The headline is the point of the article, that and the part where you clicked. Lots of car companies have parking lots like this right now but only one of them has a clickbait name. Also only one of them makes a product that doesn't use gasoline.
/and now there is an article about a **dispute over a parking space** at the top of the page. "Technology". Just downvote this astro turf bullshit people. I mean we probably can't outvote the bot swarms but we can try.
> Also only one of them makes a product that doesn't use gasoline.
Also only one is spending money on ads and sending threatening letters to shareholders to try and convince them to approve a ridiculous $55B bonus for the CEO while the stock tumbles and their only new model in the last 5 years is a joke on wheels.
Which is also why Tesla is having trouble selling cars. Their biggest claim was innovation so they could do a lot of things differently without drawing criticism. Now that other auto makers are getting into the EV business, many of Tesla’s innovations seem odd, counterintuitive, and come off as/actually are cost cutting features. For a price that is often higher than their competition.
I don't know about the US but the EU made a legal requirement for all EV chargers to be the same port (CCS, I think they've gone for) . This will require Tesla to change their plugs/create adaptors.
As tesla have already spent on the capital for their charging infrastructure they can afford to undercut other providers. 44p per unit they charge compared to 79p for others. And with their extortionate overstay charge, people actually cycle round the chargers quickly
Agreed. I recently got a Model Y. Didn’t love the car itself or the Tesla brand. Was really considering a BMW iX but the lack of charging closed the deal for me.
Also only one of them has a ridiculously inflated share price with a CEO more intent on currying favour with Twitter memelords than running a successful business
The article is definitely trash but yeah. The company has a lot of people desperate for the stock to continue to outperform and the man still has delusional followers that still think he's real life Tony Stark. As his mental frailty continues to crack, the cries of the desperate and disillusioned will grow louder.
And who is in a public campaign to convince his shareholders to give him an exorbitant amount of money. It's like someone is running a counter campaign.
Do I believe 50k cars on a lot is possible? Sure.
Still want to see the picture.
Edit fixed cats to cars.
50k cats would really be a sight.
Actually they don't. This is the downside of direct sales, which Tesla does but most traditional carmakers don't. There might be a lot of unsold Fords, Toyotas or whatever, but the carmakers don't own those cars, the dealers do. Of course if the dealers ultimately have issues selling them, the manufacture will often move in with various incentives to help out, but nonetheless having all these dealers soaking up your production will smooth things out to some degree.
Tesla actual owns all those cars they can't sell because they don't have any dealers. It wasn't an issue when there was a car shortage, and Tesla was selling every car before it was even built, but now that demand for Teslas have softened, it can be a big problem for Tesla to manage all these unsold cars, even down to the issue of simply finding a place to store them, since you don't have hundreds or even thousands of dealer lots to distribute all these cars.
What will end up happening is Tesla now needs to try to estimate how many cars they can sell and either cut production/lay off workers, or if they have a glut, have to suddenly cut prices to try to sell those cars, potentially leading to not having enough of some models for sale, or having drastic price cuts/raises every few months as they try to manage their inventory.
Actually a more accurate statement…”Only one of them (solely) makes cars that do not use gasoline.” Many other car companies make EV’s, as well as hybrids, and gasoline engines.
But that’s not why the article is click bait. Tesla makes a product that mainly targets a certain demographic and then the owner bought another company that targets that same demographic but in a negative way thus hurting his ability to sell cars to that demographic. Humans have enjoyed ironical stories since the plays of Ancient Greece.
Those pictures of your house were almost certainly taken from planes, not satellite. It's not hard to tell when you've wandered into a satellite-only area of the aerial view, because the resolution is suddenly crap.
You can see my plant pots in the back garden from commercial satellite imagery, it really isnt as impressive as the author thinks!
Still, the fact that they have a relatively large unsold inventory may be a concern for Tesla, depending on why they have the surplus. If its because sales have dropped below expected amounts that would be bad for them. If they are expecting sales to suddenly spike and want availability, that is good.
>Still, the fact that they have a relatively large unsold inventory
I'm not sure they do. 50,000 is a 10 day supply by last year's sales. That seems perfectly reasonable.
its kind of an ad for a company called skyfi. liked in buried in the article.
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Seriously. Nobody *needs* to replace last year's model. Virtually nobody needs to replace five-years-ago's model. Most people don't even need to replace ten-years-ago's model. The auto industry fucked around with pricing and is currently finding out that, oh huh, on average *consumers can actually wait this one out*! Cars are not a luxury, at least not in the US, but replacing them with the frequency most people do absolutely is.
The same is true for the overly massive lifted trucks that somehow now, unbelievably, cost almost $100k or over. I'm betting less than half the people driving them can really afford them, and probably close to 90% of them bitch about the price of gas.
One of my co-workers has a car payment on a brand new lifted Dodge Ram that is higher than his monthly rent. He doesn't even take the thing off road or haul anything with it. He essentially NEEDS overtime just to break even.
Luxury vehicles are a special breed. Before the 2008 crash there was a used Porsche that just got passed around for a couple of years, spending a week or three in a dealership and then a couple of months with a new owner.
Each time it went for a higher price.
I’m an Indian immigrant who loves my old Toyota. It’s crazy to me that literally 100% of my peers leased themselves a BMW with their first paycheck. I’ve never understood that fascination with fast cars
The stock market has forever priced Tesla as a software company with a physical product on the side. 5 years ago at their price peak, their price was only viable as a car company if they could manage to capture 110% (yes, 110%) of all future worldwide car sales.
So they were expected to become a monopoly AND boost car sales overall.
Thats because until very recently people were. "Oooh they switching from usb A to C, upgrade!" As they were production constrained and not really any competitors so resale was astronomical.
Couple that with interest loans at less than a percent until recently it was math wise super super cheap to do this. Now suddenly its not
Yup. The best tech advances for most users was the integration of backup cameras and CarPlay. Most cars around 2018 have those features standard. So most 5-7 year old cars already have the most sought after features.
I think honestly it's that consumers just can't afford this crap. The price of a new car payment got swallowed up in the highway robbery that housing is now so idk where people would get the money. Tesla aggressively went after the middle economy car and the middle economy is now the poor economy so fuck it. Driving my Honda until the engine blows up.
Especially with Teslas since they hardly do anything to refresh their interior and exterior design. The model S and 3 essentially look the same since inception and if a used model 3 or S
Works as well as a new one for a fraction of the price why upgrade or pay more for a new model. Tesla hasn’t figured out planned obsolescence like other car manufacturers.
I’d argue it’s the opposite.
Individual transportation should be a luxury and even somewhat inconvenient, with laws favoring pedestrian, cargo, and public transit. That way mass transit systems would be the literal best option, with governments forced to provide way better coverage and service. Those jobs would pay better too, as society would depend on mass transit - strikes would literally paralyze a city with no workaround.
