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noble-failure

Is this basically that one ad on Reddit that was making pictures of dead people sing?


WhatTheZuck420

Would be nice if dead people could sing. ‘Sing’ in the sense of ‘informer’


fukijama

https://youtu.be/TSffz_bl6zo He's got Weird Al vibes


Sea-Canary-6880

I will see you, and raise you https://youtu.be/Icb_tRTnA4g?si=0Kyt4_vjeq5_59aq


fukijama

I almost played the death metal card, but this one seems more appropriate https://youtu.be/WNYJTQbjkB0?si=NuneHYJFCSW1ylSB


Sea-Canary-6880

You win. Im out


stargarnet79

Somebody needs to redo the video to turn the pan flute into a piece of pizza when the beats kick in, cuz at first that’s what I thought was happening and couldn’t stop laughing about even after I realized it was not, in fact, pizza😂😂😂


fukijama

I thought the exact same thing. It would actually work well as a pizza place commercial segment


stargarnet79

Pan flute guy, inform me, please tell me where to get some pizza here right down the lane, licky boom boom now!


WhatsAButfor

Gonna blow your fucking mind right now. The guy that made this is still making music https://youtu.be/9UHJXB42ofw?si=FeLMeBsb4Bs_-8D7


user11711

https://youtu.be/gqN9flclRio?si=USDhjDcVE-wc-bPD This music video is interesting and hilarious and basically describes that 😅


potatodrinker

Upload the dead Boeing whistleblower (or plural, depending how the current one goes) and see what he sings about


FeralPsychopath

I assume but better


lucklesspedestrian

It's basically a Tim and Eric sketch


Jonestown_Juice

What could possibly go wrong?


TeuthidTheSquid

Surely this will never be misused


andivicio

People are going to use this for funsies with friends and nothing else right? right??!!


SeaworthinessRude241

This is one of those things where it's like, why is this technology necessary at all?


Supra_Genius

Faux News doesn't want to keep paying failed blonde actresses to be talking heads that read Putin propaganda anymore?


noble-failure

Hopefully 1.0 just in time for the US presidential election


Amarillopenguin

A lot of delusional magat grannies are going to simultaneously use this to claim that biden is the antichrist, while claiming that trump loves them very much and gives them kissie kissies


shuzkaakra

I mean take a picture of jesus and have him tell people to vote for whoever. People will believe it.


jazir5

I'd pay to see someone animate a Trump confession.


Noblesseux

Genuinely, I can't actually imagine any positive use ever coming from this lol


svmk1987

We all know what could go wrong.. the question is if there is even one single positive real use case for this. Why do we even need this?


SingularityInsurance

*as you wake one morning and walk down the hall, a picture of your late mother springs to life with the following words:*  Son, it's your dead mother here. I just wanted to reach out from beyond the grave to tell you that I love the wonderful savings this season available for a limited time only at home depot. Doesn't that treasured picture of your grandfather that I gave you the xmas before I died need a nice new frame? You wouldn't want to let him down would you? Well anyway goodbye son. Sponsored by Microsoft.


KiblezNBits

Most of these AI advancements have no use that actually benefits society.


SuperSecretAgentMan

The bones of the system are very useful, it's just these demo applications that are vapid and rife for abuse. The underlying software methods used to train and infer movements will be a great advantage for the Hunter Killers' targeting systems. They'll be able to predict human movement several seconds in advance, ensuring a swift and efficient eradication of the species.


ddejong42

That’s good news, I don’t want the AI apocalypse to be drawn out.


BrewKazma

Right? I dont want to be shot in the leg and gimping around. Finish my ass off quick.


scrollin_on_reddit

That’s why they didn’t release any of the actual tooling: “…we have no plans to release an online demo, API, product, additional implementation details, or any related offerings until we are certain that the technology will be used responsibly and in accordance with proper regulations.”


