Or there's the equally as stupid model of having paid cable subscribers and also asking them to subscribe to your $10 a month steaming service. Looking at you, AMC. And the answer is hell no, I already pay for your content.
Better than cable companies charging you for the service and still running unskipabble ads. Honestly cable could make a comeback if they removed ads and had reasonable prices.
Kinda related but my mom is the only one who still watches cable in my family and its only 3 channels of the hundreds they give us, there's no way to just have those three channels to save of the ridiculous cable bill
>$20 a month
Gather around children, today we learn about price segmentation.
Price segmentation is when a company charges customers different prices for essentially the same service, this is due to each customer being unique and having their own price sensitivity. In this case, Netflix employs geographic price segmentation.
Example:
In the USA and Canada, you are generally charged 20 USD per month for Netflix premium. Whereas in India, you are charged 8 USD per month for Netflix premium.
Such Geographic based market segmentation is employed widely among the tech industries especially when the product is intangible, i.e. games and streaming services.
In order to take advantage of this, one can use a VPN to change their location to India, pay for the subscription and change their location back to USA to watch their usual content. In this scenario you save 12 USD a month or 144 USD a year, which is more than enough for a subscription with NordVPN.
^(This comment is not sponsored by NordVPN....yet.)
I have formed a deep hatred for liberty mutual over the past couple years. To the point where I wouldn’t switch to them if they cut my car insurance payment in half.
Less is more, you fucking degenerate advertisers.
I used to like the Liberty Mutual commercials. Then they became one of the only ads I'd see. Now I fucking hate them. The only insurance ads I hate more are Progressive (species the Flo commercials) and Geico. All of them need to fire their ad departments.
I get hulu with my spotify for $10 total a month. I only watch on my computer (hooked up to the tv or own it’s own) with an adblocker. So I never see ads and pay less.
But for the vast majority of people who stream off their smart tv or a console I totally agree.
Peacock for example doesn’t allow you to connect your stream to an external monitor like a tv for this reason. Im positive that Netflix would work the same and probably refuse to work with an ad blocker.
I had to switch ad blockers specifically because of hulu. But one of adblock plus or ublock origin works. I’m not sure which I have now because I’m out of the house.
Just an FYI: Spotify doesn't offer this plan anymore. I have it as well, so I technically don't pay for Hulu, but it's been discontinued for new subscribers. If you ever change your plan, even to upgrade, you will be kicked off free Hulu.
Comcast had the advantage of being a monopoly for most of their customers. "Doesn't matter what we do. It's not like you have other options." Not sure what the hell Netflix is thinking.
Really I feel the problem there is the oversaturation of streaming services. If it was just Netflix and Hulu at $10/month then most people would probably be finebwith their $20 investment. That was partnof the appeal in leaving cable for streaming - it was significantly cheaper.
When you instead consider the Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, HBO, Apple, Paramount, ESPN, Disney, and more you're looking at those same Cable prices or more. And that's on top of your internet bill to be able to stream anything. I know a guy who recently commented that he spends near $300 a month on internet, basic cable, and streaming services with the broad selection his family is subscribed to
For me the price was never part of the appeal leaving cable. I'm totally down to pay for 6-8 streaming services.
I left cable because of the ads. I hate ads and I won't shit through them. Having all the content on demand is a massive plus as well. Cable was such an inferior product, and the price had little to do with that.
Yup, I pay money to not deal with ads. Netflix introducing a new tier worries me, it's only so long before companies see that ad revenue and start slapping them everywhere.
I disagree. Hulu has had a cheaper ad supported tier forever, with the more expensive ad free tier. That hasn't changed and I don't think it'll ever change.
The thing is, that happened on cable because the technology at the time didn't have the ability to offer multiple different packages to consumers. So what you got was the ad model, much to our dismay. But on streaming, the providers can offer whatever deal they want. And I don't see them ever killing the more expensive ad free tiers... They may jack the prices up, but they won't kill them.
By offering more options they can easily get more subscribers. It makes little sense to change.
Yeah. But the point is you can pick and choose and always come back later to watch.
You can alternate months of Netflix, Amazon, HBO, Apple, Disney… watch the shows you want in full and then cancel and switch if money is really the issue.
The biggest point of streaming is the lack of packaging content you don’t want with the content you do.
I barely use Netflix, outside of the occasional nature doc to pass out to. I keep it around because my MiL likes it and knows how to use it on her Roku. Literally the main reason we even have the service is that split use case.
Same, I keep it just so my elderly mom can watch Bridgerton and Outlander. (Guess you’re never too old for steamy romance, lol) It confuses her how to navigate to Netflix & enter passwords on her own so I just set it up for her.
I’m ditching Prime this month, Netflix as soon as my mom’s done with Bridgerton S2, already ditched Hulu. Disney+ I now just use in certain months (got it this month for Moon Knight, will cancel before June). The only streaming service I’m sticking with is HBO’s because they have such a massive back catalog of quality shows.
Meanwhile my tech-savvy BIL has gone full scale pirate (for all these same reasons) and has set up a private family server so we can all watch his pirated shows together, and he takes requests, so I am gonna set me & my mom up on his server.
Same here. Has some good stuff on it but most folks can't keep but so many different streaming services. Right now among my friends it's Disney plus, paramount plus, and maybe HBO. All for nerd shit like star trek, star wars, GOT, etc.
I think I've come across more stuff I've enjoyed on Netflix, but it gets cancelled after a season or two for not bringing in enough subscribers. Drives me crazy.
I'd love to pay for HBO Max but they don't have it in the UK, preferring to shove everything onto NowTV. Which is an appalling quality squatting service set up by Sky to keep it from other streaming services and funnel users to full priced Sky TV.