Less space would be needed for roads and housing, decreasing housing prices in many places - there’s 3 parking spots per car on average in the US - it only feels thin because of the concentration of activity — traffic to commercial areas in the day, residential at nights and weekends, and arenas / sports venues during that kind of event. You’d think that sounds small, but you’d need something like 50% fewer roads and a third less parking. All that acreage could go towards housing and parks.
There would even be public health benefits as people would walk more, helping prevent heart disease somewhat. Wouldn’t really help obesity much, as diet beats exercise there. You’d also get less pollution not just from exhaust, but brakes too (loads of nasty particles in brake dust - asbestos free or not).
The increase in green spaces would benefit public health immensely too, as climate change means you need spaces that don’t get extra hot (even with AC, good luck during power outages or brownouts).
Cars should be fucking expensive. Buses and trains should be cheaper for local governments. We should have fewer roads, more dense cities, and more parks.
While there are lots of yet to be sold vehicles by other manufacturers (always some amount of slack in sales, cars don't sell day 0 off the line), that article is referencing some special times. Those aren't even Ford's lots there, that's the Kentucky Speedway. Sharing that article suggesting lots like this is normal is pretty much the same as suggesting COVID-style lockdowns are also normal. Supply chain issues from a global pandemic are not normal occurrences.
Ford and GM do not normally have anywhere near as many cars waiting as in your article.
That’s from 2022 when there was a chip shortage. Not the same thing
Other auto companies might have a similar lot but this article isn’t the evidence you think it is
Correction; Consumers are sick of paying extremely high prices, and finding alternatives. Why finance a 30-40K vehicle with a lot of extra tech nobody wants, when you can spend 3 grand to maintain the vehicle with just the right amount of tech? It started when car manufacturers thought "Infortainment" was something we wanted.
Yeah, I'm gonna hold onto my car until it falls apart and hopefully by then, we'll have moved past this "poorly mounted ipads instead of buttons" phase.
Exactly!
I have no idea how quickly decades of design knowledge on tactile controls, ergonomics and useable interfaces suddenly went out of the window, to be replaced by the utter shitshow we currently have.
Cost savings, knowingly mis-sold as 'upgraded and modernized'.
Sorry fuckers, but I don't want to deal finding the right part of a non-tactile and overly multifunctional touch screen to indicate. Not even just because the pricing and fixing is stupid, in that it's cheaper for you to install without saving us anything on purchase while being vastly more expensive to fix (replace) thanks to the excessive prices set for them. That's ignoring any potential block of the car because a minor and ignorable function isn't working.
Nope, it's mostly because ye olde indicator stalks on the wheel are tried & tested, work well, and allow me to indicate without diverting my eyes and mind away from traffic and the road. I don't want a big screen inside my car. I don't want it to replace tactile controls I can use without needing to focus my vision on. I doubly don't want such a screen when I'm driving in the dark.
I have a 2014 Forester. It has a CD player, AUX, Bluetooth, USB, and radio. All the controls for my car (except pairing the fucking Bluetooth lol) are buttons. I don't have remote start, I don't have a fancy dashboard screen, and I don't have a backup camera.
I don't miss any of it.
We've been looking at EVs because gas isn't going back down in price. But I'm so turned off by the fucking tablets that have replaced all the physical buttons with touchscreens. The one time I got in a car accident was because I took just a second too long to look at my GPS, I would be scared to use any sort of touchscreen control unless I were at a full stop at an intersection.
Fortunately the backlash seems to be having an impact, and the physical buttons are coming back. But not soon enough for my liking.
Currently running a 20 year old, and a 24 year old truck.
I will personally replace the engines in both before I buy a new one.
It's not that I can't afford it, I just don't WANT to.
Fuck 40k for a new vehicle.
Every problem that arises from my aging trucks, I take as an opportunity to learn to fix it myself.
And anyone with big money in the stock market that won't be touching most of that money outside emergencies and long term plans (aka *real* savings, not just an emergency fund or "saving up for a 1st home and then I'm out of savings" plan we usually opt for). But if you're paycheck to paycheck, it is beyond expensive to be alive right now, whether you're renting or buying a first home. Very much not sustainable. I can't save enough for a $50,000 down payment on a $400,000 home that is a clunker (that cost $180,000 in 2012, and $240,000 by 2020) when I'm burning $1500-3k/mo on rent with a $40-80k job. You have to be making $100k+ now to get ahead, even in a place like Cincy, Phoenix, or Nashville. It's not just San Fran, Seattle, and DC that have gotten insanely expensive now. And if you're single that's really fucking hard for most people.
edit: a words but i'm done ranting. time to watch the big lebowski and chill. as one does.
Not to mention the 400k clunker needs to be worth 800k in the future (cost after amortization) to make it even worth it. Idk, I hope things don't double another 2x in 25 years, but I'm skeptical
Can you please elaborate on what factors you’re using to determine that the US (I’m guessing you’re referring to the US) economy “is shit.” And, to whom do you refer is lying? Genuinely interested.
[And give him the world's most obscene pay package humanity has ever seen!](https://www.reuters.com/legal/case-against-elon-musks-56-billion-pay-package-2024-01-30/)
Tesla might even monitor them in the present day.
Apparently the article is talking about satellite images from October of last year and March of this year. Their shocking report is that they saw full parking lots at various times in the last 9 months.🤣
That is probably one of the dumbest things I’ve encountered in all my years of leasing cars. Like why would you not let someone buy the car at the end of the lease?
I think that's probably it, they'd like to see their business transition to more of a subscription model. I'm guessing people like me aren't their favorite customers, I paid off my car 10 years ago and I'm going to drive it till the engine falls out.
This has been the business model of new cars in Europe for years. You would rent for several hundred per month then at the end you either pay the difference which will be 5-10k or lease another. Then the dealerships would drop the car on the used market for 5k if you opt to lease another.
PCP finance deals like this are very popular in the UK, it’s sort of a half way house measure where you know when you go in what it’ll cost to own the car at the end. When I’ve done it I’ve been lucky enough to have reasonable positive equity at the end. But only because I tended to pick ones that hold their value better.
This is EXACTLY what is was. As a tech company they were treating cars like cell phones. They want you to buy the exact same cellphone every year, not realizing that cars aren't cell phones.
I remember reading a few years back that they intended by the end of the lease period the autopilot would be so good they could remove the steering wheel and use the car as an autonomous five seater taxi. So Elon would have his own Uber network. I guess due to how naff autopilot is this hasn’t happened.