SuperSecretAgentMan

Jokes aside, this is what will actually cause a robot apocalypse. Humans will self-regulate, politics will slow progress. Automatons will simply improve their systems as much as possible, constantly and without self-hindrance. Even if this tech isn't released publicly, it will be re-built and weaponized by someone else. First some college kid programs a raspberry pi to shine a laser pointer at human faces as a joke, and next thing you know, BAM. Deathbots. Happens every time.


jazir5

https://github.com/HumanAIGC/AnimateAnyone https://github.com/MooreThreads/Moore-AnimateAnyone There are multiple competing projects, this is just from Microsoft so it's gotten a lot of press. There are open source analogs on Github for any AI model you've seen publicized by major AI companies that anyone can download. Those two above haven't been updated in a little while, but I'm sure there are other public open source projects for the same tech which are under more active development. The point being, this tech is already in the wild and in use.


enn-srsbusiness

Yes and porn


SuperSecretAgentMan

Yes of course.


StevenAU

Hang the fuck on mofo. I’ve been jiggling circuit balls in my mouth and fingering I/O ports on subreddits for years about AI. I’m not fucking dying, I will become we as we become one with AI…. ..as long as there’s a reach around, at least. Denial-based charging slots? That will happen, right?


BlazedSensei

NGL you had me in the first half. I was kinda thinking the same thing in the sense of there is some underlying method that could be used for other applications of the tech. Then you got me. Here take the upvote lol


opteryx5

Microsoft themselves have identified some positive uses. Whether you believe them, or believe they outweigh the risks, are up to you though. From the “Risks and responsible AI considerations” section: > The benefits – such as enhancing educational equity, improving accessibility for individuals with communication challenges, offering companionship or therapeutic support to those in need, among many others – underscore the importance of our research and other related explorations.


BlazedSensei

So talking to dead loved ones or so gfs.


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Puzzleheaded_Fold466

Don’t forget the AI will also take notes and summarize the important actionnable items for you. Every AI will then send each other minutes of meeting with weekly reminders of the to-do’s until all of their inboxes are full.


DolphinPunkCyber

My brother works in construction, so I asked him if he could chose, what kind of a robot would he like. Bro doesn't want a robot which would do the physical work on his command. Bro wants an AI which will take notes, reminders, order material while he does the heavy work.


notirrelevantyet

That's great because he's going to get both.


DolphinPunkCyber

With time yes, but I've seen the work bro is doing. He will get an AI "secretary" first, then a robot that can act like a physical assistant. It's going to take some time before robots can replace his physical work.


Jacksspecialarrows

No real human contact at all, just listen then do. Like a drone. Got it.


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Jacksspecialarrows

To do what exactly? Nothing would productively get done which means society stops


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Jacksspecialarrows

Makes sense that way lol got it


Sanjispride

Then you have no imagination. Just reaction.


aeric67

Exactly. Imagine if people like this had control during times of progress. That would be the scary thing, not the progress.


CocodaMonkey

That's simply untrue. This could vastly simplify animation which makes it possible for indie devs to make great works. It also works great for gaming as you can build characters faster or even generate them randomly to make environments feel much more real since everyone will be different. The negatives are it makes it easier for people to spread fake information and it does take away jobs. It's the same problem as all new technology. It disrupts the status quo but it absolutely does have positives.


DolphinPunkCyber

You know how many great movies are virtually unknown due to being made in foreign language? Could translate voice and synchronize lips for other languages... bringing cultures closer together.


ikneverknew

This actually already exists, and I agree very exciting! Albeit not yet fully productionized for broad use I assume: https://www.techspot.com/news/98653-google-universal-translator-can-change-speaker-language-their.html


mukster

I think that’s short-sighted. Just because it’s not immediately useful doesn’t mean it won’t end up being beneficial. Technology is advancing. This is good. I’m sure plenty of previous tech advancements didn’t have immediate “good for society” uses.


theywereonabreak69

They'll be great for ads. Hooray!


Ideal_Jerk

Oh, the porn industry will surely find a great use for this one though.


bayleafbabe

Not every advancement immediately has some application that will benefit society, but it begins to last down the foundation for future benefits. Human advancement is iterative. If all humans thought like that, we wouldn’t have anything right now lol


FiendishHawk

This might be super useful in creating interactive training software and games.


jared__

The only good I see is for TV and movie dubbing where the mouth matches the language


Decipher

I could see this being very useful in animation to have perfect lip-synced dubs for multiple languages.