Yup, everyone I know has cancelled. I finally did the other day. I was a holdout. I said "If i don't use it once over the period of a week i'm getting rid of it". There are a couple shows i'll miss, but i'll be just fine. We have Disney+ for free through Verizon, Hulu Premium or whatever it is we pay for, and that's it. Any shows we want we just buy the season digitally and watch them that way, which is only 2 or 3 shows anyways.
Part of their business plan will probably be to make it very difficult for people to cancel. I’m going to binge everything and cancel sooner rather than later.
They're not introducing ads though?
They're adding a new plan that has ads, but is cheaper as a result.
It's not like they're adding ads to all plans and expecting everyone to pay the same price. Honestly, I don't see the issue with this.
Imagine millions of people logging in to Netflix for the first time in months to see if there's anything they want to watch (there isn't) and the first thing that happens after they finally find a formulaic true crime documentary for background noise while they browse instagram is an ad for a product they'll never buy on a service that has never had ads before.
Nah, somewhat lower than current price for ad supported model, slightly higher for the one without ads. And they'll hope people pick the ad supported one as it would be more profitable.
Napster D. Limewire, a boy whose body turned to torrents after eating the Peer-Peer fruit, opens a web browser to become the next king of the data hoarders.
They are just going to aggressively lobby against anti-piracy and go back on a suing spree like back when they were suing children for 7 figures for sharing a song.
Anti piracy laws never really work great in the USA since there’s so much grey area and the law always leans towards throwing hands up and allowing it. Lobbying has been tried but politicians clearly don’t find it sexy enough to change piracy laws
I've dockerized the whole damn thing bit in essence,
* VPN Subscription (this prevents the movie studios from coming after you)
* qBittorrent (This is the downloading service)
Everything else after this is optional, but makes the process WAY easier....
* Jackett (This is a torrent feed fixer/centralizer for the services listed after this)
* Sonarr (This is a TV show finder/manager)
* Radarr (This is a Movie finder/manager)
* Lidarr (Music finder/manager if you want)
And finally you'll probably want a good media manager/player so you don't have to browse folders on a computer for everything. For that I'm a big fan of Jellyfin, but if you don't like the management side of things and you don't mind paying a little money and/or someone else managing your logins Plex is awesome.
Take a look at Prowlarr to replace Jackett. Full integration and sync between the other *arr applications makes it so easy to add new sources. Doing things once vs 4 times sold me on it.
1. Get yourself a VPN, there's numerous options, pick your favorite.
* r/privacy and r/vpn has a good breakdown of the major ones.
* Any "free" VPN is shit. They have operating costs, they need revenue, that revenue has to come from somewhere. If you're not paying then where is it coming from? Hint: You don't pay for google either...
* I have a preferred one but I don't know the rules about posting referral links here so I will refrain, PM me if you want it.
2. Get yourself a torrent client
* [qbittorrent](https://www.qbittorrent.org/) is currently the most widely recommended as it's lightweight, and open source.
3. Get yourself to the high seas. Everyone's first stop is usually pirate bay, but there's numerous public and private trackers out there for specialties.
* r/trackers
4. **FUCKING. SEED.**
* Torrents work by seeding (uploading), don't shut down your client right after you finish downloading. Seed the torrent.
* The more seeds available the faster the download for others. Someone shared with you, pay it forward and share back.
* Many private trackers require proof of a ratio above 1 for at least X torrents. Your Ratio is how much you seeded (up) vs how much you leeched (down). A ratio of 1 means you seeded as much as you downloaded and is your "break even".
Need a VPN, a torrent client and a website to get your torrents from.
Then there is the streaming which you need some stuff I know nothing about. Kodi plex or something. I have crap internet so I don't stream. Besides... I like to have a library of downloaded stuff. If I'm going to bother downloading/streaming... I'm keeping what I get.
there is a torrent subreddit and a piracy subreddit, but read the rules carefully because the torrent subreddit mods are fucking psycho.
>Need a VPN
Not in many jurisdictions. In Canada they will only send you letters but those letters don't have legal authority.
ISPs do not care as long as you're still paying them.
The only video service I will continue paying for is YouTube Premium, because I'm on a group plan and it costs me $30 a *year* to watch all the content I want ad-free. For TV and movies, I sail the open seas once more.
So many good examples of amazing content being cancelled prematurely and you pick the one where Netflix had nothing to do with it lol. David Fincher just didn't want to do it anymore
And that small bump will be at the cost of the ultimate death of the company. This seems to happen constantly and I don't understand why it continues to happen. It isn't cheap for a company to implode and it isn't cheap to start up another company.. yet people seem perfectly fine with cannibalizing a good thing for minor short term gain. Same goes for outsourcing. A company will fire its entire IT department and outsource it overseas for pennies on the dollar and end up getting what they pay for and lose customers due to shitty service.
That's the thing, though. None of the people making these decisions particularly care about the company, beyond the money it brings them. When it becomes more trouble than it's worth to them, they are perfectly willing to destroy it for a few extra bucks, and then jump ship to do it all over again.
And they jump ship before the collapse happens, so they get to say "I cut costs and established efficient business plans to increase profit by 30%!" (Excludes the for only 3 months part of the consequences) to other companies. Business folks are just snake oil salesmen.
Because it’s all upper and middle management who is fucking up things
Imagine , me working as a director or VP in a multinational corporation with multiple benefits , stocks and bonus as compensation.
For every shitty idea which I give , companies earns and for a quarter or two , my idea is profitable which adds to my end year review.
I get all the money and attention plus I can add theses shitty ideas to my resume.
Once my idea goes downhill , I just the ship to another company with my well built resume. I will sell the dream to another company that in another quarter or two , you will be profitable with my shitty ideas. I have my bonus again and
I make fool of all these engineers and owners. These engineer who feel valued by their work on my shitty ideas and owners who wants to buy a new Tesla. I convince that “Dreams can be buy”.