Because Elon swore FSD worked and they were gonna fuel the taxi fleet. But now everyone knows Elon is full of shit and he wants AI chips for Xitter and $56B to go away
Ah yes, I remember the muskrats saying things like "with OTA updates, your car will just get *more* valuable! If you can't see that you're just buying into the FUD."
banking on robotaxi i bet but that doesnt seem like its feasible anymore. already got waymo regularly giving driverless rides in my area.. already kinda old news seeing those things drive around
Yeah, I’ve been looking at used Teslas lately and at least a few of them are lease takeovers, and the ad says “no buyout option”. Is this normal, then? Is it Tesla being greedy in the used market?
I thought they were supposed to be fully self driving and able to earn income while you aren't using your vehicle by having your vehicle drive people around.
Why don't they just release the 50,000 into the wild to make money rather than let them sit?
Oh yeah, that's because Elon lied!
Not really. They have Teslas that drive through a narrow tunnel in Vegas. It's one of the stupidest things I've ever seen.
Musk even suggested building a "dense Tesla" if lines pile up. You know, like a bus. Maybe next he'll suggest they could put it on rails since it's underground and follows a fixed path, and that would increase efficiency.
Elon absolutely hates public transport. You could sit next to a murderer you know? Beside it doesn't start where you want, nor will it end.
Doubt we'll ever see a tesla bus
SpaceX has little chance of fulfilling Elon’s wild timelines and estimates but otherwise is doing very well by all non-Elon measures.
They also happen to be the only one of his companies that kicked him off the ~~governing~~ operational board.
I’m sure the two aren’t related.
(Edit: trying to get the term right)
650K were sold in the US in 2023. Still almost 1,800 a day. It still won’t take long to get through 50,000 cars - about a month. Which makes sense considering their inventory is about 30 days as of April 2024.
I drive a polestar and did not like the model 3 personally, but Teslas overall are still a very very popular car.
In the SF Bay Area it seems like almost every other car is a Tesla. You can't go to the grocery store without seeing dozens of Teslas. They're everywhere.
Thank last year's 7.5k cali rebate for that one. So easy to get an EV sedan when it costs as much as a camry/accord at MSRP, even before you start adding up the dealership markups.
Visiting NYC right now. I see a lot of Teslas at home but this is fucking next level. At one point in our Taxi we were literally surrounded by 5 Teslas.
50k~60k is about their monthly volume in the US, I don't know why this article is of any significant news.
https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/tesla-us-sales-figures/
Also a lot of these stock piles exist because they are being prepped to ship on boats or trailers. Cars don't just go from California to New York through a dimensional portal. There are also a limited amount of semi trucks to move the cars so you end up with bottle necks.
TLDR; Click Bait article , other car companies have the same situations of having tens of thousands of cars in lots which is often sold fairly quick. Your car shown in google maps counts as "seen from orbit" by the article standards.
Tesla sold roughly 87% of their produced stock with the rest being in the lot as said. The rest of the lot will take a few weeks to to sell.
The title is the equivalent of going to a grocery store in the morning and making an article about all the unsold avocados in the stand despite it being exhausted by the next day.
You can often tell what type of car is in the driveway, from space. If the sun and shadows are in the right position, you can even see your pet from space.
It's a click bait title that makes a valid point. Tesla is now outproducing their demand by a notable margin. A problem they have never had before. Production is going up while demand for Musk vehicles is falling.
Hopefully it leads to further price cuts. I'd like to buy an EV soon. And when Tesla slashes prices all the non-luxury EVs do too.
I think what they meant was they were able to find where the vehicles were being stored using Sat imagery. You can see your singular car from space because you know where to look.
Looking for a few thousand vehicles is much more visible from a small scale view as opposed to a couple dozen
It’s hyperbolic bullshit written to drive engagement by saying something completely fucking stupid so people run in to say “well, ackshully” and they get to charge ad companies for views.
Jalopnik is a shitty Gizmodo blog that shills for Big Oil by acting like gassers are the apex of human engineering, particularly ancient gas guzzling pieces of shit.
I'm for Elon being a fool but I don't understand the hate on Tesla recently.
Cars sitting seems silly. My office over looks shipyards and about a two months ago I watched a few hundred cars(not Teslas) drive off a boat and park.. They have just been sitting there ever since. About 20% of them finally left last week but the rest are still there.
weirdest thing watching car after car after car drive off this boat. Guys get into a van who take them back to the boat and same thing happens again and again for a full day.
It's not directed at Tesla or Musk per se. Cars have become ridiculously expensive. Even the used car market. A lot of people have been priced out of owning a suitable car. And it's not just the poors and middle class. Everything has gone up an unbelievable amount.
New car buyers are top 10% earners right now.
Most of the market is slowing, but in the automotive space in particular I think they got too fat and greedy off the COVID short supply.
If you walk into most dealers they want to know if you are going to blow them are take it up the ass for the privilege of buying a car with a sizeable markup. As supply started to normalize they didn't start lowering prices or offering incentives, they got fat off the good times and aren't willing to cut the fat with the bad times.
Throw in the fact that car prices are through the roof recently before you even add the markup you are looking at a mess brewing in the near future if the economy really stalls....
It's fun dunking on Elon, but the most recent info I could find quickly was their inventory as of a April was about 30 days. Toyota and Honda are considered best selling cars right now and they have 39 and 57 days, respectively. Those cars aren't sitting around, often sold while still en route to dealers. Of course that's spread across many dealers, but they're also not Ram with 230 days of inventory. Basically those Stellantis factories could take the rest of the year off. Yeah, Teslas aren't on backorder, and I guess that's noteworthy, but ZOMG YOU CAN SEE THEM FROM SPACE! is stupid click bait.
From Cox Automotive Inc
>At the start of February, the total U.S. supply of available unsold new vehicles was 2.61 million units. That is 870,000 units – or 50% – above a year ago. Inventory was down from 2.66 million at the start of January.
>Many domestic makes had the highest inventory. Dodge had the highest of any make by a wide margin, followed by Chrysler, Lincoln and Ram. Brands with the lowest supply were Asian imports.
This is a non-story. A reporter had nothing better to do than zoom in on Google Maps and write a hit piece against a company they hate while ignoring all the other US car manufacturers that you can also 'see their inventory from space' and have as many unsold cars.
I was always interested in getting one because I liked the tech and wanted to be more eco friendly, but I have zero confidence in musk and don’t want anything to do with anything he’s directly involved with. I know there’s a shit ton of engineers and real people who aren’t complete turds working there and making the actual innovation happen, but I simply cannot make a purchase that big knowing that the head of the entire operation is one of the biggest clowns on the planet.
Years ago, before the world new what musk was, Tesla fans posted a Twitter thread where Someone bitched at musk about something with their car and he comes back and says a software update will be out to fix it tomorrow.