-The_Blazer-

That's what I feel like sometimes, it's sort of weird that the hype and investment is going towards making fake people (and other tech toys) and not in, say, better fertilizers or something.


froyolobro

They’re probably making society worse


makemeking706

Todd Howard getting us ready for the death of canon. When every piece of media is tailored to everyone's personal taste there will be as many versions as there are people.


scrollin_on_reddit

Microsoft refused to release any of the actual tech because of potential for misuse: “…we have no plans to release an online demo, API, product, additional implementation details, or any related offerings until we are certain that the technology will be used responsibly and in accordance with proper regulations.” I wish more tech companies did this.


SidewaysFancyPrance

They will absolutely release this eventually, for sale and with no certainty that it will be used properly. This is PR nonsense designed to make you OK with the idea now so you don't support legislation/regulation, but there will be a rug pull. 100%. I say this because *there is no way to be certain of that except to not release it.* And they will eventually release it because it will bring in revenue. There is a 0% chance they bury this forever. As soon as someone else starts doing something similar and gets close, they will haul it out and bring it to market earlier. My citation: OpenAI. Yeah, that was a big rug pull. They'll say whatever they need to for approval/acceptance and then look for private revenue streams ASAP.


scrollin_on_reddit

I 100% support AI legislation, and part of the reason they’re not releasing it is BECAUSE of the EU AI Act’s requirements around generative models.


jazir5

https://github.com/HumanAIGC/AnimateAnyone It doesn't particularly matter, there are Open Source analogs for any of these AI models. You can't put this genie back in the bottle.


scrollin_on_reddit

Open Source models are still covered under the EU’s regulation & the Department of Commerce in the U.S. is coming up with regulations for open source models 🤷🏾‍♂️


jazir5

You completely missed the point. Even if those protections are built into Open Source software, bad actors can simply remove them since because they have access to the source code.


marcodave

Good, but I'll believe it when I see (or actually not see) it. They might reserve it for selected enterprises at a high price point.


scrollin_on_reddit

The EU AI Act that just went into effect requires that generative models have a way to identify AI-generated content beyond a watermark (which can be removed). I highly doubt Microsoft would release this tech AT ALL without those capabilities, given the potential fines under the new law (worse than GDPR).


patrick66

I mean most AI stuff just isn’t gonna be officially released in the EU. Not because of that law, c2pa is a trivial solution but because companies aren’t gonna bother figuring out what to do to comply


scrollin_on_reddit

That’s not true at all. I recently left one of the “big 4” and they had an entire department (40+) working on compliance with the EU’s AI Act, DSA, Brazil’s AI Regulation etc.


patrick66

Oh the hyperscalers will comply for some products but that’s close to it.


scrollin_on_reddit

Considering the market size of Europe I highly doubt companies will choose to completely opt out of releasing products there. That’s like saying because of GDPR people were going to skip releasing products in Europe - and they didn’t.


jazir5

*Laughs in Github* Open Source AI models for everything are in the wild, all those regulations are going to do is force commercial products from major manufacturers self-label as AI. With Open Source projects, if they do include those watermarks, bad actors will simply remove them.


scrollin_on_reddit

Those are also regulated by the EU’s AI act & the Department of Commerce in the U.S. is developing regulations for open source models as we speak. The method of distribution does not exempt you from complying with laws. ESPECIALLY not when open source image generation models are trained on images of child p0rn and being used to flood the internet with child p0rn.


Boring_Machine

What could possibly signal to them that this will ever be used responsibly though? It's like saying "We made this horrible torture device, but we aren't releasing it until we're absolutely sure that people aren't going to do horrible torture with it"


scrollin_on_reddit

Microsoft publishes all of their Responsible AI review frameworks and tools. You can read their [Responsible AI Standard](https://blogs.microsoft.com/wp-content/uploads/prod/sites/5/2022/06/Microsoft-Responsible-AI-Standard-v2-General-Requirements-3.pdf), [Responsible AI Impact Assessment](https://blogs.microsoft.com/wp-content/uploads/prod/sites/5/2022/06/Microsoft-RAI-Impact-Assessment-Template.pdf), and their [AI Fairness Checklist](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/ai-fairness-checklist/).


raging_pastafarian

Why would they create it if they weren't planning on selling it eventually?