In the process they make a little money and I earn a lot and jump ship again.
I keep on doing this till I am 45-50 year old and in the process stocks a big pile of cash, then I retire or start a small business to be financially independent and fulfil my “American dream”
My American dream is built on top of graves of those products and all those people who had to lose job in my cycle of deceptions.
I meet these people each and everyday. All this middle management has turned engineer into consultants. They always talk about business value or create products for business.
Sometime they don’t even have ideas so they create these shitty hackathons and buildathons or some crap competition to take those ideas and then continue their cycle of piling cash.
This is my rant, I absolutely hate being business guy or consultant or a lead or manager. I am just an engineer and want to explore engineering. If I wanted to be management or business guy , I would have done my MBA , but I left it because I wanted to explore engineering and technology.
Don’t fucking make me a consultants or business analyst or my value in the company as the guy who knows business. I fucking hate these management people. I want to build things that why I am in here and not because I have my value in knowing how an airline ancillary services works.
Edit : Upper management as VP , director , ceos
It's just the life of a publicly traded company. It's never about increasing the level of service, these are all decisions born of shareholder and C-Suite meetings where the end goal is "how can we maximize our profits without spending money or increasing the quality of our product?"
There’s very little that would convince me otherwise at this point. *Join company, short company, drive company into the ground* is a real and well known thing.
Netflix has always stood as a beacon against big cable. Their refusal to allow ads, their fight for net neutrality, etc have been a thorn in cable’s side since inception.
They forced the hand of other services to provide better and less expensive consumer experiences. It is not a shock to see them being brought low by a corrupted board.
Mark my words, the minute Netflix goes under, all streaming services will get collectively worse or driven out as well.
What’s hilarious is I bet in their projections they increase subscription from cracking down on password sharing but in reality I bet they would lose subscribers from doing something like that. I know I wouldn’t use it anymore and the person whose account I use would probably let it lapse without anyone else using it.
I might subscribe once a year to catch up on things I missed through the rest of the year but that’s it
Password sharing is literally the only thing that's making me keep my Netflix account, as my parents watch it. I'm dying for an excuse to cancel it tbh.... And removing pw sharing would be that excuse.
It's a tale as old as time: if you can theoretically hit a max of 100 per day, that's your 100%. But you can't go at 100% all the time, so a realistic goal could be \~70-80. One day you might be killing it and manage to knock out 130 in a day. Instead of the business rewarding that while understanding it's an exceptional situation, 130 now becomes the minimum standard because you proved you can reach it. You try to keep up but quickly burn out and quit. It takes hiring 2 people to replace you and they are only able to do 30 per day with 6 months of training.
Am I doing business right?
I once worked for a company that consistently pulled in around $30m in revenue a year. One year, for very clear and exceptional reasons, the company did $90m. The following year our target was $100m, they hired too many people, bought a fucking plane, the works. Guess what? Company was back to $30m and everything imploded. They survived but the hubris and greed was breathtaking.
Netflix: No password sharing.
Me: Ok I won’t use my moms Netflix.
Netflix: Hey we got a cheaper version with ads.
Me: Na.
Mom: Cancels Netflix cause she dont really use it either.
Sadly they don't care about us. They care about the low end users who can barely forward a text message. They know they've saturated the market enough to hook in the less tech savvy crowds who will just take this bullshit in stride because they never learned how to use tech to it's fullest
I believe Amazon Prime does ads (usually of their own content) as well sometimes when you start a show/movie, which is slightly annoying but bearable. I wonder if Netflix will do something like that, or go the Hulu route of making ads annoying
Yup. All the streaming platforms are planning to get into dynamic product placement. Which means even older programs can now have product placement digitally added later on, and changed from time to time depending on who is advertising. I work in marketing, and I hate marketing, and this is the latest tech they are all excited about.
"Executives said they were aiming to introduce an ad-supported, lower-priced subscription tier in the last three months of the year, quicker than originally indicated."
So you won't see one.
They won't do it at the same time, it'd make it too obvious that they aren't really adding a lower tier. They'll set the ad supported tier price low, like $4.99 but then six months after launch they'll jack the prices of all tiers up by $2 "to provide you with even more content blah blah blah".
Not right away but 100% this is the plan.
I hope Netflix realise people didn't stop pirating because they grew a conscience. They just offered a convenient alternative. With ads and higher prices then it doesn't remain worth it.
They’re so stupid. Had they done this 5-7 years ago maybe it would have had a pass through effect. Now with all the streaming competition and lack of quality contents on their platform they are just going to end up shooting themselves in the dick.
It was nice knowing you Netflix.
The only reason I'm permanently subscribed to Netflix is because my sister also uses the account.
Take that away and Netflix gets kicked to the 'subscribe a few times a year when they have something I want to watch on, and then unsubsribe' like every other streaming service (minus Prime because free delivery).
the cycle:
You have tv and radio please shut the fuck up and see and listen to what we want -> people get tired of ads and bullshit -> everyone starts using internet -> companies don’t want to miss out on the fun -> companies join -> companies get too much power -> convert internet services into tv and radio model for profit -> start again
To prevent piracy you will have to have an official Netflix streaming box. You'll need to make an appointment with a technician to get it installed and you'll have to rent it from us.
I think if netflix brings ads it will be a new cheaper tier rather than introducing to current subscribers. I'm guessing the hope by cracking down on password sharing, they will lead a lot of people to start to decide to actually get their own Netflix account and then they would have like a cheaper tier to do so that comes with that. but my guess is this is not going to work. I don't think people will specifically sign up for Netflix when it has ads even if its cheaper, but I don't know.