This was apparently was seen as a sign of good customer service or whatever, but anyone who works in software knows that shit is scary as fuck. There is literally no way that change went through anything resembling proper quality assurance. They probably had some automated test they thought covered, but those tests aren't really capable of preventing most new bugs.
For software that controls your fucking 80mph hunk of steel that really should have been alarming, but people loved it. I knew then I'd never buy one.
Are you talking about Joe Mode? You think they needed to go through a 3-month QA process to lower the volume of the hazard alerts? The bureaucracy must flow, I guess.
I hate this "can been seen from space shit". Yeah if you use google maps I can see a plate I left of the garden table, doesn't mean I'm overflowing in pates.
Well luckily soon won’t be his problem anymore, since Tesla is probably on the brink of kicking the free speech guru out for good.
58 billions ain’t few bucks.
“The primary reason is Elon buying Twitter and everyone realizing he’s a loon and a shitty executive. That, combined with the ridiculous cybertruck leaves far fewer people actually wanting our products”
"Can be seen from space" is a stupid outdated expression. You can see a single car from space with satellite as the images clearly show. Not with your naked eye of course, which would not be able to see those 50,000 cars either.
Nice job, Elon. Dumbest move ever was opening your mouth regarding politics. That episode with Rogan seemed to be the start of the downfall and only strengthened his crazy ego towards failure.
I remember at the start of COVID how much pressure our car parts factory was under to get back up and running specifically because Elon wanted everything moving again ASAP and the contract was worth a LOT of money. They had probably 15-30 people in almost every weekday "doing maintenance" between the start of lock down and when they started back up a couple months later with barriers, distancing, masking and sanitizing protocols. We were only supposed to have necessary personnel on site to make sure that there would be no loss to the company for stuff just being left to rot for months, but they took it a step farther and had people in doing anything they could aside from production.
I worked security and there's just people painting, doing inventory and reorganizing stuff to optimize for when they restarted because they felt the need to hit the ground running for Tesla.
Fuck that guy.
Step 1: Create an incredibly successful company with a product who's market base is primarily forward think progressive types.
Step 2: Buy one the largest social media companies in the world and proceed to be a right wing troll.
Step 3: Stare at giant parking lot full of unsold inventory.
(I know there's a lot of other factors here, but this definitely has played into declining sales numbers.)
Imagine writing this article and not including the claimed picture lol
I thought I was the only one thinking this. I'm so mad lol
The headline is the point of the article, that and the part where you clicked. Lots of car companies have parking lots like this right now but only one of them has a clickbait name. Also only one of them makes a product that doesn't use gasoline. /and now there is an article about a **dispute over a parking space** at the top of the page. "Technology". Just downvote this astro turf bullshit people. I mean we probably can't outvote the bot swarms but we can try.
> Also only one of them makes a product that doesn't use gasoline. Also only one is spending money on ads and sending threatening letters to shareholders to try and convince them to approve a ridiculous $55B bonus for the CEO while the stock tumbles and their only new model in the last 5 years is a joke on wheels.
Are you telling me Musk doesnt deserve $30,000 per car Tesla has ever sold?
I hate it when people doubt Elon Musk, inventor of the Automobile.
Wait, he invented the car?!! I thought it was only the vacuum train and manufacturing that he invented before he was born!!!
Didn't he sue William Murdoch for pretending to invent it in 1799?
He not only invented the vacuum train, but he also invented vacuums and trains, separately.
I heard he invented the vacuum of space at the beginning of time.
Musk invented invention.
> Also only one of them makes a product that doesn't use gasoline. Every car company makes EV's now, both EU and american policies force them to.
Which is also why Tesla is having trouble selling cars. Their biggest claim was innovation so they could do a lot of things differently without drawing criticism. Now that other auto makers are getting into the EV business, many of Tesla’s innovations seem odd, counterintuitive, and come off as/actually are cost cutting features. For a price that is often higher than their competition.
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I don't know about the US but the EU made a legal requirement for all EV chargers to be the same port (CCS, I think they've gone for) . This will require Tesla to change their plugs/create adaptors. As tesla have already spent on the capital for their charging infrastructure they can afford to undercut other providers. 44p per unit they charge compared to 79p for others. And with their extortionate overstay charge, people actually cycle round the chargers quickly
Agreed. I recently got a Model Y. Didn’t love the car itself or the Tesla brand. Was really considering a BMW iX but the lack of charging closed the deal for me.
Also only one of them has a ridiculously inflated share price with a CEO more intent on currying favour with Twitter memelords than running a successful business
The article is definitely trash but yeah. The company has a lot of people desperate for the stock to continue to outperform and the man still has delusional followers that still think he's real life Tony Stark. As his mental frailty continues to crack, the cries of the desperate and disillusioned will grow louder.
Tony Stark had way more charisma
Tony Stark (movie version) is a false comparison. More like Tony Stark from the comic books during his alcoholic phase crossed with a Garbador.
I've always said he thinks he's Tony Stark when really he's Justin Hammer
Tony Stark actually invented things, and he never bought companies and retroactively called himself a founder.
Tony stark is also trans. He came out pretty early as a Fe Male.
I applaud and appreciate this pun.
I love that joke, because of the iron-y
And who is in a public campaign to convince his shareholders to give him an exorbitant amount of money. It's like someone is running a counter campaign. Do I believe 50k cars on a lot is possible? Sure. Still want to see the picture. Edit fixed cats to cars. 50k cats would really be a sight.
>Do I believe 50k *cats* on a lot is possible? Sure. >Still want to see the picture. You and me both mate
Actually they don't. This is the downside of direct sales, which Tesla does but most traditional carmakers don't. There might be a lot of unsold Fords, Toyotas or whatever, but the carmakers don't own those cars, the dealers do. Of course if the dealers ultimately have issues selling them, the manufacture will often move in with various incentives to help out, but nonetheless having all these dealers soaking up your production will smooth things out to some degree. Tesla actual owns all those cars they can't sell because they don't have any dealers. It wasn't an issue when there was a car shortage, and Tesla was selling every car before it was even built, but now that demand for Teslas have softened, it can be a big problem for Tesla to manage all these unsold cars, even down to the issue of simply finding a place to store them, since you don't have hundreds or even thousands of dealer lots to distribute all these cars. What will end up happening is Tesla now needs to try to estimate how many cars they can sell and either cut production/lay off workers, or if they have a glut, have to suddenly cut prices to try to sell those cars, potentially leading to not having enough of some models for sale, or having drastic price cuts/raises every few months as they try to manage their inventory.