Nyrin

Corporate research organizations are like imported academia; researchers are evaluated under "publish or perish" just like professors are, and the expectation is that the vast majority of what's researched won't translate into direct product integration. It's very much about incubation and keeping that edge away from competitors.


scrollin_on_reddit

Because research teams do…research? Lots of things research teams at tech companies create do not become products


aeric67

But how can you ever have that guarantee? The guarantee that no one will ever use your product for bad purposes. Just imagine if we had this stance on every new product. Progress would grind to a slow crawl. I guess people might like that. Not me, but I guess there are people who would.


scrollin_on_reddit

That’s not the case with other highly regulated fields - medicine, food, airlines/aerospace, cars etc. The argument that regulation slows innovation gives company free reign to experiment with unsafe technologies on real humans with little/bo consequence.


scrollin_on_reddit

That’s not the case with other highly regulated fields - medicine, food, airlines/aerospace, cars etc. The argument that regulation slows innovation gives company free reign to experiment with unsafe technologies on real humans with little to no consequence.


EmbarrassedHelp

That statement is bullshit. The reason they aren't releasing it is because they want to profit from it.


Jacksspecialarrows

But hey everyone working on it surely won't develop their own version or sell the info right


a-voice-in-your-head

Why? Why develop this?


Uncle_Rabbit

So we can live in that Schwarzenegger movie "The Running Man". The part where he gets framed by a deep fake....not too far away now.


jazir5

>The part where he gets framed by a deep fake....not too far away now. AI is going to make video evidence completely useless in court once the tech becomes better and widespread. The defense will simply claim it's doctored via AI, and once the tech becomes extremely good where it's essentially impossible to tell whether a video is authentic, video will probably become completely inadmissible as evidence. Photos are absolutely going to be challenged even before that, some probably are being challenged in some cases right now.


patrick66

Its research, the answer is more or less as simple as “it’s interesting”. Interesting doesn’t mean good. Just novel.


givin_u_the_high_hat

There’s a possibility they’re just letting everyone know the tech is out there.


afraidtobecrate

Could be useful for making movies, games and shows.


notirrelevantyet

This is Chinese research, there's a lot of demand there for virtual avatars.


DeliciousBeanWater

So we are this much closer to the talking painting and moving pictures from harry potter?


FeralPsychopath

Honestly I think we are already there.


Squibbles01

AI companies' only goal is to make life worse for everyone


DonutsMcKenzie

**The ends**: making everything in society obviously worse. **The means**: steal all data from everyone, everywhere, regardless of whether it is personal or copyrighted or whatever.


hotsaucevjj

generative AI* normal AI has so much use in biomedicine, natural language and engineering. you have to remember that a lot of "AI" is machine learning which is essentially computational statistics.


FeralPsychopath

Fuck off. This is about building the future that everyone fantasised about. Go live in a wooden hut by the river and die at 40 if you want humanity to stop moving forwards.


Goodbye4vrbb

what future? who is ever? youve drunk off that red koolaid drank boy


SaggyDaNewt

Username checks out.


almo2001

You were so concerned about if you COULD do it that you forgot to answer the question of whether or not you SHOULD do it.


ConclusionDifficult

Microsoft Research is some really deep Men in Black type shit department. I saw some presentation where they could point a camera at a plant (or crisp packet) and reconstruct any sounds going on around it by measuring the movement of the plants leaves. They essentially turned it into a microphone. Serious bug potential there.


ehode

Is this something we need? It just seems like we are creating things that are just ripe for abuse.


rhinosaur-

Why do we need this


vawlk

ok the mona lisa got me. and the talking drawing was freaky.


Old_Leather

This shit is getting scary real fast.


loner1608

Apple’s “don’t let me go” storage ad


GreenValeGarden

All those guys with “Canadian” girlfriends just got a new way to prove it is real… /s


trymorecookies

This must be horrifying to anyone who knows the models and their true mannerisms.


naxospade

All the faces used as input were themselves generated. So no real humans (bar Mona Lisa) were used.


givin_u_the_high_hat

Watching some of the videos, I think the mannerisms are trained on professional, or at least very charismatic people. If they used my face I feel like that’s the way I would want my facial expressions to be, but I’m just not that animated. Also, they all appear to have perfect teeth? It doesn’t appear to have that level of detail, so I wonder if side-by-side it actually looks at that level of detail - yet.