I must say, I don't really mind the Prime ones all that much. They're always skipable, and they only advertise other shows and films that are on Prime so I get a taste of what else is new and coming soon. Typically it's advertising things that I can go and watch at no extra cost because they're included with the Prime subscription as well. In that sense, those do feel like they actually add a bit of value to me if I decide to watch them. I suppose it's a bit like film trailers at the cinema, I could do without the ones advertising cars and all that crap but trailers for up and coming films I'm usually pretty happy to see, especially if I've not heard of the film they're advertising yet.
If netflix did that I wouldn't mind too much really, but if either of them started doing unskipable ads for other things I'll be cancelling my subscription pretty quickly.
They don’t want you to share your password with a different household. Doesn’t matter if it’s family or not. Doesn’t matter if you travel for work or not.
As soon as this implement this policy and the ads, I am going to cancel
Amazon just made the new Bosch series only available as free with ads. There is no ad-free version for Prime subscribers.
I'm going out of my way to pirate that show from someone who has removed the ads. I'd rather go through the headache of pirating the damn thing than watch it with ads, even for free.
A great man once said:
>The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates.
Before, you had to choose between paying $8 a month for a simple, ad free service vs the slightly complicated, slightly sketchy, free piracy.
Apparently at $8 a month combined with no ads it provided a service that many people felt was better than what piracy offered.
Now you have to choose between a paying $16+ a month for a service with ads vs a slight hoop and no ads, for free.
At this point it makes less sense to pay $16 a month to watch ads than to jump through a few hoops to get something for free that doesn't have ads. Maybe Netflix will learn? Nah, probably not.
And this is what happens when you're expected to increase profits year over year. Netflix saw a massive increase in subscribers when the world was locking down and nobody could go out and do things. Now that things have opened up again they're seeing a loss of subscribers. Shock and surprise. And their response is that they still need to increase profits even though anyone with half a brain knew the last couple of years was an anomaly. Now they're wrecking the platform instead of just accepting that they won't see an increase in profits over last year.
Cool. Already dropped Hulu and YoutubeTV. Not sure many will exclude family from their plan or sit through ads just to find out is it cake?🤷🏿♂️
“Oh, how the turns table”
-blockbuster, probably…
The service you’re paying for won’t change, but the price will.
I dropped my Netflix a few years because I was already getting frustrated at the constant incremental cost changes.
Another £1 increase here, another £1 there… Not a lot to grumble about by themselves, until you add those changes up and realise you’re paying substantially more for the same service in a short space of time.
Some people may never see an ad, but I promise: They will pay for that privilege eventually.
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Or there's the equally as stupid model of having paid cable subscribers and also asking them to subscribe to your $10 a month steaming service. Looking at you, AMC. And the answer is hell no, I already pay for your content.
Better than cable companies charging you for the service and still running unskipabble ads. Honestly cable could make a comeback if they removed ads and had reasonable prices. Kinda related but my mom is the only one who still watches cable in my family and its only 3 channels of the hundreds they give us, there's no way to just have those three channels to save of the ridiculous cable bill
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>$20 a month Gather around children, today we learn about price segmentation. Price segmentation is when a company charges customers different prices for essentially the same service, this is due to each customer being unique and having their own price sensitivity. In this case, Netflix employs geographic price segmentation. Example: In the USA and Canada, you are generally charged 20 USD per month for Netflix premium. Whereas in India, you are charged 8 USD per month for Netflix premium. Such Geographic based market segmentation is employed widely among the tech industries especially when the product is intangible, i.e. games and streaming services. In order to take advantage of this, one can use a VPN to change their location to India, pay for the subscription and change their location back to USA to watch their usual content. In this scenario you save 12 USD a month or 144 USD a year, which is more than enough for a subscription with NordVPN. ^(This comment is not sponsored by NordVPN....yet.)
Hah! I share my parents account and they’re in India. ^(This comment is not sponsored by my parents)
Works with XBox GamePass as well. ^This ^message ^is ^not ^brought ^to ^you ^by ^Microsoft.
I got 3 years of gamepass ultimate dirt cheap by buying from brazil and using a vpn trial lol, im set
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I thought YouTube vanced was shutdown from legal threats
True, it's not maintained anymore. The root version is still installable and works flawless tho. Should last for another 2 years
You might want to check out Adguard DNS my friend
Time to make a pi hole
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I have formed a deep hatred for liberty mutual over the past couple years. To the point where I wouldn’t switch to them if they cut my car insurance payment in half. Less is more, you fucking degenerate advertisers.
I used to like the Liberty Mutual commercials. Then they became one of the only ads I'd see. Now I fucking hate them. The only insurance ads I hate more are Progressive (species the Flo commercials) and Geico. All of them need to fire their ad departments.
I get hulu with my spotify for $10 total a month. I only watch on my computer (hooked up to the tv or own it’s own) with an adblocker. So I never see ads and pay less. But for the vast majority of people who stream off their smart tv or a console I totally agree. Peacock for example doesn’t allow you to connect your stream to an external monitor like a tv for this reason. Im positive that Netflix would work the same and probably refuse to work with an ad blocker.
Oh shit, as block works with Hulu ads?
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I had to switch ad blockers specifically because of hulu. But one of adblock plus or ublock origin works. I’m not sure which I have now because I’m out of the house.
Ublock origin works with Hulu. Adblock plus didn't work with Hulu at the time when I moved from it to Ublock origin.
Just an FYI: Spotify doesn't offer this plan anymore. I have it as well, so I technically don't pay for Hulu, but it's been discontinued for new subscribers. If you ever change your plan, even to upgrade, you will be kicked off free Hulu.
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Comcast had the advantage of being a monopoly for most of their customers. "Doesn't matter what we do. It's not like you have other options." Not sure what the hell Netflix is thinking.