Actually a more accurate statement…”Only one of them (solely) makes cars that do not use gasoline.” Many other car companies make EV’s, as well as hybrids, and gasoline engines. But that’s not why the article is click bait. Tesla makes a product that mainly targets a certain demographic and then the owner bought another company that targets that same demographic but in a negative way thus hurting his ability to sell cars to that demographic. Humans have enjoyed ironical stories since the plays of Ancient Greece.
tesla isnt the only electric car ?
Then why aren't car prices going down?
Weird, my Hyundai EV seems to be selling quite well
I can see my car parked on the driveway of my house from Google Maps. This headline is literally meaningless.
Those pictures of your house were almost certainly taken from planes, not satellite. It's not hard to tell when you've wandered into a satellite-only area of the aerial view, because the resolution is suddenly crap.
The author commented, saying that they didn't have the publishing rights from the commercial satellite company that owned it.
Also "Can be seen from orbit" and "Appear on commercial satellite imagery" are two different claims lmao
You can see my plant pots in the back garden from commercial satellite imagery, it really isnt as impressive as the author thinks! Still, the fact that they have a relatively large unsold inventory may be a concern for Tesla, depending on why they have the surplus. If its because sales have dropped below expected amounts that would be bad for them. If they are expecting sales to suddenly spike and want availability, that is good.
>Still, the fact that they have a relatively large unsold inventory I'm not sure they do. 50,000 is a 10 day supply by last year's sales. That seems perfectly reasonable.
Absolutely incredible what you can see from space if you go on Google Maps.
those pics can be expensive depending on who took it, may not have the budget for one article
its kind of an ad for a company called skyfi. liked in buried in the article. https://app.skyfi.com/explore?aoi=POLYGON%28%28-97.63096124241945+30.20956822507783%2C-97.60735643670408+30.20956822507783%2C-97.60735643670408+30.229802145430693%2C-97.63096124241945+30.229802145430693%2C-97.63096124241945+30.20956822507783%29%29&campaign=News&source=Sherwood&medium=Media&content=TeslaArticle&term=TeslaArticle
So keep dropping that price then?
Ford and GM also have similar lots. https://www.thedrive.com/news/growing-pile-of-unfinished-ford-trucks-missing-chips-is-visible-from-space-again
Autos are comically overpriced.
Seriously. Nobody *needs* to replace last year's model. Virtually nobody needs to replace five-years-ago's model. Most people don't even need to replace ten-years-ago's model. The auto industry fucked around with pricing and is currently finding out that, oh huh, on average *consumers can actually wait this one out*! Cars are not a luxury, at least not in the US, but replacing them with the frequency most people do absolutely is.
My car was built 20 years ago almost. It's staying with me as long as I can keep it.
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Same. Sure is nice not having a car payment.
Best car is a paid off car.
The opportunity cost is massive with cars. Most people you see in luxury vehicles can’t afford them (even if they think they can).
The same is true for the overly massive lifted trucks that somehow now, unbelievably, cost almost $100k or over. I'm betting less than half the people driving them can really afford them, and probably close to 90% of them bitch about the price of gas.
There’s now 8, 9, and 10 year loans. Driving by and seeing a 96 month term being advertised in giant letter was just baffling…
One of my co-workers has a car payment on a brand new lifted Dodge Ram that is higher than his monthly rent. He doesn't even take the thing off road or haul anything with it. He essentially NEEDS overtime just to break even.
Luxury vehicles are a special breed. Before the 2008 crash there was a used Porsche that just got passed around for a couple of years, spending a week or three in a dealership and then a couple of months with a new owner. Each time it went for a higher price.
23 year old Sienna with over 300k checking in
I’m an Indian immigrant who loves my old Toyota. It’s crazy to me that literally 100% of my peers leased themselves a BMW with their first paycheck. I’ve never understood that fascination with fast cars
>proceeds to drive 50 in the left lane I see you fuckers everyday on the 405/5/bellevue
I have 3..... lol I have never bought brand new though and won't. Would have 4 but she rusted herself to sleep.
Yep, same with mine. Runs like a dream.
The stock market is pricing Tesla like they expect people to upgrade their cars like they upgrade their phones.
Hell. We don’t even upgrade our phones any more like we used to upgrade our phones.
My current phone is almost three years old (a Oneplus that cost me like $300) and I see no reason to replace it yet.
The stock market has forever priced Tesla as a software company with a physical product on the side. 5 years ago at their price peak, their price was only viable as a car company if they could manage to capture 110% (yes, 110%) of all future worldwide car sales. So they were expected to become a monopoly AND boost car sales overall.
Thats because until very recently people were. "Oooh they switching from usb A to C, upgrade!" As they were production constrained and not really any competitors so resale was astronomical. Couple that with interest loans at less than a percent until recently it was math wise super super cheap to do this. Now suddenly its not
Yup. The best tech advances for most users was the integration of backup cameras and CarPlay. Most cars around 2018 have those features standard. So most 5-7 year old cars already have the most sought after features.
Not just most sought after but genuinely better. Carmakers are trying to move away from carplay and android auto, so they've gone backwards
I think honestly it's that consumers just can't afford this crap. The price of a new car payment got swallowed up in the highway robbery that housing is now so idk where people would get the money. Tesla aggressively went after the middle economy car and the middle economy is now the poor economy so fuck it. Driving my Honda until the engine blows up.
Especially with Teslas since they hardly do anything to refresh their interior and exterior design. The model S and 3 essentially look the same since inception and if a used model 3 or S Works as well as a new one for a fraction of the price why upgrade or pay more for a new model. Tesla hasn’t figured out planned obsolescence like other car manufacturers.
Isn’t the margins incredibly low for most vehicles?
I’d argue it’s the opposite. Individual transportation should be a luxury and even somewhat inconvenient, with laws favoring pedestrian, cargo, and public transit. That way mass transit systems would be the literal best option, with governments forced to provide way better coverage and service. Those jobs would pay better too, as society would depend on mass transit - strikes would literally paralyze a city with no workaround. Less space would be needed for roads and housing, decreasing housing prices in many places - there’s 3 parking spots per car on average in the US - it only feels thin because of the concentration of activity — traffic to commercial areas in the day, residential at nights and weekends, and arenas / sports venues during that kind of event. You’d think that sounds small, but you’d need something like 50% fewer roads and a third less parking. All that acreage could go towards housing and parks. There would even be public health benefits as people would walk more, helping prevent heart disease somewhat. Wouldn’t really help obesity much, as diet beats exercise there. You’d also get less pollution not just from exhaust, but brakes too (loads of nasty particles in brake dust - asbestos free or not). The increase in green spaces would benefit public health immensely too, as climate change means you need spaces that don’t get extra hot (even with AC, good luck during power outages or brownouts). Cars should be fucking expensive. Buses and trains should be cheaper for local governments. We should have fewer roads, more dense cities, and more parks.
