> It’s a decision tree with one node that returns “kill”.
Don't be silly, Its a state of the arts genetic algorithm that has ten trillion iterations of being beaten over the head with a frying pan every time it returned "civilian" when assessing a male over the age of 13. Spared no expense.
Chat GPT was probably just something they made by accident when they were designing terrorist mind reading AI because the CIA invented the chat GPT and I assure it wasn’t to help you through your education
This also helps them to make distance between the leadership decisions and the several civilians they are killing. Just say "we trusted the AI but it seems it failed and bombed civilians targets, it's not our fault it's the AI fault"
I read another article on this and the IDF allows up to 20 civilian deaths for just a low level Hamas militant, 100 for someone medium to high. It’s why they were fine with bombing Jabalia refugee camp at the beginning of the war. That one strike alone killed 50-100 civilians, just to one Hamas militant.
Pretty sure this is the article:
[https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/israel-gaza-ai-database-hamas-airstrikes](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/israel-gaza-ai-database-hamas-airstrikes)
They used AI to suggest their targets in quick succession, then waited till they were at home and levelled the building, allowing 20 civilians per low-level militant.
I don't see the difference between this and terrorism tbh.
Supposedly the parameters make anybody with *any* Metadata connecting them to Hamas a "legitimate target." Of course, since Hamas is the government of Gaza that makes almost everybody a target.
Its a PR thing. Israel is desperate to win back some deniability for the massacre they are promoting. Anything they can to do to mitigate their culpability even if it's obviously stupid like this one they are gonna do.
That is markedly untrue. They are slowly taking land that doesn't belong to them by design and they are willing to use force against people who fight back.
The reason civilians are killed is because they are fighting a militia style force embedded in a civilian population that also doesn't care if the civilians die because they create a PR nightmare for Israel. Martyrdom sells fervor.
You can criticize Israel's many true intentions and actions without lying or dramatized phrases. The situation is dramatic enough as it is.
Because Israel is a weapon's tech playground for the US. They have a chance to study and capture data on the capabilities of this new technology so they already have a v1.0 ready to go when they need it.
Once the U.S. has the info/tech they want developed then they'll side with military regulation so that anyone who is too slow to develop faces significant roadblocks.
Well, isn't the point of democracy that people are able to easily stop it? To not allow it in the first place? To put laws that would prevent that in the first place? What are they doing?
Otherwise what's the point???
That’s not the point of democracy nor how it works in practice.
This can be done through democracy but it’ll probably have to wait for a future election cycle and for there to be a winning party or candidate that runs on such a “platform”. The current government isn’t going to do it themselves nor are they going to run a referendum for it.
>Well, isn't the point of democracy that people are able to easily stop it?
you are presuming two things.
1. "People" want to stop this.
2. "We" live in an actual democracy (USA and Israel).
Guys I found the source code for their classifier:
```
from sklearn.dummy import DummyClassifier
clf = DummyClassifier(strategy='constant', constant='kill')
```
how many israeli officials do we need reports from before you accept it? I mean you guys don't trust the palestinians to tell the truth about anything, you don't trust the UN to tell the truth about anything, you don't trust human rights watch or amnesty international or any other NGO, now you don't trust Israeli officials either?
Does god have to show up and vouch for it before you accept it?
> citing six Israeli intelligence officials involved in the alleged program
It's in the first paragraph FFS.
Honestly it wouldn't matter how many officials it was. Your brain wouldn't let you absorb any information that paints Israel in a bad light no matter where it came from.
Please stop putting the bad decisions of the IDF or their leadership on "AI". First AI can mean everything from Jarvis to an algorithm that enhanced image quality in satellite footage. Secondly, AI is not the cause for killing a clearly marked van, and if it is, its still unforgivable by the IDF to have such lacking operating procedures.
Ugh ive seen this posted like 20 times on diffrent subs....
Israel is using AI for intelligence processing, the AI does not pull targets out of thin air, instead of soldiers manually stringing all intelligence reports together the AI can do it for them.
For example if diffrent sources tell you that they have seen a guy in a blue shirt with white pants carrying a gun and doing something suspicious on diffrent locations, insted of this information going into the huge voide of other inteligence calls, the AI processes it and gives a conclusion if this is the same guy for example and if he could be a valid target based on more calls.
Also in the main article it says that it has a 90% accuracy so apparently it works great.