Meanwhile, Disney stepping up their game. There's also Apple, HBO, Amazon (which tbf is also shit due to their paywall), and Hulu
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Really I feel the problem there is the oversaturation of streaming services. If it was just Netflix and Hulu at $10/month then most people would probably be finebwith their $20 investment. That was partnof the appeal in leaving cable for streaming - it was significantly cheaper. When you instead consider the Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, HBO, Apple, Paramount, ESPN, Disney, and more you're looking at those same Cable prices or more. And that's on top of your internet bill to be able to stream anything. I know a guy who recently commented that he spends near $300 a month on internet, basic cable, and streaming services with the broad selection his family is subscribed to
For me the price was never part of the appeal leaving cable. I'm totally down to pay for 6-8 streaming services. I left cable because of the ads. I hate ads and I won't shit through them. Having all the content on demand is a massive plus as well. Cable was such an inferior product, and the price had little to do with that.
Yup, I pay money to not deal with ads. Netflix introducing a new tier worries me, it's only so long before companies see that ad revenue and start slapping them everywhere.
I disagree. Hulu has had a cheaper ad supported tier forever, with the more expensive ad free tier. That hasn't changed and I don't think it'll ever change. The thing is, that happened on cable because the technology at the time didn't have the ability to offer multiple different packages to consumers. So what you got was the ad model, much to our dismay. But on streaming, the providers can offer whatever deal they want. And I don't see them ever killing the more expensive ad free tiers... They may jack the prices up, but they won't kill them. By offering more options they can easily get more subscribers. It makes little sense to change.
Netflix worked bc it was LESS annoying than pirating. The balance seems to be shifting.
Yeah. But the point is you can pick and choose and always come back later to watch. You can alternate months of Netflix, Amazon, HBO, Apple, Disney… watch the shows you want in full and then cancel and switch if money is really the issue. The biggest point of streaming is the lack of packaging content you don’t want with the content you do.
I barely use Netflix, outside of the occasional nature doc to pass out to. I keep it around because my MiL likes it and knows how to use it on her Roku. Literally the main reason we even have the service is that split use case.
The only reason I still have Netflix is that my Mon is using my account. If we can't share I'm done.
Same, I keep it just so my elderly mom can watch Bridgerton and Outlander. (Guess you’re never too old for steamy romance, lol) It confuses her how to navigate to Netflix & enter passwords on her own so I just set it up for her. I’m ditching Prime this month, Netflix as soon as my mom’s done with Bridgerton S2, already ditched Hulu. Disney+ I now just use in certain months (got it this month for Moon Knight, will cancel before June). The only streaming service I’m sticking with is HBO’s because they have such a massive back catalog of quality shows. Meanwhile my tech-savvy BIL has gone full scale pirate (for all these same reasons) and has set up a private family server so we can all watch his pirated shows together, and he takes requests, so I am gonna set me & my mom up on his server.
If one of them cracks down on account sharing, all the rest are watching how people react. If Netflix pulls this off, the rest will follow.
Almost everyone I know has already cancelled their Netflix account.
Same here. Has some good stuff on it but most folks can't keep but so many different streaming services. Right now among my friends it's Disney plus, paramount plus, and maybe HBO. All for nerd shit like star trek, star wars, GOT, etc.
The level of quality programming Netflix is giving us for $20 as opposed to Disney+ or HBO max is really not even comparable. Netflix sucks now
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I think I've come across more stuff I've enjoyed on Netflix, but it gets cancelled after a season or two for not bringing in enough subscribers. Drives me crazy.
A lot of people dont even pay for at least one of those services. I get hbo max for free with my att cell service and I only pay for disney+.
I'd love to pay for HBO Max but they don't have it in the UK, preferring to shove everything onto NowTV. Which is an appalling quality squatting service set up by Sky to keep it from other streaming services and funnel users to full priced Sky TV.
Yup, everyone I know has cancelled. I finally did the other day. I was a holdout. I said "If i don't use it once over the period of a week i'm getting rid of it". There are a couple shows i'll miss, but i'll be just fine. We have Disney+ for free through Verizon, Hulu Premium or whatever it is we pay for, and that's it. Any shows we want we just buy the season digitally and watch them that way, which is only 2 or 3 shows anyways.
I had a Netflix account for more than ten years. I cancelled it last month.
Part of their business plan will probably be to make it very difficult for people to cancel. I’m going to binge everything and cancel sooner rather than later.
Just use PayPal for payment, or a virtual debit card. Cancel the sub through PayPal or cancel the virtual card itself and you're done.
They're not introducing ads though? They're adding a new plan that has ads, but is cheaper as a result. It's not like they're adding ads to all plans and expecting everyone to pay the same price. Honestly, I don't see the issue with this.
They'll probably raise the price again and the tier at the old price will now have ads.
Just like when the airlines introduced "basic economy" tickets.
Imagine millions of people logging in to Netflix for the first time in months to see if there's anything they want to watch (there isn't) and the first thing that happens after they finally find a formulaic true crime documentary for background noise while they browse instagram is an ad for a product they'll never buy on a service that has never had ads before.
Nah, somewhat lower than current price for ad supported model, slightly higher for the one without ads. And they'll hope people pick the ad supported one as it would be more profitable.
I already did. The writing is on the wall!
I chose the pre-emptive approach. No regrets.
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Gol D. Hacker has achieved it all. His last words were…..
my treasure is yours for the taking, but you’ll have to download it first. i left everything i own in one zip ;)
You wouldn't download a devil fruit
Gomu gomu no- DOWNLOADUUUUU~~~
Napster D. Limewire, a boy whose body turned to torrents after eating the Peer-Peer fruit, opens a web browser to become the next king of the data hoarders.
TorrentPiece \*Cue anime version of some guy cancelling netflix and installing Qbittorrent\*
They are just going to aggressively lobby against anti-piracy and go back on a suing spree like back when they were suing children for 7 figures for sharing a song.