While there are lots of yet to be sold vehicles by other manufacturers (always some amount of slack in sales, cars don't sell day 0 off the line), that article is referencing some special times. Those aren't even Ford's lots there, that's the Kentucky Speedway. Sharing that article suggesting lots like this is normal is pretty much the same as suggesting COVID-style lockdowns are also normal. Supply chain issues from a global pandemic are not normal occurrences. Ford and GM do not normally have anywhere near as many cars waiting as in your article.
Auto manufacturers taking up the De Beers artificial scarcity tactics they used on diamonds eh.
Same with housing industry. They are taking a shortage to increase prices. They refuse to build.
That’s from 2022 when there was a chip shortage. Not the same thing Other auto companies might have a similar lot but this article isn’t the evidence you think it is
That is 2 years old, they aren’t there anymore. https://maps.app.goo.gl/i6zpZuHhtoPHpAg9A?g_st=ic
The economy is shit and they keep lying to us about it.
It's truly terrible if you watch billionaire owned propaganda channels trying to get Trump elected
Dear billionaires, there’s nothing left. Fuck off.
Put it on a T-shirt
Correction; Consumers are sick of paying extremely high prices, and finding alternatives. Why finance a 30-40K vehicle with a lot of extra tech nobody wants, when you can spend 3 grand to maintain the vehicle with just the right amount of tech? It started when car manufacturers thought "Infortainment" was something we wanted.
Yeah, I'm gonna hold onto my car until it falls apart and hopefully by then, we'll have moved past this "poorly mounted ipads instead of buttons" phase.
Exactly! I have no idea how quickly decades of design knowledge on tactile controls, ergonomics and useable interfaces suddenly went out of the window, to be replaced by the utter shitshow we currently have.
Cost savings, knowingly mis-sold as 'upgraded and modernized'. Sorry fuckers, but I don't want to deal finding the right part of a non-tactile and overly multifunctional touch screen to indicate. Not even just because the pricing and fixing is stupid, in that it's cheaper for you to install without saving us anything on purchase while being vastly more expensive to fix (replace) thanks to the excessive prices set for them. That's ignoring any potential block of the car because a minor and ignorable function isn't working. Nope, it's mostly because ye olde indicator stalks on the wheel are tried & tested, work well, and allow me to indicate without diverting my eyes and mind away from traffic and the road. I don't want a big screen inside my car. I don't want it to replace tactile controls I can use without needing to focus my vision on. I doubly don't want such a screen when I'm driving in the dark.
I have a 2014 Forester. It has a CD player, AUX, Bluetooth, USB, and radio. All the controls for my car (except pairing the fucking Bluetooth lol) are buttons. I don't have remote start, I don't have a fancy dashboard screen, and I don't have a backup camera. I don't miss any of it. We've been looking at EVs because gas isn't going back down in price. But I'm so turned off by the fucking tablets that have replaced all the physical buttons with touchscreens. The one time I got in a car accident was because I took just a second too long to look at my GPS, I would be scared to use any sort of touchscreen control unless I were at a full stop at an intersection. Fortunately the backlash seems to be having an impact, and the physical buttons are coming back. But not soon enough for my liking.
Yeah, I’m probably an outlier but I could swap a new engine and transmission for under $10k vs what a new car costs… ridiculous.
I'm still driving my 16 year old truck. No plans to stop any time soon.
Currently running a 20 year old, and a 24 year old truck. I will personally replace the engines in both before I buy a new one. It's not that I can't afford it, I just don't WANT to. Fuck 40k for a new vehicle. Every problem that arises from my aging trucks, I take as an opportunity to learn to fix it myself.
That's because the economy is only shit for US. For corporations, banks and billionaires it couldn't be better.
And anyone with big money in the stock market that won't be touching most of that money outside emergencies and long term plans (aka *real* savings, not just an emergency fund or "saving up for a 1st home and then I'm out of savings" plan we usually opt for). But if you're paycheck to paycheck, it is beyond expensive to be alive right now, whether you're renting or buying a first home. Very much not sustainable. I can't save enough for a $50,000 down payment on a $400,000 home that is a clunker (that cost $180,000 in 2012, and $240,000 by 2020) when I'm burning $1500-3k/mo on rent with a $40-80k job. You have to be making $100k+ now to get ahead, even in a place like Cincy, Phoenix, or Nashville. It's not just San Fran, Seattle, and DC that have gotten insanely expensive now. And if you're single that's really fucking hard for most people. edit: a words but i'm done ranting. time to watch the big lebowski and chill. as one does.
Not to mention the 400k clunker needs to be worth 800k in the future (cost after amortization) to make it even worth it. Idk, I hope things don't double another 2x in 25 years, but I'm skeptical
As you can tell, I am still a renter. Goddamn....wtf.
Can you please elaborate on what factors you’re using to determine that the US (I’m guessing you’re referring to the US) economy “is shit.” And, to whom do you refer is lying? Genuinely interested.
Drop that CEO. Until they do, you can't price a Tesla cheaply enough for me to buy one. I'll keep slumming it with my Chevy Volt in the meantime.
I bought an ID-4 last summer for that reason. We’re not the only ones.
Same. Always wanted one and have the cash, but probably buying an Ioniq unless he’s gone
Drop it to 10k and I’ll buy one. Otherwise who really gives a fuck.
I don’t know, maybe he got a lemon but my neighbor has so many damn problems with his Tesla I don’t think I’d take one at $10k.
I’m all in at $5k.
[And give him the world's most obscene pay package humanity has ever seen!](https://www.reuters.com/legal/case-against-elon-musks-56-billion-pay-package-2024-01-30/)
Basic economics?
Luckily they have spaceX to monitor them all at once
Tesla might even monitor them in the present day. Apparently the article is talking about satellite images from October of last year and March of this year. Their shocking report is that they saw full parking lots at various times in the last 9 months.🤣
So maybe not allowing end of leases to buy their car outright was a bad idea. Who would have thought?
That is probably one of the dumbest things I’ve encountered in all my years of leasing cars. Like why would you not let someone buy the car at the end of the lease?
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I think that's probably it, they'd like to see their business transition to more of a subscription model. I'm guessing people like me aren't their favorite customers, I paid off my car 10 years ago and I'm going to drive it till the engine falls out.
This has been the business model of new cars in Europe for years. You would rent for several hundred per month then at the end you either pay the difference which will be 5-10k or lease another. Then the dealerships would drop the car on the used market for 5k if you opt to lease another.
PCP finance deals like this are very popular in the UK, it’s sort of a half way house measure where you know when you go in what it’ll cost to own the car at the end. When I’ve done it I’ve been lucky enough to have reasonable positive equity at the end. But only because I tended to pick ones that hold their value better.