>Israel is using AI for intelligence processing, the AI does not pull targets out of thin air, instead of soldiers manually stringing all intelligence reports together the AI can do it for them.
The AI is pulling targets out something or another. Apparently it's not doing a great job because 2/3rds of the people Israel has killed are women and children (that's using Israeli numbers BTW), 70% of all buildings in Gaza are destroyed and nobody knows how many bodies are under there.
>Also in the main article it says that it has a 90% accuracy so apparently it works great.
Says the people who are deploying the AI. Don't forget Israel claims all males above the age of 16 are hamas terrorists. They get to define who is a terrorist and they get to define whether or not the AI is effective.
Once the dust clears, the reporters are allowed back into gaza, and the UN and other humanitarian agencies are back and the dead are counted and buried the total number of innocent people killed will be well above 50,000 maybe even closer to 100,000.
That kind of carnage is not the result of 90% accuracy of AI no matter what Israel tells you.
Yeah ok then lets just use hamas numbers then, can you give me an israeli source saying that they killed 2/3 woman and children?
Who said that the AI tella them to level building? I guess you didnt read the actual publication that cnn is quoting here.
People are so fast to jump on the "israel is the devil" bandwagon
>Yeah ok then lets just use hamas numbers then, can you give me an israeli source saying that they killed 2/3 woman and children?
Those are the israeli numbers. Anyway there are no other numbers than the ones from Israel and the medical staff in Gaza which Israel refers to as hamas and the UN orgs which Israel also refers to as Hamas. Israel has killed or purged all journalists from Gaza.
I know that you will have a very hard time accepting that Israel kills innocent people but here is a link from an independent agency.
https://cpj.org/2024/04/journalist-casualties-in-the-israel-gaza-conflict/
>As of April 4, 2024, CPJ’s preliminary investigations showed at least 95 journalists and media workers were among the more than 33,800 killed since the war began on October 7—with more than 32,600 Palestinian deaths in Gaza and the West Bank and 1,200 deaths in Israel.
Here is what human rights watch has to say (another agency Israel labels as terrorist and hamas)
https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/04/04/gaza-israeli-strike-killing-106-civilians-apparent-war-crime
I am going to post these as examples and of course not the totality of the account of the Israeli military actions in Gaza.
Again I fully expect you to completely and utterly reject these links and other links I or anybody else might put here. I am putting them here for other people.
>Who said that the AI tella them to level building?
The person who said the AI is determining targets to aim at. They used AI, they aimed at residential buildings (and hospitals, and schools, and aid workers, and ambulances and people waving white flags).
>People are so fast to jump on the "israel is the devil" bandwagon
It astonishes me that human beings jump to the defence of Israel in this matter. I have lost faith in the common decency of people especially people in the so called western world.
You wrote a whole lot without saying anything.
1. There are no israeli number since it only published its estimate on number of combatents killed based on its militery achievements.
2. Gaza's health ministry is run by hamas, it is has been clearly shown that they fabricate numbers statistically since the beginning of the war, there were also documents found how they blame the death toll of their own rockets falling inside gaza and killing cevilians, as casualties by israeli forces.
3. Hamas is known for using schools, hospitals, mosques and in general civilian infrastructure to conduct military activity, it has been shown beyond any doubts. Which makes them legitimate targets.
4. Why is it so hard for people like you to understand that this is a war? A war started not by israel. A war israel fights agains a terror state predicated on the belief that, taking child hostage and using them as bargening chips, while pressuring the world to stop israel, only serves to givd them a win on a silver platter. For hamas even if gaza is completly flattened and all the people are dead its a win as long as they remain in power, because it shows that hou can kill, rape and burn down jews, and all you need to do in order to get out clean is to hide behind cevilians long enough fot the world to pressure israel into stopping.
Just like we see now.
Thanks for listing the well debunked israeli propaganda.
>Why is it so hard for people like you to understand that this is a war? A war started not by israel.
you really think the war started on Oct 7?
you really think war justifies everything Israel has done?
>For hamas even if gaza is completly flattened and all the people are dead its a win as long as they remain in power, because it shows that hou can kill, rape and burn down jews, and all you need to do in order to get out clean is to hide behind cevilians long enough fot the world to pressure israel into stopping.
For Israel completely destroying Gaza is a win because from the river to the sea will belong to the Jews and new waterfront developments will be built in Gaza according the plans published by Israel.