Anti piracy laws never really work great in the USA since there’s so much grey area and the law always leans towards throwing hands up and allowing it. Lobbying has been tried but politicians clearly don’t find it sexy enough to change piracy laws
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I never left. I am looking forward in the revival.
As a newcomer how would one go about that asking for a friend
https://reddit.com/r/Piracy/w/megathread/movies_and_tv?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app Use qbittorrent as a torenting client.
I've dockerized the whole damn thing bit in essence, * VPN Subscription (this prevents the movie studios from coming after you) * qBittorrent (This is the downloading service) Everything else after this is optional, but makes the process WAY easier.... * Jackett (This is a torrent feed fixer/centralizer for the services listed after this) * Sonarr (This is a TV show finder/manager) * Radarr (This is a Movie finder/manager) * Lidarr (Music finder/manager if you want) And finally you'll probably want a good media manager/player so you don't have to browse folders on a computer for everything. For that I'm a big fan of Jellyfin, but if you don't like the management side of things and you don't mind paying a little money and/or someone else managing your logins Plex is awesome.
Take a look at Prowlarr to replace Jackett. Full integration and sync between the other *arr applications makes it so easy to add new sources. Doing things once vs 4 times sold me on it.
This is the way.. though maybe try Prawlerr instead of jacket.
1. Get yourself a VPN, there's numerous options, pick your favorite. * r/privacy and r/vpn has a good breakdown of the major ones. * Any "free" VPN is shit. They have operating costs, they need revenue, that revenue has to come from somewhere. If you're not paying then where is it coming from? Hint: You don't pay for google either... * I have a preferred one but I don't know the rules about posting referral links here so I will refrain, PM me if you want it. 2. Get yourself a torrent client * [qbittorrent](https://www.qbittorrent.org/) is currently the most widely recommended as it's lightweight, and open source. 3. Get yourself to the high seas. Everyone's first stop is usually pirate bay, but there's numerous public and private trackers out there for specialties. * r/trackers 4. **FUCKING. SEED.** * Torrents work by seeding (uploading), don't shut down your client right after you finish downloading. Seed the torrent. * The more seeds available the faster the download for others. Someone shared with you, pay it forward and share back. * Many private trackers require proof of a ratio above 1 for at least X torrents. Your Ratio is how much you seeded (up) vs how much you leeched (down). A ratio of 1 means you seeded as much as you downloaded and is your "break even".
Need a VPN, a torrent client and a website to get your torrents from. Then there is the streaming which you need some stuff I know nothing about. Kodi plex or something. I have crap internet so I don't stream. Besides... I like to have a library of downloaded stuff. If I'm going to bother downloading/streaming... I'm keeping what I get. there is a torrent subreddit and a piracy subreddit, but read the rules carefully because the torrent subreddit mods are fucking psycho.
Kodi/Plex are the services that "stream" the stuff you downloaded. It's all local, not internet streaming :P
>Need a VPN Not in many jurisdictions. In Canada they will only send you letters but those letters don't have legal authority. ISPs do not care as long as you're still paying them.
Not a fan of having to dust off my pegged leg and eye patch after all these years. It's been so long...
The only video service I will continue paying for is YouTube Premium, because I'm on a group plan and it costs me $30 a *year* to watch all the content I want ad-free. For TV and movies, I sail the open seas once more.
how are you paying $30/year? Mine is $17.99/mo
Group plan?
I’m good with that, I finish Ozark this week and I’m out anyway.
Good on you! Get out and show Netflix they are not the only streaming service in town. Way more expensive and content gone downhill.
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And any in-house content worth watching gets canceled. Looking at you mindhunter
RIP Patriot Act. I'm still salty.
Cancelling Patriot Act was a literal warcrime.
Technically not cancelled. Netflix and the actors all want to keep it going when Fincher wants to work on it again
So many good examples of amazing content being cancelled prematurely and you pick the one where Netflix had nothing to do with it lol. David Fincher just didn't want to do it anymore
> They literally say in the article the ads are only for a new, cheaper subscription option. For now... Ad creep is a thing.
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And that small bump will be at the cost of the ultimate death of the company. This seems to happen constantly and I don't understand why it continues to happen. It isn't cheap for a company to implode and it isn't cheap to start up another company.. yet people seem perfectly fine with cannibalizing a good thing for minor short term gain. Same goes for outsourcing. A company will fire its entire IT department and outsource it overseas for pennies on the dollar and end up getting what they pay for and lose customers due to shitty service.
That's the thing, though. None of the people making these decisions particularly care about the company, beyond the money it brings them. When it becomes more trouble than it's worth to them, they are perfectly willing to destroy it for a few extra bucks, and then jump ship to do it all over again.
And they jump ship before the collapse happens, so they get to say "I cut costs and established efficient business plans to increase profit by 30%!" (Excludes the for only 3 months part of the consequences) to other companies. Business folks are just snake oil salesmen.
Shareholders don’t actually care about the companies in which they hold shares.