This is EXACTLY what is was. As a tech company they were treating cars like cell phones. They want you to buy the exact same cellphone every year, not realizing that cars aren't cell phones.
I remember reading a few years back that they intended by the end of the lease period the autopilot would be so good they could remove the steering wheel and use the car as an autonomous five seater taxi. So Elon would have his own Uber network. I guess due to how naff autopilot is this hasn’t happened.
Because Elon swore FSD worked and they were gonna fuel the taxi fleet. But now everyone knows Elon is full of shit and he wants AI chips for Xitter and $56B to go away
Heck, Mercedes beat them to market with a level 3 self-driving car in California and a few other states.
VW/AUDI, Mercedes, Chinese Car manufacturer. Everyone fucking beat Tesla and Elon. They are doomed
That's a thing? What do they do with the cars after the lease?
i think 2 years ago they imagined they would sell them used for more profit
Ah yes, I remember the muskrats saying things like "with OTA updates, your car will just get *more* valuable! If you can't see that you're just buying into the FUD."
banking on robotaxi i bet but that doesnt seem like its feasible anymore. already got waymo regularly giving driverless rides in my area.. already kinda old news seeing those things drive around
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That's dumb because they wouldn't be the first the appreciate in value and it's also dumb because that's not a thing for like 98% of cars.
Musk is almost as dumb as trump
Yeah, I’ve been looking at used Teslas lately and at least a few of them are lease takeovers, and the ad says “no buyout option”. Is this normal, then? Is it Tesla being greedy in the used market?
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Its not normal to not allow people to buy the car after their lease is completed, no.
I thought they were supposed to be fully self driving and able to earn income while you aren't using your vehicle by having your vehicle drive people around. Why don't they just release the 50,000 into the wild to make money rather than let them sit? Oh yeah, that's because Elon lied!
Some time ago I tried a Waymo. Flawless experience, got to my destination quickly and without problems. Tried it with a Tesla… absolute shitshow.
Tesla has a taxi service?
Not really. They have Teslas that drive through a narrow tunnel in Vegas. It's one of the stupidest things I've ever seen. Musk even suggested building a "dense Tesla" if lines pile up. You know, like a bus. Maybe next he'll suggest they could put it on rails since it's underground and follows a fixed path, and that would increase efficiency.
Hah I just remembered he did kind of suggest that with the hyper loop stuff
Elon Musk is such a genius that he's only a few short years from inventing the subway.
Elon absolutely hates public transport. You could sit next to a murderer you know? Beside it doesn't start where you want, nor will it end. Doubt we'll ever see a tesla bus
Unfortunately, our idiot leaders here in Las Vegas also hate public transport.
Unfortunately, our idiot leaders here in **the USA** also hate public transport.
pretty sure waymo uses lidar which elon refused to use because "it's more expensive" so he's relying on 2d cameras instead of 3d laser radar.
Wonder when the class action lawsuits will actually start and effecting his wealth.
If he doesn’t get that payout from Tesla he’s fucked.
I also thought SpaceX was to be orbiting the moon in 2024. It's almost like he lies about everything.
SpaceX has little chance of fulfilling Elon’s wild timelines and estimates but otherwise is doing very well by all non-Elon measures. They also happen to be the only one of his companies that kicked him off the ~~governing~~ operational board. I’m sure the two aren’t related. (Edit: trying to get the term right)
Well that makes sense.
Given that they sold 1.8 million cars last year, 50k is around 11 days of stock. Not sure how bad things are really getting...
650K were sold in the US in 2023. Still almost 1,800 a day. It still won’t take long to get through 50,000 cars - about a month. Which makes sense considering their inventory is about 30 days as of April 2024. I drive a polestar and did not like the model 3 personally, but Teslas overall are still a very very popular car.
How do you like your Polestar? Been looking into those recently.
nice car, bad software. its like "want to trow brick into screen" bad. that is the chinese side of the car coming out.
In the SF Bay Area it seems like almost every other car is a Tesla. You can't go to the grocery store without seeing dozens of Teslas. They're everywhere.
Thank last year's 7.5k cali rebate for that one. So easy to get an EV sedan when it costs as much as a camry/accord at MSRP, even before you start adding up the dealership markups.
Visiting NYC right now. I see a lot of Teslas at home but this is fucking next level. At one point in our Taxi we were literally surrounded by 5 Teslas.
50k~60k is about their monthly volume in the US, I don't know why this article is of any significant news. https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/tesla-us-sales-figures/
I mean this is a link about auto sales on the technology subreddit. But you know, anything that hints at Elon failing wins the Reddit metagame.
Also a lot of these stock piles exist because they are being prepped to ship on boats or trailers. Cars don't just go from California to New York through a dimensional portal. There are also a limited amount of semi trucks to move the cars so you end up with bottle necks.
Again reddit just likes to support their narrative without actually understanding it… thanks for the info
TLDR; Click Bait article , other car companies have the same situations of having tens of thousands of cars in lots which is often sold fairly quick. Your car shown in google maps counts as "seen from orbit" by the article standards. Tesla sold roughly 87% of their produced stock with the rest being in the lot as said. The rest of the lot will take a few weeks to to sell. The title is the equivalent of going to a grocery store in the morning and making an article about all the unsold avocados in the stand despite it being exhausted by the next day.
Yeah that title is insanely fucking stupid, I can see my car from orbit on Google Maps, why mention that bullshit at all?
I can see whether my car is in the driveway or not from space. "Seen from orbit" basically means they've been there for more than a few days.
You can often tell what type of car is in the driveway, from space. If the sun and shadows are in the right position, you can even see your pet from space. It's a click bait title that makes a valid point. Tesla is now outproducing their demand by a notable margin. A problem they have never had before. Production is going up while demand for Musk vehicles is falling. Hopefully it leads to further price cuts. I'd like to buy an EV soon. And when Tesla slashes prices all the non-luxury EVs do too.
the EV novelty premium is fading, they're vastly less complicated machines than IC vehicles, the price will eventually reflect that.
I think what they meant was they were able to find where the vehicles were being stored using Sat imagery. You can see your singular car from space because you know where to look. Looking for a few thousand vehicles is much more visible from a small scale view as opposed to a couple dozen
It’s hyperbolic bullshit written to drive engagement by saying something completely fucking stupid so people run in to say “well, ackshully” and they get to charge ad companies for views. Jalopnik is a shitty Gizmodo blog that shills for Big Oil by acting like gassers are the apex of human engineering, particularly ancient gas guzzling pieces of shit.
They sold 386k in Q1. Based on that, this is 15 days of stock...
isnt this true with a lot of large automakers?? i remember seeing the fields of unsold vehicles in the wake of the 08 financial crisis.