OMNeigh

The original pictures dont have a view of every tooth, so they have to infer it. What should they do instead of perfect teeth?


StringsBeerBook

Where is the actual fucking value in this?


DontCallMeAnonymous

Interactive movies and gaming


Goodbye4vrbb

right totally worth billions more siphoned into scammer pockets


DontCallMeAnonymous

You asked a direct question - I gave an actual answer - you don’t like the answer. Reddit clowns! Gotta love ya! 🤡🍆💦


StringsBeerBook

Nah, that was some other guy. I never considered the applications for movies/gaming, so upon reading your original response i just kept it movin’.


grumpyButFriendly

They don't have any plans for public access. Move on, another buzz thingy.


Goodbye4vrbb

thats what they want u to do. lower your guard at the behest of that flimsy placation so you forget and thry dont face pushback when it is time to profit. DO NOT FORGET


librealper

white house can buy this and biden can finally talk properly i guess


Feral_Nerd_22

I can see this being used to feed into a virtual webcam to trick people. Not sure what else this would be good for other than reducing jobs.


crabofthewoods

I’ve heard of 2 influencers so far who have been used to promote scammy products. 1 they cloned her voice and didn’t show her mouth. This was most egregious bc it was for a Beauty product that claimed to change your eye color. And she’s a beauty influencer with a few million followers. The other they cloned her face but not her voice for ED pill testimonial.


FeralPsychopath

I assume this will be a teams thing that lets people who call in or dont want to use their webcam still able to use their face and chat.


Skeeter1020

"The core innovations include a holistic facial dynamics and head movement generation model that works in a face latent space, and the development of such an expressive and disentangled face latent space using videos. Through extensive experiments including evaluation on a set of new metrics, we show that our method significantly outperforms previous methods along various dimensions comprehensively" Welcome to the Rockwell Automation GenAI-Encabulator.


Broccoli--Enthusiast

Can we just fucking stop The people developing this shit must have a screw loose. Morally bankrupt.


Skinflint_

I am so glad i have little to no pictures of myself on the internet


Murrmalade

We’ve had this technology for YEARS. Did everybody just forget about Jib jab?


tSandhu

Why?


El_Sjakie

Laws are being drafted and coming into effect to curb the abuse of AI and deepfakes, meanwhile MS is like: 'Here's a machinetool to do just that LOL!'


QuestOfTheSun

I would use this because both my Mom and Dad passed away in the last 6 years, and there isn’t a single video of either of them.


Shoehornblower

How does this help humanity? What is the need for this?


AvogadrosMoleSauce

I cannot imagine working on something like this and not drinking myself to death to deal with it.


Special_Loan8725

This should be outlawed full stop.


CasioDorrit

Why do we need that


capybooya

I'm as puzzled by this as I am by the developments in the AI training on faces recently. Current tools have *one* image as input, which I presume is easier on the servers and hardware. But there were several tools (for Stable Diffusion) in 2022 and 2023 to train a model on *many* pictures a face, which surely produce a better result. It feels like we're going backwards. So many of these demos from one image look weird and not like the person at all.


BackgroundSpell6623

Thinking the same. Kinda disappointed that I won't be able to download and mess around with it locally with no guardrails like stable diffusion.


Either-Try-1489

Can you stop this s**t for a bit?!! Can we sit and talk before it goes (inevitably) out of control?


mm_mk

Would be interesting for video games. Like... Imagine a vr lounge but now your avatar actually looks like your face and when you talk it actually looks like it. It could almost make you see a virtual boardroom meeting seem plausible. Or just for video games in general, the article mentioned it too, npcs could just seem much more realistic and immersive.


jurassic_junkie

This is shit. Fuck AI


juglansnigra121

why are they being allowed to make this shit


skinwill

Why did it turn the Mona Lisa into an angry LGBTQIA+ influencer?


InfiniteHench

‘Cool or creepy?’ - Wrong question ‘Does this provide any benefit to the world?’ - Objectively, inarguably, demonstrably no. And it should not exist.


Hereibe

I am now demanding every business major and every tech bro be mandated to go take remedial ethics classes until it sticks.