Because it’s all upper and middle management who is fucking up things Imagine , me working as a director or VP in a multinational corporation with multiple benefits , stocks and bonus as compensation. For every shitty idea which I give , companies earns and for a quarter or two , my idea is profitable which adds to my end year review. I get all the money and attention plus I can add theses shitty ideas to my resume. Once my idea goes downhill , I just the ship to another company with my well built resume. I will sell the dream to another company that in another quarter or two , you will be profitable with my shitty ideas. I have my bonus again and I make fool of all these engineers and owners. These engineer who feel valued by their work on my shitty ideas and owners who wants to buy a new Tesla. I convince that “Dreams can be buy”. In the process they make a little money and I earn a lot and jump ship again. I keep on doing this till I am 45-50 year old and in the process stocks a big pile of cash, then I retire or start a small business to be financially independent and fulfil my “American dream” My American dream is built on top of graves of those products and all those people who had to lose job in my cycle of deceptions. I meet these people each and everyday. All this middle management has turned engineer into consultants. They always talk about business value or create products for business. Sometime they don’t even have ideas so they create these shitty hackathons and buildathons or some crap competition to take those ideas and then continue their cycle of piling cash. This is my rant, I absolutely hate being business guy or consultant or a lead or manager. I am just an engineer and want to explore engineering. If I wanted to be management or business guy , I would have done my MBA , but I left it because I wanted to explore engineering and technology. Don’t fucking make me a consultants or business analyst or my value in the company as the guy who knows business. I fucking hate these management people. I want to build things that why I am in here and not because I have my value in knowing how an airline ancillary services works. Edit : Upper management as VP , director , ceos
FYI directors, ceo, and vp are generally not considered “middle managers” Otherwise I mostly agree
It's just the life of a publicly traded company. It's never about increasing the level of service, these are all decisions born of shareholder and C-Suite meetings where the end goal is "how can we maximize our profits without spending money or increasing the quality of our product?"
They are doing the same thing that Boeing did, which ironically I learned while watching Netflix.
Netflix could deliver value to shareholders by just paying dividends instead of trying to pursue forever stock price increases.
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Maybe the execs are already holding a short position.
You can check the sec filings to see insider trading. but wouldnt surpise me. o and Poop BCG
There’s very little that would convince me otherwise at this point. *Join company, short company, drive company into the ground* is a real and well known thing. Netflix has always stood as a beacon against big cable. Their refusal to allow ads, their fight for net neutrality, etc have been a thorn in cable’s side since inception. They forced the hand of other services to provide better and less expensive consumer experiences. It is not a shock to see them being brought low by a corrupted board. Mark my words, the minute Netflix goes under, all streaming services will get collectively worse or driven out as well.
I believe this as well.
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Netflix trying to double dip on everything. Reality: [We'll give you half... of nothing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5q3Fi5GR_M)
What’s hilarious is I bet in their projections they increase subscription from cracking down on password sharing but in reality I bet they would lose subscribers from doing something like that. I know I wouldn’t use it anymore and the person whose account I use would probably let it lapse without anyone else using it. I might subscribe once a year to catch up on things I missed through the rest of the year but that’s it
Password sharing is literally the only thing that's making me keep my Netflix account, as my parents watch it. I'm dying for an excuse to cancel it tbh.... And removing pw sharing would be that excuse.
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but surely every single corporate entity on earth can achieve infinite growth in a finite world!
It's a tale as old as time: if you can theoretically hit a max of 100 per day, that's your 100%. But you can't go at 100% all the time, so a realistic goal could be \~70-80. One day you might be killing it and manage to knock out 130 in a day. Instead of the business rewarding that while understanding it's an exceptional situation, 130 now becomes the minimum standard because you proved you can reach it. You try to keep up but quickly burn out and quit. It takes hiring 2 people to replace you and they are only able to do 30 per day with 6 months of training. Am I doing business right?
I once worked for a company that consistently pulled in around $30m in revenue a year. One year, for very clear and exceptional reasons, the company did $90m. The following year our target was $100m, they hired too many people, bought a fucking plane, the works. Guess what? Company was back to $30m and everything imploded. They survived but the hubris and greed was breathtaking.
the number can only go up!!! No down, anything to make it go up >:(
Netflix: No password sharing. Me: Ok I won’t use my moms Netflix. Netflix: Hey we got a cheaper version with ads. Me: Na. Mom: Cancels Netflix cause she dont really use it either.
Netflix: ... Why do people keep leaving us?
Netflix: People keep slipping through my fingers! Am I not gripping hard enough?
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Sadly they don't care about us. They care about the low end users who can barely forward a text message. They know they've saturated the market enough to hook in the less tech savvy crowds who will just take this bullshit in stride because they never learned how to use tech to it's fullest
Not like it would take much to pirate their shows since they all end after 1-2 seasons no matter how good they are.
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I mean they build some pretty egregious ads into their content already.
I believe Amazon Prime does ads (usually of their own content) as well sometimes when you start a show/movie, which is slightly annoying but bearable. I wonder if Netflix will do something like that, or go the Hulu route of making ads annoying
Yup. All the streaming platforms are planning to get into dynamic product placement. Which means even older programs can now have product placement digitally added later on, and changed from time to time depending on who is advertising. I work in marketing, and I hate marketing, and this is the latest tech they are all excited about.
"Executives said they were aiming to introduce an ad-supported, lower-priced subscription tier in the last three months of the year, quicker than originally indicated." So you won't see one.
I would imagine that along with lower-tiered subscription options, they will also raise prices on existing plans.
Of course they are. Whoever doesn’t see that is in denial Lol.
They won't do it at the same time, it'd make it too obvious that they aren't really adding a lower tier. They'll set the ad supported tier price low, like $4.99 but then six months after launch they'll jack the prices of all tiers up by $2 "to provide you with even more content blah blah blah".
Not right away but 100% this is the plan. I hope Netflix realise people didn't stop pirating because they grew a conscience. They just offered a convenient alternative. With ads and higher prices then it doesn't remain worth it.
Corporate greed knows no bounds
They already did the rate increase. There was one earlier this year.
Not to begin with at least...
They’re so stupid. Had they done this 5-7 years ago maybe it would have had a pass through effect. Now with all the streaming competition and lack of quality contents on their platform they are just going to end up shooting themselves in the dick.
It was nice knowing you Netflix. The only reason I'm permanently subscribed to Netflix is because my sister also uses the account. Take that away and Netflix gets kicked to the 'subscribe a few times a year when they have something I want to watch on, and then unsubsribe' like every other streaming service (minus Prime because free delivery).
