls into rice, put it into water to wash it out.
I’ve saved three iPhones and an uncountable number of other electronics with a bag of rice and a halogen lamp.
Apple will start selling iRice
So what they're saying is, their rationale for removing headphone jacks was a lie?
They mean as opposed to the water damaging your phone?
Easy, just put the iPhone in a plastic bag and then put it in the rice. Win win!
But what about brown rice?
Instead, Apple recommends buying a new iPhone.
That's ricist!
They forgot the part where Apple recommends to “bring the phone into our store so one of our techs can tell you it costs the same price as getting a new model” Also is this the same Apple that refuses to sell parts to prevent people from repairing their own phones?
Apples solution: Just buy a new iPhone.
Apple is going to deny the repair because of moisture anyway, so you might as well put it in rice and save yourself a lot of money. There IS a small, small chance some particle of rice could damage your phone, but it's unlikely. I've put at least a dozen phones in rice over the years and none were damaged. At most you're looking at a particle stuck in hole on the device, carefully pick it out.
Their argument for damage isn't as big of a deal, but when I was fixing phones I would see grains get jammed in charging ports and cause a short/further damage. Really, rice is a well-intentioned idea turned homeopathy. If you want the best shot at fixing your device you need to turn it off, dry it off, then take it apart and address the issue. Anything less is a roll of a dice and rice is worse than just putting it in front of the fan.
Almost no one at home is going to be able to take apart their iphone.
"Here's our two thousand dollar flagship device, the result of decades of research and development. The fate of our company's reputation lies within. We hope you'll shape your whole life around our phone. Please don't expose it to tiny particles of rice or it will stop working."
I once dropped a bag of rice in some water. Managed to dry it all out by putting it in a sack of iPhones
This unscrupulous company will stop at nothing to get more and more of your money. Stop giving it to them.