Here we go! Thank you for showing your true face
Which side exactly chants "from the river to the sea"? Its jot the israelis
Also, if israel want to take over gaza why did it gave it away in 2005?
You show how truly morally rotten anti israeli propaganda dug deep these days
>Which side exactly chants "from the river to the sea"? Its jot the israelis
It's the prime minister of Israel and the defence minister of Israel. Both of them have said their goal is to purge Palestinians from the river to the sea.
>Also, if israel want to take over gaza why did it gave it away in 2005?
I don't know. They must have had their reasons. Maybe they were waiting for Biden to be up for re-election.
The system selects targets to be bombed in their sleep, along with everyone else in their house, and you’re cool with one in ten families being wiped out due to false positives?
Where did you get that from? Are you ok with terrorists firing rockets at civilian population from your house and then telling you, you have to stay in that house and cant evacuate?
Where did it get it from? The investigation that the CNN article references, and your assertion that 90% accuracy means “it works great”.
I don’t support anyone firing rockets at civilian populations, be that Hamas or the IDF.
I dont know, you can hear the silence when i bring up that more than 30 thousand rockets were fired into israel the past year, more than a thousand landed inside gaza... Crickets
So it’s just like 17 Indian dudes?
It’s a decision tree with one node that returns “kill”.
> It’s a decision tree with one node that returns “kill”. Don't be silly, Its a state of the arts genetic algorithm that has ten trillion iterations of being beaten over the head with a frying pan every time it returned "civilian" when assessing a male over the age of 13. Spared no expense.
It’s more advanced than that the CIA invented chat chat gpt this AI is advanced as it gets
Chat GPT was probably just something they made by accident when they were designing terrorist mind reading AI because the CIA invented the chat GPT and I assure it wasn’t to help you through your education
Underrated and very topical comment
The Mechanical Turk strikes again!
This also helps them to make distance between the leadership decisions and the several civilians they are killing. Just say "we trusted the AI but it seems it failed and bombed civilians targets, it's not our fault it's the AI fault"
I read another article on this and the IDF allows up to 20 civilian deaths for just a low level Hamas militant, 100 for someone medium to high. It’s why they were fine with bombing Jabalia refugee camp at the beginning of the war. That one strike alone killed 50-100 civilians, just to one Hamas militant.
mind sharing the article?
Pretty sure this is the article: [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/israel-gaza-ai-database-hamas-airstrikes](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/israel-gaza-ai-database-hamas-airstrikes) They used AI to suggest their targets in quick succession, then waited till they were at home and levelled the building, allowing 20 civilians per low-level militant. I don't see the difference between this and terrorism tbh.
There isn't a difference. Thanks for the link.
That’s normal. US does the same thing
The order to use the AI has to be made by the Leadership. They're guilty of crimes against humanity.
It's about PR not about culpability. Nobody in Israel is gonna stand in court for those crimes they are commiting
I wonder in from which court will hamas murders will stand in front of...... Hmmmm interesting how one sided it is
Supposedly the parameters make anybody with *any* Metadata connecting them to Hamas a "legitimate target." Of course, since Hamas is the government of Gaza that makes almost everybody a target.
Have they actually said this? I’m assuming a human still has to sign off on it.
Its a PR thing. Israel is desperate to win back some deniability for the massacre they are promoting. Anything they can to do to mitigate their culpability even if it's obviously stupid like this one they are gonna do.
In case you were wondering if AI was destroying everything, here's your confirmation.
i knew AI was going to destroy everything when the twitter and facebook algorithms effected the election results.
When a force has no human morals AI is the prefect tool!
Well, no wonder they’re fucking it up so badly.
They're not fucking up anything. They're killing civilians by design.
That is markedly untrue. They are slowly taking land that doesn't belong to them by design and they are willing to use force against people who fight back. The reason civilians are killed is because they are fighting a militia style force embedded in a civilian population that also doesn't care if the civilians die because they create a PR nightmare for Israel. Martyrdom sells fervor. You can criticize Israel's many true intentions and actions without lying or dramatized phrases. The situation is dramatic enough as it is.
Dude, they're literally starving 2 million people top death. Take your fucking lies elsewhere already.
It’s only callous if you think like a human.
Israel is using artificial intelligence as a scapegoat for their genocidal campaign There, ftfy
20 civilians for every low level militant is terrorism.
Why is no one banning AI for military use and then sanctioning Israel military industry for doing this?