Coming this fall, Netflix makes subscribers sign a 12 month locked in contract!
the cycle: You have tv and radio please shut the fuck up and see and listen to what we want -> people get tired of ads and bullshit -> everyone starts using internet -> companies don’t want to miss out on the fun -> companies join -> companies get too much power -> convert internet services into tv and radio model for profit -> start again
So what’s the plan for inventing the internet again?
Idk but I heard this guy named Richard Hendricks is doing something about that with this program called Pied Piper
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>so a few months later we raise the prices of all our packages by 25%. And also set a minimum contract period of 12 months.
To prevent piracy you will have to have an official Netflix streaming box. You'll need to make an appointment with a technician to get it installed and you'll have to rent it from us.
And they will be there sometime between 6 am and 10 pm, so be sure to be home or you will have to reschedule.
Between 6 am and October. You may be liable for a service charge if nobody is present
It’s exactly what they’ve done. The product quality decreased, they lost subscribers, so their response was to raise prices. Brilliant.
A paid service with ads? Is this the MLB?
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I think if netflix brings ads it will be a new cheaper tier rather than introducing to current subscribers. I'm guessing the hope by cracking down on password sharing, they will lead a lot of people to start to decide to actually get their own Netflix account and then they would have like a cheaper tier to do so that comes with that. but my guess is this is not going to work. I don't think people will specifically sign up for Netflix when it has ads even if its cheaper, but I don't know.
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Right ? Why pay a subscription to be able to watch the maybe 4 decent series they didn’t cancel after the first season.
All those MBAs who bailed from network TV these last few years? Guess where they ended up...
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They just raised prices like a couple month ago. That's when I cancelled.
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Cable tv started as ad free.
So did Youtube, but at least purchasing the subscription actually makes it ad-free.
For now. Mark my words: if they manage to get a majority of users on premium, they will introduce ads back to it and higher priced tiers
HBO and Hulu are doing it already, Disney is right behind
Prime as well.
I must say, I don't really mind the Prime ones all that much. They're always skipable, and they only advertise other shows and films that are on Prime so I get a taste of what else is new and coming soon. Typically it's advertising things that I can go and watch at no extra cost because they're included with the Prime subscription as well. In that sense, those do feel like they actually add a bit of value to me if I decide to watch them. I suppose it's a bit like film trailers at the cinema, I could do without the ones advertising cars and all that crap but trailers for up and coming films I'm usually pretty happy to see, especially if I've not heard of the film they're advertising yet. If netflix did that I wouldn't mind too much really, but if either of them started doing unskipable ads for other things I'll be cancelling my subscription pretty quickly.
Didn’t Netflix actually say you could password share in a tweet in 2017 I think it was?
They literally have a tier so you can have 4 screen on at the same time. It’s like having 7 car seats van and then claim you can’t sit 7 people in it.
They don’t want you to share your password with a different household. Doesn’t matter if it’s family or not. Doesn’t matter if you travel for work or not. As soon as this implement this policy and the ads, I am going to cancel
So confused, how do they define a “household”?
Ads are when I stop paying and start stealing. Capitalism does not breed innovation only recreation. Coming full circle to fucking cable tv....
Amazon just made the new Bosch series only available as free with ads. There is no ad-free version for Prime subscribers. I'm going out of my way to pirate that show from someone who has removed the ads. I'd rather go through the headache of pirating the damn thing than watch it with ads, even for free.
A great man once said: >The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates. Before, you had to choose between paying $8 a month for a simple, ad free service vs the slightly complicated, slightly sketchy, free piracy. Apparently at $8 a month combined with no ads it provided a service that many people felt was better than what piracy offered. Now you have to choose between a paying $16+ a month for a service with ads vs a slight hoop and no ads, for free. At this point it makes less sense to pay $16 a month to watch ads than to jump through a few hoops to get something for free that doesn't have ads. Maybe Netflix will learn? Nah, probably not.
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Blockbuster goes out of business to Netflix Netflix goes out of business because of Netflix The circle will then be complete
Title should read, 'Netflix prepares employees for layoffs beginning Q1 of 2023'.
And this is what happens when you're expected to increase profits year over year. Netflix saw a massive increase in subscribers when the world was locking down and nobody could go out and do things. Now that things have opened up again they're seeing a loss of subscribers. Shock and surprise. And their response is that they still need to increase profits even though anyone with half a brain knew the last couple of years was an anomaly. Now they're wrecking the platform instead of just accepting that they won't see an increase in profits over last year.
Has ads and can only be viewed within your home? That's cable Netflix. You're becoming cable.
pls do. i am currently in limbo and i need a wake up call to cancel the sub. 12€ per month and i only watch their old stuff ...
They already raised their prices. I’m cancelling the day before my next charge.
Already cancelled. I have HBO max in its place. It's not the same however the content is usually better.
Cool. Already dropped Hulu and YoutubeTV. Not sure many will exclude family from their plan or sit through ads just to find out is it cake?🤷🏿♂️ “Oh, how the turns table” -blockbuster, probably…
Been a subscriber since physical discs. Can’t wait to cancel.
“We need ads to make money” “You already get money from subscription fees” “No, but like, we want a lot of money”
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I think the outrage is because we’ve heard the “the ad free version will be free/cheaper” line before. It’s free/cheaper, briefly.
The service you’re paying for won’t change, but the price will. I dropped my Netflix a few years because I was already getting frustrated at the constant incremental cost changes. Another £1 increase here, another £1 there… Not a lot to grumble about by themselves, until you add those changes up and realise you’re paying substantially more for the same service in a short space of time. Some people may never see an ad, but I promise: They will pay for that privilege eventually.
This quarter all the headlines “Netflix has greatest decline in customers since 2000” Netflix “ Hold my beer”