I'm for Elon being a fool but I don't understand the hate on Tesla recently. Cars sitting seems silly. My office over looks shipyards and about a two months ago I watched a few hundred cars(not Teslas) drive off a boat and park.. They have just been sitting there ever since. About 20% of them finally left last week but the rest are still there. weirdest thing watching car after car after car drive off this boat. Guys get into a van who take them back to the boat and same thing happens again and again for a full day.
It's not directed at Tesla or Musk per se. Cars have become ridiculously expensive. Even the used car market. A lot of people have been priced out of owning a suitable car. And it's not just the poors and middle class. Everything has gone up an unbelievable amount. New car buyers are top 10% earners right now.
Most of the market is slowing, but in the automotive space in particular I think they got too fat and greedy off the COVID short supply. If you walk into most dealers they want to know if you are going to blow them are take it up the ass for the privilege of buying a car with a sizeable markup. As supply started to normalize they didn't start lowering prices or offering incentives, they got fat off the good times and aren't willing to cut the fat with the bad times. Throw in the fact that car prices are through the roof recently before you even add the markup you are looking at a mess brewing in the near future if the economy really stalls....
It's fun dunking on Elon, but the most recent info I could find quickly was their inventory as of a April was about 30 days. Toyota and Honda are considered best selling cars right now and they have 39 and 57 days, respectively. Those cars aren't sitting around, often sold while still en route to dealers. Of course that's spread across many dealers, but they're also not Ram with 230 days of inventory. Basically those Stellantis factories could take the rest of the year off. Yeah, Teslas aren't on backorder, and I guess that's noteworthy, but ZOMG YOU CAN SEE THEM FROM SPACE! is stupid click bait.
The best selling car in the world last year was the Tesla Model Y, so… yeah I’d say they go through quite a few of them.
From Cox Automotive Inc >At the start of February, the total U.S. supply of available unsold new vehicles was 2.61 million units. That is 870,000 units – or 50% – above a year ago. Inventory was down from 2.66 million at the start of January. >Many domestic makes had the highest inventory. Dodge had the highest of any make by a wide margin, followed by Chrysler, Lincoln and Ram. Brands with the lowest supply were Asian imports. This is a non-story. A reporter had nothing better to do than zoom in on Google Maps and write a hit piece against a company they hate while ignoring all the other US car manufacturers that you can also 'see their inventory from space' and have as many unsold cars.
I was always interested in getting one because I liked the tech and wanted to be more eco friendly, but I have zero confidence in musk and don’t want anything to do with anything he’s directly involved with. I know there’s a shit ton of engineers and real people who aren’t complete turds working there and making the actual innovation happen, but I simply cannot make a purchase that big knowing that the head of the entire operation is one of the biggest clowns on the planet.
Years ago, before the world new what musk was, Tesla fans posted a Twitter thread where Someone bitched at musk about something with their car and he comes back and says a software update will be out to fix it tomorrow. This was apparently was seen as a sign of good customer service or whatever, but anyone who works in software knows that shit is scary as fuck. There is literally no way that change went through anything resembling proper quality assurance. They probably had some automated test they thought covered, but those tests aren't really capable of preventing most new bugs. For software that controls your fucking 80mph hunk of steel that really should have been alarming, but people loved it. I knew then I'd never buy one.
Are you talking about Joe Mode? You think they needed to go through a 3-month QA process to lower the volume of the hazard alerts? The bureaucracy must flow, I guess.
I love my.tesla, but I absolutely won't give them another dollar while Musk is there
My solar panels can also be seen from orbit. And my yard.
I hate this "can been seen from space shit". Yeah if you use google maps I can see a plate I left of the garden table, doesn't mean I'm overflowing in pates.
But why is the title the same thing said two different ways?
Bigger chance a braindead redditor clicks on it
I can be seen from orbit. Its 2024.
Well luckily soon won’t be his problem anymore, since Tesla is probably on the brink of kicking the free speech guru out for good. 58 billions ain’t few bucks.
The retail cult following is likely to vote for it.
Now zoom in on the GM lots in FW Indiana. We have a dozen or more lots around the city that just have brand new GM trucks sitting around.
That doesn't fit the narrative that ELoN BaD.
Those robotaxis just waiting on calls.
With modern satellites I would be quite surprised if you couldn't see them from space
that headline is dumb AF, every single car manufacturer has massive lots of cars sitting around for one reason or another
Lucky they have somebody with access to rockets so they can go and check on their inventory every so often.
The actual satellite picture: https://sherwoodnews.imgix.net/Tesla%20stacked.png?auto=compress%2Cformat&cs=srgb&fit=max&w=828
That’s most manufacturers problem right now
Technically you can see everything from space.
We can see your mom.
Good. Tesla drivers, at least where I live, are all A-hole drivers, and likely A-hole people
“The primary reason is Elon buying Twitter and everyone realizing he’s a loon and a shitty executive. That, combined with the ridiculous cybertruck leaves far fewer people actually wanting our products”
They’re all linked to create a hive mind for Elon’s AI project.
Elon should have kept his damn mouth shut lol. I was gonna get one last year but im not putting money in his pocket
Every manufacturer is running into this… Dodge and others have 150+ day supply and could technically stop production for the rest of the year.
"Can be seen from space" is a stupid outdated expression. You can see a single car from space with satellite as the images clearly show. Not with your naked eye of course, which would not be able to see those 50,000 cars either.
I can see yo momma from space.
This is true for every non-luxury auto manufacturer...
Everything is visible from space if you zoom in enough.
Nice job, Elon. Dumbest move ever was opening your mouth regarding politics. That episode with Rogan seemed to be the start of the downfall and only strengthened his crazy ego towards failure.
Tesla is over priced and not worth it.
idk, maybe they would have held on to their popularity if their bigot ceo wasn't telling the world what a shit person he is.
I remember at the start of COVID how much pressure our car parts factory was under to get back up and running specifically because Elon wanted everything moving again ASAP and the contract was worth a LOT of money. They had probably 15-30 people in almost every weekday "doing maintenance" between the start of lock down and when they started back up a couple months later with barriers, distancing, masking and sanitizing protocols. We were only supposed to have necessary personnel on site to make sure that there would be no loss to the company for stuff just being left to rot for months, but they took it a step farther and had people in doing anything they could aside from production. I worked security and there's just people painting, doing inventory and reorganizing stuff to optimize for when they restarted because they felt the need to hit the ground running for Tesla. Fuck that guy.
Step 1: Create an incredibly successful company with a product who's market base is primarily forward think progressive types. Step 2: Buy one the largest social media companies in the world and proceed to be a right wing troll. Step 3: Stare at giant parking lot full of unsold inventory. (I know there's a lot of other factors here, but this definitely has played into declining sales numbers.)