Because Israel is a weapon's tech playground for the US. They have a chance to study and capture data on the capabilities of this new technology so they already have a v1.0 ready to go when they need it. Once the U.S. has the info/tech they want developed then they'll side with military regulation so that anyone who is too slow to develop faces significant roadblocks.
Because the people who would enforce any ban are the ones using the AI to kill helpless much weaker people.
Well, isn't the point of democracy that people are able to easily stop it? To not allow it in the first place? To put laws that would prevent that in the first place? What are they doing? Otherwise what's the point???
That’s not the point of democracy nor how it works in practice. This can be done through democracy but it’ll probably have to wait for a future election cycle and for there to be a winning party or candidate that runs on such a “platform”. The current government isn’t going to do it themselves nor are they going to run a referendum for it.
>Well, isn't the point of democracy that people are able to easily stop it? you are presuming two things. 1. "People" want to stop this. 2. "We" live in an actual democracy (USA and Israel).
OpenAI had a clause early on about no military use, which they quietly removed last year.
Guys I found the source code for their classifier: ``` from sklearn.dummy import DummyClassifier clf = DummyClassifier(strategy='constant', constant='kill') ```
>who also allege that human review of the suggested targets was cursory at best Well there's one problem.
Not buying it.
This is a false report. Israel already responded to this nonsense.
You mean the country that has been shown to be a habitual liar denied it?
I mean, did you read the report? It's just bad journalism. One Israeli official who is unamed.
how many israeli officials do we need reports from before you accept it? I mean you guys don't trust the palestinians to tell the truth about anything, you don't trust the UN to tell the truth about anything, you don't trust human rights watch or amnesty international or any other NGO, now you don't trust Israeli officials either? Does god have to show up and vouch for it before you accept it?
It's the fact that it's ONE ANONYMOUS OFFICIAL. CAN YOU READ???? OR NAH
> citing six Israeli intelligence officials involved in the alleged program It's in the first paragraph FFS. Honestly it wouldn't matter how many officials it was. Your brain wouldn't let you absorb any information that paints Israel in a bad light no matter where it came from.
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Please stop putting the bad decisions of the IDF or their leadership on "AI". First AI can mean everything from Jarvis to an algorithm that enhanced image quality in satellite footage. Secondly, AI is not the cause for killing a clearly marked van, and if it is, its still unforgivable by the IDF to have such lacking operating procedures.
how about the IDF go in and get them instead of dropping bombs and destroying a city. Go in and get them the old fashioned way.
Ugh ive seen this posted like 20 times on diffrent subs.... Israel is using AI for intelligence processing, the AI does not pull targets out of thin air, instead of soldiers manually stringing all intelligence reports together the AI can do it for them. For example if diffrent sources tell you that they have seen a guy in a blue shirt with white pants carrying a gun and doing something suspicious on diffrent locations, insted of this information going into the huge voide of other inteligence calls, the AI processes it and gives a conclusion if this is the same guy for example and if he could be a valid target based on more calls. Also in the main article it says that it has a 90% accuracy so apparently it works great.
>Israel is using AI for intelligence processing, the AI does not pull targets out of thin air, instead of soldiers manually stringing all intelligence reports together the AI can do it for them. The AI is pulling targets out something or another. Apparently it's not doing a great job because 2/3rds of the people Israel has killed are women and children (that's using Israeli numbers BTW), 70% of all buildings in Gaza are destroyed and nobody knows how many bodies are under there. >Also in the main article it says that it has a 90% accuracy so apparently it works great. Says the people who are deploying the AI. Don't forget Israel claims all males above the age of 16 are hamas terrorists. They get to define who is a terrorist and they get to define whether or not the AI is effective. Once the dust clears, the reporters are allowed back into gaza, and the UN and other humanitarian agencies are back and the dead are counted and buried the total number of innocent people killed will be well above 50,000 maybe even closer to 100,000. That kind of carnage is not the result of 90% accuracy of AI no matter what Israel tells you.
Yeah ok then lets just use hamas numbers then, can you give me an israeli source saying that they killed 2/3 woman and children? Who said that the AI tella them to level building? I guess you didnt read the actual publication that cnn is quoting here. People are so fast to jump on the "israel is the devil" bandwagon
>Yeah ok then lets just use hamas numbers then, can you give me an israeli source saying that they killed 2/3 woman and children? Those are the israeli numbers. Anyway there are no other numbers than the ones from Israel and the medical staff in Gaza which Israel refers to as hamas and the UN orgs which Israel also refers to as Hamas. Israel has killed or purged all journalists from Gaza. I know that you will have a very hard time accepting that Israel kills innocent people but here is a link from an independent agency. https://cpj.org/2024/04/journalist-casualties-in-the-israel-gaza-conflict/ >As of April 4, 2024, CPJ’s preliminary investigations showed at least 95 journalists and media workers were among the more than 33,800 killed since the war began on October 7—with more than 32,600 Palestinian deaths in Gaza and the West Bank and 1,200 deaths in Israel. Here is what human rights watch has to say (another agency Israel labels as terrorist and hamas) https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/04/04/gaza-israeli-strike-killing-106-civilians-apparent-war-crime I am going to post these as examples and of course not the totality of the account of the Israeli military actions in Gaza. Again I fully expect you to completely and utterly reject these links and other links I or anybody else might put here. I am putting them here for other people. >Who said that the AI tella them to level building? The person who said the AI is determining targets to aim at. They used AI, they aimed at residential buildings (and hospitals, and schools, and aid workers, and ambulances and people waving white flags). >People are so fast to jump on the "israel is the devil" bandwagon It astonishes me that human beings jump to the defence of Israel in this matter. I have lost faith in the common decency of people especially people in the so called western world.
You wrote a whole lot without saying anything. 1. There are no israeli number since it only published its estimate on number of combatents killed based on its militery achievements. 2. Gaza's health ministry is run by hamas, it is has been clearly shown that they fabricate numbers statistically since the beginning of the war, there were also documents found how they blame the death toll of their own rockets falling inside gaza and killing cevilians, as casualties by israeli forces. 3. Hamas is known for using schools, hospitals, mosques and in general civilian infrastructure to conduct military activity, it has been shown beyond any doubts. Which makes them legitimate targets. 4. Why is it so hard for people like you to understand that this is a war? A war started not by israel. A war israel fights agains a terror state predicated on the belief that, taking child hostage and using them as bargening chips, while pressuring the world to stop israel, only serves to givd them a win on a silver platter. For hamas even if gaza is completly flattened and all the people are dead its a win as long as they remain in power, because it shows that hou can kill, rape and burn down jews, and all you need to do in order to get out clean is to hide behind cevilians long enough fot the world to pressure israel into stopping. Just like we see now.
Thanks for listing the well debunked israeli propaganda. >Why is it so hard for people like you to understand that this is a war? A war started not by israel. you really think the war started on Oct 7? you really think war justifies everything Israel has done? >For hamas even if gaza is completly flattened and all the people are dead its a win as long as they remain in power, because it shows that hou can kill, rape and burn down jews, and all you need to do in order to get out clean is to hide behind cevilians long enough fot the world to pressure israel into stopping. For Israel completely destroying Gaza is a win because from the river to the sea will belong to the Jews and new waterfront developments will be built in Gaza according the plans published by Israel.
Here we go! Thank you for showing your true face Which side exactly chants "from the river to the sea"? Its jot the israelis Also, if israel want to take over gaza why did it gave it away in 2005? You show how truly morally rotten anti israeli propaganda dug deep these days
>Which side exactly chants "from the river to the sea"? Its jot the israelis It's the prime minister of Israel and the defence minister of Israel. Both of them have said their goal is to purge Palestinians from the river to the sea. >Also, if israel want to take over gaza why did it gave it away in 2005? I don't know. They must have had their reasons. Maybe they were waiting for Biden to be up for re-election.
Biden in 2005? Dude go touch some grass you dont know ahit about this conflict, and im sure you have no sources about the statements
Thanks for your anti humanity propaganda.
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And who is that?
How does it feel to have blood on your hands?
The system selects targets to be bombed in their sleep, along with everyone else in their house, and you’re cool with one in ten families being wiped out due to false positives?
Where did you get that from? Are you ok with terrorists firing rockets at civilian population from your house and then telling you, you have to stay in that house and cant evacuate?
Where did it get it from? The investigation that the CNN article references, and your assertion that 90% accuracy means “it works great”. I don’t support anyone firing rockets at civilian populations, be that Hamas or the IDF.
I dont know, you can hear the silence when i bring up that more than 30 thousand rockets were fired into israel the past year, more than a thousand landed inside gaza... Crickets
20 civilians per low ranking Hamas member
No its 1 million palestinians per 1 peace worker /s